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Acme 12 Apr 04 - 03:47 PM
Little Hawk 12 Apr 04 - 03:54 PM
Rapparee 12 Apr 04 - 04:12 PM
Amos 12 Apr 04 - 04:15 PM
Chief Chaos 12 Apr 04 - 04:40 PM
Acme 12 Apr 04 - 04:51 PM
Ebbie 12 Apr 04 - 10:13 PM
Acme 15 Apr 04 - 01:53 PM
Amos 15 Apr 04 - 02:01 PM
Chief Chaos 15 Apr 04 - 02:02 PM
Acme 15 Apr 04 - 04:27 PM
Rapparee 15 Apr 04 - 06:23 PM
SueB 16 Apr 04 - 01:06 AM
LadyJean 16 Apr 04 - 01:10 AM
freda underhill 16 Apr 04 - 01:20 AM
LadyJean 16 Apr 04 - 01:39 AM
Amos 16 Apr 04 - 08:24 AM
Acme 16 Apr 04 - 10:45 AM
Acme 18 Apr 04 - 04:04 PM
Acme 18 Apr 04 - 04:05 PM
Acme 22 Apr 04 - 02:26 PM
Amos 22 Apr 04 - 02:33 PM
Acme 22 Apr 04 - 03:01 PM
Mudlark 22 Apr 04 - 05:58 PM
Acme 23 Apr 04 - 12:19 AM
Acme 25 Apr 04 - 01:12 PM
Mudlark 25 Apr 04 - 03:50 PM
Acme 25 Apr 04 - 05:11 PM
Acme 29 Apr 04 - 12:08 AM
Acme 30 Apr 04 - 11:17 AM
Acme 10 May 04 - 09:32 PM
Amos 10 May 04 - 09:44 PM
Acme 12 May 04 - 04:31 PM
Acme 13 May 04 - 02:18 PM
Mudlark 14 May 04 - 12:43 AM
Cluin 14 May 04 - 12:50 AM
Amos 14 May 04 - 07:17 AM
Mudlark 15 May 04 - 02:08 AM
Acme 15 May 04 - 01:23 PM
Acme 17 May 04 - 12:15 AM
Acme 17 May 04 - 02:09 PM
Acme 20 May 04 - 12:17 AM
Amos 20 May 04 - 02:27 AM
Uncle_DaveO 20 May 04 - 12:18 PM
Acme 21 May 04 - 03:23 PM
Mudlark 22 May 04 - 12:45 PM
Amos 22 May 04 - 12:57 PM
GUEST 23 May 04 - 06:14 PM
Acme 31 May 04 - 09:23 PM
Acme 10 Jun 04 - 10:57 PM
GUEST 11 Jun 04 - 06:18 AM
JennyO 11 Jun 04 - 11:06 AM
Amos 11 Jun 04 - 12:07 PM
Acme 11 Jun 04 - 04:48 PM
Acme 13 Jun 04 - 12:55 PM
Mudlark 13 Jun 04 - 01:26 PM
Acme 13 Jun 04 - 01:31 PM
Amos 13 Jun 04 - 02:52 PM
Acme 16 Jun 04 - 11:34 AM
Amos 16 Jun 04 - 12:38 PM
Acme 17 Jun 04 - 12:26 PM
Acme 18 Jun 04 - 12:44 AM
Acme 22 Jun 04 - 05:35 PM
Acme 23 Jun 04 - 12:29 PM
Amos 23 Jun 04 - 12:35 PM
Acme 23 Jun 04 - 08:17 PM
Acme 09 Jul 04 - 01:38 PM
Amos 09 Jul 04 - 02:48 PM
Acme 12 Jul 04 - 01:52 PM
Acme 15 Jul 04 - 11:31 AM
wysiwyg 15 Jul 04 - 11:37 AM
Acme 15 Jul 04 - 02:54 PM
wysiwyg 15 Jul 04 - 04:37 PM
Bagpuss 16 Jul 04 - 09:17 AM
Acme 16 Jul 04 - 02:15 PM
saulgoldie 16 Jul 04 - 04:04 PM
Acme 18 Jul 04 - 03:14 AM
Acme 20 Jul 04 - 04:04 PM
Acme 23 Jul 04 - 10:44 AM
Acme 02 Aug 04 - 09:05 AM
JennyO 02 Aug 04 - 11:04 AM
Acme 02 Aug 04 - 11:22 PM
JennyO 02 Aug 04 - 11:40 PM
Amos 03 Aug 04 - 12:43 AM
Acme 10 Aug 04 - 09:19 AM
Acme 16 Aug 04 - 10:16 AM
Acme 18 Aug 04 - 07:53 PM
Acme 27 Aug 04 - 11:41 AM
The Fooles Troupe 01 Sep 04 - 06:00 AM
Acme 23 Sep 04 - 10:42 PM
Acme 25 Sep 04 - 11:54 PM
Mudlark 26 Sep 04 - 02:58 AM
Acme 26 Sep 04 - 03:20 AM
The Fooles Troupe 26 Sep 04 - 03:42 AM
Acme 26 Sep 04 - 09:26 AM
The Fooles Troupe 26 Sep 04 - 09:41 AM
The Fooles Troupe 26 Sep 04 - 10:48 AM
Acme 11 Nov 04 - 11:10 AM
Paco Rabanne 11 Nov 04 - 11:36 AM
Paco Rabanne 11 Nov 04 - 11:36 AM
Acme 11 Nov 04 - 11:51 AM
Acme 12 Nov 04 - 10:32 PM
Acme 18 Nov 04 - 12:27 PM
Acme 18 Nov 04 - 12:36 PM
The Fooles Troupe 26 Nov 04 - 09:22 AM
The Fooles Troupe 26 Nov 04 - 10:08 AM
The Fooles Troupe 26 Nov 04 - 10:11 AM
Acme 28 Nov 04 - 03:44 PM
The Fooles Troupe 28 Nov 04 - 08:00 PM
Acme 29 Nov 04 - 01:29 PM
Amos 29 Nov 04 - 06:11 PM
Acme 29 Nov 04 - 11:54 PM
Amos 30 Nov 04 - 12:05 AM
Acme 16 Dec 04 - 10:36 AM
Amos 16 Dec 04 - 06:42 PM
Acme 17 Dec 04 - 10:34 AM
Nick 17 Dec 04 - 11:17 AM
kindaloupehackenweez 17 Dec 04 - 02:57 PM
Acme 17 Dec 04 - 04:15 PM
kindaloupehackenweez 18 Dec 04 - 03:08 PM
Acme 22 Dec 04 - 11:12 AM
The Fooles Troupe 24 Dec 04 - 12:30 AM
Acme 24 Dec 04 - 02:00 AM
The Fooles Troupe 24 Dec 04 - 06:11 AM
Acme 27 Dec 04 - 01:57 AM
Acme 20 Jan 05 - 11:03 AM
Amos 20 Jan 05 - 12:29 PM
Bert 20 Jan 05 - 01:47 PM
Acme 24 Jan 05 - 10:03 PM
Amos 24 Jan 05 - 11:29 PM
The Fooles Troupe 25 Jan 05 - 06:31 PM
GUEST,Amos 27 Jan 05 - 09:14 AM
The Fooles Troupe 28 Jan 05 - 02:06 AM
The Fooles Troupe 28 Jan 05 - 02:14 AM
The Fooles Troupe 28 Jan 05 - 02:20 AM
Amos 28 Jan 05 - 08:48 AM
Acme 28 Jan 05 - 02:58 PM
Cluin 29 Jan 05 - 07:57 AM
Amos 29 Jan 05 - 10:14 AM
Acme 29 Jan 05 - 02:33 PM
Acme 01 Feb 05 - 01:59 AM
The Fooles Troupe 04 Feb 05 - 08:46 PM
The Fooles Troupe 04 Feb 05 - 08:52 PM
Acme 04 Feb 05 - 10:43 PM
GUEST,foolestroupe - "I come fru da window!" 05 Feb 05 - 08:16 AM
GUEST,heric 07 Feb 05 - 12:31 PM
The Fooles Troupe 07 Feb 05 - 05:18 PM
Acme 07 Feb 05 - 06:19 PM
JennyO 07 Feb 05 - 09:30 PM
Acme 08 Feb 05 - 04:23 PM
wysiwyg 09 Feb 05 - 12:08 AM
wysiwyg 09 Feb 05 - 12:15 AM
Cluin 09 Feb 05 - 01:07 AM
GUEST,foolestroupe - "I come fru da window!" 09 Feb 05 - 06:41 AM
GUEST,foolestroupe - "I come fru da window!" 09 Feb 05 - 06:50 AM
GUEST,foolestroupe - "I come fru da window!" 09 Feb 05 - 07:04 AM
GUEST 09 Feb 05 - 02:32 PM
Acme 11 Feb 05 - 07:23 PM
The Fooles Troupe 13 Feb 05 - 08:41 PM
Acme 25 Feb 05 - 11:07 PM
Amos 26 Feb 05 - 11:39 AM
Acme 26 Feb 05 - 02:09 PM
Little Hawk 26 Feb 05 - 02:20 PM
Amos 26 Feb 05 - 04:13 PM
Acme 26 Feb 05 - 11:49 PM
Acme 10 Mar 05 - 12:39 AM
Acme 15 Mar 05 - 12:16 PM
Acme 16 Mar 05 - 11:00 PM
The Fooles Troupe 17 Mar 05 - 09:02 AM
GUEST,Stilly River Sage 18 Mar 05 - 12:16 PM
GUEST,Stilly River Sage 20 Mar 05 - 11:57 AM
gnu 20 Mar 05 - 12:07 PM
Acme 21 Mar 05 - 10:50 AM
Acme 24 Mar 05 - 11:21 PM
Acme 25 Mar 05 - 11:31 AM
Acme 25 Mar 05 - 11:32 AM
Amos 25 Mar 05 - 11:57 AM
Rapparee 25 Mar 05 - 12:30 PM
Amos 25 Mar 05 - 04:03 PM
Acme 25 Mar 05 - 04:35 PM
GUEST,Stilly River Sage 27 Mar 05 - 11:47 AM
GUEST,Stilly River Sage 29 Mar 05 - 10:38 AM
GUEST,Amos 29 Mar 05 - 10:48 AM
GUEST,Stilly River Sage 29 Mar 05 - 10:59 AM
Amos 31 Mar 05 - 10:45 AM
Acme 31 Mar 05 - 10:48 AM
Acme 01 Apr 05 - 01:40 AM
Amos 01 Apr 05 - 04:32 AM
Acme 09 Apr 05 - 12:15 AM
Amos 12 Apr 05 - 05:52 PM
The Fooles Troupe 13 Apr 05 - 06:53 AM
Amos 13 Apr 05 - 09:19 AM
GUEST,Stilly River Sage 13 Apr 05 - 11:48 AM
The Fooles Troupe 13 Apr 05 - 07:33 PM
Shanghaiceltic 13 Apr 05 - 07:56 PM
Acme 13 Apr 05 - 08:09 PM
Acme 15 Apr 05 - 07:59 PM
Leadfingers 15 Apr 05 - 08:55 PM
Leadfingers 15 Apr 05 - 08:55 PM
GUEST,Charley Noble 16 Apr 05 - 09:33 AM
Acme 16 Apr 05 - 09:44 AM
GUEST,Amos 16 Apr 05 - 10:29 AM
The Fooles Troupe 16 Apr 05 - 06:17 PM
Acme 16 Apr 05 - 07:57 PM
The Fooles Troupe 17 Apr 05 - 05:01 AM
The Fooles Troupe 18 Apr 05 - 05:31 AM
Acme 19 Apr 05 - 11:11 AM
GUEST 20 Apr 05 - 09:16 AM
The Fooles Troupe 21 Apr 05 - 08:02 AM
The Fooles Troupe 21 Apr 05 - 08:11 AM
GUEST,Stilly River Sage 22 Apr 05 - 10:40 AM
Amos 23 Apr 05 - 01:20 PM
Acme 23 Apr 05 - 02:22 PM
Acme 25 Apr 05 - 02:11 PM
Acme 25 Apr 05 - 02:27 PM
Donuel 25 Apr 05 - 06:10 PM
Amos 25 Apr 05 - 06:18 PM
Amos 26 Apr 05 - 09:30 AM
Acme 26 Apr 05 - 10:36 AM
Amos 26 Apr 05 - 11:19 AM
Acme 26 Apr 05 - 11:32 AM
Acme 26 Apr 05 - 12:11 PM
Charley Noble 26 Apr 05 - 05:55 PM
Acme 29 Apr 05 - 12:56 PM
Acme 29 Apr 05 - 03:33 PM
Amos 29 Apr 05 - 04:30 PM
Burke 30 Apr 05 - 03:43 PM
Amos 30 Apr 05 - 05:08 PM
Amos 01 May 05 - 12:25 AM
GUEST,Mary Jo 02 May 05 - 06:16 AM
Charley Noble 02 May 05 - 08:40 AM
Charley Noble 02 May 05 - 08:44 AM
Acme 02 May 05 - 10:54 AM
Acme 02 May 05 - 11:03 AM
Acme 05 May 05 - 08:13 PM
Acme 09 May 05 - 11:49 AM
Acme 13 May 05 - 03:01 PM
Acme 13 May 05 - 05:03 PM
Charley Noble 13 May 05 - 05:30 PM
GUEST,Stilly River Sage 14 May 05 - 12:17 PM
Acme 15 May 05 - 12:01 PM
Acme 18 May 05 - 03:27 PM
Shanghaiceltic 24 May 05 - 08:30 PM
GUEST,Stilly River Sage 25 May 05 - 12:19 AM
Acme 21 Jun 05 - 02:47 PM
Charley Noble 21 Jun 05 - 04:50 PM
Acme 30 Jun 05 - 08:33 AM
GUEST,Charley Noble 30 Jun 05 - 05:38 PM
Acme 08 Jul 05 - 09:47 AM
Acme 11 Jul 05 - 10:14 AM
Donuel 11 Jul 05 - 01:57 PM
Acme 13 Jul 05 - 01:01 AM
Acme 19 Jul 05 - 06:07 PM
Donuel 20 Jul 05 - 09:43 AM
Donuel 20 Jul 05 - 09:49 AM
Uncle_DaveO 20 Jul 05 - 10:07 AM
Acme 24 Jul 05 - 12:18 PM
Acme 06 Aug 05 - 03:15 PM
Amos 06 Aug 05 - 03:47 PM
Acme 06 Aug 05 - 11:38 PM
Acme 10 Aug 05 - 12:23 AM
Acme 15 Aug 05 - 10:39 AM
Acme 15 Aug 05 - 03:49 PM
Amos 15 Aug 05 - 04:03 PM
Acme 25 Aug 05 - 05:25 PM
The Fooles Troupe 25 Aug 05 - 07:47 PM
Acme 27 Aug 05 - 05:32 PM
Acme 14 Sep 05 - 11:14 AM
Acme 21 Sep 05 - 01:57 PM
Acme 24 Sep 05 - 03:43 PM
Donuel 24 Sep 05 - 05:00 PM
Amos 29 Sep 05 - 11:41 AM
Acme 29 Sep 05 - 12:44 PM
Acme 05 Oct 05 - 03:16 PM
The Fooles Troupe 05 Oct 05 - 09:55 PM
Acme 06 Oct 05 - 10:40 AM
Amos 06 Oct 05 - 11:01 AM
Acme 06 Oct 05 - 03:10 PM
Joe Offer 10 Oct 05 - 12:19 AM
Acme 10 Oct 05 - 12:53 AM
The Fooles Troupe 10 Oct 05 - 07:10 AM
Amos 10 Oct 05 - 07:26 AM
JennyO 10 Oct 05 - 11:37 AM
Acme 13 Oct 05 - 06:44 PM
JohnInKansas 16 Oct 05 - 05:59 AM
Acme 16 Oct 05 - 10:17 AM
Acme 03 Nov 05 - 03:59 PM
Acme 03 Nov 05 - 06:05 PM
Bill D 03 Nov 05 - 07:55 PM
Amos 03 Nov 05 - 10:59 PM
Acme 05 Nov 05 - 03:25 PM
Acme 11 Nov 05 - 01:16 PM
Acme 12 Nov 05 - 11:13 AM
Acme 13 Nov 05 - 12:45 AM
Acme 17 Nov 05 - 11:44 AM
Acme 17 Nov 05 - 12:53 PM
Acme 17 Nov 05 - 03:09 PM
Acme 17 Nov 05 - 03:09 PM
Don Firth 17 Nov 05 - 03:15 PM
Acme 17 Nov 05 - 03:16 PM
Amos 17 Nov 05 - 03:34 PM
Acme 17 Nov 05 - 04:38 PM
Acme 26 Nov 05 - 11:10 AM
Jim Dixon 15 Dec 05 - 03:18 PM
Acme 24 Dec 05 - 10:21 AM
Ebbie 27 Dec 05 - 08:15 PM
Acme 27 Dec 05 - 10:40 PM
Ebbie 27 Dec 05 - 11:49 PM
Acme 28 Dec 05 - 12:03 AM
Ebbie 28 Dec 05 - 12:24 AM
Acme 28 Dec 05 - 09:10 AM
Amos 28 Dec 05 - 09:44 AM
Acme 28 Dec 05 - 11:16 AM
Charley Noble 28 Dec 05 - 12:30 PM
Amos 28 Dec 05 - 12:39 PM
Amos 28 Dec 05 - 12:50 PM
Acme 28 Dec 05 - 01:30 PM
The Fooles Troupe 29 Dec 05 - 08:35 AM
Acme 02 Jan 06 - 08:11 AM
Acme 03 Jan 06 - 09:09 AM
GUEST,Joe_F 03 Jan 06 - 08:31 PM
Acme 03 Jan 06 - 08:50 PM
Acme 06 Jan 06 - 01:15 PM
Amos 06 Jan 06 - 02:44 PM
Acme 06 Jan 06 - 09:36 PM
Acme 22 Jan 06 - 04:57 PM
Charley Noble 22 Jan 06 - 05:22 PM
Acme 23 Jan 06 - 10:57 AM
Amos 23 Jan 06 - 12:43 PM
Acme 26 Jan 06 - 11:47 AM
Bunnahabhain 26 Jan 06 - 12:27 PM
Acme 27 Jan 06 - 12:31 PM
Acme 27 Jan 06 - 01:08 PM
Skivee 28 Jan 06 - 01:35 AM
Acme 28 Jan 06 - 11:06 AM
Acme 31 Jan 06 - 11:10 PM
Acme 01 Feb 06 - 06:02 PM
Amos 07 Feb 06 - 11:32 AM
Acme 07 Feb 06 - 10:57 PM
Acme 09 Feb 06 - 05:04 PM
Acme 12 Feb 06 - 05:24 PM
Acme 14 Feb 06 - 10:35 AM
Acme 14 Feb 06 - 12:51 PM
Amos 14 Feb 06 - 01:40 PM
frogprince 14 Feb 06 - 03:52 PM
Acme 15 Feb 06 - 01:32 PM
Amos 16 Feb 06 - 10:05 AM
Acme 16 Feb 06 - 10:31 AM
Amos 17 Feb 06 - 12:42 PM
Acme 26 Feb 06 - 01:18 AM
Acme 02 Mar 06 - 08:11 PM
Acme 08 Mar 06 - 09:54 PM
Amos 08 Mar 06 - 10:12 PM
Cod Fiddler 09 Mar 06 - 08:46 AM
Amos 10 Mar 06 - 03:31 PM
Wesley S 13 Mar 06 - 10:34 AM
Acme 13 Mar 06 - 10:43 AM
Charley Noble 13 Mar 06 - 03:04 PM
Amos 13 Mar 06 - 10:33 PM
Acme 18 Mar 06 - 01:42 AM
Acme 23 Mar 06 - 12:08 PM
Bert 23 Mar 06 - 12:19 PM
Amos 23 Mar 06 - 02:36 PM
Acme 23 Mar 06 - 02:44 PM
Charley Noble 23 Mar 06 - 05:03 PM
Acme 23 Mar 06 - 10:04 PM
Acme 23 Mar 06 - 10:13 PM
Acme 25 Mar 06 - 10:27 AM
Acme 28 Mar 06 - 04:05 PM
Acme 05 Apr 06 - 10:11 PM
Acme 14 Apr 06 - 10:10 AM
Acme 01 May 06 - 05:10 PM
The Fooles Troupe 02 May 06 - 09:29 AM
Acme 05 Jun 06 - 10:46 AM
Amos 06 Jun 06 - 07:26 PM
Acme 11 Jun 06 - 04:51 PM
The Fooles Troupe 11 Jun 06 - 07:24 PM
Acme 16 Jun 06 - 12:37 AM
Acme 16 Jun 06 - 03:33 PM
Acme 18 Jun 06 - 11:55 AM
GUEST 19 Jun 06 - 07:41 AM
Acme 25 Jun 06 - 01:49 PM
Acme 01 Jul 06 - 01:33 PM
Acme 04 Jul 06 - 12:24 PM
Acme 13 Jul 06 - 03:32 PM
Acme 14 Jul 06 - 11:17 AM
Acme 27 Jul 06 - 03:51 PM
Amos 03 Aug 06 - 10:55 AM
Acme 08 Aug 06 - 01:18 AM
Acme 09 Aug 06 - 11:11 AM
Acme 14 Aug 06 - 05:07 PM
Acme 14 Aug 06 - 10:49 PM
The Fooles Troupe 15 Aug 06 - 11:05 PM
Acme 16 Aug 06 - 09:26 PM
Acme 19 Aug 06 - 01:32 AM
Acme 02 Sep 06 - 01:11 PM
Acme 16 Sep 06 - 04:32 PM
Acme 16 Sep 06 - 04:33 PM
Amos 05 Oct 06 - 01:19 PM
Acme 05 Oct 06 - 01:48 PM
Amos 05 Oct 06 - 03:30 PM
Acme 06 Oct 06 - 01:41 AM
Emma B 06 Oct 06 - 06:58 AM
Acme 06 Oct 06 - 06:20 PM
Acme 13 Oct 06 - 06:18 PM
The Fooles Troupe 14 Oct 06 - 09:29 AM
Amos 15 Oct 06 - 09:31 PM
Amos 17 Oct 06 - 03:43 PM
Amos 18 Oct 06 - 10:40 AM
Acme 22 Oct 06 - 01:04 AM
The Fooles Troupe 22 Oct 06 - 05:06 AM
Acme 23 Oct 06 - 05:45 PM
The Fooles Troupe 23 Oct 06 - 07:55 PM
Amos 23 Oct 06 - 08:28 PM
JohnInKansas 24 Oct 06 - 08:42 AM
Acme 24 Oct 06 - 10:48 AM
Acme 30 Oct 06 - 12:12 AM
Acme 30 Oct 06 - 02:57 PM
Amos 30 Oct 06 - 03:12 PM
JohnInKansas 02 Nov 06 - 11:48 PM
Acme 03 Nov 06 - 10:38 AM
Acme 03 Nov 06 - 10:48 AM
Acme 03 Nov 06 - 10:49 AM
Acme 10 Nov 06 - 12:00 AM
Acme 10 Nov 06 - 12:02 AM
The Fooles Troupe 10 Nov 06 - 09:52 PM
Acme 10 Nov 06 - 10:20 PM
Acme 13 Nov 06 - 01:33 AM
JohnInKansas 13 Nov 06 - 05:09 AM
Acme 13 Nov 06 - 01:04 PM
JohnInKansas 16 Nov 06 - 09:18 PM
Acme 16 Nov 06 - 11:59 PM
JohnInKansas 17 Nov 06 - 01:38 AM
Acme 17 Nov 06 - 10:02 AM
JohnInKansas 17 Nov 06 - 01:36 PM
GUEST,danspin 17 Nov 06 - 05:44 PM
Acme 17 Nov 06 - 07:40 PM
The Fooles Troupe 18 Nov 06 - 07:29 PM
Amos 18 Nov 06 - 07:48 PM
Acme 18 Nov 06 - 09:24 PM
JohnInKansas 20 Nov 06 - 02:04 AM
Acme 20 Nov 06 - 09:15 AM
JohnInKansas 24 Nov 06 - 04:11 AM
Acme 24 Nov 06 - 12:12 PM
JohnInKansas 24 Nov 06 - 01:31 PM
Acme 24 Nov 06 - 01:59 PM
JohnInKansas 25 Nov 06 - 03:06 AM
Acme 26 Nov 06 - 01:14 AM
autolycus 26 Nov 06 - 04:10 AM
Acme 26 Nov 06 - 12:10 PM
Acme 27 Nov 06 - 06:13 PM
Donuel 27 Nov 06 - 06:46 PM
Acme 28 Nov 06 - 10:10 AM
Amos 28 Nov 06 - 11:06 AM
Amos 28 Nov 06 - 05:31 PM
Acme 28 Nov 06 - 11:47 PM
JohnInKansas 29 Nov 06 - 07:44 AM
JohnInKansas 29 Nov 06 - 08:24 AM
JohnInKansas 29 Nov 06 - 08:39 AM
Amos 29 Nov 06 - 02:00 PM
JohnInKansas 03 Dec 06 - 02:30 PM
JohnInKansas 05 Dec 06 - 10:52 PM
JohnInKansas 05 Dec 06 - 10:57 PM
Acme 08 Dec 06 - 12:26 PM
Don Firth 08 Dec 06 - 05:58 PM
JohnInKansas 11 Dec 06 - 09:41 AM
Acme 11 Dec 06 - 09:55 AM
Acme 12 Dec 06 - 12:08 AM
JohnInKansas 12 Dec 06 - 05:01 AM
JohnInKansas 12 Dec 06 - 05:27 AM
Acme 12 Dec 06 - 09:39 AM
Acme 12 Dec 06 - 10:41 PM
Acme 13 Dec 06 - 03:27 PM
Amos 14 Dec 06 - 03:22 PM
Acme 14 Dec 06 - 08:04 PM
Amos 14 Dec 06 - 08:11 PM
Amos 15 Dec 06 - 12:39 AM
JohnInKansas 15 Dec 06 - 09:13 AM
Acme 20 Dec 06 - 10:27 AM
Amos 21 Dec 06 - 02:26 PM
Acme 21 Dec 06 - 05:39 PM
JohnInKansas 21 Dec 06 - 11:46 PM
JohnInKansas 22 Dec 06 - 02:06 AM
wysiwyg 22 Dec 06 - 11:25 AM
Charley Noble 24 Dec 06 - 10:25 AM
Acme 24 Dec 06 - 12:22 PM
Charley Noble 24 Dec 06 - 01:25 PM
Acme 25 Dec 06 - 02:45 AM
JohnInKansas 29 Dec 06 - 02:09 PM
Acme 29 Dec 06 - 03:54 PM
wysiwyg 30 Dec 06 - 03:16 PM
GUEST,heric 30 Dec 06 - 03:31 PM
JohnInKansas 30 Dec 06 - 04:56 PM
Acme 30 Dec 06 - 06:40 PM
GUEST,heric 30 Dec 06 - 06:47 PM
Amos 30 Dec 06 - 07:29 PM
JohnInKansas 30 Dec 06 - 11:15 PM
Acme 30 Dec 06 - 11:49 PM
JohnInKansas 01 Jan 07 - 12:45 AM
Amos 01 Jan 07 - 10:24 AM
Acme 01 Jan 07 - 12:38 PM
JohnInKansas 01 Jan 07 - 11:12 PM
Acme 02 Jan 07 - 01:45 AM
JohnInKansas 03 Jan 07 - 06:11 AM
JohnInKansas 03 Jan 07 - 06:21 AM
Amos 03 Jan 07 - 11:59 AM
Amos 03 Jan 07 - 12:07 PM
Acme 03 Jan 07 - 01:28 PM
Amos 03 Jan 07 - 01:34 PM
Acme 03 Jan 07 - 06:35 PM
Adrianel 03 Jan 07 - 10:15 PM
Amos 03 Jan 07 - 10:33 PM
JohnInKansas 05 Jan 07 - 11:51 PM
JohnInKansas 06 Jan 07 - 12:09 AM
Acme 06 Jan 07 - 12:19 AM
Acme 06 Jan 07 - 12:23 AM
JohnInKansas 06 Jan 07 - 12:41 AM
JohnInKansas 06 Jan 07 - 12:53 AM
JohnInKansas 06 Jan 07 - 12:58 AM
JohnInKansas 07 Jan 07 - 01:47 AM
Acme 07 Jan 07 - 02:00 AM
freda underhill 07 Jan 07 - 02:13 AM
Amos 07 Jan 07 - 11:44 AM
Acme 07 Jan 07 - 01:48 PM
Wesley S 10 Jan 07 - 10:34 AM
JohnInKansas 10 Jan 07 - 08:31 PM
Acme 10 Jan 07 - 11:15 PM
JohnInKansas 11 Jan 07 - 12:26 AM
JohnInKansas 11 Jan 07 - 12:32 AM
GUEST,saulgoldie 11 Jan 07 - 10:55 AM
JohnInKansas 11 Jan 07 - 09:22 PM
Acme 12 Jan 07 - 12:37 AM
JohnInKansas 12 Jan 07 - 01:18 AM
Acme 12 Jan 07 - 02:15 PM
JohnInKansas 12 Jan 07 - 02:24 PM
Acme 12 Jan 07 - 02:32 PM
JohnInKansas 12 Jan 07 - 06:15 PM
JohnInKansas 13 Jan 07 - 04:02 AM
Charley Noble 13 Jan 07 - 09:39 PM
JohnInKansas 14 Jan 07 - 08:29 PM
Acme 14 Jan 07 - 10:16 PM
JohnInKansas 16 Jan 07 - 06:06 AM
JohnInKansas 16 Jan 07 - 07:59 AM
Amos 16 Jan 07 - 09:33 AM
Acme 16 Jan 07 - 10:11 AM
JennyO 16 Jan 07 - 11:07 AM
Acme 16 Jan 07 - 11:41 AM
Acme 17 Jan 07 - 01:18 PM
Acme 17 Jan 07 - 01:45 PM
Acme 17 Jan 07 - 11:37 PM
Acme 18 Jan 07 - 12:27 AM
Amos 18 Jan 07 - 12:56 AM
Metchosin 18 Jan 07 - 10:09 AM
Thomas the Rhymer 18 Jan 07 - 10:10 AM
Amos 18 Jan 07 - 01:27 PM
Acme 18 Jan 07 - 02:36 PM
JohnInKansas 20 Jan 07 - 04:06 AM
JohnInKansas 20 Jan 07 - 06:43 AM
The Fooles Troupe 20 Jan 07 - 08:08 AM
JohnInKansas 20 Jan 07 - 03:22 PM
Acme 21 Jan 07 - 01:11 AM
JohnInKansas 23 Jan 07 - 12:46 AM
JohnInKansas 23 Jan 07 - 04:39 AM
Acme 23 Jan 07 - 10:01 AM
Acme 23 Jan 07 - 10:50 AM
JohnInKansas 23 Jan 07 - 07:35 PM
Acme 23 Jan 07 - 09:17 PM
JohnInKansas 23 Jan 07 - 10:32 PM
JohnInKansas 23 Jan 07 - 10:33 PM
Acme 24 Jan 07 - 12:13 AM
JohnInKansas 24 Jan 07 - 12:42 AM
Acme 24 Jan 07 - 10:03 AM
Acme 24 Jan 07 - 12:19 PM
Amos 25 Jan 07 - 11:19 AM
Acme 26 Jan 07 - 12:02 AM
JohnInKansas 27 Jan 07 - 01:14 PM
JohnInKansas 27 Jan 07 - 06:23 PM
Amos 27 Jan 07 - 07:08 PM
JohnInKansas 27 Jan 07 - 08:56 PM
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Subject: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
From: Acme
Date: 12 Apr 04 - 03:47 PM

