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wysiwyg 30 Nov 05 - 03:35 PM
George Papavgeris 30 Nov 05 - 03:37 AM
Peace 24 Nov 05 - 10:19 AM
Amos 24 Nov 05 - 09:49 AM
Don(Wyziwyg)T 24 Nov 05 - 05:30 AM
The Shambles 24 Nov 05 - 05:15 AM
John MacKenzie 24 Nov 05 - 04:21 AM
Joe Offer 24 Nov 05 - 02:06 AM
The Shambles 24 Nov 05 - 02:00 AM
The Shambles 24 Nov 05 - 01:50 AM
The Shambles 24 Nov 05 - 01:48 AM
wysiwyg 23 Nov 05 - 11:50 PM
Amos 23 Nov 05 - 06:44 PM
The Shambles 23 Nov 05 - 06:17 PM
The Shambles 23 Nov 05 - 02:14 PM
John MacKenzie 17 Nov 05 - 06:27 PM
Don(Wyziwyg)T 15 Nov 05 - 06:44 AM
The Shambles 15 Nov 05 - 06:09 AM
wysiwyg 14 Nov 05 - 10:46 AM
GUEST,Giok 14 Nov 05 - 10:42 AM
Amos 14 Nov 05 - 09:59 AM
The Shambles 14 Nov 05 - 02:02 AM
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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: wysiwyg
Date: 30 Nov 05 - 03:35 PM

Subject: RE: BS: I feel like a moan..listen pls ?
From: John 'Giok' MacKenzie - PM
Date: 29 Nov 05 - 03:33 PM

Looks like you're only going to find sympathy in the dictionary, between shit and syphilis!

G.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 30 Nov 05 - 03:37 AM


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Peace
Date: 24 Nov 05 - 10:19 AM

Shambles, if you do drugs, stop. If you don't, start.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Amos
Date: 24 Nov 05 - 09:49 AM

Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations.

Thanks, Joe. Appreciated.

A


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 24 Nov 05 - 05:30 AM

But he will Giok, HE WILL...........Yawn.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: More Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 24 Nov 05 - 05:15 AM

Does this qualify for a 'collectible, insightful, pithy, especially well-turned, humorous or enlightening bon mot by another Mudcatter?


Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: John 'Giok' MacKenzie - PM
Date: 24 Nov 05 - 04:21 AM

Shambles you are a :-
Self obsessed, self interested, self important, supercilious, pompous priggish, paranoid, prat. Deluded, devoid of humour, dreadfully boring and disgustingly repetetive.
No need to reply.
G.
Moved from other non-Shambles-centric thread. --JC


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 24 Nov 05 - 04:21 AM

Shambles you are a :-
Self obsessed, self interested, self important, supercilious, pompous priggish, paranoid, prat. Deluded, devoid of humour, dreadfully boring and disgustingly repetetive.
No need to reply.
G.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Joe Offer
Date: 24 Nov 05 - 02:06 AM

Dear Roger,
As I understand it, most people don't want you cluttering up yet another thread with your anti-censorship campaign. Post what you want in this thread, and stay out of the other one.
Be happy that you're tolerated as much as you are.
Thank you.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 24 Nov 05 - 02:00 AM

Joe please leave my posts alone and get a life?

If you had not imposed closure on the original thread Amos would have not needed to open a new one - you would have had no need to censor it and you would not have been forced to open this one again.


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Subject: RE: More Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 24 Nov 05 - 01:50 AM

I now note that Amos's opening judgement has been censored. And Susan's post to which I was replying has been deleted!
No, it was moved here to continue the ongoing discussion. Some things were moved, but nothing was deleted.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: More Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 24 Nov 05 - 01:48 AM

Rather good point Susan.

For as Amos decided to open this thread with a personal judgement of his fellow posters - and I am not sure if was indeed rampant egoism that caused our anonymous fellow poster to close the original thread - it is possibly not really very reasonable of Amos to expect other contributors to this thread not to follow the example that he has set.


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Subject: RE: More Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: wysiwyg
Date: 23 Nov 05 - 11:50 PM

Amos, you trolled him into it, and now it's done.... next time, keep your whole mind on Barky's point, and not on winning your own point.

