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Lyr Req: Seven Yellow Gypsies (Dolores Keane)

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Roberto 04 Apr 04 - 11:15 AM
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Subject: Lyr Add: SEVEN YELLOW GYPSIES (from Dolores Keane)
From: Roberto
Date: 04 Apr 04 - 11:15 AM

I'd like someone to correct this transcription of SEVEN YELLOW GYPSIES as sung by DOLORES KEANE on Claddagh's Choice, an anthology of Irish traditional music, Claddagh CC40/65. In the fourth stanza, the town mentioned sounds to me like Strathberry, but I'm sure it is something else. Thanks. R


There was seven yellow gypsies all in a gang
There was none of them lame or lazy-O
Sure the fairest one is among them all
She is going with the dark-eye gypsy-O

Oh will you come with me, me pretty fair maid?
Will you come with me, me honey-O?
Sure I wouldn't give a kiss of the gypsy laddie's lips
Not for all of Cashill's money-O

Oh saddle for me me pretty white steed
Saddle him up so bonny-O
So that I may go and find me own wedded wife
That she's going with the dark-eye gypsy-O

Oh she rode west but he rode best
Until he came to Strathberry (??????????)
When who shall he find but his own wedded wife
She is going with the dark-eye gypsy-O

Oh will you come with me, me pretty fair maid?
Will you come with me, me honey-O?
Sure I wouldn't give a kiss of the gypsy laddie's lips
Not for all of Cashill's money-O

Oh what will you do to your house and your land?
What will you do to money-O?
Oh what will you do with your two fine beds
Now you're going with the dark eye gyspsy-O?

Oh what will you do to your fine feather bed
With the sheets turned down so bonny-O?
Oh what will you do with your own wedded lord
Now you're going with the dark eye gyspsy-O?

Oh what do I care for me house and me land?
What do I care for me money-O?
And what do I care for me to fine beds
Now I'm going with the dark eye gyspsy-O?

Last night I lay on a fine feather bed
With the sheets turned down so bonny-O
But tonight I lay on a cold barn floor
With seven yellow gypsies to annoy me-O

Oh will you come with me, me pretty fair maid?
Will you come with me, me honey-O?
Sure I want toget a kiss of the gypsy laddie's lips
Than you and all your money-O


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: dolores keane's seven yellow gypsies
From: AnneMC
Date: 17 May 04 - 03:43 PM

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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: dolores keane's seven yellow gypsies
From: Bearheart
Date: 19 Jun 04 - 01:54 PM

Also interested in words to this. Have searched the web for Dolores Keane stuff to try to get more info on it but with no luck. Anyone out there who can help out? Like Roberto the place name has me stymied, and the next to last line doesn't scan with what I remember. This is about my favorite version of this ballad. PLEASE... I know there are folks out there who would know, and Roberto's done most of the work.

Bekki


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: dolores keane's seven yellow gypsies
From: Bearheart
Date: 19 Jun 04 - 04:42 PM

Well, in looking into another thread (Johnny and Molly) and checking the liner notes, I realized that this song was first recorded by her on the same album (There Was a Maid) and that there might be some clues there for this song as well.

Dolores learned this song "from Paddy Doran and John Reilly, both travelling people from Northern Ireland". The notes further say that it has some similarities with one of Child's versions from Co. Meath.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: dolores keane's seven yellow gypsies
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 19 Jun 04 - 05:47 PM

This really does emphasise yet again the importance of people quoting sleevenotes, particularly where sources are concerned, when asking about songs they have heard on records. Without that information, much time may unnecessarily be wasted by people trying to help.

John Reilly had two distinct versions of the song, only one of which I know. Paddy Doran had a different one, three verses of which (I don't know if there were any more) appear in Paddy Tunney's book The Stone Fiddle. The text above would seem to be a much-altered collation. John Reilly died in 1969; did Dolores learn directly from him or from recordings?

The place name would be Strabally, according to the Doran set as quoted by Paddy Tunney.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Seven Yellow Gypsies (Dolores Keane)
From: GUEST,Niall McQuaid
Date: 07 Dec 12 - 02:12 PM

I know this is 8 years later but I think the town you are referring to is Stradbally in County Laois, so its possibly Childs version from County Meath considering this is quite close to County Laois.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Seven Yellow Gypsies (Dolores Keane)
From: Bearheart
Date: 05 Mar 14 - 10:52 PM

Interesting to come around to this again years later, and find answers. Don't know how I missed Malcolm's reply in 04. Mudcat always seems to come through. So grateful for this resource and the people who make it work.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Seven Yellow Gypsies (Dolores Keane)
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 06 Mar 14 - 03:33 AM

As Neill said, the place is Stradbally in County Laois.
Dolores version came from the singing of Paddy Doran who was recorded by the BBC in 1952 under the title 'The Gypsy Laddie, along with another group of Travellers (details below).
The information in the BBC index is somewhat misleading as I'm pretty certain none of those recorded came from the North of Ireland; Paddy and his wife Mary were, I think, from Wexford and Lal Smith was from Caherciveen in Kerry, as was her father, Christie Purcell
All were listed as coming from Belfast, where the recordings were made.
One of the finest pieces of singing from the group was Mary Connor's 'When I Was on Horseback, a stunning version of 'St James' Hospital; she also sang the Irish version of the ballad 'Edward' (What Put the Blood')
Sadly, none of the group were ever recorded again, though we did meet some of their families in London in the 1970s.
Jim Carroll

DORAN, Paddy
Singer,   Tinker's camp, Dan O'Neill's loaning, Belfast. 24.7,52 and 1.8.52
Section 1.
Black velvet band (i): 18578; Blackwaterside (2): 18579; Clahamon Town (with Mary Connors): 18585: Dungarvon; 18573; Gipsy laddie (4): 18579; Kitty from Ballinasloe; 18538; Little Beggarman 18550; Marrowbones (1) with (Mary Connors): 18584; (). Our Goodman (1): (with Mary Connors) 18584; Seventeen come Sunday (4) 18580; Three butchers. (2): 18551.
Section 6,
Blackbird (lilting): Miss MacLeod's Reel (lilting) 18550.


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