Some articles don't need an entire thread of their own, so I started this as one as a place to collect small pieces like this one. This might be considered the virtual version of clipping an article and leaving it for someone to read, just to think about.

The following is a short article that needs some thought. It isn't the most important piece in the paper, but it suggests a lot of "what if" possibilities that are pretty scary in the context given. I looked at several possible older threads as a place to put this, but they were closed, or it just plain didn't fit.

This may or may not generate comments, but mostly this is one of those things that needs to be thought about. How on earth did it happen, was it malicious, accidental? and look at all of the possible outcomes.


    Saturday, April 10, 2004 · Last updated 8:24 p.m. PT

    Children on Easter egg hunt find guns


    FLINT, Mich. -- A group of children hunting for Easter eggs Saturday during a church event found two loaded handguns outside an elementary school.

    Flint police said officers were called to the scene and also recovered a BB gun and a broken toy gun on the grounds of Gundry Elementary School. No one was injured, Sgt. Michael Coote said.

    One of the guns discharged when it was dropped, according to a police report, but it was unclear who dropped it.

    The pastor of Ruth Street Baptist Church told WJRT-TV that one of the handguns had a bullet in the chamber, and the other handgun's clip had bullets in it.

    "It's terrible that something like this has happened," Pastor Namon Marshall told the station.

    Coote said he did not know how long the guns had been in the park.

    Police opened an investigation after confiscating the weapons.

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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
From: Little Hawk
Date: 12 Apr 04 - 03:54 PM

Well, perhaps we should engage in nation-wide Easter Egg Hunts (by the adult population). Could turn up all kinds of significant results...perhaps even hidden WMD's.

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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
From: Rapparee
Date: 12 Apr 04 - 04:12 PM

Someone dropped a stolen handgun in the bookdrop of the public library in American Falls, ID recently. We, on the other hand, had a bottle of Bud Light in ours.

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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
From: Amos
Date: 12 Apr 04 - 04:15 PM

Hands up, anyone who has had a newspaper story about something they were fully involved with, which actually had the facts straight?

(Sorry for the thread creep -- although it suits the title!)

We now return to your regularly scheduled thread...


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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
From: Chief Chaos
Date: 12 Apr 04 - 04:40 PM

Okay first I'm going to let the military side of me rant:

"It's not a clip! Its a magazine! For goodness sake if you're going to do a story about hand guns lets get the terminology right!"

Okay, now that the anal retentive side of me has said what it had to say,

Sounds like another Columbine event was in the offing. I hope they weren't touched before the police got there so that maybe some fingerprints can be found.

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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
From: Acme
Date: 12 Apr 04 - 04:51 PM

Not only was one touched, it was dropped and it discharged!


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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
From: Ebbie
Date: 12 Apr 04 - 10:13 PM

An Easter Egg Hunt account was in my local paper several years back. Early Saturday morning a dozen volunteers hid a couple ohundred brightly colored eggs on a grassy sward (love saying that) on the island across the way. They then went home to clean up, coming back that afternoon to host the hunt. Families with their excited youngsters in tow showed up for the grand event. There were cameras, reporters showed up; it was the first time anyone had thought of using the meadow with its low bushes. It was a beautiful day.

I think fewer than a half dozen eggs were found, but there were LOTS of bright bits of shell all over the place. Along with stuffed-full ravens sitting around in the trees.

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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
From: Acme
Date: 15 Apr 04 - 01:53 PM

Civil liberties gone amuck? Or is California just more whacko that usual?

Thursday, April 15, 2004

    Serial child molester is set free


    In the spring of 1996, Blue Kartak was a baby-faced 16-year-old runaway in Seattle when he met a friendly man at a coffeehouse who promised to take him to Disneyland.
    The man turned out to be a serial child molester who drugged and raped Kartak in a motel room in California.

    His attacker, Edward Harvey Stokes, was convicted and given a life sentence for the crime. But last week, Stokes -- who's said he has attacked more than 200 victims -- walked out of a California jail as a free man and moved back to Washington state. The reason: A state appeals court ruled he never had a chance to confront his accuser -- Kartak -- who committed suicide before Stokes' trial.

the rest of this story is online

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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
From: Amos
Date: 15 Apr 04 - 02:01 PM

Oh, dear gawd. Shoulda fed him to the sharks while they had the he could get a sense of how it felt.


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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
From: Chief Chaos
Date: 15 Apr 04 - 02:02 PM


I understand that you have the right to confront your accuser but I would have thought that by now there would be precedent that in the case of a victim comiting suicide (more than likely because of the trauma he suffered) that the state would be considered the accuser.

Of course in some third world nations not only would the suspect be killed without a trial (and probably a rather ingeniously painful death at that) so would the accuser for being tainted.

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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
From: Acme
Date: 15 Apr 04 - 04:27 PM

Yeah--I didn't post this because there is an easy answer, but rather because it is an article that is very troubling, and where a really vile human being is able to take advantage of "the system."

The trouble we as a society regularly encounter is that often after something like this, a bereaved family member with hyper-emotional ammo pushes through a law that is thinly-veiled retribution. Aimed at this one particular individual and put in place to deal with "anyone else who might somehow fit some part of that scenario," the law of unintended consequences comes into play. It means that because these laws are poorly crafted and tie the hands of judges regarding things like "three strikes," a lot of people who have minor infractions end up with life sentences without parole. So the judges who made this idiotic decision have done an injustice to their colleagues in the field, to say nothing of the victims of this worm they released.


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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Apr 04 - 06:23 PM

The accuser wasn't the kid, but Society as a whole -- "California v. xxxxx" or "US v. Bush" or whatever.

Then again, California...Society..... Ya gotta wonder sometimes. I just hope that in a more enlightened state than California he can get precisely what's coming to him. Heh heh heh.

(I'm considered liberal by some and conservative by others, but I'm plumb facist about this sort of thing.)

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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
From: SueB
Date: 16 Apr 04 - 01:06 AM

Didya hear the one about the Air Marshall who left his gun in the airplane lavatory? Speaking of reading things in the newspaper...

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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
From: LadyJean
Date: 16 Apr 04 - 01:10 AM

I'm not really good at making links, but if you go to, you can read my welcome to the NRA, who are having their convention here this weekend. They made it their cover story, which is nice, because I don't think they'll pay me for it.

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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
From: freda underhill
Date: 16 Apr 04 - 01:20 AM

very clever, ladyJean, well said. How can they ever respond to that one?


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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
From: LadyJean
Date: 16 Apr 04 - 01:39 AM


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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
From: Amos
Date: 16 Apr 04 - 08:24 AM

Wow -- you wrote an article on the NRA which was really good! Nice job.


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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
From: Acme
Date: 16 Apr 04 - 10:45 AM

Good job on the link and the essay!

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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
From: Acme
Date: 18 Apr 04 - 04:04 PM

Here's an interesting one.

Considering the adjustments to this court were made during the Regan years, I'd sure like to know a lot more about it. Look at the kind of cases they hear. What can we learn about the outcomes?

The whole article is here:

    Judges on little-known court paid for life


    WASHINGTON -- Judges on a little-known federal court that decides claims against the government are appointed for 15 years, but collect their full six-figure salaries for a lifetime for a workload that averages fewer than two trials a year.

    U.S. Court of Federal Claims jurists turn their fixed terms into lifetime jobs by remaining as senior judges. Currently, the federal claims court has 16 active judges and 13 in senior status.

    A few of the senior judges handle a full workload. Some handle at least 25 percent of their former caseload. Others have an empty docket. All are paid $158,100 a year, the same as full-time federal judges.

    The congressionally approved arrangement for the claims judges - described as a "charmed existence" by one legal expert - is gaining scrutiny. Two Democratic senators have prepared a bill to abolish the court, with its budget of $14.4 million.

    "It's a waste of money," Sen. Byron Dorgan, D-N.D. Added Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore.: "The taxpayers are spending top dollar for full-time judges that don't even perform part-time work."

    A Court of Federal Claims judge had an average workload [of] 45 [cases] from 1997 through 2001 and conducted fewer than two trials each in 2002, according to records compiled by the senators. In contrast, District Court judges averaged 478 cases and completed an average 19 trials a year, according to the latest statistics.

    Court of Federal Claims Chief Judge Edward Damich said in an interview that the caseload numbers are meaningless because his judges must resolve "complex, high stakes litigation" that usually is settled without a trial.

    The claims court has special expertise in disputes between contractors and the government, cases brought by taxpayers seeking refunds and plaintiffs complaining the government illegally seized their property. It has sole jurisdiction in lawsuits filed by unsuccessful bidders seeking government contracts.

    Damich said Congress reorganized the court more than 20 years ago with the intention of allowing its judges to serve for life despite their 15-year terms. [This would be from the Regan administration]

    "It was because of the fear that if we were to lose salary and benefits completely, that might influence judges in their decisions," he said. "They might be influenced in a pro-government way to get reappointed."


    When the claims judges finish their term and take senior status, the chief judge must decide whether to recall them to service and have them work for their salaries.

    If they are recalled, the judges are required to handle 25 percent of an active judge's caseload to qualify for any pay increases.

    Damich, who said he negotiates with each senior judge, said four of the 13 do no work while one senior judge handles only court administrative duties. The other senior judges have varying caseloads

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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
From: Acme
Date: 18 Apr 04 - 04:05 PM

oops. Reagan years (not to be confused with his chief of staff Regan).

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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
From: Acme
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 02:26 PM

Well, I didn't read this one in an online newspaper, this information came via a link in a discussion group I belong to.

    My name is Elena. I run this website and I don't have anything to sell. What I do have is my motorbike and the absolute freedom to ride it wherever curiosity and the speed demon take me.

    This page is maintained by the author, but when internet traffic is heavy it may be down occasionally.


    I have ridden all my life and over the years I have owned several different motorbikes. I ended my search for a perfect bike with a big kawasaki ninja, that boasts a mature 147 horse power, some serious bark, is fast as a bullet and comfortable for a long trips. here is more about my motorcycle

    I travel a lot and one of my favorite destinations leads North from Kiev, towards so called Chernobyl "dead zone", which is 130kms from my home. Why my favorite? Because one can take long rides there on empty roads.

    The people there all left and nature is blooming. There are beautiful woods and lakes.

    In places where roads have not been travelled by trucks or army vehicles, they are in the same condition they were 20 years ago - except for an occasional blade of grass that discovered a crack to spring through. Time does not ruin roads, so they may stay this way until they can be opened to normal traffic again........ a few centuries from now


    To begin our journey, we must learn a little something about radiation. It is really very simple, and the device we use for measuring radiation levels is called a geiger counter . If you flick it on in Kiev, it will measure about 12-16 microroentgen per hour. In a typical city of Russia and America, it will read 10-12 microroentgen per hour. In the center of many European cities are 20 microR per hour, the radioactivity of the stone.

    1,000 microroentgens equal one milliroentgen and 1,000 milliroentgens equal 1 roentgen. So one roentgen is 100,000 times the average radiation of a typical city. A dose of 500 roentgens within 5 hours is fatal to humans. Interestingly, it takes about 2 1/2 times that dosage to kill a chicken and over 100 times that to kill a cockroach.

    This sort of radiation level can not be found in Chernobyl now. In the first days after explosion, some places around the reactor were emitting 3,000-30,000 roentgens per hour. The firemen who were sent to put out the reactor fire were fried on the spot by gamma radiation. The remains of the reactor were entombed within an enormous steel and concrete sarcophagus, so it is now relatively safe to travel to the area - as long as we do not step off of the roadway.......

    The map above shows the radiation levels in different parts of the dead zone. The map will soon be replaced with a more comprehensive one that identifies more features.

    It shows various levels of radiation on asphalt - usually on the middle of road - because at edge of the road it is twice as high. If you step 1 meter off the road it is 4 or 5 times higher. Radiation sits on the soil, on the grass, in apples and mushrooms. It is not retained by asphalt, which makes rides through this area possible.

    I have never had problems with the dosimeter guys, who man the checkpoints. They are experts, and if they find radiation on you vehicle, they give it a chemical shower. I don't count those couple of times when "experts" tried to invent an excuse to give me a shower, because those had a lot more to do with physical biology than biological physics

This is a really interesting site. A view of a pretty scary place by a brave young woman. Many pages, lots of large photos.


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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
From: Amos
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 02:33 PM

It was posted on another thread here somewhere a few weeks ago, It is a real doozy of a phototour. Ya gotta wonder what Daddy's connections are to support her in such a free-wheeling lifestyle!


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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
From: Acme
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 03:01 PM

I am not surprised it already appeared at Mudcat--we're a cutting edge group! I didn't think to do a search on the term "Chernobyl."


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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
From: Mudlark
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 05:58 PM

Speaking of Chernobyl, I saw on Link TV the other night a fascinating documentary about a small group of villagers on Chernobyl's doorstep who refused to move. They are mostly old people now, living in small cabins around a big spring, from which they draw water daily. The voice-over moderator was the one youngish person left, a son who stayed to help his aging parents. They plant and eat their potatoes and turnips, collect chanterelles from the forest... All the old people (who down vodka by the waterglass) look like old people everywhere in Eastern Europe, tough people used to, and bowed by, a harsh climate, old men in caps, old women in babushkas. It showed these old guys felling trees in the forest, dragging them to the spring, then hand-hewing logs to box in a spring-fed laundry washing area for the women...incredibly hard work. No one had two heads or complained of health issues, which sort of surprised me.

I really like LinkTV, where this sort of programming is common. (And sorry for the thread creep...should be under "Things I saw on TV"....)

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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
From: Acme
Date: 23 Apr 04 - 12:19 AM

Mudlark, your contribution is great! I started this thread because there are stories out there that are just too interesting to read and set aside, yet I don't want to start a new thread for each. I like to think about them a while, and see what others think on the subjects. Your remarks are in line with what the woman on the Chernobyl thread spoke about-- those folks who were unwilling to leave are remarkable.

Critical thinking is something that once you learn how you can't turn it off. So many stories present you with what the writer thinks and no more. But there are occasionally stories out there written in such a way as to let the gaps be visible, and the warts show. They give you room to draw your own conclusions, or see the faulty arguments. Those are the ones that attract my attention. I'm glad they jump out at you also.


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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
From: Acme
Date: 25 Apr 04 - 01:12 PM

Here's an interesting story. And I love the "bottom line"--Einstein encouraged this woman to become a librarian. Yes!

From the Seattle P.I.
    Saturday, April 24, 2004

    Diary details Einstein's last years

    PRINCETON, N.J. -- In the last years of Albert Einstein's life, he amused himself by telling jokes to his parrot, and avoided visitors by feigning illness, according to a newly discovered diary written by the woman known around Princeton as his last girlfriend.

    While Einstein also talked about the travails of his continuing work in physics, most of Johanna Fantova's diary recalls his views on world politics and his personal life.

    The writings are "an unvarnished portrait of Einstein struggling bravely with the manifold inconveniences of sickness and old age," Freeman Dyson, a mathematician at the Institute for Advanced Study in Princeton, told The New York Times in Saturday's editions.

    The 62-page diary, written in German, was discovered in February in Fantova's personnel files at Princeton University's Firestone Library, where she had worked as a curator. The manuscript is the subject of an article to be published next month in The Princeton University Library Journal.

    According to the article, the new manuscript is the only one kept by someone close to Einstein in the final years of his life.

    "There is surprisingly little about physics in the diary," Donald Skemer, Firestone Library's curator of manuscripts, told The Times of Trenton.

    Fantova wrote that she recorded her time with the renowned physicist to "cast some additional light on our understanding of Einstein, not on the great man who became a legend in his lifetime, not on Einstein the renowned scientist, but on Einstein the humanitarian."

    Fantova was 22 years younger than Einstein. Although the two spent considerable time together starting in the 1940s, her journal only records their relationship from October 1953 until his death in April 1955 at age 76. She died in 1981 at age 80.

    Princeton already had a collection of the poems, letters and photos Einstein sent to Fantova, who sold them after his death to Gillett G. Griffin, a retired curator at Princeton's Art Museum. He gave those documents to the library.

    Griffin, invited many times to Einstein's home for dinner, said Fantova was a fixture there.

    "Reading what she left gives me an immediate connection with my own experience and gives everyone the immediacy of knowing Einstein himself," Griffin said.

    The diary recounts Einstein speaking about the politics of the day and portrays him as critical of speeches of Adlai Stevenson, the nuclear arms race and the anti-communist attack on the scientist J. Robert Oppenheimer by Sen. Joseph McCarthy.

    "This political persecution of his associate was a source of bitter disillusionment," Fantova wrote.

    Besides his politics, Fantova wrote of Einstein's popularity and how he tried to write back to strangers, some of whom tried to convert him to Christianity. He said, "All the maniacs in the world write to me," she wrote.

    The diary also recounts how, on his 75th birthday, Einstein received a parrot as gift. After deciding the bird was depressed, Einstein tried alter its mood by telling bad jokes.

    At times, Einstein would pretend to be sick in bed so he would not have to pose with visitors who wanted photographs. Einstein still enjoyed himself even when real illness did take hold.

    "Einstein's health began to fail, but he continued to indulge in what remained his favorite of all pastimes, sailing. Seldom did I see him so gay and in so light a mood as in this strangely primitive little boat," Fantova wrote.

    Einstein also wrote Fantova poems, some of which are in the diary.

    Einstein, with his second wife Elsa, had arrived in Princeton in 1933 at the newly formed Institute for Advanced Study. Elsa died three years later.

    Fantova first met Einstein in 1929 in Berlin. She arrived in the United States alone in 1939 and, at Einstein's urging, attended library school at the University of North Carolina.

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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
From: Mudlark
Date: 25 Apr 04 - 03:50 PM

A great piece, thanks SRS. And since TV input is OK, did anybody else see the C-Span weekend Book Channel's coverage of the UCLA Book Fair, particularly, the forum on myths in American culture. Really got me to thinking. All cultures have myths, but it seems ours are fueled by corporations, promoting unncessary consumerism (as addressed by James Campos, The Fat Myth), and those that build and maintain political clout (the Myth of Fear).

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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
From: Acme
Date: 25 Apr 04 - 05:11 PM

I always enjoy C-SPANs book talk programs when I remember to turn them on. Lately I haven't exactly been getting my money's worth out of the Dish-TV I had installed a few months ago. But these kinds of programs are what I was looking for (okay, okay, I also wanted some of the old movies and the great mystery programs--tonight I've set it up to record Boy on a Dolphin).

Sorry about the small print above--I was trying to compress it some. I think maybe I need to look into formatting the space between paragraphs (or find writers who can do better than treat every sentence as if it is a paragraph!)


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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
From: Acme
Date: 29 Apr 04 - 12:08 AM

This one certainly describes me. I have paper clutter on my kitchen counter, my dining room table AND my office. Sheesh! Full story

    Published on HeraldNet on Thursday, April 22, 2004

    From chaos to order, with a little help

    Susan Davies is an organization woman, one of those professional people who know how to find a place for everything and put it there.

    By Christina Harper , Herald Writer

    Whether it's the magazines stacked on shelves, the piles of mail on the kitchen counter or the drawers overflowing with bits and pieces, the urge to get organized arrives with spring. But for some people the overwhelming clutter and mess is too much for them to handle alone. "Things get disorganized when there is a big change" such as a move, said Susan Davies, a professional organizer based in Everett.

    People don't go through their stuff before moving. They bring it with them to their new home intending to go through it there, she said. Then it just sits there. Davies says people are often more organized than they think they are. It's about being able to find what you need when you need it, even if there is a mess. "If you know where you favorite pen is in the holder, then you're organized," she said.

    The problem might be that they try to put together a system, but it's the wrong system. "They try to organize but it's that factor of going from A to C right now," Davies said. People get hung up on B. That's the sorting, filing, going through things one item at a time and having to decide what to do with it. This is where they most likely give up on the project. "You have to make a decision about everything," Davies said.

    She advises clients to consolidate. She says take things out of containers and go through them. Put the items to one side and the container to another. Group items in a way that works best for you. Once you've thrown away what you don't need, make a decision about what fits best in what containers. It's a good idea to group your items, then to buy containers. Often, people buy neat-o boxes and bags that are too dinky and end up not being used.

    Davies says that generally home offices are the most difficult spaces to work with because there are lots of different elements such as filing, bill paying and mail. She has clients ask themselves questions about their habits. Are you going to open the mail standing over the recycle or trash can? Do you take the mail immediately to the kitchen counter? Make a system that suits you and you can stick with. Place things in a space according to your tendencies. "It's hard to break habits so work with them," Davies said.


    The desk was the first area of concern, especially since no one could find the computer keyboard. . . . [snip]

    Davies describes a cluttered or messy space as a funnel. Everything come into it and gets stuck. She makes suggestions based on the client's needs, such as what supplies buy or filing system to set up. "I would say that the file system is the heart of the office," Davies said. Files are easier to see on hanging file folder tags. Forget putting manila folders inside them. Too many tags get messy. "Make it easy on yourself. Label everything," Davies said. Labeling containers or shelves makes it easy for everyone in the family to see and use.

    Going through items to throw away or sell is an emotional experience for some people. They associate the thing with a memory. Perhaps Granny gave you that lime green doily that you hang onto because you wouldn't want to hurt her feelings. Get rid of it, Davies said. "The spirit of the memory will live on." Ask yourself when was the last time you used the item? Do you love it?

    Davies says that you have to be a little selfish when it comes to odd or awful gifts and trinkets. Decide what you want your life to be. If you want to simplify, get rid of it. "Surround yourself with sacred things you love," Davies said. "It's all about doing what's best for you."

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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
From: Acme
Date: 30 Apr 04 - 11:17 AM

That Chernobyl link has changed. Now you can find it at

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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
From: Acme
Date: 10 May 04 - 09:32 PM

Here's an interesting one. The woman can't write in anything but one-sentence "paragraphs," so I've lumped it together to save space. See the rest at the web site:

Cabbie Goes Extra Miles from the Everett Herald.

    Cabbie goes extra miles
    Driver took customers from Everett to Milwaukee

    By Jennifer Warnick
    Herald Writer

    Everett cab driver Mark Forbes, an ex-military, ex-cop, ex-plumbing parts salesman, likes to say there's an adventure every day in the taxi business. What began in the wee hours of Saturday, April 10, was more. It was a big yellow odyssey. It had been a busy Friday night, with all the usual runs to Seattle nightclubs, local bars, casinos and grocery stores. Near the end of his 12-hour shift, a Yellow Cab dispatcher radioed Forbes, 62, to make a pickup at the Days Inn on Evergreen Way. He pulled into the motel parking lot and saw two men emerge from a room. He looked at his watch --5:30 a.m. The men had no luggage, so he was sure he could get them to their destination before his shift ended. To the Sikh temple near Seattle, said the taller of the two men. (Sikhism is a monotheistic religion, rejecting Hinduism's caste system, founded in 15th-century India by Guru Nanak.) The cabbie started the meter, shutting off the 1991 Chevrolet Caprice Classic's roof vacancy light. Forbes hadn't the faintest idea it would take more than nine days and 2,300 miles to get back home.

    Change of plans

    Forbes has the voice of a country singer -- rich with a hint of twang. His laugh comes easy, and often. A former Colorado police officer who has also played Santa Claus, his demeanor is just that: a street-smart but jolly old elf. In his cab, Forbes is as smooth as a tour guide, with the small-talk skills bartenders and their tip jars know best. As they rode down the freeway that Saturday morning, the tall man said the two were originally from Punjab, India, and that his friend speaks little English. . .