~S~


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Subject: RE: More Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: Amos
Date: 23 Nov 05 - 06:44 PM

The earlier thread was closed, I presume because it had been adulterated by rampant egoism beyond all recognition.

Sham,

Please let us have this thread back, and take your battle elsewhere. This thread is for collectible, insightful, pithy, especially well-turned, humorous or enlightening bon mots by other Mudcatters.

IF you are contemplating posting something OTHER than those, please post it in a more appropriate thread.

Amos
    I moved this message and the rest of the Shambles discussion over here, and reopened the thread.
    -Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: More Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 23 Nov 05 - 06:17 PM

It may have been because it was abused, by being used for a purpose for which it was not intended.

Is the anonymous fellow poster responsible for the unwelcome insertion of this editing comment into my post and possibly also the one responsible for the imposed closure of the original thread wishing to make their name known and be prepared stand by their comments and actions? Like everyone else is expected and are generally prepared to do?

It MAY have been subject to imposed closure for this reason - was it in fact subject to imposed closure for this reason and who was responsible for imposing this judgement?

There would seem to be little point in closing a thread that is simply a collection contributions that can still be found in their original threads.

As the purpose for which it was used until its imposed closure was its intended use for the placing of quotations that were of note. I am not sure how that can be any form of abuse - cause it to be relegated to the B/S and now anonymously subject to imposed closure..........Perhaps this can be explained to our forum?

    I reopened the thread and moved your comments here, Shambles. Feel free to quote anything you haven't quoted before. Please leave the other thread open for matters other than your ongoing discussion of Mudcat editorial policy.
    Thank you.
    -Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: More Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 23 Nov 05 - 02:14 PM

The thead that Amos refers to is the following Gallery of Mudcat Quotations.

As to the reasons why it was subject to imposed censorship and closed by some anonymous volunteer fellow poster - I will leave for you to judge.

It may have been because it was abused, by being used for a purpose for which it was not intended.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 17 Nov 05 - 06:27 PM


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 15 Nov 05 - 06:44 AM

Roger, How many years will it take to sink in, that you have NO civil rights here. None of us do.

The only rights on Mudcat belong to Max.

Joe and the Clones have duties allocated by Max, which they are obviously performing to his satisfaction.

The rest of us are guests, and with the greatest respect, it ill behoves one who regularly subverts the threads of other people to complain about minor alterations to his own.

Don T.

P.S. Now cut and paste another of my comments out of context as usual.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 15 Nov 05 - 06:09 AM

Subject: RE: BS: Blairs first defeat
From: Keith A of Hertford - PM
Date: 15 Nov 05 - 02:09 AM

>snip<
As for the judges, they are made unsackable to ensure their independence.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: wysiwyg
Date: 14 Nov 05 - 10:46 AM

Well my friend Giok, I believe I'll add a quote of my own. :~)

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hard-Working Ladies: Pampering Yourself?
From: WYSIWYG - PM
Date: 13 Nov 05 - 07:21 AM

Feeding trolls is a lot like shitting on the floor in the middle of a nice hot sauna. Sure, you can do it-- but do you feel right about it, later?

~Susan


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: GUEST,Giok
Date: 14 Nov 05 - 10:42 AM

I vote that this thread is purged of all irrelevant to the title postings, mine included, it is being subverted by one man's paranoia.
G.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Amos
Date: 14 Nov 05 - 09:59 AM

"It is kinda silly to place responsibility for your own happiness on some mystic chain of categories in the universe; you get the categories you make for yourself."

moi


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 14 Nov 05 - 02:02 AM

>Snip<

Every totalitarian regime has started with the removal of some civil rights "for the protection of the public" from a perceived, or a manufactured threat.

In each case the public has eventually been in need of protection from the regime itself.

Is this the way forward? I don't believe it is.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: pdq
Date: 11 Nov 05 - 09:31 PM

The Shambles crusade against 'the machine' is great theatre, much enjoyed by some of us, but maybe it should be taken some place else. This thread already contains some quotation gems and will likely receive many more.