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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
From: Amos
Date: 10 May 04 - 09:44 PM

Wow!! What a ride! :P>)


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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
From: Acme
Date: 12 May 04 - 04:31 PM

Ada's ready with a song
Her music has made all the difference in countless lives

EVERETT - Ada Haug is Everett's Julie Andrews. Her life is just like the movies - no matter where she is, no one ever seems surprised when she breaks into song. There was the time at a foot care clinic when Haug, 87, ran into an old friend and the two started singing over pedicures. Soon, others joined in, and the whole place was full of songbird seniors with soaking feet.

Then there was the time Haug led a tin-can drive to earn money for a new wheelchair van for seniors. She rallied the community, the seniors at a Bethany Northwest Home got their van and Haug wrote a song about the whole experience.

Then there was the time last month at an Everett City Council meeting when Mayor Ray Stephanson proclaimed April 30 Ada Haug Day in the city to honor her for 40 years of community service. After saying a little something at the meeting, Haug stepped into the marble foyer, and before long was singing a Norwegian wedding song.

The rest is here.


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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
From: Acme
Date: 13 May 04 - 02:18 PM

Here's an interesting one. Dillinger paper stolen years ago turns up on a web auction:

    Indiana Seeks to Reclaim Dillinger Document
    May 13, 2004 11:14 AM EDT

    INDIANAPOLIS - A missing prison form signed by the notorious Depression-era bank robber John Dillinger showed up at an auction, bid at $16,000. Now state officials want it back.

    The document was pulled from a May 1 Internet auction after Robert Edwards Auctions of Watchung, N.J., received a phone call from state prison officials.

    Dillinger, declared public enemy No. 1 for a string of bank robberies across the Midwest, was shot and killed in 1934 by federal agents in front of Chicago's Biograph Theater.

    A decade earlier, he entered the Indiana Reformatory at Pendleton after a botched robbery and signed a typewritten personal information form that later disappeared from state files.

    The form says Dillinger attended Sunday School for 12 years, got an 8th grade education and left home at age 16. His occupation when the crime was committed is listed as "idle." Under associates, the form stated, "Bad."

    The document is valuable because only about a dozen documents signed by Dillinger are known to exist, said Robert Lifson, president of Robert Edwards Auctions.

    Robert Schagrin, the president of Gotta Have It! Collectibles of New York City, which owns the item, told The Indianapolis Star it will not be sold while he considers the state's claim. He said the 80-year-old document may be public domain.

All things considered, "[S]chagrin" is a pretty good name for the "owner" of this document!


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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
From: Mudlark
Date: 14 May 04 - 12:43 AM

SRS...loved the Ada Haug story! Gee, when I forget myself and burst into song while gassing up the truck, or strolling down the supermarket aisle everybody looks at me like I'm crazy. (Moi???)

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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
From: Cluin
Date: 14 May 04 - 12:50 AM

Next thing, Dillinger's pickled prodigious pecker will show up on E-Bay after disappearing from J. Edgar Hoover's desk drawer back in `68.

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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
From: Amos
Date: 14 May 04 - 07:17 AM


Forget yourself?? They should be so lucky!! Anyone says anything tell 'em there is no charge for those who mind their manners!!


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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
From: Mudlark
Date: 15 May 04 - 02:08 AM

Thanks for the vote of confidence, Amos!

This thread makes me wish I read more print media for ease of copying. I heard a fascinating discussion on NPR while driving around doing chores yesterday about studies done on height through the ages. Seems like there is a definite correlation between height and physical well being (enough to eat, adequate health care, reasonable quality of life). Also seems that average US height has been losing out to Europeans for some time now. We peaked after WWII, now the average height in Holland, for instance, is substantially higher than that of the US. We are 25th I think, among major populations in infant death.

These findings are quite at variance with the image of US as Empire.

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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
From: Acme
Date: 15 May 04 - 01:23 PM

Mudlark, if you know what program you were listening to, you can find a transcript or a recording of it online.

When my parents were alive they used to regularly mail me big manila envelopes stuffed with old magazines of local Washington State interest (The Mountaineer, for example) and lots of clippings. Various subjects, whatever they were interested in or they thought would interest me. When my father died I opened one file cabinet drawer and found the growing stack he had for me for the next mailing.

I make it a habit to print interesting stories or clip them from the paper and leave them on the dining room table for the kids to look at. Sometimes we read them out loud, if it is particularly good that way. Articles get clipped or printed because they illustrate somethine that is a concern that I want us to think about, and sometimes they discuss topics that are of interest to the kids (and I want them to know I was paying attention!)


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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
From: Acme
Date: 17 May 04 - 12:15 AM

Book Opened Orchid-growing To The World

May 15, 2004 07:16 AM EDT

From the Seattle Post-Intelligencer

Before there was an Orchid Thief, there was Rebecca T. Northen.

Northen, whose 1950 book "Home Orchid Growing" is still the bible for growers -- amateur and professional alike -- did for orchids what Julia Child did for French cooking, said one orchid lover. Her greenhouse still contained hundreds of orchids when she died April 30 at age 93 in Des Moines, where she lived with her daughter.

"She demystified this thing that was previously the purview of the rich doctors and the wealthy," said Bill Carley, who picked up Northen's book when he was a kid and got hooked. Now a member of the Northwest Orchid Society, he's still growing them 40 years later.

And so are millions of others around the country, inspired by the woman who made orchid growing accessible to anyone with a little sun and some patience. "She's the reason we have orchids in Trader Joe's," said Northen's daughter, Betty Lyons. "Truly, she was an orchid grower's orchid grower," said Andy Easton, vice president of Kerry's Bromeliads in Homestead, Fla., one of the largest growers in the world. Kerry's produces more than 4 million plants a year, he said, "but if there's any one book I still go to on a regular basis, that's Rebecca Northen's 'Home Orchid Growing.' "

Northen discovered orchids, the hothouse hotties of the flower world, in the coldest of places: Laramie, Wyo.

Born in Detroit in 1910, Rebecca Tyson had hoped to become a doctor like her father. She studied biology at Radcliff College and received her master's degree from Mount Holyoke in Massachusetts. Just after graduating, however, she heard about a summer botany camp in Wyoming, still considered the "Wild West" in those days.

She went for the adventure. Instead, love bloomed. She married her professor, Henry T. Northen, in 1937 and the two put down roots in Laramie, where they raised three children.

One day, the professor came home with a flask of tiny orchid seedlings, enough to start hundreds of plants. Northen fell under their spell immediately, and hard.

"There was something magical about them that captivated her," said her grandson Trent Northen of Arizona, who got his own start growing orchids from doing chores in his "Grandbecca's" greenhouse when she later lived in California.

Those first seedlings rapidly took over every surface in the house, including the bathtubs. Soon thereafter, the Northens built their first greenhouse. To support her proliferating hobby, and pay the heating bill, Northen sold Cattleyas, or corsage orchids, by the prom-load.

find the rest of the story here.

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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
From: Acme
Date: 17 May 04 - 02:09 PM

From the Everett Herald:

Women's project offers a comfortable setting to swim
By Katherine Schiffner, Herald Writer

EVERETT -- Nadaa Aliat glances up at the YMCA pool's glass entryway before easing into the chilly shallow end. A long white curtain covers the door and the window beside it. No one can peek inside. Time to swim. This is the only place Alait and most of the two dozen other women in the pool can swim laps, learn new strokes and soak in the hot tub. For religious and modesty reasons, they won't appear in swimsuits in front of men. This swim time, twice a month, is just for women and children.

"Because we are Muslim, we can't show the body to other people," Aliat said. "If this program were gone, we couldn't do anything." Aliat, 30, who moved to Everett from Iraq 10 years ago, wears a head scarf and long black cloak in public. She has come to the Sunday swims for a year now. "Before, we didn't know how to swim, but now we're swimming and enjoying it," Aliat said. "Last time, my daughter was able to float without anybody helping. The kids have learned so fast."

The women-only swim was started by Therese Quinn, leader of Snohomish County's Woman to Woman project, which aims to bring together women from different cultures. Woman to Woman, which also offers cooking classes, discussion groups, sewing circles and roller-skating nights, added the swim time at the suggestion of several Muslim high school girls. The informal gatherings, "give us the opportunity to learn from each other," Quinn said. "One of the women involved in the program had this notion that people from the Middle East were not like us," Quinn said. "After she got to know some of the women from the Middle East, and their children played together, she realized she was wrong."

The swim times are open to all women and young children. Sisters Gerri Johnson and Barb Heckathorn of Marysville say they feel more comfortable doing water aerobics there. "It gives us an opportunity to get out and get moving without showing our rolls to men," Johnson said with a smile.

Women-only swim

The Woman to Woman Project hosts women's swims 9:30-11:30 a.m. on the second and fourth Sundays of every month. Women, girls and young boys swim in privacy at the Everett Family YMCA, 2720 Rockefeller Ave. Suggested donation: $1.

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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
From: Acme
Date: 20 May 04 - 12:17 AM

There is a photo with this story.

Wednesday, May 19, 2004

Homeward, healed
By Victor Balta, Herald Writer

SEATTLE - The scene couldn't have been more different. Eight-year-old Tae-Wau Ryu was near a ticket counter at Seattle-Tacoma International Airport throwing a baseball in the air, dishing out smiles for pictures, joking and laughing. Seven months ago, he wouldn't speak. Lost, confused and tired from a long flight, he only shook his head no, regardless of the question. "The poor kid just sat on the floor, hugged his photo album and cried for about four days," said David Cash of Lynnwood, Tae-Wau's host father.

Tae-Wau was one of three South Korean boys brought to Snohomish County by Healing the Children, a nonprofit group. The boys suffer from microtia, a condition in which the ear, usually the right one, never fully develops. Monday, the boys went home, each sporting a significantly improved ear on the right side of his head. Tae-Wau was still unhappy. "Not good," he said about his new ear, although it didn't seem to dampen his spirits.

Dr. Ron Krueger, a Healing the Children board member who did the surgery, doesn't take Tae-Wau's reaction personally. He can understand that after 26 office visits and four surgical procedures, Tae-Wau might have expected more. "It's imperfect. It doesn't look exactly like the other side, but these kids can walk through public and not be scrutinized," Krueger said. "The sad part, for me, is that I don't get to see the parents' reaction. I think his parents are going to be ecstatic." The operation, though cosmetic, is valuable in Tae-Wau's home country, where people with physical disabilities are often shunned, even by their own families. At a glance, Tae-Wau's ear appears normal, but a closer look shows that his upper ear is not quite released from the side of his head. Still, most people don't notice any deformity and are surprised to learn about the surgery.

Since he arrived, David and Cheryl Cash and Tae-Wau have shared memories that will last all of their lifetimes. His English improved tremendously, along with his confidence. He abruptly decided several months ago that "Peter" would be his name in America. He quickly made friends at Oak Heights Elementary School in Lynnwood, where he enrolled six weeks ago and had a "birthday" cake in class Friday. (His birthday isn't until August.)

His love for fishing also came to light as he spent hours scouring through rods and tackle at G.I. Joe's or Wal-Mart stores, and more time on the area's lakes. And he developed the true taste of the Pacific Northwest. "He's been one of Starbucks' best customers," Cash said. "They're going to see a little dip in their income and say, 'Oh, that's when Tae-Wau went back to Korea.'" After sucking down his last grande chocolate chip frappuccino on Monday, Tae-Wau gave his final hugs and headed for the departure gate with an escort and the two other boys.

His host parents stood side by side, their arms pulling each other close, as Tae-Wau turned to give them one last smile and waved goodbye.

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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
From: Amos
Date: 20 May 04 - 02:27 AM

MAn, that is a good news tale. Thanks!


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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 20 May 04 - 12:18 PM

Stilly River SAge (somewhere up in there) said, in part:

the law of unintended consequences comes into play. It means that because these laws are poorly crafted and tie the hands of judges regarding things like "three strikes,"

There is in the law a maxim that "Hard cases make bad law, and bad law makes hard cases."

That is, to make a rule of law (whether case law or statutory) as a result of uncertain or aggravated cases makes law that is uncertain or draconian. As a result of such bad law, other cases down the line get prosecuted, tried, or punished badly.

Dave Oesterreich

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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
From: Acme
Date: 21 May 04 - 03:23 PM

This one is very important, and could actually be its own thread. A search brings this up in many papers; the link I'm using may require a free membership.


(05-21-2004) - Having intestinal worms actually may be a good thing, say scientists studying treatments for irritable bowel disorders. University of Iowa researchers have been using pig whipworms to treat Crohn's disease and ulcerative colitis, having patients ingest parasitic worm eggs in a glass of Gatorade. Raymond Fiedler, 65, of Clinton, a study participant, said he wasn't squeamish about drinking them down. "What you don't see can't hurt you," he said.

Dr. Joel Weinstock, lead researcher, said the theory is that the deworming of people in industrialized countries may be responsible for the increased incidence of disorders such as Crohn's and colitis. Both are painful, chronic inflammatory bowel disorders that can cause diarrhea, cramping and numerous complications. The worms, which are thin as a hair and can grow to half an inch long in the patient's intestine, may provide chemicals which suppress certain immune-system responses to antigens and keep the digestive tract healthy. "We assume that good hygiene is great, but maybe we don't want it," Weinstock said. "Being very, very clean ... we could be failing to get exposed to the healthy ones in our attempts to avoid the bad ones." He said the incidence of Crohn's and colitis in the United States was once 1-in-5000. Today, that ratio is about 1-250. "It's increasing and becoming a major health problem," Weinstock said.

The study, funded by the Crohn's and Colitis Foundation of America and the California-based Broad Foundation, examined about 120 people who suffer from irritable bowel disease. Some were given a drink with 2,500 worm eggs, while others were given a placebo. Weinstock said it didn't take much arm-twisting to persuade patients to ingest the worm eggs, because many were taking 25 pills or more a day for their condition. Some drugs raise their risk of cancer, he said. "If you came to me and I said you could take something that was safe with no side-effects every two to three weeks, what would you do?" Weinstock said. "The eggs are microscopic, so you can't see them, you can't taste them, nothing comes crawling out of you," he said. "It's not that icky when you're ill."

Weinstock said patients in the study showed significant improvement. Of 54 patients with ulcerative colitis, 24 were given a placebo and 30 drank the worm eggs. After three months, 13 of those given the egg drink improved. Only four of those given the placebo showed improvement. Twenty-nine patients with Crohn's disease swallowed the eggs. After three months, 82 percent of them were in remission. After six months, that number had risen to 91 percent. Fiedler, a retired middle school teacher, said he is now symptom free. "I feel fine - I feel great," he said.

While Fiedler wasn't officially told whether he received the placebo or the worm drink, a videotape of a colonoscopy, done about a year after the study began, showed the worms in his intestine. "From what I've seen in the videotapes and photographs, they just attach themselves to the intestine and gobble away," Fiedler said. Weinstock presented the study's finding this week at a Digestive Disease Week conference in New Orleans. Telephone messages left Thursday for other experts in gastroenterology were not immediately returned.

Weinstock said the pig whipworms were used because they're safe and live only a short time in humans, and cannot be transmitted to another person. By comparison, human whipworms can live in a person for up to two years, he said. Weinstock said no one before has studied the positive aspects of worms, which have always been considered to be negative. "I suspect, and this is total speculation, that it could be we want people to have worms - that the positive effects of worms would be good," Weinstock said. The research could lead to the development of drugs from chemicals produced by the worms, he said, adding that such drugs - and maybe even the worms themselves - "may be important not only for treating diseases but for prevention as well."

Meanwhile, Fiedler continues to drink the worm egg concoction. "They're training me now to mix them myself, so I can keep them in my refrigerator here, so I don't have to travel to Iowa City as often," he said.

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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
From: Mudlark
Date: 22 May 04 - 12:45 PM

This is another item from Link TV, often the best thing on the box...

Program notes: The Hole in the Wall...(watching these kids find and experiment with these computers is a total feel-good experience. Given the current administration and the tenor of most of the news, this made me feel great!)

" A revolution in information technology is redefining poverty, as how much you know is becoming just as important
as how much you own. "The Hole in the Wall" examines one possible solution to the growing technological gap
between rich and poor -- the so-called 'digital divide' -- that threatens to consign millions to an "information
underclass." When Indian researcher Sugata Mitra embedded a high-speed computer in a wall separating his
firm's New Delhi headquarters from an adjacent slum, he discovered that slum children quickly taught
themselves how to surf the net, read the news, and download games and music. Mitra then replicated the
experiment in other locations. Each time the results were similar: within hours, and without instruction, the
children began browsing the Internet.

Can children -- given only access and opportunity -- really teach themselves the rudiments of computer literacy with no instruction? "The Hole in the Wall" experiment, and the documentary film that chronicles it, show the answer to be a "Yes!" Mitra estimates that, given access to one hundred thousand computers, one hundred million Indian children could teach themselves computer literacy within five years. The film concludes by noting that the spread of information technology is changing societies around the world, and the implications of Mitra's experiment are profound -- particularly for poor people."

What a GREAT idea!!

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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
From: Amos
Date: 22 May 04 - 12:57 PM

Wow, Nancy, that one is a pure-dee positive beat!!


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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
Date: 23 May 04 - 06:14 PM

Glad I live in the UK

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From: Acme
Date: 31 May 04 - 09:23 PM

Lots of American cultural baggage goes with this story, and it is a classic definition of the term "meal ticket."

May 31, 2004, 5:34PM

Last widow of a Civil War veteran dies at 97

MONTGOMERY, Ala. (AP) -- Alberta Martin, the last widow of a Civil War veteran, died on Memorial Day, ending an unlikely ascent from sharecropper's daughter to the belle of 21st century Confederate history buffs who paraded her across the South. She was 97. Martin died at a nursing home in Enterprise of complications from a heart attack she suffered May 7, said her caretaker, Dr. Kenneth Chancey. She died nearly 140 years after the Civil War ended.

Her May-December marriage in the 1920s to Civil War veteran William Jasper Martin and her longevity made her a celebrated final link to the old Confederacy. After living in obscurity and poverty for most of her life, in her final years the Sons of Confederate Veterans took her to conventions and rallies, often with a small Confederate battle flag waving in her hand and her clothes the colors of the rebel banner.

"I don't see nothing wrong with the flag flying," she said frequently. Chancey said she loved the attention. "It's like being matriarch of a large family," he said. "She was a link to the past," Chancey said Monday. "People would get emotional, holding her hand, crying and thinking about their family that suffered greatly in the past."

Wayne Flynt, a Southern history expert at Auburn University, said the historical distinctiveness of the South, which is so tied to the Civil War, has been disappearing, but Martin provided people with one last chance to see that history in real life. "She became a symbol like the Confederate battle flag," he said.

The last widow of a Union veteran from the Civil War, Gertrude Janeway, died in January 2003 at her home in Tennessee. She was 93 and had married veteran John Janeway when she was 18.

In 1997, Martin and Daisy Anderson, whose husband was a slave who ran away and joined the Union Army, were recognized at a ceremony at Gettysburg, Pa. Anderson, who lived in Denver, died in 1998 at age 97. Janeway wasn't invited to the Gettysburg event because, at the time, no one outside her family knew her whereabouts.

Alberta Stewart Martin was not from the "Gone With the Wind" South of white-columned mansions and hoop skirts. She was born Alberta Stewart to sharecroppers on Dec. 4, 1906, in Danley's Crossroads, a tiny settlement built around a sawmill 70 miles south of Montgomery. Her mother died when she was 11. At 18, she met a cab driver named Howard Farrow, and they had a son before Farrow died in a car accident in 1926. Stewart, her father and her son moved to Opp. Just up the road lived William Jasper Martin, a widower born in Georgia in 1845 who had a $50-a-month Confederate veteran's pension. The 81-year-old man struck up a few conversations with the 21-year-old neighbor and a marriage of convenience was born. "I had this little boy and I needed some help to raise him," Alberta Martin recalled in a 1998 interview. They were married on Dec. 10, 1927, and 10 months later had a son, William.

She said her husband never talked much about the war, except the harsh times at Petersburg, Va. "He'd say it was rough, how the trenches were full of water. They were so hungry in Virginia that during the time they were fighting, they had to grab food as they went along. They came across a potato patch and made up some mashed potatoes," she said. Asked if she loved her husband, Martin said: "That's a hard question to answer. I cared enough about him to live with him. You know the difference between a young man and an old man." William Jasper Martin died on July 8, 1931. Two months later, Alberta Martin married her late husband's grandson, Charlie Martin. He died in 1983.

She became the focus of a dustup over the depiction of her and her late Confederate husband in the 1998 book "Confederates in the Attic." Among other things, the book by Tony Horwitz described William Jasper Martin as a deserter. A group that defends Southern heritage disagreed, contending there were at least two William Martins who served in Company K of the 4th Alabama Infantry Regiment and that Horwitz got the wrong one. Horwitz said his research was carefully checked and the book was accurate. The state government considered Martin's record clean enough to award him a Confederate pension in 1921 and to give Alberta Martin Confederate widow's benefits in 1996.

Martin's older son, Harold Farrow of North Little Rock, Ark., died last June. Her younger son, Willie Martin, lives in Elba. Alberta Martin is to be interred at New Ebenezer Baptist Church six miles west of Elba, in an 1860s-style ceremony following her funeral June 12.

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From: Acme
Date: 10 Jun 04 - 10:57 PM

Finally, an Old Dog That Can Learn New Tricks

By JAMES GORMAN, Published: June 11, 2004

Reports from owners notwithstanding, scientists have yet to discover a dog that can talk. But German researchers say they have found one that listens and learns like a human child. In a report being published today in the journal Science, the researchers say a 9-year-old border collie named Rico was able to learn the name of a new object in one try, by a process of elimination. Told to fetch an unfamiliar object with a name he had not heard before, Rico picked out the novel item from a group of familiar ones.

Even more important, Rico proved in other tests four weeks later that he remembered what he had learned, said Dr. Julia Fischer, an author of the report who is a senior research fellow in the evolution of communication at the Max-Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Leipzig, Germany. She said that Rico was displaying a kind of learning by inference that is called fast mapping. It was thought to be a language-learning ability specific to humans, but Rico's ability suggests it may be more widespread.

Rico was not picked at random for the study. His abilities were known to television audiences in Germany long before the scientists started working with him. In fact, said Dr. Fischer, it was Rico's performance retrieving a variety of objects on a popular game show, "Wetten, Dass?" (roughly "Want to Bet?"), that brought him to her attention. The owners say the dog knows the names of 200 objects. The scientists did not test this claim but said anecdotal evidence supported it.

The report is unlikely to surprise owners of border collies. The breed is known for its intelligence and intensity. Warren Mick, a border collie owner and trainer in upstate New York who is president of the Northeast Border Collie Association, said, "I've had dogs that could pick up something with one experience." He also said he had no doubt the dogs learned specific words.

In a commentary accompanying the Science article, Dr. Paul Bloom, a psychologist at Yale, wrote that the proper scientific controls were used in the experiment to avoid the possibility of cues from the owner other than the command. Such hidden cues have invalidated other impressive achievements of animals, most famously those of a horse known as Clever Hans who was said to have done arithmetic but was actually responding to unconscious cues from his owners. Dr. Bloom added that without further experiment, it was unclear that Rico's performance was related to the way children learn words. "It is too early to give up on the view that babies learn words and dogs do not," he concluded.

Dr. Fischer said the conclusions in the report were limited to Rico and could not be extrapolated to other border collies, or dogs in general, until more research was done. Rico might be a special case among dogs, she said, adding, "Maybe he's Albert Einstein."

This came from the New York Times

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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
Date: 11 Jun 04 - 06:18 AM

Not sure if anyone else pointed this out, as I just skimmed the thread, but I read recently that the chernobyl photo bike ride is a hoax.


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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
From: JennyO
Date: 11 Jun 04 - 11:06 AM

Oh dear. Goes to show you can't believe everything you read. I was totally sucked in by that one!

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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
From: Amos
Date: 11 Jun 04 - 12:07 PM

Yeah I was disappointed to read that angle on it. But it didn't make a lot of sense for a single girl to be living that richly.

As for that dog, now, it's an interesting question where the limit of this vocabulary is. You suppose they can learn verbs as well as nouns? I am remembering that wonderful fictional story about the signing gorilla named Amy who goes into the jungles as an interpreter on a scientific expedition.


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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
From: Acme
Date: 11 Jun 04 - 04:48 PM

It was a Twilight Zone sort of story, and I hadn't really questioned it regarding it being an actual trip (someone had to take the photos, and they couldn't all have been by her). Here's a bit of the thread from that link:

    Chornobyl "Ghost Town" story is a fabrication TOP <#top>
    e-POSHTA subscriber Mary Mycio writes:

    I am based in Kyiv and writing a book about Chornobyl for the Joseph Henry Press. Several sources have sent me links to the "Ghost Town" photo essay included in the last e-POSHTA mailing. Though it was full of factual errors, I did find the notion of lone young woman riding her motorcycle through the evacuated Zone of Alienation to be intriguing and asked about it when I visited there two days ago.

    I am sorry to report that much of Elena's story is not true. She did not travel around the zone by herself on a motorcycle. Motorcycles are banned in the zone, as is wandering around alone, without an escort from the zone administration. She made one trip there with her husband and a friend. They traveled in a Chornobyl car that picked them up in Kyiv.

    She did, however, bring a motorcycle helmet. They organized their trip through a Kyiv travel agency and the administration of the Chornobyl zone (and not her father). They were given the same standard excursion that most Chernobyl tourists receive. When the Web site appeared, Zone Administration personnel were in an uproar over who approved a motorcycle trip in the zone. When it turned out that the motorcycle story was an invention, they were even less pleased about this fantasy Web site.

I started this thread as a place to post interesting stories--I don't think there's a particular theme, unless it is one of "eclectic reading habits." Some of these are just head-scratchers. Others are little stories that are kind of sweet or odd, and some are there just as think pieces, like the "no comment" photo they used to run on the back inside page of Ms magazine years ago. Thanks for giving us "the rest of the story," (though I never was a Paul Harvey fan).


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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
From: Acme
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 12:55 PM

Return of the king
Traditions of ceremony are passed down to a new generation

By Diana Hefley, Herald Writer

TULALIP - Standing side by side, young and elderly tribal members blended their voices together to welcome the first salmon of the season. They sang to bless the fishermen, to honor visiting tribes and those who have passed along tribal traditions, and they sang to greet Haik Saib Yo Bouch - Big Chief King Salmon in the Lushootseed language. Every year, the Tulalip Tribes celebrate the return of the first king salmon with a ceremony.

On Saturday, hundreds gathered inside the tribal longhouse to hear how the first salmon of the season must be revered. "If we greet him and treat him with the respect he deserves, he provides for us all through the year," said Glen Gobin, who led the ceremony. Women and girls garbed in bright shawls danced around a circle of drummers. A dozen fishermen and women were blessed with a feather dipped in water. Soon a young boy ran into the smoky longhouse, announcing the arrival of the Big Chief.

The drummers and dancers walked to the water's edge, where a canoe carried the treasured salmon. Joe Gobin carved this year's canoe. The tribes' master carver, Jerry Jones, taught Gobin the tradition. Jones died last fall following a traffic accident. "Our teachings have come down through the years," Glen Gobin said. "There are those who have stepped forward to keep us together as one."

The gathering is an opportunity for young tribal members to understand more about their culture, said tribal member Judy Gobin. "We learn the ways of our ancestors. I think that's the greatest thing about this," she said.

The ceremony proceeded as the Big Chief was placed on a bed of ferns and cedar boughs and carefully carried back to the longhouse. Tribal members ate the fish and later returned its bones to the water. Tradition says the Big Chief will return to the Salmon People and report back to the others about how he was treated. More salmon will return if the tribe has shown him enough respect.

"If only we could work on the price of fish," Gobin joked during the ceremony.

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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
From: Mudlark
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 01:26 PM

Thanks again, SRS, for continuing this thread. My local Sunday paper did not arrive this morning--the only one I take--and I've amused myself much more reading back through all these posts. I don't know about 200 words, but somehow my corgis know whether I'm going into my office, to email, mudcat or whatever, or pass by that door and continue on outside. Obviously, the 2nd alternative is far more to their liking but they preceed me by several feet thru whatever door I'm planning on choosing. They wont always quit barking, however, even when I ask them very nicely.

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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
From: Acme
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 01:31 PM

Here's another one that is just plain disturbing: This woman is one sick puppy. I'm not going to bother to post the article so it might go away fairly soon. It's called "Virginia Death Row Woman Says Sentence Unfair." Personally I don't like the death penalty, but this sounds like the kind of person it was meant for.


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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
From: Amos
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 02:52 PM

Looks like the tip of an iceberg, to me, telling what is in the depths behind that crazy claim. Obviously she's not very good at seeing how events link together -- she even acknowledges that she "never thought of the consequences", and she can't see why plotting the murder and paying for it to be done is more heinous than being a gun for hire...I agree she seems too dumb to live, but that might be reason under law to spare her! :>) Hmm--is that a new area of jurisprudence? A breakthough? Stupidity as a defense? Wow....


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From: Acme
Date: 16 Jun 04 - 11:34 AM

Web Inventor Finally Earns a Profit   

June 16, 2004 07:11 AM EDT

HELSINKI, Finland - Tim Berners-Lee, who received a $1.2 million cash prize Tuesday for creating the World Wide Web, says he would never have succeeded if he had charged money for his inventions. "If I had tried to demand fees ... there would be no World Wide Web," Berners-Lee, 49, said at a ceremony for winning the first Millennium Technology Prize. "There would be lots of small webs." The prize committee agreed, citing the importance of Berners-Lee's decision never to commercialize or patent his contributions to the Internet technologies he had developed, and recognizing his revolutionary contribution to humanity's ability to communicate.

Berners-Lee, who is originally from Britain and was knighted last December, has mostly avoided both the fame and the fortune won by many of his Internet colleagues. Despite his prize, he remained modest about his achievements. "I was just taking lots of things that already existed and added a little little bit," said Berners-Lee, who now runs the standard-setting World Wide Web Consortium from an office at Massachusetts Institute of Technology. "Building the Web, I didn't do it all myself," he said. "The really exciting thing about it is that it was done by lots and lots of people, connected with this tremendous spirit."

Berners-Lee indeed took concepts that were well known to engineers since the 1960s, but it was he who saw the value of marrying them. Pekka Tarjanne, chairman of the prize committee, said "no one doubts who the father of the World Wide Web is, except Berners-Lee himself." Finish President Tarja Halonen presented the biennial award, subsidized by the government. The cash prize is among the largest of its kind, and Berners-Lee is the first recipient. The prize committee outlined the award to be given for "an outstanding innovation that directly promotes people's quality of life, is based on humane values and encourages sustainable economic development."

"Isn't this like a definition of the World Wide Web?" Tarjanne asked.

Berners-Lee first proposed the Web in 1989 while developing ways to control computers remotely at CERN, the European nuclear research lab near Geneva. He never got the project formally approved, but his boss suggested he quietly tinker with it anyway. He fleshed out the core communication protocols needed for transmitting Web pages: the HTTP, or hypertext transfer protocol, and the so-called markup language used to create them, HTML. By Christmas Day 1990, he finished the first browser, called simply "WorldWideWeb." Although his inventions have undergone rapid changes since then, the underlying technology is precisely the same.

His recent project - which experts say is potentially as revolutionary as the World Wide Web itself - is called the Semantic Web. The project is an attempt to standardize how information is stored on the Internet and to organize automatically the jungle of data found today on the Net into a "web" of concepts. By attaching meaning to data behind the scenes, computers can do a better job of searching for information. "It is an exciting new development that we're making," he said.

In his acceptance speech, Berners-Lee focused on technology as an evolving process that was just in the beginning. "All sorts of things, too long for me to list here, are still out there waiting to be done. ... There are so many new things to make, limited only by our imagination. And I think it's important for anybody who's going through school or college wondering what to do, to remember that now," he said.

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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
From: Amos
Date: 16 Jun 04 - 12:38 PM

Sir Tim strikes me as a thoroughly good person.

Good on him!


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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
From: Acme
Date: 17 Jun 04 - 12:26 PM

Posted on Thu, Jun. 17, 2004

Frenzy over foul ball hit close to home

By Bud Kennedy (Fort Worth) Star-Telegram Staff Writer

I know how Nick O'Brien feels. Some guy ripped me off at a game 33 years ago. I've never forgotten. I'll admit that this was no plain old foul ball -- not like the one 4-year-old Nick lost Sunday in Arlington, when a former youth minister plowed over him for the grab. Matt Starr of Sachse has apologized for the now-infamous Showdown in Section 22.

No, when I got robbed, I got robbed big-time. I lost a basketball. A grown man grabbed it from under my feet after I caught it in a halftime giveaway at a pro game. I use the word pro loosely, but back then the Texas Chaparrals were the only pros we had, even if they played with a red-white-and-blue basketball that looked more like a beach ball to the curious few watching in what is now the Fort Worth Convention Center. Today, the Chaparrals are the San Antonio Spurs, and that basketball would be worth about $3,000.

The last time I saw it, some man in a camel-brown topcoat was running away with it down the arena concourse, charging the lane harder than the Chaparrals' Rich Jones or Ron Boone had all night. For a few fleeting moments, I was the proud owner of one of three ABA basketballs thrown to the crowd by the Chaparrals, struggling in a failed attempt to draw Fort Worth fans to a few token home games for Dallas' first pro basketball team. Unlike Nick O'Brien, I actually caught the ball. But I stashed it under my seat. It was my first pro basketball game. I didn't know that you're supposed to cover a loose ball. When the second half started, I heard a rustling noise behind me. When I looked over my shoulder, all I saw was the man and the back of that brown topcoat -- and a red flash of the basketball.

Now that I look back, the odds of catching a basketball that night weren't all that bad. The Chaparrals only drew about 2,000 fans to games in Fort Worth, as few as 200 some nights. I don't remember anybody sitting around me being upset that I lost my basketball. Then again, I don't remember anybody sitting around me. Come to think of it, that man in the brown topcoat might have been some Chaparrals employee making a steal for future reuse.

I went home and back to playing with my favorite toy of all: a manual typewriter. Not that I would have been any good at basketball. Even back then, I could never leap any higher than the top pantry shelf.

As a victim of unrestrained fan greed, Nick O'Brien has come out much better. The Plano boy is getting autographed bats, baseballs and gifts from all over the country. He was in New York on Wednesday morning, grinning shyly on ABC's Good Morning America as Charlie Gibson gave his family a New York Mets bag and tickets to a Mets game. Gibson said the boy was "practically steamrolled by a bully." Then Gibson showed the now-famous TV clip of Starr smirking as Rangers broadcaster Tom Grieve said, "Yeah, you got the ball, buddy. Nice going. You took it away from a little kid. ... You know, there's a jerk in every park, and there is the biggest jerk in this park."

The aggressive fan was identified as a 28-year-old Sachse landscaper and former youth minister at the Sachse Assembly of God Church. Friends are praying that reporters will learn more about his church mission work, the newspaper said. Until he offered an apology Wednesday, the fan himself had not been found. His only explanation had been the one he gave Rangers broadcasters Sunday: "I just caught the foul ball."

When Starr fell into their laps, shoving Nick O'Brien aside to catch the foul ball, Nick's mother Edie O'Brien began swatting the intruder with a lineup card that she had been using as a hand fan. On GMA, she remembered the man's first words to her: "Don't hit me again." When she told him he had just pushed a 4-year-old boy, he only shrugged and said sarcastically, "Oh, well."

The Dallas Morning News credited a Fort Worth man, Mike Hall, with starting the chant of "Give him the ball!" Even a woman with Starr seemed to be pleading for him to give Nick the ball, Edie O'Brien said on ABC. "He didn't care," she said.

The famous foul ball inspired days of headlines. The Tucson Citizen played up the religious aspect: "4-year-old gets windfall after ex-youth minister knocks him aside." Other newspapers have called it the "Foul Ball Foul-Up" and christened Nick the "Foul Ball Boy."

Starr's defenders also came forth Wednesday -- if not in public, at least on the KXAS/Channel 5 message board at Anonymous writers were saying that he only caught a foul ball and fell accidentally, and that he should not be expected to give Nick the ball.

I just want to know whether he owns a brown topcoat.

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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
From: Acme
Date: 18 Jun 04 - 12:44 AM

First I saw the cartoon by David Horsey for June 18, 2004 and wondered what it was about. So I looked it up and found this. I've trimmed it for the sake of not taking up too much Mudcat space. It's interesting but depressing. Sounds like this guy is a real huckster and is getting away with it.

Wednesday, June 16, 2004

Gambling industry bankrolls Eyman
Out-of-state casino dollars pour into I-892 campaign
(Seattle P.I.)

Led by casino operators based in Nevada and Canada, the gambling industry in just two and a half months has poured nearly $300,000 into an initiative effort to legalize electronic slot machines in Washington's non-tribal casinos. Tim Eyman, the prolific, for-profit initiative promoter, is sponsoring Initiative 892 as well as Initiative 864, a property tax-cutting measure, but it is the former that has become his cash cow. The gambling industry has given so generously to I-892 that Eyman is paying himself $3,100 a week -- a total of $27,900 in the first nine weeks -- to run the campaign.

A leader of an opposition campaign, backed by casino-operating Indian tribes, suggested yesterday that Eyman might be diverting donations for the tax-cutting initiative to help cover expenses of I-892. The gambling initiative likewise would reduce property taxes, by whatever amount of tax revenue the electronic slots produce.

Eyman yesterday flatly denied mixing money between the two initiatives. "Both campaigns are kept separate and all expenses are kept separate," Eyman said in an e-mail to the Seattle Post-Intelligencer. "Every campaign is different and the mix of expenses is always different. That's the way it's always been." However, his campaign finance reports through the end of May show that his I-864 committee has spent more than $147,000 on postage, mailing permits and printing, but his campaign committee for I-892 has spent only $8,400 on those items. His past tax-cutting initiative campaigns typically have each spent $80,000 or more for such expenses.

Rollin Fatland, who is running No on I-892, a campaign mostly financed so far by the Muckleshoot Tribe, said of Eyman's two initiatives: "Both are petition-driven campaigns. Why would one have (high) printing (costs) and the other not? Why would one have postage and the other not? It doesn't compute."

Fatland, a consultant to the Muckleshoot Tribe, which has a casino on its reservation, said: "There is something very suspicious about how he is funding these two campaigns. If I were some of his supporters (of Initiative 864), I would be looking for an explanation here."

Critics of I-892 are betting that tax-opposing voters who form Eyman's political base are also opponents of expanded gambling.

I-892 would allow non-tribal gambling licensees -- bowling alleys, bars, taverns and mini-casinos -- to operate as many electronic slot machines as Indian tribes are authorized to have, currently more than 14,000. It would impose a 35 percent tax on gambling profits and use the proceeds to lower the state property tax.

I-864 would lower most local property tax levies by 25 percent. But while the gambling industry has infused I-892 with quick money, contributions to Voters Want More Choices, Eyman's campaign committee for I-864, have come in more slowly and in smaller amounts, a total of $218,650 in five months. To reach the November ballot, each initiative must obtain at least 197,734 valid signatures by July 2.

Eyman's principal focus appears to be on I-892, by far his most personally remunerative campaign ever. He has spent $133,945 on paid signature gatherers for I-892 but only $40,000 for paid signatures for I-864.


And a new anti-I-892 drive, the Campaign for Tribal Self-Reliance, has been launched with $96,131 contributed by the Nisqually Tribe's Red Wind Casino and $500 from the Washington Indian Gaming Association. The campaign co-chairmen are Ron Allen, chairman of the Jamestown S'Klallam Tribe and of the Washington Indian Gaming Association, and Brian Cladoosby, chairman of the Swinomish Indian Tribe.

But those two efforts combined haven't matched the money pouring into Just Treat Us the Same, Eyman's campaign committee for I-892. Of the $300,441 given to I-892 as of May 31, at least $292,000, and possibly more, has come from non-tribal casino operators, gambling licensees and contributors associated with the gambling industry who would benefit from expanded gambling in this state.


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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
From: Acme
Date: 22 Jun 04 - 05:35 PM

Health & Lifestyle News - June 22, 2004   

Here's a distorted "News" report

Estrogen Pills May Raise Alzheimer's Risk

June 22, 2004 03:00 PM EDT

CHICAGO - Estrogen pills appear to slightly increase the risk of Alzheimer's disease and other forms of dementia in postmenopausal women, a study found, echoing recent findings involving estrogen-progestin supplements. The findings contradict the long-held belief that estrogen (SRS note: horse estrogen--Pregnant Mare Urine) pills can help keep older women's minds sharp. The results came from a government study called the Women's Health Initiative and were published in Wednesday's Journal of the American Medical Association.

The research involved nearly 3,000 women, ages 65 to 79, who had had hysterectomies and had taken daily estrogen-only pills, sold by Wyeth Pharmaceuticals as Premarin, for an average of about five years. Dementia was diagnosed in 28 women who took estrogen, compared with 19 taking dummy pills. Those results were not statistically significant because the numbers were so small, but the trend was troubling, said co-researcher Stephen Rapp, a professor of psychiatry and behavioral medicine at Wake Forest University.

"Translated to a population of 10,000 older women taking estrogen alone, there would be an additional 12 cases of dementia per year," said lead author Dr. Sally Shumaker of Wake Forest University. In addition, 76 women on estrogen horse estrogen (Pregnant Mare Urine) developed mild bouts of forgetfulness, compared with 58 women in the placebo group. Pooling those results with the dementia group, the researchers found estrogen users faced a 38 percent increased risk of developing dementia or forgetfulness, and those results were statistically significant.

"No matter which outcome we're looking at, there is no evidence of benefit," Rapp said. The pills offer "no protection against dementia, and in fact the likelihood increases on hormone therapy." The research "succeeded in resolving the important issue that hormone therapy should not be given to women older than 65 years to prevent or delay onset of dementia, or with any expectation for meaningfully improving cognitive function," said Dr. Lon Schneider of the University of Southern California.

Whether different results would be found in younger women or with lower estrogen doses is unknown. SRS note: Now this really chaps my hide: they do this study using horse urine, and make no note that bioidentical estrogen is available and the results might be vastly different. I'd like to see someone study that! What this tells me is that taking horse hormones isn't good for human women!

Dr. Gary Stiles, Wyeth's chief medical officer, called the results disappointing and said Wyeth is continuing to develop new products for treating menopause symptoms, which can include hot flashes and vaginal dryness. Estrogen-only pills have been linked to uterine cancer. Because of that, most women who take hormones at menopause have used combined estrogen-progestin pills. But use of both types has dropped steeply in the past two years as the WHI results have trickled out. Worldwide sales of Wyeth's estrogen and progestin pills fell from $2.1 billion in 2001 to $1.27 billion last year. Most doctors now advise women to take the lowest possible dose for the shortest possible time.

The initial WHI results, announced in 2002, found that Wyeth's estrogen-progestin pills, sold as Prempro (SRS note: a synthetic hormone), increased older women's risk of breast cancer, strokes and heart attacks.

The WHI study was government-funded. The analysis by Shumaker, Rapp and colleagues was funded by Wyeth and Wake Forest. Shumaker has served as a consultant for Wyeth.

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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
From: Acme
Date: 23 Jun 04 - 12:29 PM

Read this one today online. It has been a long time coming. Would that Bush and Ashcroft try to do something USEFUL while they're in office. Instead of sneaking outrageous penalties for "indecency" in broadcasting into miltary funding bills, why don't they do something useful like look at the knee-jerk mandatory-sentencing legislation that has totally run amok in the last 20 years.

photo cutline: Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy gestures during a news conference on Wednesday, June 23, 2004 in Washington. Kennedy said that society should re-examine how it spends money and makes choices about who goes to prison, how long they stay and what happens when they get out. Kennedy accepted the first copy of a report from the American Bar Association that determined that many get-tough approaches to crime don't work and some, such as mandatory minimum sentences for small-time drug offenders, are unfair and should be abolished. (AP Photo/Evan Vucci)

ABA: End Mandatory Minimum Prison Terms
June 23, 2004 10:34 AM EDT

WASHINGTON - Supreme Court Justice Anthony M. Kennedy said Wednesday that society should re-examine how it spends money and makes choices about who goes to prison, how long they stay and what happens when they get out. He accepted the first copy of a report from the American Bar Association, which found that many get-tough approaches to crime don't work and some, such as mandatory minimum sentences for small-time drug offenders, are unfair and should be abolished.

Laws requiring mandatory minimum prison terms leave little room to consider differences among crimes and criminals, an ABA commission studying problems in the criminal justice system found. More people are behind bars for longer terms, but it is unclear whether the country is safer as a result, the ABA said. Long prison terms should be reserved for criminals who pose the greatest danger to society and who commit the most serious crimes, the report said. States and the federal government should find alternatives to prison terms such as drug treatment for many less serious crimes. "The costs of the American experiment in mass incarceration have been high," the report said. It said states and the federal government spent $9 billion on jails and prisons in 1982 and $49 billion in 1999, an increase of more than 400 percent.

Kennedy noted that while prison populations are rising, schools cannot afford sports and music programs for students. "Society ought to ask itself how it's allocating its resources," he said.

The report, nearly a year in the making, follows up on blunt criticism of the criminal justice system from Kennedy, a moderate conservative placed on the court by President Reagan. Kennedy asked the nation's largest lawyers' group to look at what he called unfair and even immoral practices throughout the criminal justice system. "The phrase `tough on crime' should not be a substitute for moral reflection," Kennedy said.

The ABA conducted a lengthy study and recommended changes in sentencing laws and in other areas. In the case of mandatory minimum sentencing laws, state legislatures and Congress would have to pass new legislation to repeal the existing laws. The ABA, the nation's largest lawyers' group with more than 400,000 members, will vote in August on whether to adopt the recommendations as official positions of the organization. The ABA's policies are not law, but are influential. "For more than 20 years, we have gotten tougher on crime," said ABA President Dennis Archer. "Now we need to get smarter." The ABA report also urged governors and the president to pardon more deserving prisoners, and recommended stronger efforts to reduce racial disparities in sentencing and in the prison population.

Based on current trends, a black male born in 2001 has a one in three chance of being imprisoned during his lifetime, compared with a one in six chance for a Latino male and one in 17 for a white male, the report noted. The report said that the likelihood that someone living in the United States will go to prison during his or her lifetime more than tripled to 6.6 percent between 1974 and 2001. An end to mandatory minimum prison terms is among the report's most specific recommendations, and probably one of the hardest to achieve. Mandatory minimum sentences have proliferated over the past two decades, and are often politically popular. They often respond to a specific new threat or phenomenon, such as the spread of crack cocaine in the 1980s.

In 1986, Congress required certain long federal prison terms for possession of crack that were longer than sentences for the powder form of the drug. For example, possession of just five grams of crack yields a mandatory prison term of at least five years.

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From: Amos
Date: 23 Jun 04 - 12:35 PM

Interesting idea. Mandatory minimums assume a lot of certainty about what happened.


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From: Acme
Date: 23 Jun 04 - 08:17 PM

Mandatory minimums give the judge no opportunity to BE a judge, to make a measured decision regarding the case at hand. They need to get rid of all of those "three strikes" laws also.


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From: Acme
Date: 09 Jul 04 - 01:38 PM

Kitten found swimming 3 miles at sea

July 9, 2004 10:24 AM EDT

CLEARWATER, Fla., Jul 09, 2004 -- A boatload of friends gathering scallops on Florida's west coast said a 9-inch-long kitten was found desperately paddling along three miles from shore. Those in the boat picked him up Saturday and he has been adopted. But no one knows how he got there, The St. Petersburg Times reported Friday.

When the apricot-colored kitten was spotted, the boat, traveling at 35 mph swerved around and picked it up. The kitten spent the rest of the day near Maggie Rogers, director of finances at the Clearwater, Fla., Marine Aquarium. After the others completed the day of scalloping, he was taken home, checked by a veterinarian and adopted by Rogers' sister-in-law, who named it Nemo, after the movie, "Finding Nemo."

The question of how the kitten got there remains. Some suggest he might have fallen off another boat. Another idea was he was an unwanted pet thrown overboard to die and still another was that he was being used as shark bait. Fishing guides said they had never heard of anyone doing that. "My opinion is somebody that sick should be put on a hook himself," said Wade Osborne, of Afishiando Guide Services and a cat owner.

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From: Amos
Date: 09 Jul 04 - 02:48 PM

Three miles??? He must have been dropped or thrown from a boat. Talk about one lucky little cat.


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From: Acme
Date: 12 Jul 04 - 01:52 PM

Officials smell a clue
Posted on Mon, Jul. 12, 2004
Associated Press

ANCHORAGE, Alaska - A strong odor led airline officials to what they believe is the 40 pounds of halibut a traveler reported missing from his checked bags two weeks ago. Brenee Davis, a general manager for Continental Airlines in Anchorage, said the company's baggage handlers discovered "a ton of rotting fish" under a luggage conveyor belt recently at Ted Stevens Anchorage International Airport. There's no way to be certain, but she suspects it was the halibut that Ray Bolanos reported missing from a fish cooler he checked on a flight June 24 from Anchorage to Seattle. The fish smelled terrible and was thrown away immediately. "We've gone through a few cans of Lysol," Davis said.

She said there is a new baggage belt system in the room, which has been in use for only a few weeks. Her theory is that Bolanos' cooler wasn't properly secured and came open on the conveyor belt.

Bolanos is not sure he buys that explanation. When his fish cooler came off the luggage carousel in Seattle, he said he found a rope he had tied around the chest inside and his 40 individually wrapped one-pound chunks of halibut gone. Reached on his cell phone Saturday in Kenmore, Wash., Bolanos told the Anchorage Daily News he had already heard from a Continental official about the rotten fish. "She was trying to say that maybe the new conveyor chewed off my rope," Bolanos said. "It's not something that was chewed off. It was a clear cut." He said he made arrangements to send the rope to the woman so she could investigate further.

He also passed along the name of another passenger who flew round trip to Anchorage from Seattle on Continental around the same time he did. That woman, Marian Maxwell, said about 20 pounds of halibut, a box of .38-caliber bullets and some fishing tackle vanished from her checked bags. Maxwell also believes her bags were pilfered. She said her two fish boxes came out last on the carousel, with their lids open and the nylon cords that had been tied around them sitting on top.

Officials at Continental's headquarters in Houston, Texas, could not be reached for comment over the weekend because their office was closed. In Anchorage, Continental shares a baggage room with Frontier Flying Service, and Davis said usually five to 10 handlers are working in the area at a time.

Davis said when the smell first arose in the days after Bolanos' flight employees thought it was related to construction at the airport. Then it got worse. "We started to get this huge smell like sewer," she said. "There was mass migration down there to figure out what the smell was." Davis wasn't sure how many pieces of fish had been found. "We're still finding it," she said. "We've got a long bag belt system." Several airport officials confirmed that rotten fish had been found, though none were directly involved in the discovery.

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From: Acme
Date: 15 Jul 04 - 11:31 AM

Published: Thursday, July 15, 2004

Man jailed by mistake sues county
A Marysville man was forced to change his name after it was used for years by a criminal.

A criminal stole Christopher Ryman's name. Then the people who maintain law and order in Snohomish County took his peace of mind. The Marysville man this week headed to court to try to win back some of what he lost. Ryman, 35, on Monday filed a lawsuit against Snohomish County alleging that he was unlawfully imprisoned for two days in June 2002.

It's a case of mistaken identity that never should have happened, maintain Ryman and his attorney, Brian Phillips of Everett. "You can't even imagine what this has done to me and my family," Ryman said. "I have no confidence in Snohomish County whatsoever." The lawsuit seeks damages for negligence, claiming that a sheriff's deputy and corrections officers at the county jail in Everett ignored evidence that a crook for years had been using Ryman's identity as an alias. The truck driver and father of six was arrested when a computer check during a routine traffic stop turned up arrest warrants issued in his name.

Ryman wound up behind bars even though he was carrying a letter from an Eastern Washington prosecutor explaining that his name was being used as an alias by another man with a history of drug and traffic offenses. Ryman obtained the letter after close calls elsewhere in 1997 and 2001. In each case, he was detained for a couple of hours but was released after police determined he wasn't the person sought on the warrant. In his letter, the prosecutor suggested that Ryman "carry this letter with you for the purpose of identification to advise law enforcement that your name is indeed being used as a stolen alias," Phillips said in court papers.

Ryman had the letter in his wallet, but the Snohomish County deputy who placed Ryman under arrest refused to look at the letter, according to court papers. Jail officials did read the letter, but told Ryman they didn't have authority to release him, Phillips said. He was set free the next day after being moved to a jail in King County, where officials checked his fingerprints and confirmed that he wasn't the man sought on the warrants.

Ryman said he lost a $20-an-hour trucking job because of the arrest. He also lost his faith in law enforcement. Ryman last year went to court and convinced a judge to legally change his first name, which enabled him to get a new Social Security number. He no longer is known by the identity that was connected to his arrests. He asked that his former name not be printed in this story. The man who took his name is a stranger, and he wants nothing to do with the legal mess that man created, Ryman said.

"That's what is scary. I don't know how this individual got my information," Ryman said. "He's worked under my name. He's committed crimes under my name." This week's lawsuit comes after the county did not take action on a $70,000 claim for damages Ryman filed earlier this year. County officials have discussed settling the case, but no agreement has been struck, deputy prosecutor Michael Held said. "I think the spirit of working toward a resolution exists," he said.

Held said he was unaware of any changes in policy or procedure governing arrests in the county, but added that "the wisdom of such changes are being explored."

Susan Neely, who oversees criminal justice matters for County Executive Aaron Reardon, said county officials are aware that steps to prevent similar mistakes need to be taken, but said she couldn't discuss details.

Ryman was pleased to hear that changes may be coming. All he initially wanted was for the sheriff's office to pay the impound fees on his pickup truck. "All they had to do was give me my $369. They didn't even need to say they were sorry," he said. Sheriff's spokeswoman Jan Jorgensen declined to discuss the case because the lawsuit is pending.

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From: wysiwyg
Date: 15 Jul 04 - 11:37 AM

Woman sues doctor who inseminated her with wrong sperm

NEW HAVEN, Conn. (AP) ? Laura Howard was hoping her trip to a fertility specialist would make her dream of a child with the man she loves come true. But as she left the office, the doctor suddenly ran out to the lobby and called her back.

There was a grave mistake. Instead of being inseminated with the sperm of her fiance, she received a vial of semen from another man.



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From: Acme
Date: 15 Jul 04 - 02:54 PM

I saw some of a story about that this morning on Good Morning America.

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From: wysiwyg
Date: 15 Jul 04 - 04:37 PM

Great quote:

"Stupidity is the only infinitely renewable resource"


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From: Bagpuss
Date: 16 Jul 04 - 09:17 AM

'Drowned' toddler brought back to life

Gerard Seenan
Thursday July 15, 2004
The Guardian

The parents of a two-year-old boy who was resuscitated more than seven hours after he fell into a garden pond yesterday spoke of their joy at his remarkable recovery.
Doctors at Heartlands hospital, Birmingham, thought they had little chance of reviving Joe Towey after he was brought to casualty with no heartbeat. But for seven hours they massaged the toddler's heart and managed to bring Joe back to life. He has sustained no long-term damage from the accident.

The toddler's parents, Michael Towey and Jennifer Nock, were at Joe's bedside as doctors worked on him.