If all of The Shambles' threads have been closed by Joe Offal, open a new one. The "Gallery of Mudcat Quotations" is too good to deserve this treatment.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 11 Nov 05 - 09:16 PM

Irrelevant to this thread. Please go away unless you have some quote from someone much wiser than I.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 11 Nov 05 - 05:36 AM

Subject: RE: BS: Blairs first defeat
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T - PM
Date: 10 Nov 05 - 12:54 PM

>Snip<
Erosion of civil rights is a not a process to be undertaken lightly, and the last people who should be trusted with it are those who call for it in the first place.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 16 Sep 05 - 01:04 PM

He'll be back to post an irrelevant quotation which in no way answers any points of yours or mine. However at present he's busy cutting and pasting crap in some other thread.
FO Roger.
Giok


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 16 Sep 05 - 12:16 PM

Still no answer.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 16 Sep 05 - 09:33 AM

Subject: RE: Cut-and-Paste Prohibitions
From: McGrath of Harlow - PM
Date: 19 Feb 03 - 07:32 PM

I know who you are...

Big Offer is watching you... But I can live with that.

Who was it said that there was a lot to be said for a system of government based on benevolent dictatorship tempered by revolution?



Sure made me laugh.

*Please note that some anonymous volunteer fellow poster has now passed judged upon this thread and has imposed relegatation of it - to the BS section.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 15 Sep 05 - 09:39 PM

And now, can we please have THIS thread back as a repository for wise and/or witty quotes?

Don T.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 15 Sep 05 - 09:37 PM

Roger, I have read your PM, and as it was a private communication I shall not publish it here. I do not, however intend to get involved in a pointless exchange of PMs duplicating what can already be seen in a huge number of threads, both past and current.

In answer to a couple of points:-

1. I do not consider you to BE a fool. That comment was, and would be recognised by most readers as, a (light hearted) metaphor. Since you did not realise that, I will put it plainly.

If one person says you are wrong, that is an opinion. If everyone says you are wrong, re-examine your basic premise.

Your post above in response to mine, proves my point rather neatly. You answer my reasoned comment, not with an equally reasoned rebuttal, but with a cut-and-paste from another poster on a totally unrelated thread.

You have become a sort of Mudcat Don Quixote, self appointed to defend the rights of us less enlightened souls, against a nebulous malevolent authority.

That's fine as far as it goes, but I really think that most of us would like to see a change of windmill.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 15 Sep 05 - 05:13 AM

Subject: RE: Cut-and-Paste Prohibitions
From: Cluin - PM
Date: 19 Feb 03 - 11:17 PM

That's what I've wondered about... how do these folk find the Mudcat? Do they come for the lyrics and stay for the flaming?


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 15 Sep 05 - 05:00 AM

I have to say, Roger, that your Mudcat moniker is one of the most apposite I have ever seen. You have reduced multiple threads on this forum to a shambles.

I have no objection to your expressing your opinion on any subject that takes your fancy, but I do object to the way in which you choose to exercise that right for the following reasons.

1. You do not discuss, you rant. When someone disagrees with you, you do not present a response, you repeat the original rant, in slightly different form.

2. You do not answer specific questions, you once again present the original rant.

3. You constantly quote others out of context, twisting their comment to support your case.

4. You do all the above in language one might expect to find in a contract from a dodgy loan company. i.e. largely incomprehensible.

5. You constantly admonish others for passing judgement on you, while daily passing similar judgements on Joe and the clones.

6. You do all the above on multiple threads, many of which have subjects worthy of discussion, but are totally disrupted by your unnecessary input.

When one person tells you you're a fool, that's just his opinion. When everybody tells you you're a fool, go buy a cap and bells and look for a king in need of a jester.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 15 Sep 05 - 04:59 AM

And that proves what exactly Roger?
G.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 15 Sep 05 - 04:37 AM

The idea of intentionally posting to change the intended subject of a thread is one that is now thought by some of our contributors - not only to be acceptable but also to be an amusing diversion and is an example that is eagerly followed by others.