Ms Nock noticed something was wrong on Boxing Day when she called Joe and received no response. She went to look for him and discovered him lying in a pond at the bottom of the garden.

In the hospital, doctors noticed his body temperature had plummeted and a faint hope grew. Nick Makwana, who led the recovery team, said: "His temperature was only 26 degrees, when it should be 36.5. We knew that if he had been cooled very quickly there was a chance."

When the body cools rapidly the brain and other organs can go longer without oxygen and glucose.

Joe spent five weeks in hospital, but is now back home and fully recovered.

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From: Acme
Date: 16 Jul 04 - 02:15 PM

That's that Mammalian dive reflex for you! But that resuscitation certainly took a longer time than one usually hears about. He's one very lucky little boy. I just looked up some drowning statistics. Scary and fast, especially down here where the water is so warm this time of year (Texas).


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From: saulgoldie
Date: 16 Jul 04 - 04:04 PM

From a piece on NPR's Morning Edition:

Moose draws on a dirty tunnel wall in Leeds, England.
Credit: Alex Coley © Symbollix 2003

July 15, 2004 -- A British street artist known as Moose creates graffiti by cleaning dirt from sidewalks and tunnels -- sometimes for money when the images are used as advertising. But some authorities call it vandalism.

Moose, whose real name is Paul Curtis, tells NPR's Steve Inskeep that he got the idea when he saw that people had written their names with their fingers on dirty tunnel walls in his hometown of Leeds. Moose does some freehand drawing, but also uses the grid from wall tiles to create perfect shapes and letters.

The tools are simple: A shoe brush, water and elbow grease, he says.

British authorities aren't sure what to make of the artist who is creating graffiti by cleaning the grime of urban life. The Leeds City Council has been considering what to do with Moose. "I'm waiting for the kind of Monty Python court case where exhibit A is a pot of cleaning fluid and exhibit B is a pair of my old socks," he jokes.


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Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
From: Acme
Date: 18 Jul 04 - 03:14 AM

Obscenity Charge Vs. Texas Woman Dropped

July 18, 2004 01:16 AM EDT

CLEBURNE, Texas - An obscenity charge has been dropped against a woman who received nationwide attention when she was arrested for selling two sex toys to undercover police officers posing as a couple. A judge dismissed the case against Joanne Webb, Johnson County Attorney Bill Moore said Friday in a statement. He said he asked the judge for the dismissal to prevent wasting county resources, but didn't say when the dismissal occurred. No one answered the phone at Moore's office Saturday morning.

Webb, a former fifth-grade teacher, started selling erotic toys and other adult products last year. The Passion Parties Inc. consultant hosts what she calls Tupperware-type parties for suburban housewives who feel more comfortable buying marital aids in a private home than at an adult bookstore or on the Internet. Webb was arrested Nov. 13, about a month after the undercover officers approached her at her husband's business in Burleson, about 10 miles south of Fort Worth, and bought two products. Had she been convicted of violating Texas' obscenity law, she could have been sentenced to a year in jail.

Webb's attorney, BeAnn Sisemore, said she and her client are pleased with the dismissal. "We knew that it was a possibility, but we weren't contacted," she told the Cleburne Times-Review for its Sunday edition. According to the state's obscenity code, an obscene device is a simulated sexual organ or an item designed to stimulate the genitals. Adult stores get around the law by posting signs that say "sold only as novelties."

Moore said a pending federal lawsuit filed by Sisemore would determine the constitutionality of the obscenity statute Webb was accused of violating.

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From: Acme
Date: 20 Jul 04 - 04:04 PM

Another Texas story:

Posted on Tue, Jul. 20, 2004

Lost tortoise gets a quick lift home

By Shirley Jinkins, Star-Telegram Staff Writer

Olive the traveling tortoise is home, thanks to a kindhearted driver who spied her crossing Curt Lane in southwest Arlington. Olive's family, Paul and Frances Venable and their children, posted signs in the neighborhood and talked to the Star-Telegram last week in their quest to find their pet of 13 years. "She has a little bit of eye irritation, probably from walking through tall grass, but other than that she seems just fine," Frances Venable said Monday.

The rare desert tortoise escaped through a breach in the Venables' fence on July 8. Grant Morris spotted Olive about 5:30 p.m. Sunday as he was returning home from a game of disc golf at Veterans Park.

"He said it was really huge," reported Morris' mother-in-law, Sudhe Mahajan, who is visiting from Delhi, India. "He saw the sign and then the turtle, and then it hit him, 'Oh my God, that's the turtle!' "

Morris hustled the roaming reptile into his car and called the Venables, and Olive was home before dark.

"Olive ate some flowers this morning and drank some water," Venable said Monday. "She went right into her burrow and seems happy to be home."

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From: Acme
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 10:44 AM

Leaping to conclusions, one can presume that this guy isn't so subtle a murderer as Scott Peterson or O.J. Simpson. . . with this guy's last name, you'd think he'd be more careful. And murder, of course, is the logical answer for any "underachiever." What an odd story.

Missing Jogger's Husband Hospitalized
July 23, 2004 08:07 AM EDT

SALT LAKE CITY - Around the time Mark Hacking called police to report that his pregnant wife never returned from her morning jog, he was at a furniture store buying a new mattress, according to news reports.

Hacking, 28, has not appeared publicly since Monday, the day he said his 27-year-old wife, Lori, vanished. Family members say he has since been hospitalized for stress. The Deseret News and television station KSTU reported Thursday that police found Hacking at a hotel about a half-mile from the couple's apartment early Tuesday. The station said he was running around naked outside the motel and was hospitalized. Police said only that they were called to a disturbance involving Hacking and that the matter was turned over to medical personnel. Detective Dwayne Baird said police considered Hacking a person of interest in the case but not a suspect, and that he had been interviewed as recently as Wednesday.

Lori Hacking was five weeks pregnant when she disappeared just days before the couple was to move to North Carolina, where Mark Hacking said he was going to attend medical school. But he had lied to his wife and family - he never graduated from college, nor was he accepted to any medical school, authorities said Thursday.

Meanwhile, The Salt Lake Tribune and KSL TV reported that Monday morning, in the minutes before he called police to report his wife missing, Mark Hacking was buying a new mattress. The owners of a Salt Lake furniture store told the Tribune that Hacking came in about 9:45 a.m. Lisa Downs, the wife of store owner Chad Downs, said the credit-card purchase went through at 10:23 a.m.. Police have said Hacking called them and reported his wife missing at 10:49 a.m.

Friends told the Tribune that he had called them about 10 a.m. about his wife's disappearance and said he had twice run his wife's usual jogging route, three miles each way.

Police removed a number of items from the couple's apartment Monday. They would not say what they have taken from the apartment, but television news footage showed paper bags, boxes and a box spring being removed. Police impounded a large trash bin from behind the apartment complex.

Mark Hacking's family and in-laws said they were stunned to learn Wednesday that he had not graduated from college or been accepted at a medical school, as he had claimed. Thelma Soares, Lori Hacking's mother, said that she was certain her daughter had not known about the discrepancies. "Up to the time when I spoke with her last, she was deceived also," she told KUTV-TV.

Douglas Hacking said even though his son is incapacitated by grief, they spoke of the deception Wednesday night at the hospital. "He has two older brothers who are high achievers, a physician and the other is an electrical engineer," he said. "He felt under some pressure to excel as well.

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From: Acme
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 09:05 AM

That last one has become a national story and is still playing it self out--to no happy ending, apparently.

Here is one that is also troubling, for different reasons. It busts some myths, but at the same time, concurs that these events do happen.

Survey paints different portrait of online abuser
August 2, 2004 04:50 AM EDT

HONOLULU -- Contrary to popular view, child molesters who look for their victims online typically aren't after young children to abduct and rape. These adults flatter teenagers, most of them girls ages 13 to 15, who willingly meet them and usually agree to sex, according to a national survey, the first of its type. It was reported Sunday at the American Psychological Association meeting.

Media reports have emphasized kidnappings of very young children lured through Internet contacts, "but that very seldom happens," says psychologist Kimberly Mitchell of the Crimes Against Children Research Center at the University of New Hampshire. The survey of 375 law enforcement agencies, partially financed by the U.S. Department of Justice, focused on 129 arrests of suspected molesters who "met" victims online. The cases accurately reflect the estimated 500 such arrests a year, says Mitchell, who analyzed findings with co-authors Janis Wolak and David Finkelhor.

Among myths challenged by the survey:

  • Molesters pretend to be peers. Only 5% of the suspects did.

  • They move quickly. Most messaged online with future victims for more than a month; four out of five had phone conversations.

  • They don't mention wanting sex. Only one out of five hid their desire before meeting, though many professed love and courted the children.

    When teenagers do meet the adults, sex or oral sex almost always occurs, but only 16% of the children are coerced, police investigators say. Although molesters favor girls, about a quarter of the arrests were for abusing teen boys. These boys may be struggling with feelings of being gay and searching for support online, Mitchell says.

    "Our prevention strategy needs to change," she says. Parents have been warned to monitor kids' Internet use; filtering software can protect teens too, but many know how to bypass the programs.

    Parents should be open about discussing sexual topics and make it clear that sex with an adult is a crime, Mitchell says. Depressed or otherwise troubled children are most likely to form close online ties, studies show, and they might be particularly vulnerable to molesters, she says.

    Molesters capitalize on teens' yearning for acceptance, adds San Jose, Calif., psychologist David Marcus: "Being understood is a powerful aphrodisiac."

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    From: JennyO
    Date: 02 Aug 04 - 11:04 AM

    This little article was in the Sydney Morning Herald today. I always knew that glass of wine was doing me good, what with the antioxidants and things, and this is even better!

    Pass the bottle, I need a little think.

    August 2, 2004
    It is news guaranteed to raise a cheer among those who enjoy a glass or two: drinking half a bottle of wine a day can make your brain work better, especially if you are a woman.

    Research to be published today by academics at University College, London, has found that people who even drink only one glass of wine a week have significantly sharper thought processes than teetotallers. The benefits of alcohol can be detected when a person drinks up to four or five bottles of wine per week.

    In the research, part of a study set up in 1967 to monitor the long-term health of British public servants, required more than 6000 people to sit psychometric tests. Questions ranged from verbal and mathematical reasoning problems to tests of short-term memory. The public servants' performance was then matched against their drinking.

    The study in the American Journal of Epidemiology took into account all alcohol consumption and was not specific to wine. But the results showed those having just one glass of wine a week did much better in the tests than more abstemious drinkers.

    The benefits were most marked among women and showed no sign of flattening out with increasing consumption.

    The researchers say women might benefit more than men because of the different way they metabolise alcohol.

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    From: Acme
    Date: 02 Aug 04 - 11:22 PM

    Jenny, that's great. I'm glad to see when others post articles here--I didn't intend this to be my own personal reading room, but a place to stick interesting articles that don't necessarily require their own thread.

    I just wish that glass of wine in the evening didn't add so many calories--I've stopped having a glass each evening because I have been trying to take off a few pounds. The trick seems to be to have the wine at dinner, not later by itself. Your article is more appealing than this next one, though when you get past the "yuck" factor it has great news for folks with severe infections:

    Maggots Make Medical Comeback
    August 2, 2004 02:16 PM EDT

    WASHINGTON - Think of these wriggly little creatures not as, well, gross, but as miniature surgeons: Maggots are making a medical comeback, cleaning out wounds that just won't heal. Wound-care clinics around the country are giving maggots a try on some of their sickest patients after high-tech treatments fail.

    It's a therapy quietly championed since the early 1990s by a California physician who's earned the nickname Dr. Maggot. But Dr. Ronald Sherman's maggots are getting more attention since, in January, they became the first live animals to win Food and Drug Administration approval - as a medical device to clean out wounds.

    A medical device? They remove the dead tissue that impedes healing "mechanically," FDA determined. It's called chewing. But maggots do more than that, says Sherman, who raises the tiny, wormlike fly larvae in a laboratory at the University of California, Irvine. His research shows that in the mere two to three days they live in a wound, maggots also produce substances that kill bacteria and stimulate growth of healthy tissue.

    Still, "it takes work to convince people" - including hospital administrators - that "maggots do work very well," said Dr. Robert Kirsner, who directs the University of Miami Cedars Wound Center. "They'll probably be easier to use now that they're FDA-approved, and we'll talk about it more and think about it more," Kirsner said. He estimates he uses maggots in about one in 50 patients where conventional therapy alone isn't enough.

    This has been quite a year for wormlike critters. In June, FDA also gave its seal of approval to leeches, those bloodsuckers that help plastic surgeons save severed body parts by removing pooled blood and restoring circulation. And in the spring, University of Iowa researchers reported early evidence that drinking whipworm eggs, which causes a temporary, harmless infection, might soothe inflammatory bowel disease by diverting the overactive immune reaction that causes it. There's a little more yuck factor with maggots. Most people know of them from TV crime dramas, where infestations of bodies help determine time of death.

    Actually, maggots' medicinal qualities have long been known. Civil War surgeons noted that soldiers whose wounds harbored maggots seemed to fare better. In the 1930s, a Johns Hopkins University surgeon's research sparked routine maggot therapy, until antibiotics came along a decade later. Today, despite precise surgical techniques to cut out dying tissue, artificial skin and other high-tech treatments, hard-to-heal wounds remain a huge problem. Diabetic foot ulcers alone strike about 600,000 people annually and lead to thousands of amputations.

    It's not unusual to spend two years and $30,000 treating one, says Dr. David G. Armstrong, a Chicago specialist who first tried maggot therapy in frustration about seven years ago and says he's now used it on several hundred patients. Drop maggots into the wound and cover with a special mesh to keep them in place. Two to three days later, after the maggots have eaten their fill, lift them off and dispose. Wound size determines how many maggots, and how many cycles of therapy, are needed. It typically costs a few hundred dollars, says Armstrong, of the Rosalind Franklin University of Medicine and Science.

    One of Sherman's studies found 80 percent of maggot-treated wounds had all the dead tissue removed, compared with 48 percent of wounds surgically debrided. Armstrong is about to publish research that suggests maggot-treated patients also spend fewer days on antibiotics.

    Patients say it's not that hard to accept. Pamela Mitchell of Akron, Ohio, begged to try maggots when surgeons wanted to amputate her left foot, where infection in an inch deep, 2-inch-wide diabetic ulcer had penetrated the bone. It took 10 cycles of larvae, but she healed completely.

    How did they feel? On day 2, when the maggots were fat, "I could feel them moving, because they were ready to come out," she recalls. But, "if you're faced with amputation or the maggots, I think most people would try the maggots."

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: JennyO
    Date: 02 Aug 04 - 11:40 PM

    SRS - yes, I had actually seen something about the maggot therapy on TV a while ago, and although the idea of it sort of grosses you out, it does sound like it works. I hope I never need it, I must say.

    Actually, I have a collection of newspaper articles in a folder that I have collected from time to time - they go back years, long before I had a computer. Quite often it's the creative and amusing headings that attract me. I wonder if any of them are still online anywhere? Must spend some time browsing....

    Jenny (looking forward to my healthy glass of wine tonight)

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Amos
    Date: 03 Aug 04 - 12:43 AM

    What do ya know. I am impressed!! Shows you you should be careful what you categorize and how, doesn't it??


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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 10 Aug 04 - 09:19 AM

    This story is one that is so depressing that it needs an examination for many reasons. On the surface as a cautionary tale about anger management and a sense of proportion, but from a societal viewpoint, as an examination of mental health. Who raised this guy and his partners in crime, how, and what did he learn in prison? This man was caught trespassing. He and the three youths he hired got worked to such a frenzy that they would not only bludgeon, but render un-identifiable, these people over their impound of a video game.

    Here is the whole story

      4 Officers Fired Over Custody Allegation
      Four Probation Officers Fired for Allegedly Letting Murder Suspect Slip Through the Cracks (AP)

      TALLAHASSEE, Fla. Aug. 9, 2004 ? The state fired a probation officer and three supervisors Monday for allegedly failing to keep custody of an ex-convict who is the lead figure in the vicious beating and stabbing deaths of six people last week. Crosby had no answer for why Victorino slipped through the cracks.


      Police said the killings were the brutal culmination of an argument between Victorino and one of the victims, believed to be Erin Belanger, 22. She was singled out for a beating so brutal that even dental records were useless in trying to identify her. Victorino and three teenage defendants have been charged with first-degree murder and armed burglary. The four were denied bond and appointed public defenders Monday during their first court appearance.

      Authorities say the source of the dispute was an Xbox video game system and clothes owned by Victorino. Belanger's grandparents, from Maine, own a Florida winter home that was supposed to be vacant this summer, but police said Victorino and other squatters used it in July as a party spot. Joe Abshire, Belanger's brother-in-law, said Erin had talked to him recently about heading to the vacant house to go swimming one day and finding about six people living there. The squatters were kicked out, but they left behind the Xbox and clothes. Belanger took the items back to the three-bedroom rental home she shared with friends.

      Over the next days, deputies were called to the grandparents' house six times. The victims also reported a tire-slashing at their home and a threat. The squatters warned Belanger that "they were going to come back there and beat her with a baseball bat when she was sleeping," Abshire told The Sun of Lowell, Mass., for Sunday editions.

      All four suspects were armed with aluminum bats when Victorino kicked in the locked front door, according to arrest records. The group, who wore black clothes and had scarves on their faces, grabbed knives inside and attacked victims in different rooms of the three-bedroom house as some of them slept, authorities said. Victorino, the last to leave the house, took the Xbox, police said.

      The victims, who ranged in age from 18 to 34, were found in bloody beds, and on bloody floors, and there were crimson spatters on the walls and the ceiling. "This is the worst thing that I've ever seen in my career," said Sheriff Ben Johnson, a 33-year veteran of law enforcement. "The brutal force used against the victims ... it's indescribable."


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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 16 Aug 04 - 10:16 AM


    Washington Man Jumps Off Ferry to Rescue Dog
    August 16, 2004 06:11 AM EDT

    BREMERTON, Wash. - When Jeff Fisher noticed his dog had gone overboard, he wasn't sure if the ferry would stop to retrieve Ruben. So the Bremerton man jumped off the ferry into Puget Sound's chilly waters to save his beloved Labrador-blue heeler mix. "He's as much a part of our family as our baby will be," Fisher said as he dried himself off after being pulled out of the water Friday evening. He and his wife are expecting their first child.

    It all started when the ferry Hyak had engine trouble and stopped on the way from Seattle to Bremerton. Fisher and Ruben got out of their car to see what was going on and while Fisher was talking to some other dog owners, Ruben disappeared. "A guy said, 'Your dog just jumped overboard!'" Fisher told The (Bremerton) Sun.

    Ruben apparently went overboard as the ferry was starting up again. Fisher said he ran to the back of the boat, saw someone point to a dog in the water, then grabbed a life buoy, jumped in and started swimming. Once in the water, he could no longer see Ruben. "It was really hard to see in those big waves," he said Saturday in an interview with KIRO Television.

    The ferry stopped, backed up and sent out a life boat to rescue both Fisher and Ruben. "I was expecting to be in trouble ... but they totally understood that I had to get my dog," he said.

    Fisher said the ferry crew were "nothing but nice the whole time," although they advised him to keep his dog on a leash next time. "We obviously do not encourage people to jump into the water from the ferry," said Patricia Patterson, spokeswoman for Washington State Ferries. "But I understand the reaction. If it were my dog, I likely would have done the same thing." Fisher didn't need to jump, though. Ferry crew members are trained to stop to rescue any pet that goes overboard.

    Samantha Fisher said she was "freaked out" when she saw her husband in the water. "I didn't want to lose a husband and a dog five weeks before I had a baby," she said. "But it didn't surprise me that he jumped. He's been a lifeguard for a long time, and he loves dogs."

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 18 Aug 04 - 07:53 PM

    Many of the Nigerian children could stand to be rescued as well.

    Children abandoned in Nigeria restart their lives in Texas
    August 18, 2004 04:46 PM EDT

    Houston, Texas (dpa) - Seven children who returned to the United States after being left to fend for themselves in Nigeria by their adoptive mother are restarting their lives in foster care, reports said Wednesday. The three boys and four girls ranging in age from 8 to 16 were discovered August 4 living in squalor in an orphanage by Warren Beemer, a youth pastor from a San Antonio church who was in Nigeria on a tour of his church's missions. The children returned to Houston on Friday.

    Beemer said he was shocked to discover the children whom he recognized as American when he heard one of the girls speaking English. "She said in a very strong, spirited way, 'Houston', when I asked where she was from," Beemer said on CNN Wednesday. "She told us all her brothers and sisters were there and led us to a dark room where they just sat there along a wall looking at us." The children told Beemer that their mother, who adopted the two sets of siblings in 1996 and 2001, had taken them to Nigeria in October and enrolled them in a school.

    A relative of their mother's fiance lives in Nigeria, Estella Olguin, a child protective services official in Harris County Texas told the Houston Chronicle. But he apparently deserted them, and the children were sent to the orphanage after their tuition money stopped. The children's mother returned to Houston about a month after taking them to the western African country. The Chronicle reported that the woman, who has not been charged with any crime, went to Iraq as a civilian food-service worker in April, but is now back in Texas. She had been approved for the adoptions after passing an evaluation conducted by a nonprofit child welfare agency in Houston, Olguin said.

    Beemer told CNN that the children said their mother consistently used support money she received for the children to buy things for herself and had taken them to Nigeria because she didn't want them any more. The woman recieved monthly payments of 512 dollars per child, according to the Chronicle. The amount was based on their status as minority siblings wishing to stay together, which made them a special needs case considered hard to adopt.

    Houston child protective services cut off the payments in March when the service learned the children were not living with her. The children told Beemer they had informed numerous people in Nigeria that they had been abandoned by their adoptive mother, but they had begun to believe they would never get home to Houston. Beemer quizzed them about their lives in Texas. He said they talked enthusiastically about Houston's professional sports teams. Then, Beemer said, they put their hands over their hearts and sang the American national anthem.

    "I promised them they would be going home," Beemer told the Chronicle Tuesday. "I said, 'Guys, in no uncertain terms, you will be going home.'" Olguin said child protective services officials were trying to get medical and psychological care for the children and enroll them in school. Three of the children were treated for malaria after returning to Houston.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 27 Aug 04 - 11:41 AM

    Published: Friday, August 27, 2004

    Doctors transplant jawbone grown on man's back
    Stem cells may have played part in pioneering operation

    By Emma Ross, Associated Press

    LONDON - A German who had his lower jaw cut out because of cancer has enjoyed his first meal in nine years - a bratwurst sandwich - after surgeons grew a new jaw bone in his back muscle and transplanted it into his mouth in what experts call an "ambitious" experiment. According to this week's issue of The Lancet medical journal, the German doctors used a mesh cage, a growth chemical and the patient's own bone marrow, containing stem cells, to create a new jaw bone that fit exactly into the gap left by the cancer surgery.

    Tests have not been done to verify whether the bone was created by blank-slate stem cells, and it is too early to tell whether the jaw will function normally in the long term. But the operation is the first published report of a whole bone being engineered and incubated inside a patient's body, and then transplanted.

    Stem cells are the master cells of the body that go on to become every tissue in the body. They are a hot area of research, with scientists trying to find ways to prompt them to make desired tissues, and perhaps organs. But while researchers debate whether the technique resulted in a scientific advance involving stem cells, the operation has achieved its purpose and changed a life, said Stan Gronthos, a stem cell expert at the Institute of Medical and Veterinary Science in Adelaide, Australia. "A patient who had previously lost his mandible (lower jaw) through the result of a destructive tumor can now sit down and chew his first solid meals in nine years ... resulting in an improved quality of life," said Gronthos, who was not connected with the experiment.

    The operation was done by Dr. Patrick Warnke, a reconstructive facial surgeon at the University of Kiel in Germany. The patient, a 56-year-old man, had his lower jaw and half his tongue cut out almost a decade ago after getting mouth cancer. Since then, he had only been able to slurp soft food or soup from a spoon. Artificial jaws made from plastic or other materials are not used because they pose too much of a risk of infection. Warnke and his group began by creating a virtual jaw on a computer after making a three-dimensional scan of the patient's mouth. The information was used to create a thin titanium micro-mesh cage. Several cow-derived pure bone mineral blocks the size of sugar cubes were then put inside the structure, along with a human growth factor that builds bone and a large squirt of blood extracted from the man's bone marrow, which contains stem cells.

    The surgeons then implanted the mesh cage and its contents into the muscle below the patient's right shoulder blade. He was given no drugs other than antibiotics to prevent infection from the surgery. The implant was left in for seven weeks, when scans showed new bone formation. It was removed about eight weeks ago, along with some surrounding muscle and blood vessels, put in the man's mouth and connected to the blood vessels in his neck. Scans showed new bone continued to form after the transplant.

    Four weeks after the operation, the man ate a German sausage sandwich, his first solid meal in nine years. He has reported no pain or any other difficulties associated with the transplant, Warnke said, adding that he hopes to be able to remove the mesh and implant teeth in the new jaw about a year from now.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: The Fooles Troupe
    Date: 01 Sep 04 - 06:00 AM

    The Australian: Safe space protest ends in eviction [September 01,

    Safe space protest ends in eviction
    Brendan O'Keefe
    September 01, 2004

    THREE Wollongong University students campaigning for a safer space for gays on campus have described as "overkill" an operation by 10 armed riot police to eject them from a room they had occupied for 47 hours.

    The students, the remainder of an original group of 16 who entered a booked function room on Thursday and locked it down hours later, were evicted on Saturday afternoon.

    Spokeswoman Annaliese Constable told the HES that about 20 officers, including armed riot squad police, members of the police rescue squad and regular police officers either burst into the Belmore Room or were on hand outside to arrest the three.

    Ms Constable and two others, Daniel Brown and Dominika Grossy, were charged with trespass.

    A university spokesman said the eviction was a "hygiene issue".

    "If it was a hygiene issue, why didn't they send up a bar of soap?" Ms Constable said.

    The students, from the Allsorts gay and lesbian group, had been campaigning for "a couple of years" with letters to and meetings with the university for a safe space on campus.

    Once inside the Belmore room, the students declared it their space.

    Their present room is off-campus and is not patrolled by university security. It is prone to flooding and rainwater runs down internal walls near powerpoints.

    Earlier this year, a female student was trapped in the queer space by a man who blocked the door with his bike and threatened to "burn the woman to death" for being a lesbian, Allsorts said in a statement.

    The students want the university to move them on to campus and to provide security patrols and better health and safety standards.

    Mr Brown, queer delegate on the Students Representative Council, said of the raid: "It was total overkill. We had 10 armed riot police with helmets and shields burst into the room. I was totally and utterly speechless and shocked.

    "The fact that a peaceful student protest was burst into by 10 riot police ... we were leaning against the door and getting smashed against it. The police were totally high on adrenalin and quite aggressive."

    Mr Brown said he was frisked twice and that Ms Constable and Ms Grossy were frisked at Wollongong police station.

    Acting vice-president (administration) Chris Grange was unable to comment in detail because charges were pending.

    In a statement, however, he said students "should follow the proper procedure of raising their concerns through the SRC [to bring] the relevant issues forward to university management".

    The occupation was the culmination of Sexuality Week activities at the university, during which, Ms Constable said, Allsorts banners were stolen, torn down and stomped into the dirt and a petition was stolen and defaced with messages such as "die fags".

    Allsorts will tomorrow present vice-chancellor Gerard Sutton with its award to Wollongong as the "most homophobic university in Australia".

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 23 Sep 04 - 10:42 PM

    The story as it appears here was at an Earthlink news site that isn't a stable URL. I found a similar story here. But the one below is pretty interesting, and not that long, so I posted all of it.

    MIT Works to Power Computers With Spinach
    September 23, 2004

    BOSTON - "Eat your spinach," Mom used to say. "It will make your muscles grow, power your laptop and recharge your cell phone... "

    OK. So nobody's Mom said those last two things.

    But researchers at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology say they have used spinach to harness a plant's ability to convert sunlight into energy for the first time, creating a device that may one day power laptops, mobile phones and more. Photosynthesis, the process by which plants use light beams for energy rather than eating food like animals, has been known to scientists for decades.

    But attempts to combine the organic with the electronic had always failed: Isolate the photosynthetic proteins that capture the energy from sunlight, and they die. Inject the water and salt needed to keep the proteins alive, and the electronic equipment is destroyed. That was until Shuguang Zhang, associate director of MIT's Center for Biomedical Engineering, discovered that protein building blocks called detergent peptides could be manipulated to keep the proteins alive up to three weeks while in contact with electronics.

    "Stabilizing the protein is crucial," said Zhang, who collaborated with researchers from MIT, the University of Tennessee and the U.S. Naval Research Laboratory, including electrical engineers, nanotechnology experts and biologists. "Detergent peptide turned out to be a wonderful material to keep proteins intact." The scientists, whose findings were first reported by in NanoLetters, a publication of the American Chemical Society, then created a "spinach sandwich."

    Why spinach?

    In reality, any number of plants could have been used. But the researchers chose spinach because "it is cheap and is easily available from the grocery store," Zhang said. The spinach was ground up and purified to isolate a protein deep within the spinach cells. A top layer of glass was coated underneath with a conductive material and a thin layer of gold to aid the chemical reaction. In the middle, the spinach-peptide mixture sits on a soft, organic semiconductor that prevents electrical shorts and protects the protein complexes from a bottom layer of metal.

    By shining laser light on the "sandwich," researchers were able to generate a tiny current. While one device by itself can't generate much energy, billions of them together could produce enough electricity to power a device. "It's like a penny," Zhang said. "One penny is not much use, but 1 billion pennies is a lot of money."

    Practical applications are still a decade or so away, but the advantages include the technology's lightweight qualities, portability and environmental friendliness. "There is no waste," Zhang said. The researchers suggest the technology could be used as a backup energy supply for battery-powered portable devices. "We have crossed the first hurdle of successfully integrating a photosynthetic protein molecular complex with a solid-state electronic device," said Marc Baldo, an assistant professor of electrical engineering and computer science at MIT.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 25 Sep 04 - 11:54 PM

    An article from Scientific

    Ancient Long-Necked Reptile Was Stealthy Suction Feeder
    Scientists have unearthed the fossil of an ancient aquatic reptile that sported a neck almost twice as long as its meter-long body. The 1.7-meter-long neck appears to have been too rigid to twist around in search of prey, however, so its function was at first uncertain. "This animal was one of those things that comes along and says 'wait a minute, you don't know as much as you thought you did'" about what long necks are good for, says Michael LaBarbera of the University of Chicago, one of the authors of a paper detailing the find published today in Science.

    The Guanling limestone formation in China, where the new specimen was found, was deposited on the ocean floor about 230 million years ago in the Triassic period, when dinosaurs were becoming prevalent on land. The fossil belongs to the carnivorous species Dinocephalosaurus orientalis, which scientists first described only last year. It is a protorosaur, a group of reptiles that includes Tanystropheus, whose ludicrously long neck has stimulated debate since its discovery in the 1850s. Unlike Tanystropheus, however, Dinocephalosaurus had flipper-shaped limbs, indicating a largely aquatic lifestyle.

    The authors suggest that the long, thin neck enabled Dinocephalosaurus to sneak up on prey in murky water without revealing its full size. In addition, the 25 neck vertebrae bore ribs running along the spine. Straightening the spine and extending the ribs could have rapidly increased the volume of the neck, sucking in both prey and water. Some modern fish rapidly expand their mouths to accomplish a similar "suction feeding." --Don Monroe

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Mudlark
    Date: 26 Sep 04 - 02:58 AM

    Dinocephalosauras sounds suspiciously like what's been hiding in Loch Ness...

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 26 Sep 04 - 03:20 AM

    Yes, it does! Have any tourists been sucked off of the surface of the lake lately?

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: The Fooles Troupe
    Date: 26 Sep 04 - 03:42 AM

    I wonder if it's related to the Snufflufugus that lives in Sesame Street?

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 26 Sep 04 - 09:26 AM

    Naw--everyone knows Snuffy has a long NOSE, not a long neck! (You could make a stronger case for Big Bird.)

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: The Fooles Troupe
    Date: 26 Sep 04 - 09:41 AM

    Big Bird's Grandparents lived in Loch Ness?

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: The Fooles Troupe
    Date: 26 Sep 04 - 10:48 AM

    Bill Berkowitz
    Working For Change

    Salvation Army discriminates

    One of nation's largest charities sued by employees for religious discrimination

    All is not well with one of the nation's largest charities.

    Eighteen current and former employees of the Salvation Army's social services arm have filed suit against the organization, accusing it of "imposing a religious veil over secular, publicly financed activities like caring for foster children and counseling young people with AIDS," the New York Times reported in late February. "I was harassed to the point where eventually I resigned," said Margaret Geissman, a former human resources manager who told the Times that her superior asked for the religions and sexual orientations of her staff. "As a Christian, I deeply resent the use of discriminatory employment practices in the name of Christianity."

    The employees, "including senior administrators and caseworkers that are Jewish, Catholic, Protestant and nonreligious," filed their lawsuit in United States District Court in Manhattan. They're being represented by the New York Civil Liberties Union and by Martin Garbus, a well-known First Amendment lawyer. At a press conference announcing the suit, Garbus pointed out that it strikes at the heart of the president's faith-based initiative and the separation of church and state. Donna Lieberman, executive director of the New York Civil Liberties Union, added that "It's critical at this stage of the game to put a stop to proselytizing with government money."

    According to Reuters, the Salvation Army Greater New York Division receives $89 million a year in taxpayer money, mostly from the state, New York City and Nassau and Suffolk counties on Long Island. Anne Lown, a plaintiff and an associate director of the Army's children's services agency in New York, said that the charity employs nearly 900 people and provides services for more than 2,000 children.

    The Salvation Army is no stranger to controversy revolving around issues related Bush's faith-based initiative. Six months after the initiative's unveiling in late January 2001, it was revealed that top-level administration officials had been conducting secret meetings with the Salvation Army to enlist its political and financial support for the then-flagging project. According to the Washington Post's Dana Milbank, the meetings, which included Karl Rove, the president's chief political strategist, and Don Eberly, the then Deputy Director of the newly opened White House Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives, had been going on for several months.

    An internal Salvation Army document indicated that in exchange for its support, "which included plans for an Army-sponsored $100,000 public relations campaign," the charity would receive assurances that any bill passed by Congress would contain a provision allowing religious charities to sidestep state and local anti-discrimination measures barring discriminatory hiring practices on the basis of sexual orientation.

    After the Washington Post's story broke, the administration moved into denial mode, the Salvation Army backtracked, and congressional opponents of the initiative were furious. Salvation ArmyGate was one reason Bush's faith-based initiative languished legislatively on Capitol Hill for more than three years.

    In retrospect, it appears that the Salvation Army didn't need any special exemption to discriminate against its employees. According to the New York Times, the plaintiffs are charging the Salvation Army's New York division of coercing them into "sign[ing] forms revealing the churches they had attended over the past 10 years, name their ministers and agree to the Army's mission 'to preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ.'" Some litigants claimed they were let go "after years of working in secular jobs when they objected to signing the forms. "Others," the Times reported, "said the new religious focus violated the social workers' ethics code and could have chilling effect on their work... for example, preventing them from giving condoms to people infected with H.I.V. or forbidding abortion counseling."

    Responding to the suit, the Salvation Army said in a statement that it was "reviewing the issues outlined in the complaint and look[ing] forward to responding openly about our work and our employment practices as they relate to The Salvation Army's Mission." The organization pointed out that its "policies and procedures were entirely consistent" with laws governing the employment practices of religious institutions. "In the past," the New York Times reported, "local Salvation Army officials said that the forms had long been in use around the country and that their policies were permitted under terms of contracts with New York City and New York State. No employees are forced to uphold church beliefs unless they are in a position of ministry, they have said."

    According to Family News in Focus, an online news service of Dr. James Dobson's Christian-based organization, Focus on the Family, in September, the Salvation Army "began... to require that employees acknowledge and support the religious mission of the Army -- which is to preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Employees in the social services and child-welfare programs are also required to identify their church affiliation, going back a decade."

    That date runs parallel to the issuance of a position paper on a concept called "religious hiring rights" by the administration. In "Protecting the Civil Rights and Religious Liberty of Faith-Based Organizations: Why Religious Hiring Rights Must Be Preserved," Team Bush argued that religious organizations receiving government grants retained the right to hire anyone they pleased, based on whatever criteria is in concert with their organization's religious mission.

    Several pieces of legislation with "religious hiring rights" provisions were under consideration by Congress last year including "The School Readiness Act of 2003," H.R. 2210, which allows religious organizations receiving government funds for providing Head Start services to discriminate in their hiring practices, and the $4 billion Workforce Reinvestment and Adult Education Act, which passed the House on a 220-204 vote.

    In early February, a few days after the Bush White House issued a "Statement of Administration Policy" calling on the House to defeat any amendments to the Community Services Block Grants Act, H.R. 3030, requiring faith-based agencies receiving federal funding to comply with federal civil rights standards, and threatening a veto of any bill amended to prohibit discrimination by faith-based agencies funded by American taxpayers, the House defeated three Democratic-sponsored provisions.

    Michael Cromartie, vice president of the Ethics and Public Policy Center, indicated that he thought the employee suit was an attempt to ratchet up the fight against federal dollars going to faith-based groups. "There is a caveat written into the law that an organization that is religious cannot lose its religious identity if it accepts federal funding," Cromartie told Family News in Focus.

    However, as Arthur Eisenberg, legal director for the New York Civil Liberties Union, pointed out: "For years, The Salvation Army has run these programs very successfully without injecting religion into the workplace. Religion is irrelevant to the success of these programs and it should remain so."

    For more please see the Bill Berkowitz archive.

    Bill Berkowitz is a longtime observer of the conservative movement. His Working ForChange column Conservative Watch documents the strategies, players, institutions, victories and defeats of the American Right.
    According to Reuters, the Salvation Army Greater New York Division receives $89 million a year in taxpayer money.

    (c) 2004 Working Assets Online. All rights reserved

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 11 Nov 04 - 11:10 AM

    This UPI story was linked to from my Internet Provider's front page:

      Pregnant baboon bumped to later flight
      November 11, 2004 09:32 AM EST

      HOUSTON, Nov 11, 2004 (United Press International via COMTEX) -- A pregnant baboon escaped while being loaded onto a jetliner at Bush Intercontinental Airport in Houston, the Houston Chronicle reported Thursday. The animal was among primates being shipped to a zoo in the San Francisco area when she got out of a cage and ran from the Continental Airlines plane.

      "They were going to load her cage into the belly of the plane with the other animals," said Houston airport system spokesman Roger Smith. "In the process of loading, the door came open and she escaped."

      The baboon climbed into the rafters below an elevated terminal concourse but never got into a passenger area, Smith said. Airport workers were able to contain her, and Houston animal control specialists called to help took special precautions because of her pregnancy were able to subdue her. She was put back into her cage but had to wait for a later flight, as the other primates had already left.

    When I read the headline I thought there was going to be some sort of "all species treated equal" story about heavy Americans forcing airlines to use more fuel to get the planes up in the air. i.e., perhaps they would start by bumping fat animals and then move up to bumping heavy people.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Paco Rabanne
    Date: 11 Nov 04 - 11:36 AM


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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Paco Rabanne
    Date: 11 Nov 04 - 11:36 AM

    100 I thank you.    ted - 1
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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 11 Nov 04 - 11:51 AM

    Such a valuable contribution to our ongoing discussion of topical news stories, super ted. Here's a story just for you:

      Counting All the Time

      One, three, six, ten .... not being able to focus on anything but counting has really concerned me lately. Why do I do this, and what causes it? Counting has become an everyday, normal part of my life. I do not just count numbers, I also group them and add them up in my head. In school I usually count and add the numbers on a clock, or I group and add the number of people in my class. In a car, I count the numbers on license plates, the letters on billboards, even the white dashes on the interstate.

      My problem became clear to me two years ago while watching "Dateline." I discovered I am not the only person with this problem, and that it has a name: Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD).

      OCD is an anxiety disorder that may have genetic origins and is believed to be caused by an imbalance of

      serotonin in the brain. Serotonin is a chemical that acts as a messenger between the orbital cortex (the front part of the brain) and the basal ganglia (deeper structures of the brain). When the serotonin levels are unbalanced, messages that go from one part of the brain to another get messed up, resulting in repetitive thoughts. These intrusive impulses are called obsessions, and they drive people with OCD to act out time-consuming rituals or habits known as compulsions.

      My time-consuming rituals finally had a name and reason. My counting was not because I was insane, but because of a chemical imbalance in my brain.

      People suffer from different types of OCD. Obsessions are thoughts, images or impulses that occur over and over again out of a person's control. They feel disturbing and intrusive, and a person usually recognizes that they do not make sense. Excessive worries about dirt and germs and being obsessed with the idea that they are contaminated, or may contaminate others, are major concerns of someone with OCD. They may also have obsessive fears of having accidentally harmed someone, even though they usually know this is not true. Obsessions are accompanied by uncomfortable feelings such as fear, disgust, doubt or a sensation that things have to be done "just so."

      People with OCD typically try to make their obsessions go away by performing compulsions. About 90 percent of those with OCD have both obsessions and compulsions. Compulsions are acts a person performs over and over again, often according to certain "rules." Each person has their own set they follow. For example, someone with an obsession about contamination may wash their hands until they become raw or even bleed. A person may count objects over and over because of an obsession about losing them.

      Counting is one compulsive disorder, others are washing, touching, arranging, hoarding, saving and praying. While my compulsive disorder, counting, seems to have a reason - an obsession - I am not sure what my obsession is, because the fear of losing something is not my problem.

      Oh, wait - as I write this, my

      obsession has become clear to me! I have an obsession with even numbers. I count and add all the time to get even sums. To me, even numbers are the only ones that are "real." I cannot stand odd numbers; they almost terrify me. This is going to sound really weird, but odd numbers do not have friends, and even numbers do. At some time I must have felt I needed the comfort of knowing someone was always there for me.

      This problem must have started with my parents' divorce; they split up when I was in first grade and I started counting soon after. It is estimated that one million children and adolescents in the United States suffer from OCD, which could mean three to five children with OCD per average-sized elementary school and about 20 teenagers in a large high school.

      Treatments for OCD vary. It can be treated with a mild anti-depressant, and behavior therapy is effective, too. A combination of these two helps most sufferers find relief.

      When I first realized I had OCD, I did not think it was that bad, but then I started recalling everything I count. I amazed myself; not only do I count people, letters and numbers, but also pictures on the wall, windows in my house, chairs at a table, doors in a building, lights in a room, icons on a computer screen. The list goes on and on. You would think doing this must exhaust me, but the truth is I barely notice. I will be in the middle of counting something, and realize, Oh, I'm counting again.

      I'm debating treatment. It is scary to think that counting and adding are not normal. If I were to get treatment I would have a lot more time to concentrate on more important subjects. I guess I will just have to wait and see what feels right.

    And here's a bonus, an article on "Overriding Obsession: Thought Control" from the BBC online.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 12 Nov 04 - 10:32 PM

    Here's one that might impact a few 'catters:

    AOL Tells Customers to Find New Carrier

    November 12, 2004 10:45 AM EST

    DULLES, Va. - America Online, which earlier this year stopped signing up new broadband customers, is telling existing broadband subscribers in nine Southern states that they must find a new broadband carrier by Jan. 17.

    Those customers who do not switch to a new broadband carrier by that date will have their accounts revert to AOL's traditional dialup service, said AOL spokeswoman Anne Bentley.

    The company has been e-mailing its customers in those nine states that they can switch to high-speed broadband service offered by BellSouth Corp. for a special promotional rate.

    Most of AOL's 23 million subscribers receive standard dialup service for $24 a month. The company will not disclose how many customers still receive the $54 monthly broadband service, which Bentley acknowledged is relatively expensive compared to other broadband pricing packages now available to consumers.

    Bentley said she expects AOL will phase out existing broadband customers in the rest of the country in a similar manner over the next year.

    The affected states are Florida, Kentucky, Georgia, Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi, Tennessee, North Carolina and South Carolina.

    America Online is a unit of Time Warner Inc.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 18 Nov 04 - 12:27 PM

    Here is an interestingly whimsical photo, of a protest in Seattle over not reducing the budget to deal with street trees.


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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 18 Nov 04 - 12:36 PM

    Still going through the P.I. photos. The photo credit says "A deer chews on a rope that became tangled in its antlers as it wanders a backyard in Petersburg, Alaska. (AP Photo/ Petersburg Pilot, Klas Stolpe) (November 17, 2004)"

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    From: The Fooles Troupe
    Date: 26 Nov 04 - 09:22 AM

    Apology as schools get porn emails - National -

    Apology as schools get porn emails
    By Les Kennedy
    November 26, 2004

    When principals at five NSW primary schools received confidential emails from police seeking to identify three girls at risk, the images they unlocked showed the girls in explicit poses and an unidentified man having sexual intercourse with one of the girls.

    The Child Protection and Sex Crimes Squad sent photographs of the girls, aged between 4 and 8, to 1800 principals on Wednesday. The photos were meant to be only head shots.

    By 11.30am yesterday five principals had complained to police that they had received full pornographic images of the girls.

    "I can only imagine that they would have been horrified by them," the head of the State Crime Command, which incorporates the squad, Assistant Commissioner Graeme Morgan, said in a public apology to the principals and any other school heads who saw the full images.

    The bungle was attributed to a combination of human error and older computer systems at some schools that were incompatible with police computer software.

    Mr Morgan said the officer involved in the bungle was unlikely to be disciplined, although an inquiry was being conducted and measures were being taken to prevent it happening again. He said the photos were not related to any arrests made under Operation Auxin, the nationwide swoop on internet child pornography users. Mr Morgan said 80 per cent of principals had received the photos without problem and police had asked that the files be deleted.

    The decision to seek help from principals followed police consultations with Education Department lawyers after a 30-year-old man was arrested in Cessnock last week with the photos. The man, who will appear in Cessnock Court on December 15 charged with possessing child pornography, allegedly told police he received the photos as internet spam from an associate whom police have yet to locate. Mr Morgan said there was nothing to indicate the girls were from NSW or Australia, but Cessnock police had asked the child protection squad to help locate them.

    Meanwhile, Warren John Daines, 50, who was to have been sentenced yesterday as the first of 47 NSW men charged under Operation Auxin with possessing internet child pornography, has had his case adjourned to February 18. Daines, a company director of Quakers Hill, pleaded guilty in Blacktown Court last month to possessing child pornography.

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    From: The Fooles Troupe
    Date: 26 Nov 04 - 10:08 AM

    Aid threatened as US fights war crimes court - World -

    Aid threatened as US fights war crimes court
    By Colum Lynch in New York
    November 27, 2004

    The Republican-controlled US Congress has stepped up its campaign to curtail the power of the International Criminal Court by threatening to cut hundreds of millions of dollars in economic aid to governments that refuse to sign immunity accords that shield US personnel from being surrendered to the tribunal.

    The move marks an escalation in US efforts to ensure that the first world criminal court can never judge US citizens for crimes committed overseas.

    More than two years ago Congress passed the American Servicemembers' Protection Act, which cut millions of dollars in military assistance to many countries that would not sign the Article 98 agreements, as they are known, that undertake not to transfer to the court US nationals accused of war crimes.

    A provision inserted into a $US338 billion ($425 billion) government spending bill for next year would bar the transfer of assistance money from the $US2.5 billon economic support fund to a government "that is a party" to the criminal court but "has not entered into an agreement with the United States" to bar legal proceedings against US personnel. Legislators are to vote on the budget on December 8.

    Congress's action may affect US development programs designed to promote peace, combat drug trafficking, and promote democracy and economic reforms in poor countries.

    The legislation includes a national security waiver that would allow President George Bush to exempt members of NATO and other key allies, including Australia, Egypt, Israel, Japan, Jordan, Argentina, South Korea, New Zealand or Taiwan. The waiver was added after the State Department raised concern the cuts could undermine programs that advance US foreign policy.

    The criminal court was established by treaty in 1998 to prosecute perpetrators of the most serious crimes, including genocide, war crimes and crimes against humanity. The treaty has been signed by 139 countries and ratified by 97.

    The Clinton administration signed the treaty in December 2000, but the Bush Administration renounced it in May 2001. It says it fears that an international prosecutor might conduct frivolous investigations and trials against US officials, troops and foreign nationals sent overseas on behalf of the US.

    "This is a body based in The Hague where unaccountable judges and prosecutors could pull our troops, our diplomats up for trial," Mr Bush said in his first re-election campaign debate with Senator John Kerry.

    Washington's important European allies, including Britain, France and Germany, have opposed the US move on the grounds that it undermines the treaty.

    The court's advocates say the tribunal was created to hold future despots in the ranks of Adolf Hitler, Pol Pot and Idi Amin accountable for mass killings.

    The Washington Post

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: The Fooles Troupe
    Date: 26 Nov 04 - 10:11 AM

    Robin Hood duo aims to sink Coke, return profits
    By Paul Marinko in London
    November 27, 2004

    An anti-capitalist former stockbroker and the son of Sir James Goldsmith have launched an audacious attempt to halve the value of shares in The Coca-Cola Co, the worldwide Coke parent based in Florida.

    Radical activist Max Keiser has joined forces with the editor of The Ecologist magazine, Zak Goldsmith, to launch a hedge fund that will donate the profits from short-selling Coke's shares to the "victims of Coke's business model in places like India and Colombia".

    The idea is that, as a boycott spreads, the money in the fund will increase as shares in the company drop.

    Mr Keiser, founder of activist website, believes the stunt will reduce Coca-Cola shares from their current value of $US41 to $US22. The campaign says it will "commit to as much money as it takes to take down Coke", but Mr Keiser refused to say whether the son of the late billionaire had invested any money of his own in the project. He said Mr Goldsmith's role in the campaign was to promote it in his magazine. Mr Goldsmith was unavailable for comment.

    Mr Keiser said the hedge fund already had "several hundred thousand dollars" in it despite not yet being listed, and he was approaching several big banking figures, including George Soros, to increase the value.

    The high-risk strategy would see the hedge fund borrow shares in Coke from a broker and sell them at less than their market value, gambling on them dropping in value thanks to the boycott. It would then buy them back at less than it sold them for and pocket the difference before handing them back to the broker. But if the value of the stock goes up, the hedge fund will lose money.

    Any profit made would be ploughed into supporting communities around the world which investors felt had suffered at the hands of Coca-Cola.

    As Coca-Cola is one of the world's largest corporations, valued at about $US95 billion, the attempt is unlikely to succeed. But Mr Keiser remained optimistic. "There's a general anti-American feeling out there which is growing all over the world," he said. "People now associate Coke's brand with the American brand and they are rejecting it across the globe. The company has never been more vulnerable."

    No one at Coca-Cola was available to comment due to the Thanksgiving holiday.

    Previous boycotts of major companies have had mixed results. Success stories include Barclays Bank deciding to pull out of apartheid South Africa in 1986 after a campaign halved the bank's share of student accounts. Greenpeace managed to slash Shell's pump sales with a boycott over plans to dump the Brent Spar oil platform in the Atlantic.

    But the Baby Milk Action Group's boycott of Nestle has failed to damage the company in nearly 25 years. Likewise, it was not the Burma Campaign's boycott attempts of British American Tobacco that forced the cigarette company out of the country but pressure from the Blair Government.

    The Guardian

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 28 Nov 04 - 03:44 PM

    Here are a couple of interesting articles to do with privacy and protecting yourself from identity theft. After reading these, and feeling virtuous for not carrying my social security card, I had a thought and went through my wallet. No less than four other cards used my SSN as my ID. So I've removed them and will request that each of these accounts give me a unique account number not tied to my SSN.

    Too many carry Social Security cards

    NEW YORK, NY, Nov. 27 (UPI) -- An American Express study found U.S. consumers have a lot to learn about how to protect themselves against identity theft.

    While 77 percent of those who participated said they take precautions to secure their personal financial information, but nearly half still make the mistake of carrying their Social Security numbers in their wallet, American Express officials said in a statement.

    Experts warn that Social Security numbers are the ultimate prize for criminals.

    One consumer had a $32,000 truck, a pricey apartment and a cell phone charged in her name without even having her wallet stolen -- a thief stole her personal information from a real estate application and racked up $50,000 in debt.

    (follow the link for the rest)

    Safeguard your Social Security number

    Protect yourself from identity theft by keeping a tight rein on your Social Security number. Only a few organizations have the right to demand it. Here's how to fend off the rest.

    "I think it's spooky. Everybody has that one number, and everything about you is tied to it," worries Jim Edwards, program director at WJNO in West Palm Beach, Fla.

    "Put it in a computer and poof -- here's your bank account, your phone number, where you work."

    The key to all that private information? Your Social Security number.

    Edwards was way ahead of most people. Back in the early '80s, he refused to give his Social Security number when he enrolled at Miami Dade Community College. The school wanted to use it as a student identification number, but Edwards held his ground and the school gave him a different number -- all zeros, as he recalls.

    Today, schools, phone companies, utilities, health clubs, insurance companies, video stores -- just about everybody wants your Social Security number. Some of the more prevalent uses are to get your credit rating and determine whether you pay your bills, and to keep track of you through name and address changes.


    Who has the right to ask for your digits?

    While any business can ask for your Social Security number, there are very few entities that can actually demand it -- motor vehicle departments, tax departments and welfare departments, for example. Also, SSNs are required for transactions involving taxes, so that means banks, brokerages, employers, and the like also have a legitimate need for your SSN.

    Most other businesses have no legal right to demand your number.

    "There is no law prohibiting a business from asking for your Social Security number, but people don't know they can say no," says Carolyn Cheezum of the Social Security Administration.

    (follow the link for the rest)


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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: The Fooles Troupe
    Date: 28 Nov 04 - 08:00 PM

    Porn Prohibitionists Miss Point
    By Regina Lynn,1284,65831,00.html

    All week I've been thinking about the recent "porn is heroin" hearing, which concluded that porn bypasses the cognitive speechmaking part of the brain, turns men into rapists and -- my favorite -- releases damaging "erototoxins" into the bloodstream.

    The stated point of the hearing was to determine whether Congress should fund studies about the effects of pornography addiction on families and communities, and whether it should launch a public health campaign to warn people of the dangers of online porn.

    If it's going to spend money in this arena at all, I'd rather Congress fund studies about the effects of pornography in general, including its effect on the economy, on technological innovation, on sexual function and dysfunction, and so on. Even the anti-porn panelists who testified before Sen. Sam Brownback (R-Kansas) admitted the dearth of such studies.

    I would hate to see anyone confuse "addiction to porn" with "existence of porn" and pursue a study about addiction without establishing a base line for normal use. Porn did not become a billion-dollar industry on addiction alone.

    Porn addiction -- which I define as an overwhelming compulsion to watch porn, such that viewing porn becomes your top priority, taking precedence over work and family -- is certainly a cause for concern and possibly intervention.

    Yet like any addiction, when the substance in question is relatively harmless to most people, as porn seems to be, criminalizing that substance backfires. Porn, like alcohol, is an indulgence that I suspect the vast majority of people enjoy in moderation, in small doses or not at all.

    And porn, like alcohol, is meant to be a treat for adults. In fact, everyone I've spoken within the adult industry also supports the separation of children and adult content -- that's why it's called adult content.