In my opinion - it is not acceptable. This thread is for notable quotes - like the following:

http://www.mudcat.org/Detail.CFM?messages__Message_ID=1499823

I agree with both the preceeding guests, I have only been around for about 4 years, but in that time I've seen people condemned and castigated for a lot less the Martin Gibson got away with. I was disappointed that Joe Offer seemed to excuse him while on the other hand crossing swords with The Shambles over much less offensive postings. I also found it funny that a lot of people seemed to excuse Martin's behaviour on the grounds that he was pretty knowledgable on some aspects of folk music, and anyway he was being rude mostly below the line, which some seem to regard as 'beyond the pale' anyway. That's a bit like saying you excuse Hitler because he was good with kids. As has been said MG should have been curbed long before he got to be the problem he has to quite a few people, and he did show up a weakness in the policing of this forum that I love.
Giok


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 15 Sep 05 - 04:15 AM

I second that Giok

DT


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 15 Sep 05 - 03:56 AM

Roger once again you use this thread wrongly in my opinion, it is for sometimes wise, and some times funny 'quotable quotes' which are thought worthy of perpetuation by people drawing fellow Mudcatters attention to them, and hopefully they will share the posters appreciation of the quote.
IT IS NOT a vehicle for you to pursue your paranoid campaign against perceived slights and affronts to you and your deathless [sic] prose PLEASE Roger will you for fucks sake give it a rest or better still take your obsessions elsewhere, because everybody I speak to about it is as fed up with your tripe as I am.
Giok


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 15 Sep 05 - 02:13 AM

The first post – in a thread that was wrongly closed by someone still unknown and then re-opened by Joe Offer. Closing threads

Subject: Tech: Closing threads?
From: The Shambles - PM
Date: 28 Aug 05 - 03:59 PM

Is there some technical advantage given to the general effective running of our forum - by the closing of threads?

Does it make the site less technically effective in any way or make it run slower - if all threads are left open for new contributions?

No technical reason at all, Shambles. We do it for valid but non-technical reasons that I've explained below. That's why I moved this thread to the "BS" section.
Next question?
-Joe Offer-


And the last post – and the reasons why Joe Offer decided to close it (again)!

Subject: RE: Tech: Closing threads?
From: Joe Offer - PM
Date: 14 Sep 05 - 01:09 PM

OK, so now I know which volunteer closed the thread, and we've discussed the matter.
And as I've said earlier in this thread, it's an internal matter and has been resolved internally. That being said, I can't say anything more. Shambles has his honest answer, so I think it's time to close this thread.
-Joe Offer-

If you really see a need to join Shambles in discussing this subject further, see Opening threads a debate, which is really about closing threads.


Hopefully this thread (and every other thread) will be free of the imposed movement and two closures that Closing threads   Has been subject to..........For 'valid but non technical reasons'? You judge....


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Amos
Date: 13 Sep 05 - 09:46 AM

As with state and church, the best government will strive to firmly separate state and hatred.

A


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: JennyO
Date: 29 Aug 05 - 10:19 AM

Subject: RE: BS: '---' goes off meds again, revives Shat
From: Joe Offer - PM
Date: 27 Mar 05 - 10:18 PM

Oh, Shit....

13 Shatner threads active today. I wonder what asshole is responsible for this. If I use my "delete" button, then Shambles will reopen 43 censorship threads.

Maybe I'll just call Martin Gibson a #$%& and leave it at that...


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: jeffp
Date: 24 Aug 05 - 09:39 AM

Subject: (thread title change complaint)
From: Joe Offer - PM
Date: 23 Aug 05 - 03:06 PM

Well, let me tell you a story:


Once upon a time, there was a very nice boy named Roger. At least, his mother thought he was a very nice boy. Everything went along swimmingly in Roger's life because his mother adored him. Until he went to Kindergarten. Well, actually, Kindergarten went along quite well, and Little Roger played very well with the other children, and he ended the school year with an "A" in Sandbox. And Little Roger was the Teacher's Pet, and was very loyal to his Teacher Mrs. Offer and always said nice things about her.

But then in First Grade, when Mrs. Offer was still his teacher, Roger learned how to give speeches. He liked to hear himself give speeches, so he gave speeches constantly, and he began having problems. His mother still adored him and thought his speeches were wonderful, but Roger soon found that others did not adore him properly, and he became quite unhappy with their lack of deference. He simply couldn't understand why the other children didn't listen to him, and why they didn't share his opinions, and why they acted bored when he gave the same three-hour speech every day. He became especially upset when the children began to mimic and mock his speechifying. He became even more upset when Mrs. Offer asked him nicely to be quiet and give the other children time to give speeches. So Roger began acting out.