    The panel's concern that the internet makes pornography much more available to children than it was in the good ol' days of the printing press is a valid one. I have no objection to increasing our efforts to educate adults in how they can keep pornography away from children, or to developing better content filters, age-validation tactics and other yet-to-be-invented technologies that would make it almost impossible for kids to find porn online.

    If nothing else, just think of the pool of brilliant problem-solvers we'll create, and the security experts that will arise out of a generation of Sneakers.

    As a whole, however, the witnesses in this particular hearing fail to inspire my confidence. While some of their concerns make sense -- I mean, really, who could argue that addiction is healthy or that young children should view sexual imagery? -- some of their examples expose the shaky foundation beneath their case.

    To wit: Psychiatrist Jeffrey Satinover claims that porn "causes masturbation."

    What's so bad about masturbation? We're born sexual beings -- even infants masturbate, long before they can say "free porn," much less Google it. Given the other challenges we're facing, from the war in Iraq to the 30 percent of American children living in poverty, autoeroticism is hardly high on the list of threats to families or society. I'd hate to have to replace it with macramé just because a handful of people can't stand the thought that I might be taking longer showers than they deem necessary.

    And it wouldn't hurt certain people to let go of their obsessive guilt and add this simple pleasure to their daily routine.

    Dr. Mary Anne Layden states that "the myth that women are sexually aroused by engaging in behaviors that are actually sexually pleasuring to men is a particularly narcissistic invention of the pornography industry."

    What? I'm plenty aroused by fellatio and other "behaviors" that are "pleasuring to men." That's why I'm fun in bed, even though I may inadvertently be proving her point, as my delight in such activities is a result of the healing power of cybersex. (Cybersex did more to help me overcome childhood sexual trauma than two years of therapy. But that's another column.)

    And then Dr. Judith Reisman says that police always find pornography when searching the homes of rapists and pedophiles, and suggests that porn consumption leads to crime.

    I'm more inclined to believe that poverty, disenfranchisement, desperation, racism, child abuse, ignorance and gang mentality contribute more to serious crimes than pornography does. I also suspect that almost everyone, especially males, keeps a stash of adult content somewhere. I have a small cache myself. But of course most of us aren't subject to police searches, and therefore our collections remain private.

    It seems to me that if Congress were to fund an in-depth, scientifically valid, nonpartisan study on porn's role in society, we could lay this question to rest. Then the porn prohibitionists would have to stop inventing scare tactics to support their agenda. They'll either be proven right, which they won't be, or they'll be exposed for the meddling, big-government proponents they are.

    Now, where can I get those erototoxins?

    See you next Friday,

    Regina Lynn

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 29 Nov 04 - 01:29 PM

    She has the right idea!

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Amos
    Date: 29 Nov 04 - 06:11 PM

    Every home in which a pedophile has been found has been likewise found to contain food and bathroom fixtures. This proves beyond all reasonable doubt that eating and defecating lead inexorpabl;y to child abuse.


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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 29 Nov 04 - 11:54 PM

    This is only scratching the surface, Amos. Those homes also have doors, windows, a roof, furniture, and frequently, a television and radio. To cherry-pick evidence the way described in the article is to force your evidence to fit your hypothesis, without checking out the field first and seeing what all of the commonalities are.


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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Amos
    Date: 30 Nov 04 - 12:05 AM

    Okay, maybe it is that windows cause pedophilia, huh? That woukld give Bill Gates a lot to answer for, wouldn't it? Huh? Huh?

    I know that seems clownish but there are people out there whose logical capacity is actually on that order.


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    From: Acme
    Date: 16 Dec 04 - 10:36 AM

    The Herald - Everett, Wash. -
    Published: Thursday, December 16, 2004

    Horrific crash kills 1; heroism saves 4 lives
    Vehicle crosses I-5 median near Smokey Point

    By Diana Hefley and Katherine Schiffner
    Herald Writers

    SMOKEY POINT - A woman was killed and seven other people were injured in a fiery crash that closed northbound I-5 for more than three hours on Wednesday. Crews clean up after Wednesday's fatal crash on northbound I-5 near Smokey Point. The freeway was closed for more than three hours, and traffic backed up to Everett. Police and firefighters called it one of the worst crashes they had ever seen. It snarled traffic well into the evening.

    "It looked like a house fire in the middle of the freeway," said Nathan Trauernicht, spokesman for the Marysville Fire Department. The crash brought out heroes such as a truck driver who police credited with saving the lives of four people at the scene.

    The three-vehicle wreck happened about 1:30 p.m. just south of 172nd Street NE when a Ford Explorer southbound on I-5 near Smokey Point crossed the grass median into the northbound lanes, colliding with a Chevrolet Suburban, Toyota Tundra and a Mercedes Benz sport utility vehicle in the far right lane, Washington State Patrol Trooper Lance Ramsay said.

    The Toyota and Ford Explorer caught fire after the crash, sending plumes of black smoke into the air. A woman inside the Suburban was killed, the State Patrol said. Firefighters had to use the Jaws of Life to free two other people from the Suburban. They were airlifted to Harborview Medical Center in Seattle with life-threatening injuries, Trauernicht said.

    Martha Holschen, 47, of Bothell, the Suburban driver, was still being evaluated at Harborview late Wednesday and her condition was not known, a nursing supervisor said. Holschen's passengers, Keegan Holschen, 9, and Jake Holschen, 12, were in stable condition at Providence Everett Medical Center's Colby campus, a nursing supervisor said. Another passenger in Holschen's vehicle was not identified. The driver of the Ford Explorer, Juliann Odom, 22, of Bellevue was in satisfactory condition Wednesday night at Harborview, the nursing supervisor said.

    Police and firefighters saluted bystanders who stopped to help prevent other deaths. Trucker Jim Swett realized the Suburban had to be moved before it caught fire, too, killing the people trapped inside. "It was hot, hot. It feels like I have a sunburn," Swett said. "We were afraid the gas tank would blow." The Suburban was so close to the burning pickup and Explorer that the heat melted a window and taillights. Swett, 68, and others hooked up a towing strap to his semitruck and dragged the Suburban away from the flames.

    Swett "saved four lives," Ramsay said.

    Bystanders also broke out a window to rescue a woman inside one of the burning vehicles, and used a crowbar to break open a door to rescue two children inside the Suburban, said Swett, who was on his way home to Sedro-Woolley. Two redheaded girls in the Suburban reminded him of his grandson, who died in a car crash about four years ago, he said. "It brought back a lot of memories. My grandson was a redhead, too," Swett said. "It was great to be able to help."

    Swett said he wasn't the only one who came to the rescue. "It was a bunch of good, hard-working people who made the effort," he said. "It makes you feel good that there are people out there to help."

    The northbound lanes of the freeway were shut down from 88th Street SE in Marysville to Smokey Point for more than three hours. Traffic was backed up for miles into Everett during the afternoon commute. "We were stuck in it forever," said Amy James, 24, of Everett.

    James and a friend were driving from Marysville to Smokey Point. The trip normally takes 10 minutes, but on Wednesday it lasted two hours. Two lanes of I-5 north reopened about three hours after the accident. It could be weeks before troopers know what caused the crash, Ramsay said.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Amos
    Date: 16 Dec 04 - 06:42 PM

    Thanks, SRS -- it restores me faith in humanity (but not in SUVs!!)


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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 17 Dec 04 - 10:34 AM

    Here's a little bit more about that. They haven't been able to speak to the driver of the Explorer yet, due to her injuries.

    Published: Friday, December 17, 2004
    Many helped, hero says
    For truck driver Jim Swett, saving four people in a destroyed Suburban brought back memories of his late grandson.

    By Yoshiaki Nohara, Herald Writer

    Children could be heard crying from inside the wreckage. Flames were licking the mangled cars. Plumes of acrid smoke filled the air. Amid that chaos along I-5 near Smokey Point on Wednesday afternoon, about a dozen strangers came together to save four lives. "It wasn't just me. It was everybody," said Jim Swett, 68, a truck driver from Sedro-Woolley. The rescue was personal for Swett. He pried open a door on the destroyed Chevrolet Suburban. In the back seat were two children. Both had red hair.

    "We knew we did everything we could do to help those people," says Jim Swett, 68, who was one of the first to help at Wednesday's fatal accident on I-5. Swett said his mind instantly went to the memory of his grandson Brandon, who died in a rollover accident four years ago in Whidbey Island. The 15-year-old boy had red hair, too. He stood 6 feet, 1 inch. He was a bundle of energy. His death left a hole in Swett's family. He would have given anything to be there to save him.

    On Wednesday, the Sedro-Woolley man helped scoop the crying children from the Suburban. But Swett insisted Thursday that he wasn't the only hero. An off-duty firefighter hooked a towing rope to the Suburban. Others brought blankets and coats to warm the injured pulled from the four-vehicle wreck.

    'Get me out of here!'

    Swett was heading north on I-5 toward home. It was around 1 p.m. and he'd just delivered flowers and plants to a Woodinville nursery. Near the Smokey Point exit ramp, Swett saw a few cars engulfed in flames and smoke. Immediately, he pulled into the center lane and put on his hazard lights. Swett, who wore a blue T-shirt and sweat pants, grabbed a crowbar and a fire extinguisher, and jumped out of the truck. With a few men, Swett rushed to a burning car. He smashed the window with the crowbar, and they got a wounded woman out of the driver's seat. "She was screaming, 'Get me out of here!'" Swett recalled.

    Then, they rushed to the crumpled Chevrolet Suburban with five people trapped inside. A woman in the passenger's seat was dead. He heard two children crying in the back seat. Swett used the crowbar to pry open the door to help the children. He doesn't remember whether they were boys or girls - (it was two boys, 9 and 12) - but their red hair caught his eyes. Swett took one of them in his arms, memories of his grandson rushing through his mind. By the time he and others rescued both boys, flames from another car threatened to spread to the Suburban. There were still two people trapped alive in the wreck. "We were so afraid the gas tank would blow," he said.

    An off-duty firefighter at the scene helped Swett tie a rope to the Suburban and to Swett's truck, to pull the wreck away from the flames. Other people emerged from their stopped cars. Swett figures there were at least a dozen, some carrying blankets, others carrying coats. They wrapped the victims up, protecting them from the cold and shock. "None of us were thinking of us," Swett said.

    Firefighters and paramedics arrived and took over, bringing hope and relief to the onlookers. "We knew we did everything we could do to help those people," he said.

    Calm in a crisis

    Swett drove back to Sedro-Woolley around 5:30 p.m. He and his wife, Jean, live on Brandon Lane, a private road named after their grandson. Soon, family, friends and TV news reporters made their way to his door to hear his story. Jean Swett said that in their 48 years of marriage her husband always has been someone who can stay calm in a crisis, identify what needs to be done, and do it. "It doesn't surprise me he did what he did," she said. Her husband was so focused at the accident scene that he didn't realize his arms had been burned by the heat from the fires until his took a bath in the evening.

    Swett couldn't be there for Brandon four years ago. But he was there - along with a dozen others - for the Holschen family, when they needed help.

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    From: Nick
    Date: 17 Dec 04 - 11:17 AM

    Club Bans Oxygen Cylinder Woman

    By Pat Hurst, PA

    A pensioner who needs an oxygen cylinder to breathe has been banned from her local Royal British Legion because she has been declared a fire hazard.

    Gillian Western, 66, has been told her life-saving cylinder is too dangerous because she is a smoker and it could explode if flames mix with the oxygen.

    Mrs Western, who lives round the corner from the club, is now house-bound after the branch in Heswall, on the Wirral, told her not to come back.

    Wheelchair-user Mrs Western, suffers from chronic bronchial asthma and must take the oxygen with her at all times.

    She said: "I have been a member for more than 25 years and have been going in there with the cylinder for two years.

    "I think they are just being petty.

    "They rang my carer and said, 'By the way we don't want Gill coming in with her oxygen cylinder.' They said it was too dangerous.

    "It's not very nice considering I was on the committee."

    Mrs Western used to be pushed to the club by her carer to meet friends and watch Liverpool football games on TV.

    She has tried going to a local pub but said does not enjoy it and the ban has left her virtually house-bound.

    "I like it there, it is nice and cosy and all my friends go in there," she added.

    Jeff Harrison, county field officer for the Royal British Legion in Cheshire said it was the committee's decision on how they run the club.

    He added, "Mrs Western, I understand needs to use oxygen. There is a health and safety difficulty because of smoking. Therefore they have asked her to keep out. It's as simple as that."

    The club could not be contacted through telephone calls today.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: kindaloupehackenweez
    Date: 17 Dec 04 - 02:57 PM

    Dear Abbey. Dear Abbey
    My feet are too long, My hairs falling out and my rights are all wrong..John Prine

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 17 Dec 04 - 04:15 PM

    Maybe this story will get enough attention that they ban smoking in the club--then she wouldn't be at risk of exploding. Might serve them right!


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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: kindaloupehackenweez
    Date: 18 Dec 04 - 03:08 PM

    I am hoping that i am not out of line here by just putting in lyrics of a song that this thread reminds me of.. I do not mean to be rude or disrespectful of the thread or of the people (and and all) of mudcat. I have over stepped my bounds in a couple of threads which has caused myself great embrassment and shame for which i dont ever want to feel again.. For i am new i dont know ya all nor you me. I just jumped in. Like i did in the deep end of the swimming pool in grade school..Thank God for life guards. Anyway to explain as to why and what i do here is because this threads name. John Prine said on one of his albums that when he was in Italy someone brought him a newspaper. The only one in that place, That was in english, which inspired him to write the song "Dear Abby" Which i played for many years. Until (here's the 3rd and 4th line to the previous 1st 2 lines from last week)

    My friends they all tell me there no friends at all,

    Wont you write me a letter, wont you give me a call,

    signed bewildered...(To be contiued???You decide>>)

    But in the name of "Fair Game" The town i live has two weekly papers one on wednesday and the other saturday. And i just pulled it out of the box while getting back from doing laundry. Heres a headliner,
    From the "Park Rapids Enterprise" Sat. Dec, 18 2004.

              "County board deems EIS unnecessary" along with
              "Film will document impact of ATV's"
              "City authorizes study for airport businesses"
              "Midwest and Norway have similar Christmas traditions"
    Huh no head liners concerning Meth Bust. Finally. For furture interest if any in the paper just do the www.park rapids thing and you'll be checking it out first hand.

       Once again i apoligize for last weeks "Head up my ass moments" and conducting myself in undignafide of Mudcat stature. I love this place and dont want to be exsiled. I;m sorry for i do know better.
    and there is no excuse. I know my place know and hope to get to know more of ya all in the up comming weeks that im off from work. For work is all i have up till i was introduced to mudcat..Its nice to have a place to go when you get off work or when i get up in the morning> Heck its hard to stay away..I just hope i didnt blow it..
    Damit I know i phucked up. I was wrong, I am wrong alot, I havent the wizdom nor the wit i thought i did.. all i can do is make amends and ask for forgiveness....And give you my word not to step out of line again..I have a hard time believing any of you cats can be more disapointed in me than i am of myself..I could of stayed away;(Maybe)
    but that wouldnt be right. I did wrong and must if possible make it write. I'll have time these next two weeks to get to know more of ya.,Thats if anyone still wants to get to know me for i dont blame them either. I was a jerk off, I',m better now. Thank you for your time and space....Later..Peace..Love ya's Dont know ya's but love ya's anyway.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 22 Dec 04 - 11:12 AM

    Here's a story with a bit of a self-interest link: I used to work at Ellis Island as an interpreter with the Park Service, and I met Tom (subject of this article) there. I helped him get this latest printing of the book off the ground, because after 9-11 he was in a hard spot as far as finding a printer. I'm putting the whole thing here because the paper's archive is free for only two weeks, then you have to pay to read it so a link alone won't work.
    The temporary link

    Worldly flavors of Ellis Island book will whet your appetite
    Author pays tribute to past with immigrants' recipes, stories
    Wednesday, December 22, 2004
    By Sonia Andresson-Nolasco, [Jersey] Journal staff writer

    Today, it is unlikely that someone wouldn't know how to eat a banana. But in the early 1900s, when so many newcomers to the Americas set foot on Ellis Island for the first time, the pale yellow fruit, like so many other foods, was an enigma.

    "We didn't even know how to eat a banana," said Tom Bernardin, reciting the phrase he often heard uttered by immigrants who had passed through Ellis Island.

    Bernardin, 56, the author of the "Ellis Island Immigrant Cookbook," and a former Ellis Island interpreter, met many of these immigrants in the mid-1980s while presenting a slide lecture he developed, "Ellis Island - The Golden Door," at senior citizen centers and nursing homes.

    Most of the immigrants he met, then in their 80s, had come through Ellis Island in the early 1900s.

    "(The book gives) people a sense of importance of family, memory, tradition, hope, and respect for their past and admiration for these people," said Bernardin, who has done a lot more cooking since publishing the book. One of his favorite recipes is a Polish honey cake.

    Though some immigrants cooked with olive oil, and others with curry or soy sauce, noting the different ingredients used isn't the only aim of Bernardin's book. With 272 pages of recipes and family stories of people from 30 different countries, the book also illustrates the comfort and connection that food provides and demonstrates how food can make connections to the past.

    "If you draw a circle to show what we all have in common, we all needed to eat. I wanted to use food to tell the Ellis Island story," he said.

    It's the scents and flavors of the foods, passed down from generation to generation, that resurrect a person, place and time. As the new year approaches, Bernardin's book offers a simple way to summon the past.

    The book's plain cover, showing the back of a modestly dressed woman with a child over her shoulder - an image Bernardin found in his lithograph collections of immigrant images - also tells a million stories.

    "It jumped out at me. It's sentimental, sweet, and you can't see her face, so it can be anyone," he said.

    Bernardin never imagined himself working at Ellis Island, even though he had long collected Statue of Liberty memorabilia, until one day a friend suggested he apply for a job there.

    "Much has changed," he said. "The 35 original buildings were very dramatic, and had an almost haunted quality. You would arrive there and wander around. But some of the ghosts have been swept away to accommodate the people."

    It wasn't until the curators for the National Park Service at Ellis Island began gathering artifacts to reopen the Ellis Island museum following its restoration that Bernardin realized something was missing.

    And that something was food.

    Inspired by the conversations he had with seniors citizens about food at Ellis Island, Bernardin put notices in newspapers and sent out press releases, starting a national recipe search asking people to send him family recipes. As the letters poured in, Bernardin received more than just recipes. People sent all sorts of family stories, which he felt compelled to include in his book.

    And though his family didn't come to America by the way of Ellis Island, he includes two of his own family recipes: cretons, a pork recipe often used on Boston baked beans, and stuffing for pumpkin or turkey.

    Bernardin is originally from Lawrence, Mass., where his father, a French-Canadian immigrant, settled after meeting his mother, an Irish-German American, at a wedding at St. Patrick's Cathedral in New York.

    For the last 33 years Bernardin has made New York City his home, and has no plans to leave the city he finds "addictive."

    Also addictive was the full control he had over his book; something he managed to do by remaining self-published. Even though he has not been able to sell his book at mainstream bookstores, Bernardin has sold more than 73,000 copies.

    In addition to recipes, the book has immigrant portraits ranging from Italian and Russian to Swedish and Hungarian faces. Also, there are 24 entries by immigrants about food in a chapter called "Immigrant Food Memories."

    He also includes a section called, "Tips on Preserving a Family Recipe." The tips include taking notes or tape-recording discussions with family members about recipes, and videotaping the process of preparing food. There is also a model family tree and information on how to trace your family roots, plus a number of resources to begin the search.

    It took Bernardin several years to complete the cookbook and another 13 years to promote it while giving his lectures, which he still offers. The book has been featured on a number of television programs, including the History Channel's Modern Marvels and on QVC and the Food Network.

    "(People said) 'You're book inspired me to save my family recipes,'" said Bernardin, emphasizing how much this meant to him. "I didn't even know what I was doing."

    Today, Bernardin works as an independent, licensed New York City tour guide, and gives private tours of Ellis Island and other New York City landmarks.

    But launching himself as a licensed tour guide didn't come easy. Bernardin obtained his license shortly before the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001 and was forced to cancel a number of scheduled tours because of the disaster.

    Like many sectors of New York's tourism industry at the time, Bernardin's business suffered, particularly since two of his main attractions - Ellis Island and the Statue of Liberty - were closed to the public. Ellis Island did not open for three months after the attacks and the Statue of Liberty was closed until this past summer.

    Though Bernardin was unemployed following the attacks, he managed to get by with help from the Salvation Army, the American Red Cross and other charitable organizations - for which he reserves a special note of thanks in his book.

    As a way of giving something back, last Christmas Bernardin organized a food drive for St. Frances Xavier Church in New York City, and wound up helping more than 1,000 families. He has also made it a tradition to grow out his white beard and then, wearing a Santa costume, he visits bars in New York City to recruit people to help him with his drives.

    This year, he's doing a toy drive to service the Bailey House - which helps HIV-positive families.

    "This is my opportunity to give back," he said. "I dress up and run around and speak to bar managers to start these drives."

    For more information about the Ellis Island Immigrant Cookbook, visit To contact Tom Bernardin, call (212) 229-0202 or e-mail

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: The Fooles Troupe
    Date: 24 Dec 04 - 12:30 AM

    Police dog goes down taking nazi off the streets
    By Les Kennedy
    December 24, 2004

    Titan ... 18 months of service before being killed.

    White supremacist Luke Curtis thought he was unstoppable - until he met Police Dog 33, a German shepherd known to his handler as Titan.

    Curtis had told his girlfriend he would chop up two men with an axe to show her what he was really like. He then took an axe and threatened her father.

    Early on Thursday he stepped out of his home in Barbara Boulevard, Seven Hills with a carving knife in each hand ranting neo-Nazi slogans.

    The police had him surrounded and were prepared to do anything to bring him down without using bullets.

    As the 23-year-old apprentice boilermaker approached the police line that had been placed around the house seven hours earlier, officers shot him with an electric charge from a dart gun. He kept coming and kept ranting.

    Police shot him three times with a "bean bag" shot-gun.

    But Curtis kept coming, and broke through the police line, still holding the knives.

    Senior Constable Sean McDowell then set Titan on his heels. The three-year-old attack dog had served 18 months on the force and was a pet to Constable McDowell's two young children when kennelled at his home.

    Titan chased Curtis for about 50 metres before biting into his left arm and forcing him to drop one of the knives. But Curtis plunged the other blade three times into Titan's chest.

    By then police had caught up and managed to wrestle Curtis onto the road as he struggled and screamed. But the damage had been done. Titan was dying.

    The police account of the siege and Titan's role in capturing Curtis were revealed in a statement of facts read by Magistrate Jennifer Betts when Curtis appeared in Blacktown Court on Thursday charged with nine offences including abduction and aggravated cruelty to an animal.

    The Police Commissioner, Ken Moroney, said that Titan's body would be sent to a taxidermist for preservation then put on display at the NSW Police Academy.

    He also announced the creation of a Titan Memorial Award, which would be presented each year to the best handler and dog for outstanding police work.

    Ms Betts said she was alarmed at Curtis's neo-Nazi ravings and that the offence had happened while on parole for assaulting police and carrying a knife in a public place.

    "Certainly the welfare and protection of the community is paramount," she said in refusing bail and ordering Curtis to reappear in Penrith Local Court on January 14.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 24 Dec 04 - 02:00 AM

    What a nasty piece of work he is!

    Robin, your attention is required at the Mudcat Tavern. Nurse Ratched has been called for several times. Can you locate her for us, do you think? :)


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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: The Fooles Troupe
    Date: 24 Dec 04 - 06:11 AM

    Since I don't know who she really is....

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 27 Dec 04 - 01:57 AM

    This was a little "card of thanks" published on the obituary page in the Everett Herald yesterday:

      Obituary, Everett Herald, Dec. 25, 2004

      Card of Thanks

      I would like to take this time to thank everyone for all their kind words, cards, flowers and donations in my father, Floyd Wright's name, after his death on December 2nd. Life will never be the same without him. My special thanks go to all the people in Darrington who, after my mother's death in 1995, watched out for my father. Due to the fact that Darryl, Terry, and myself had long since moved to Everett, Dad became very lonely being by himself. You met him for coffee at the Red Top, you made sure he took his medicine, you invited him into your homes for dinner or drinks, and you made sure he went to see the doctor when he was sick. You all were his true friends.

      Thank you. Nowhere else could this have happened except Darrington. He loved that town and would not move to Everett and I understand why. He did not want to leave all the people that meant so much to him. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.
      Nancy (Wright) Measor

    Darrington is a tight-knit little town that didn't used to accept outsiders easily (there are stories of violent encounters). With the reengineered highway and better maintenance they're not trapped in their little mountain town each winter, but they're still good at looking out for each other. A friend of mine works as a home-health worker up there, spending a few hours a day looking out for a neighbor. I can easily imagine she or someone like her performing the necessary tasks outlined in the thank-you card.


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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 20 Jan 05 - 11:03 AM


    Woman Gives Birth to Giant Baby
    January 20, 2005 7:57 AM EST

    SAO PAULO, Brazil - A woman in northeastern Brazil has given birth to what one doctor called a "giant baby," a boy weighing 16.7 pounds.

    Francisca Ramos dos Santos, 38, gave birth to the healthy boy named Ademilton on Tuesday at a hospital in Salvador, 900 miles northeast of Sao Paulo. He was the largest baby born at the Albert Sabin Maternity Hospital in its 12-year history, the hospital said.

    "Obviously the baby was born by Caesarean section," hospital director Rita Leal said. "Both mother and baby are doing just fine."

    Ademilton "could truly be considered a giant baby, for he was born weighing what a six-month-old-baby normally weighs," pediatrician Luiz Sena Azul told the Correio da Bahia newspaper.

    Santos has four other children - ages 9, 12, 14, and 15 - who were born weighing between 7.7 pounds and 11 pounds.

    "She knew Ademilton would be a big baby, but not this big" Leal said. "She, her husband and the hospital staff were caught by surprise."

    The average weight for newborns in Brazil is 7.7 pounds for boys and 6.6 pounds for girls.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Amos
    Date: 20 Jan 05 - 12:29 PM

    16 POUNDS!?    Jaysus!!    Global warming, ya think?


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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Bert
    Date: 20 Jan 05 - 01:47 PM

    This inflation is hitting EVERYWHERE!

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 24 Jan 05 - 10:03 PM

    Posted on Mon, Jan. 24, 2005
    Panting to hear more about this one:

    Attacker left pants behind, police say

    By Aman Batheja, [Fort Worth] Star-Telegram Staff Writer

    FORT WORTH - An elderly man was beaten and robbed in his south Fort Worth apartment over the weekend by a woman who left an unusual calling card.

    Herman Green, 72, answered a knock at his door Saturday afternoon to find a woman he had never met. She asked him if he had any cigarettes. When Green said no, the woman grabbed Green's cane and beat him with it, according to a police report.

    The woman then searched Green's pockets until she found his wallet and took it, the report states.

    Before leaving the scene, the woman removed her blue jeans and left them on the floor, according to the report. The woman was wearing additional clothing underneath the jeans, the report states.

    Police are investigating the incident, described as an aggravated robbery, robbery Detective Mike Baggott said.

    Baggott said he was not ready to explain why the woman left behind her pants but surmised that she might have worn more than one pair because of cold weather.

    "Why she would take one pair off is of course not clear," Baggott said.

    Anyone with information about the robbery can call Crime Stoppers

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Amos
    Date: 24 Jan 05 - 11:29 PM

    Obviously she had something mixed up in her genes...

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: The Fooles Troupe
    Date: 25 Jan 05 - 06:31 PM

    Maybe took them off cause she thought she might have got blood on them from beating the guy?