He decided that the teacher, Mrs. Offer, was responsible for all of his unhappiness. Mrs. Offer was a very nice person and tried to treat all the children with equal niceness, but she did not adore little Roger. Since Mrs. Offer did not show him proper deference, little Roger decided she was nice at all, and he began to question her authority. Thirty times a day, little Roger passed notes around the class, listing out-of-context excerpts from all the things that Mrs. Offer had said over her entire career as teacher. Little Roger would get up in class and give long speeches about how the Principal, Maxine Mirror, had supreme authority in the school and certainly didn't like the dictatorial way that Mrs. Offer conducted class, and that the class certainly should not listen to anything Mrs. Offer had to say. Most of the class disagreed with Little Roger, and they spent the entire day trying to convince Roger that he was wrong. Now, there was one little girl, HappyGirl, who loved Roger and believed everything he said, and she loved to listen to his three-hour speeches. Roger thought it was very nice that HappyGirl believed in him, and this inspired him to increase the length of his speeches to four hours. As a result of this, First Grade seemed to last forever, and the children were very bored. And nobody learned Proper Grammar. And Little Roger's grammar was worst of all.

As luck would have it, Mrs. Offer was promoted to Second Grade the next year, and she was given a very substantial raise in pay and a much larger classroom. And wouldn't you know it, Little Roger was promoted to Second Grade, too. Because Mrs. Offer had so much extra work, Mrs. Mirror the Principal appointed certain children to clean the blackboard and tidy up the classroom. Mrs. Mirror did not publish a list of children who were authorized to clean the blackboard, and Little Roger was very distrustful of this policy. The Blackboard Cleaners were appointed by Mrs. Mirror herself, but Little Roger found it convenient to question their Authority to Erase Blackboards. Little Roger declared that the Only True Decisions could be made by Mrs. Mirror, and that nobody could trust the Evil Mrs. Offer and the Blackboard Cleaners and their conspiracy to deprive little innocent schoolchildren of their right to Know Nothing and to speak with Improper Grammar. Furthermore, Little Roger declared that not one word should be erased from the blackboard without the permission of the person who wrote that word. And time went on, and Little Roger gave his four-hour speeches and passed thirty notes a day through the classroom all year during Second Grade, and all the children fell asleep, and still nobody learned Proper Grammar, but Mrs. Offer and everybody were promoted to Third Grade the next year.

And to they all were promoted again to Fourth Grade after another year of speeches and messages about all the horrible things Mrs. Offer had done since Kindergarten. Little Roger kept talking about how wonderful and benevolent the Principal Maxine Mirror was, and Mrs. Offer often suggest that Little Roger should go to Mrs. Mirror and discuss his unhappiness. But Little Roger never spoke to Mrs. Mirror, because he was afraid that Mrs. Mirror might disagree with him. Still, he continued to make speeches about how Mrs. Mirror was truly wise and agreed with everything Little Roger said, and that Mrs. Mirror actually despised Mrs. Offer and thought that she was a horrible teacher.

And finally, on the very last day of Fourth Grade, Mrs. Offer got tired of all of Little Roger's manipulation and speechifying, and she said:
Shut Up, Roger, You Asshole!
And the police came and arrested Mrs. Offer on a felony charge of Child Abuse for Using Naughty Language in the Presence of a Child.

And she was sentenced to thirty years in prison, and there she is to this very day.

End of story.

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No, it's not the end of the story. What happened was that Little Roger was appointed Teacher, which was a Fate Worse Than Death because HappyGirl turned on him, and made his life More Miserable Than One Could Imagine.

And Mrs. Offer was very pleased that she was safely locked away in prison. And she formed a song circle with the prison guards and they spent the rest of their days singing happily away. And Mrs. Offer forgot about Proper Grammar and became the World Authority on Prison Songs and was recorded by Alan Lomax and got a pardon from the Governor and a star on the sidewalk of Hollywood Boulevard.

And Mrs. Offer forgot all about Poor Little Roger. And then Mrs. Offer had a sex change operation and became Mr. Offer, and became a Forum Moderator at the Mudcat Cafe.

I thought the story should have a happy ending, but I do wish that it had a happier ending for Poor Little Roger. I lied about Mrs. Offer being still in prison, and I apologize publicly for that. I apologize sincerely for all my failures, but I did try so hard to help Roger learn to speak with Proper Grammar. He learned to speak long and often, but he never did learn to speak well. And he never, ever learned the meaning of the word "succinct." Such is life.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Bill D
Date: 24 Aug 05 - 09:34 AM

what part of that collection of mish-mash is supposed to be the special, timeless quotation?


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 24 Aug 05 - 09:07 AM

Roger I think you'll find that this is a thread where other people blow your trumpet for you!
G..


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 24 Aug 05 - 08:51 AM

Subject: RE: HI Max: What about Shambles requests?
From: The Shambles - PM
Date: 23 Aug 05 - 02:08 PM

Shambles, what part of what MMario said do you not understand? It is quite clear to most of us that this site belongs to Max. We have NO say in how it is run.


Kendall - It is indeed long been clear that this site belongs to Max and I for one have no wish to have a say in how Max's site is run.

However this is a part of Max's website that he has very generously set aside for invited contributions from the public and called the Mudcat Discussion Forum. I have some agreement - for my reference to this part of Max's site - as our forum. It is from a very unlikely source - and perhaps you would agree with the both of us?


[PM] Joe Offer BS: Censorship on Mudcat (1009* d) RE: BS: Censorship on Mudcat 31 Mar 05

Well, I have to agree with Shambles that Max seems to convey the idea that this is "our" forum. However, it also seems quite clear that very few of us want "our" forum to be taken over by those who would wish to make it a place of combat and chaos.

So, Max appointed some of us to try to keep down the worst of the nastiness. We don't do enough to satisfy some people (Clinton Hammond, for example), and we do too much to satisfy Shambles.

So, we continue to stumble along what we see as the middle path, knowing that we will never satisfy everybody. Such is life.

-Joe Offer-


Our forum is certainly not Joe Offer's and it does not say that it is in the FAQ - yet.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: wysiwyg
Date: 23 Aug 05 - 06:19 PM

Subject: RE: HI Max: What about Shambles requests?
From: The Shambles - PM
Date: 23 Aug 05 - 02:08 PM

...

... I for one have no wish to have a say in how Max's site is run.


~Susan


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 17 Aug 05 - 07:26 PM

Subject: RE: BS: Intelligent Assessment On Fascism
From: Don Firth - PM
Date: 17 Aug 05 - 04:53 PM

I think that in most people's minds, the word "fascism" conjures up images of black uniforms, swastika armbands, jackboots, and goose-stepping troops. But that sort of image is just one dictator's particular style. Fascists can just as easily be found wearing dark suits and power ties, while smiling pleasantly in board rooms and Congressional committee meetings. Nor does the definition of fascism require racism, such as Hitler's anti-Semitism. It usually does, however, need some kind of scapegoat to keep the populace a bit scared and to justify the steps it wants to take to tighten its authority. Gays, or terrorists, or pro-choicers, or those who are adamant about not want religion crammed down their throats—or the most dreaded evil force of all:   "liberals"—can fill that function just as well.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Bill D
Date: 15 Aug 05 - 10:03 AM

when freda says nothing, she doesn't necessarily MEAN nothing.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: freda underhill
Date: 15 Aug 05 - 07:03 AM


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Amos
Date: 01 Aug 05 - 02:30 PM

Peter T has a flight of fancy about George Bush addressing the Boy Scouts:

"But perhaps he decided to show up in order to drum up recruits for the Iraq War some years down the road given the way it is going (unless he is considering dramatically lowering the recruitment age requirement the way it has just been raised at the other end of the age cohort.)

"Scouts!! When Alexander the Great was your age he was wandering around in the Middle East!!! We are wandering around in the Middle East!!! So I was thinking.......""


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 01 Aug 05 - 08:52 AM

Subject: RE: BS: Left-Handed, 5 pocket Jeans
From: gnu - PM
Date: 31 Jul 05 - 08:17 PM

Yeah... some jeans are like a cheap hotel... no ballroom.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: jacqui.c
Date: 01 Aug 05 - 08:46 AM

Subject: RE: BS: Have the Libs/Conservs Traded Places?...
From: Peace - PM
Date: 31 Jul 05 - 12:19 AM

'It's really simple, Bobert. Some folks have to be brainwashed. For others, a light rinse will do.'

Subject: RE: BS: Have the Libs/Conservs Traded Places?...
From: Peace - PM
Date: 31 Jul 05 - 01:36 AM

'The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has limits.'


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