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: GUEST,Amos
    Date: 27 Jan 05 - 09:14 AM

    Thieves prefer coffee to cars

    German detectives are hunting thieves who broke into a car showroom and stole only the coffee machine.

    Dozens of brand new Citroen cars were parked in the showroom in Bonn and the keys were on the wall.

    But the thieves ignored all the new motors, and instead unplugged and made off with the coffee machine.

    Bonn police spokesman Robert Scholten said: "The coffee machine was a pretty good one but not worth as much as a new car.

    "Staff only discovered the theft when they went to make a drink in the kitchen and realised the machine was missing."

    The showroom which was owned by the Citroen main dealer in Bonn is on the main street. Police so far have no clues as to the identity of the culprits.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: The Fooles Troupe
    Date: 28 Jan 05 - 02:06 AM

    While they were investigating this crime, somebody broke into the Police Station and stole the toilet. The Police have nothing to go on...

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: The Fooles Troupe
    Date: 28 Jan 05 - 02:14 AM

    Porn star hawks cellphone 'moan tones'


    NEW YORK - This is one cellphone you might not want to set to "High & Vibrate."

    Porn star Jenna Jameson is now hawking her "moan tones."

    For $2.50 ($NZ3.52) fans of the ubiquitous porno queen can choose from a variety of moans, grunts and lurid sexual noises all recorded by the blond bombshell.

    If that's not enough, Jameson will talk dirty to you when your phones rings, in English or Spanish.

    Jameson, who recently wrote a best-selling memoir, has launched the venture with Wicked Wireless, a mobile music and entertainment company.

    Also available are colour pictures of the porn star posing naked that can be displayed on your phone for $2.99.

    "Rock stars make music tones, porn stars make moan tones," said Dennis Adamo, head of Wicked Wireless. "We thought it would be an interesting novel approach of introducing new content to the mobile users."

    Jameson's charms are already being downloaded in Argentina, Ecuador, Venezuela, and in a couple of weeks will be available from Mexico to Uruguay.

    Latin American users can download a moan or a picture for $1.00 each, while US customers will pay $2.50 for a moan and $2.99 for a wallpaper once the service is launched.

    Some people were shocked, but others said they wanted more from the product.

    "If you can get her to say my name then I would buy it. I need that kind of personal attention," said Martin Gibson.

    US users will have to wait to get Jameson on their phones as no mobile carriers in the United States have expressed any interest in carrying the service.


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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: The Fooles Troupe
    Date: 28 Jan 05 - 02:20 AM

    Police introduce stick icon to curb paedophilia

    Children will be able to instantly report suspected paedophiles prowling the internet in an initiative announced by Australian Federal Police.

    Federal Police Commissioner Mick Keelty launched the Virtual Global Task Force website as part of a worldwide crackdown on online child abuse.

    The system allows children visiting such sites as internet chatrooms and email websites to report suspect messages to authorities by clicking on an icon - a stick figure with an eye.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Amos
    Date: 28 Jan 05 - 08:48 AM

    Thursday, January 27, 2005

    Jailed for using a nonstandard browser

    A Londonder made a tsnuami-relief donation using lynx -- a text-based
    browser used by the blind, Unix-users and others -- on Sun's Solaris
    operating system. The site-operator decided that this "unusual" event in
    the system log indicated a hack-attempt, and the police broke down the
    donor's door and arrested him. From a mailing list:

        For donating to a Tsunami appeal using Lynx on Solaris 10. BT
    [British Telecom] who run the donation management system misread an
    access log and saw hmm thats a non standard browser not identifying it's
    type and it's doing strange things. Trace that IP. Arrest that hacker.

        Armed police, a van, a police cell and national news later the
    police have gone in SWAT styley and arrested someone having their lunch.

        Out on bail till next week and preparing to make a lot of very bad
    PR for BT and the Police....

        So just goes to show if you use anything other than Firefox or IE
    and you rely on someone else to interogate access logs or IDS logs you
    too could be sitting in a paper suit in a cell :(

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 28 Jan 05 - 02:58 PM

    This one has a complex set of issues attached. And the end of it--new shoes and coats for poor children. It's cold down here now, and they used the money for necessities. Too bad drug dealers aren't altruistic, or they'd see the charm of this outcome.

    Dallas Kids Find Pile of Cash, Spend It
    January 28, 2005

    DALLAS - A convenience store owner in one of Dallas' poorest neighborhoods was amazed when she started seeing children from the elementary school across the street buying candy and chips with $100 bills. "One boy came in here with a $100 bill and asked for change," Charlene Williams said of an incident on Saturday. When she told the boy he needed to be careful with his "mama's money," he told her: "This ain't my mama's money. This is my money." It turned out that a youngster had apparently found tens of thousands of dollars in suspected drug money and was handing it out to others.

    Soon, though, some men came looking for the money, spreading fear through the South Dallas neighborhood. Over the past few days, parents have told police that men had come to their doors, threatening their children and demanding their money back. The elementary school was so rife with rumors and threats of a drive-by shooting that it was locked down for an hour on Wednesday, and about 200 of the 600 children stayed home the next day.

    On Thursday night, a man was arrested and accused of abducting and beating a 12-year-old boy who had some of the money. The boy was later returned home. Before he was jailed on $5 million bail, the suspect, 23-year-old Sylvespa Adams, told KDFW-TV that he never threatened anyone and that the money had been stolen from him. He disputed it was drug money, as police suspect. "I'm not no kidnapper," he said. "I work."

    The boy's mother told The Dallas Morning News that her son had spent part of the money and given away the rest. She said she assured Adams that she would pay him back in installments. "I don't know what else to do," she told the newspaper, speaking on condition of anonymity. "These people already know where I stay."

    In another incident, Erie Roy told the newspaper that she was watching television with her 12-year-old son Tuesday when two men stormed through her open front door with two of the boy's friends. She said one of the men kept his hand in his pocket as if he had a gun, and one of the boys was crying. Roy said one of the men threatened her son by telling him: "I don't have no problem with killing you. I want my money right now."

    "These are drug dealers. If they come back - I'm afraid," she said, sobbing. "I know they're going to hurt me. What am I supposed to do?"

    Roy said that her youngest son was offered money by neighborhood kids Sunday but did not take any.

    Lt. Jan Easterling, a police spokeswoman, said Thursday that detectives believe the youngsters may have found anywhere from $30,000 to $100,000. On Friday, investigators said were still trying to determine who found the money, where and exactly how much. There were no additional suspects, and none of the children had been charged with a crime. "Definitely people are saying they're afraid," Easterling said. "They're afraid for their kids."

    At the Joseph J. Rhoads Learning Center, teachers became suspicious after seeing one boy passing out money at school Monday. And Williams, the store owner, said she also noticed children with new shoes and coats. "All you have to do is see the ones with the new stuff on them and you know," she said.

    Security remained tight at the school Friday, though the number of students absent was down to about 100. "They feel a little better now that this alleged suspect turned himself in," district spokeswoman Sandra Guerrero said.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Cluin
    Date: 29 Jan 05 - 07:57 AM

    It's a good thing they watched it to the end just to be sure.


    A devout Baptist couple who bought a Doris Day DVD from a supermarket were shocked to find a sex film instead. Alan and Anne Leigh-Browne, from Wellington, Somerset, had been expecting to enjoy The Pajama Game.

    Instead they were confronted by Italian sex film - Tettone che Passione, which translates "Breasts, What a Passion" .

    "Some topless young women appeared and started talking in Italian... it's not what you expect from a Doris Day film," Mr Leigh-Browne said.

    Retired doctor Mr Leigh-Brown, 67, said he picked up the film, which was sealed in plastic wrapping, for £2.99 from the bargain bin of a Safeway supermarket in Taunton.

    No 'plot'

    The couple, regular attendees at their local Baptist church, settled down with a cup of tea to watch the 1957 musical which has a U (universal) certificate.

    "It was a pretty raunchy, explicit film, it certainly pulled no punches," Mr Leigh-Browne said.

    "My wife and I were very shocked but we watched it until the end because we couldn't believe what we were seeing.

    "The film became progressively more graphic, there was no plot to it, it was just sex."

    Alan and his wife Anne, 60, a retired teacher, complained to Safeway the next day and all copies of The Pajama Game were removed from the store.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Amos
    Date: 29 Jan 05 - 10:14 AM

    Yeah -- what if it had turned out to have Doris Day in it, three-quarters of the way through?


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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 29 Jan 05 - 02:33 PM

    I expected the punchline to be that all copies of The Pajama Game sold out immediately. :)

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 01 Feb 05 - 01:59 AM

    I'll state here that I oppose the death penalty, but don't see it going away any time soon. What is so bizarre about the really short loop in this argument is highlighted below. The guy admits the horrible murder of multiple women, he's on death row, and he's depressed. Only a bureaucrat could decide that a suicidal death row inmate out of appeals is unsuited to be put to death because he wants to die. Go figure.

    Conn. Again Delays Serial Killer Execution
    January 31, 2005

    HARTFORD, Conn. - The state postponed plans Monday to execute a serial killer after he agreed to have his mental competency examined, delaying for at least a month what would be New England's first execution in 45 years. The execution was first scheduled for Wednesday and was postponed three times last week as new court challenges emerged. It was set for 9 p.m. Monday before being put off again.

    Michael Ross, a 45-year-old Cornell University graduate, has confessed to eight murders in Connecticut and New York in the early 1980s. He said last year that he wanted to die to end the pain for the families of his victims. But the attorney hired by Ross to expedite his execution now says new evidence raises questions about his competency to "volunteer" to be executed.

    "On Friday, new information was revealed to me that made me question Mr. Ross' competency," attorney T. R. Paulding said in a motion. "The last 48 hours have reinforced my belief that the execution of Michael Ross should be delayed to determine whether he is competent. New and significant evidence has come to light that I simply cannot ignore." He said Ross' decision to drop his appeals remains unchanged, but he "recognizes that serious questions have been raised" about his competence and he wants a more thorough evaluation.

    Prosecutors said they would try to obtain a new death warrant as soon as possible and fight to prove Ross' competency in court. It is unknown when those issues will be resolved; a new death warrant would set Ross' execution date for no earlier than March, although lawyers say it could be months before all the legal hurdles are cleared. "I long for the day when we can say that we've forgotten about Michael Ross, and I want everyone to remember that we should never forget his victims," Chief State's Attorney Christopher Morano said. "It is my hope that sometime in the not-so-distant future we will finally be able to give their families a sense of justice."

    Ross was about an hour from execution Saturday morning when Paulding announced he had requested a postponement of the lethal injection. The decision came after U.S. District Judge Robert Chatigny accused Paulding of not adequately investigating new evidence in the case. Paulding said he is persuaded of the need to explore a phenomenon known as "death row syndrome." [in other words, he's suicidal. He's on death row with a death wish--can't have the state participate in suicide!] Public defenders have argued that years of harsh conditions on death row have in effect coerced Ross to drop his appeals.

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    From: The Fooles Troupe
    Date: 04 Feb 05 - 08:46 PM

    She's Australian and mentally ill - yet immigration locked her up
    By Andra Jackson
    February 5, 2005

    Mystery woman ... Cornelia Rau
    Photo: Supplied

    She has spent the past 10 months in immigration detention, her identity a mystery.

    But a mentally ill woman, Cornelia Rau, has lived in Australia since she was one, and since last March her distressed family had thought she was dead.

    The 39-year-old, who suffers from schizophrenia and is a permanent resident of Australia, was last seen in March after she escaped from the psychiatric unit of Manly Hospital.

    A Qantas flight attendant until 2000, Cornelia Rau has been officially listed as missing by NSW police since August. But despite a national appeal for information in November, no trace of her was found.

    Until two days ago, when her parents found out that their daughter was still alive but in Baxter detention centre in South Australia, a centre for refugees denied asylum.

    Ms Rau's sister, Chris Rau, a Sydney journalist, read a Herald article last Monday about a mystery German-speaking woman held at Baxter, known only as "Anna". She called police, who had Baxter authorities fax a photograph which confirmed "Anna" was her missing sister.

    "We're just relieved that she is alive," Ms Rau said.

    Her parents, who planned to wait until their daughter was in a more stable condition before they went to visit her, were finding it hard to come to terms with how Cornelia, born in Germany but an Australian resident since she was 18-months-old, could be held in immigration detention, Ms Rau said.

    They were also bewildered why the department could not establish her identity when police had her details.

    "To put it kindly, there was obviously a woeful gap in co-ordination between the police and the Department of Immigration, especially when you consider how many dozens of languages Australian residents speak," she said. "My mum in particular lay awake at night imagining all sorts of far-fetched scenarios."

    Ms Rau was first taken into detention in April. She had been staying near an Aboriginal camp at Coen, in far north Queensland. The Aborigines became concerned that she was sick and took her to Cairns police station.

    Senator Kerry Nettle, of the Greens, last night called for an inquiry into "this staggering case of mismanagement and abuse".

    The Opposition's immigration spokesman, Laurie Ferguson, accused Immigration Department officials and Queensland police of ineptitude.

    "How a mentally ill female Australian resident ends up in solitary confinement in the Baxter detention centre is mind boggling. Most Australians would find this situation totally reprehensible," he said.

    "Suddenly its dangerous to speak a second language in Australia."

    During her three months in Baxter, Ms Rau was kept in an isolation cell for a week and then in a high-security unit locked in a room on her own for 18 hours a day, said a refugee advocate, Pamela Curr.

    Detainees noticed her strange behaviour and distress and asked refugee advocates to help.

    Queensland police said she was found in Coen, north of Cairns around April. They said she gave false names which they checked against databases.

    "When these checks and other inquiries failed to positively identify the woman, police formed the opinion she may be a suspected non-citizen because of statements she made and the language she was speaking," a Queensland police spokesman said.

    "She was transported to Cairns and handed over to immigration officials after efforts to identify her failed."

    Some Aussies are very afraid that this will be used as a reason for an "Australia Card" with national compulsory fingerprint records.

    It could even have been engineered as a justification.

    I wonder how many other people have been spirited away by the State if they happened to mutter in another language.

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    From: The Fooles Troupe
    Date: 04 Feb 05 - 08:52 PM

    Adopt a Sniper' fund-raiser (article & rebuttal)

    'Adopt a Sniper' fund-raiser shot down
    Marquette University says 'no' to Republican students' plan
    Thursday, February 3, 2005 Posted: 5:10 PM EST (2210 GMT)

    CHICAGO (Reuters) -- A Catholic university in Milwaukee, Wisconsin has blocked an attempt by Republican students to raise money for a group called "Adopt a Sniper" that raises money for U.S. sharp-shooters in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    The students were selling bracelets bearing the motto "1 Shot 1 Kill No Remorse I Decide".

    "Clearly the rhetoric of that organization raised some questions and we had some strong objections as a Jesuit university," Marquette University school spokeswoman Brigid O'Brien said Thursday.

    The students, representing a group called College Republicans, originally got permission to set up a table at the student union to raise money for U.S. troops in Iraq.

    But they chose to promote a group called Adopt a Sniper, which says on its Web site it supports snipers deployed by the United States armed forces in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    The group says it "helps real snipers get the real gear they need to help keep us safe."

    The brainchild of a Texas police SWAT officer Adopt a Sniper ( has raised thousands of dollars in cash and gear to supplement the kit of sharp shooters in U.S. combat platoons.

    Among products sold on the site is a $15 coin with the imprinted phrase "Assistance From A Distance."

    Copyright 2005 Reuters.

    -------------- Rebuttal Article:

    MU Administration Suppresses CR ''Support Our Troops'' Table

    For Immediate Release
    Contact: Brandon Henak, Chair, 414-243-9558

    Once again the Marquette University Administration has taken its ultra-liberal inclinations to the extreme, violating its own commitment to academic freedom and ideological diversity. Yesterday afternoon, a University official abruptly suspended an approved "Support our Troops" table the College Republicans at Marquette University (CRs) set up to benefit Adopt a Sniper, a 501c(3) organization helping our troops in the Middle East. Today, the University Administration issued a memo canceling the table for the rest of the week.

    Students were volunteering at an Office of Student Development (OSD)-approved "Support Our Troops" table in the Alumni Memorial Union this afternoon, selling Adopt a Sniper trinkets modeled after the Lance Armstrong "Livestrong" bands. During a transition between volunteers, OSD staff canceled the table, confiscating the signs and supplies.

    Today, OSD Dean Mark McCarthy issued a memorandum stating "this fundraising activity does not comport to the University's mission." He said the Adopt a Sniper program was "clearly provocative" and ran contrary to Catholic values.

    CRs chairman Brandon Henak decried the Administration's suppression tactics. "Our group saw this table as an opportunity for our fellow students to support our troops by making peace possible through victory," Henak said. "This program directly benefits the men on the front lines, who use this material to eliminate terrorists and protect the lives of other American troops and innocent Iraqi civilians."

    "It is an absolute shame that this Administration is so blinded by its liberal bent that they refuse to recognize that the success of our servicemen and women in Iraq and Afghanistan is crucial to building a safe, free, and ultimately more peaceful world," Henak said. He pointed out that the Catholic Church has long upheld the tenets of Just War Theory as a legitimate way for governments to achieve long-term peace through military action.

    Henak also noted the proud American foreign policy tradition of "Peace through Strength," stretching from Teddy Roosevelt to John F. Kennedy and Ronald Reagan.

    He concluded by saying, "If Marquette is serious about its Catholic values, perhaps they can start by ending the scandal of granting University honors to pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage politicians and dissident theologians who directly perpetuate heresies to our student body."

    Adopt a Sniper, the group chosen by CRs as the beneficiary of their efforts, has garnered press coverage from Fox News, Reuters, The New York Times, and Stars and Stripes for its innovative program. Donations taken at the CR table are sent to the foundation, which is run by US-based law enforcement and retired military. These officers buy highly-specialized sniper equipment, including unique body armor, flashlights, and tactical gear that military procurement does not always provide. For more information, please visit:

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    From: Acme
    Date: 04 Feb 05 - 10:43 PM

    Holy-oh-moses-oh-jesus-h-christ, as my mom used to occasionally say. That must be one heckuva liberal college to shut down that action, eh?


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    From: GUEST,foolestroupe - "I come fru da window!"
    Date: 05 Feb 05 - 08:16 AM

    Re: Mystery woman ... Cornelia Rau

    She was mishandled by 3 separate Govt Depts - the Mental Health Dept assessed her (previously diagnosed as Schizophrenic) as having a few minor problems but perfectly sane - Immigration (because she was speaking only German) contacted several countries to try to identify her (so she was classified as a 'non-citizen'!!!!!) - and she was placed in solitary in Baxter - where she was locked up for 20 out of 24 hours - when let out, she would sit on the ground and eat dirt and mumble in German.... nobody checked with the Police Depts Missing Persons List... a family friend heard about this woman with strange behaviour and checked her out and was surprised...

    Makes you wonder just how many other insane Australian 'non-citizens' have been deported.....

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    From: GUEST,heric
    Date: 07 Feb 05 - 12:31 PM

    Boy, 4, drives mom's car to video store and back

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    From: The Fooles Troupe
    Date: 07 Feb 05 - 05:18 PM

    Hmm, I posted a correction which seems to have been purged...

    "when let out, she would sit on the ground and eat dirt and mumble in German"

    should read
    "when let out, she would tear off her clothes and run around naked, sit on the ground and eat dirt and mumble in German"

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    From: Acme
    Date: 07 Feb 05 - 06:19 PM

    That is markedly more dramatic!

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    From: JennyO
    Date: 07 Feb 05 - 09:30 PM

    A 4-year-old boy drove his mother's car to a video store a quarter-mile from their apartment in this town about 15 miles north of Grand Rapids.........................................It was the third time in six weeks that a west Michigan child was caught driving a vehicle.

    *sings* baby you can drive my car...

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    From: Acme
    Date: 08 Feb 05 - 04:23 PM

    These stories always contain such pathos, as with the grown women, Iranian conjoined twins who wanted to be separated a couple of years ago.

    Rare Surgery Set for Peruvian Baby
    February 08, 2005

    Peruvian doctor Luis Rubio play with baby Milagros Cerron, nine-month-old, in a public hospital in Lima, Peru on Friday, Feb. 4, 2005. MARTIN MEJIA

    LIMA, Peru - Milagros Cerron smiles, babbles and fidgets in the arms of her mother like any healthy 9-month-old, but she is no ordinary baby. Milagros was born with her legs fused in a tight coating of skin - giving her the appearance of a mermaid. "When I saw her for the first time, I felt pain," said Milagros' mother, 19-year-old Sara Arauco. "In that moment I thought, 'What will she do with her life? Was God going to take her away or not? Was she was going to live or not?'"

    A team of Peruvian doctors believe Milagros is the perfect candidate for surgery to separate her legs - something that has never been tried before in Peru. They plan to attempt the operation Feb. 24 and hope that after a few years of treatment, Milagros will be able to live a normal life. "Our dream is for Milagros to be able to run, walk and play like every normal child," said Dr. Luis Rubio, the leader of the medical team.

    Milagros, who looks months younger than her actual age, was born with a rare congenital defect known as sirenomelia, or "mermaid syndrome." The condition occurs in one out of every 70,000 births and there are only three known cases of children with the affliction alive in the world today. The deformity is almost always fatal within days of delivery due to serious defects to vital organs. But Milagros - whose name means "miracles" in Spanish - has survived. Although most of Milagros' organs, including her heart and lungs, are in perfect condition, she was born with serious internal defects, including a deformed left kidney and a very small right one located very low in her body. In addition, her digestive and urinary tracts and her genitals share a single tube.

    Sirenomelia is usually fatal because of complications associated with abnormal kidney and bladder development and function. Milagros' doctors have managed to stave off kidney and bladder infections, allowing her to continue to gain weight and grow, Rubio said. His medical team has been studying the case of Tiffany Yorks, a 16-year-old American girl born with sirenomelia whose legs were successfully separated when she was a baby. Rubio said Yorks' surgeon, Mutaz Habal, has provided invaluable advice to the Peruvian doctors.

    "There is not a great amount of experience with this in the world," Rubio said. "It is also unique in our country." The operation will be performed by a group of physicians, including trauma surgeons, plastic surgeons, cardiovascular surgeons, neurologists, gynecologists and a pediatrician, he said.

    During a recent hospital checkup, Arauco and Milagros' father, Ricardo Cerron, 24, watched with tenderness as their child was placed on a hospital bed and instinctively made her way toward them. First, she sat, leaning on her two hands, struggling to maintain balance. Then she twisted around and fell to her side. Lying face down, she slowly pulled herself with her arms across the length of the mattress until she reached them.

    "The truth is when I saw my baby when she was born I was filled with desperation," Cerron recalled. Cerron, an electrical technician, was unemployed when his wife gave birth to Milagros in a hospital in Peru's Andes. He left Arauco at their home in the mountain region of Chupaca to recover from childbirth and brought the baby by bus 125 miles west, to Lima to seek help. Milagros was admitted to one of Lima's public hospitals, where the operation will take place.

    "Right now the child has extraordinary psychomotor development," Rubio said. "She has a marvelous relation with her environment, with her parents. She babbles words and has her own personality." To prepare Milagros for the surgery, silicone bags will be gradually inserted between her ankles and knees to slowly separate the two fused legs and stretch her skin to close over the incisions at the end of the surgery. The operation is expected to last about five hours, Rubio said, and will begin with disentangling the internal network of arteries and veins that surround her fused legs.

    Milagros will require additional operations in the next 10-15 years to properly rotate her feet forward and reconstruct her genitals and urinary tract. "I have great faith that my daughter will come out OK and be well," Arauco said, "that she will stay with me, that she will be like a normal child."

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    From: wysiwyg
    Date: 09 Feb 05 - 12:08 AM

    America's Sexiest Plumber

    Last Update: 1/19/2005 11:44:31 AM
    By BRYAN ROURKE - The Providence Journal

    "Every little girl imagines herself in a pageant, Miss America kind of thing," Lori Sardinha-Costa said. "This is not quite the pageant I envisioned as a child, but that's okay. I'm fine with it."

    More than 250 plumbers from around the country entered the contest, which was judged by a panel of people from American Standard and the Plumbing Heating Cooling Contractors National Association. Personality, professionalism and, of course, appearance were the criteria.

    From all the entrants, the vast majority of whom were men, 13 finalists were chosen for the 2005 America's Sexiest Plumber calendar. (One month features two brothers.) Sardinha-Costa was selected the overall winner, receiving a trip for two to next month's Super Bowl in Jacksonville, Fla.

    Sardinha-Costa's picture appears in the calendar for the month of July. "I say that's because it's the hottest month," she said.

    Sardinha-Costa, who lives in Fall River, Mass., has worked for the family business, M. Sardinha & Son Plumbing, for several years, the last two as a plumber.

    "I just decided to get my apprentice license and basically get out there and get my hands dirty," she said. "My dad is reaching retirement age and so I need to secure my future."

    The business has six plumbers, Sardinha-Costa the only woman. She's unusual in a male-dominated industry, not just for her gender, but her appearance.

    "I still like to wear lipstick and do my hair," she said.

    Since winning the contest, Sardinha & Son Plumbing has reportedly received lots of calls requesting not simply a plumber, but specifically Sardinha-Costa.

    "My uncle came into the office from a call," Sardinha-Costa said. "He said 'We wanted the blonde. What are you doing here?' They were a little disappointed when they saw Angelo."

    Others have called not to schedule plumbing service from Sardinha-Costa, but a social visit.

    "An older gentleman said he wanted me to come to his house and have lunch with him," Sardinha-Costa said. "He said it was his dying wish. Let him dream."

    Sardinha-Costa is married; she has been for 10 years.

    "It's bragging rights for my husband," Sardinha-Costa said. "He's married to America's sexiest plumber."

    (Distributed by Scripps Howard News Service,

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    From: wysiwyg
    Date: 09 Feb 05 - 12:15 AM

    Beer Truck Crashes into Garage

    Last Update: 2/8/2005 8:19:10 PM
    Posted By: Matt Molloy

    A Sayre man got a delivery he wasn't expecting Tuesday night when a Coors Light beer truck crashed into his garage.

    Edward Namet came home to find his garage in ruins and an unattended beer truck to blame.

    Witnesses say the driver stepped out of the truck to make a delivery. When he returned the truck was rolling down the street and smashed right into Namet's garage.

    "I had this car, this brand new car in there and took it out this afternoon, so they are very fortunate that they didn't hit the car too," said Namet.

    There is still no word on why the truck started rolling in the first place.

    The accident is under investigation.

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    From: Cluin
    Date: 09 Feb 05 - 01:07 AM

    'If you don't take a job as a prostitute, we can stop your benefits'

    A 25-year-old waitress who turned down a job providing "sexual services" at a brothel in Berlin faces possible cuts to her unemployment benefit under laws introduced this year.

    Under Germany's welfare reforms, any woman under 55 who has been out of work for more than a year can be forced to take an available job--including in the sex industry--or lose her unemployment benefit. Last month German unemployment rose for the 11th consecutive month to 4.5 million, taking the number out of work to its highest since reunification in 1990.

    The government had considered making brothels an exception on moral grounds, but decided that it would be too difficult to distinguish them from bars. As a result, job centres must treat employers looking for a prostitute in the same way as those looking for a dental nurse.

    Prostitution was legalised in Germany in 2002 because the government believed that this would help to combat trafficking in women and cut links to organised crime.

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    From: GUEST,foolestroupe - "I come fru da window!"
    Date: 09 Feb 05 - 06:41 AM

    "AN INTENSE CYBER affair between a Jordanian man and woman turned ugly hen the couple met and turned out to be already married -- to each other."

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    From: GUEST,foolestroupe - "I come fru da window!"
    Date: 09 Feb 05 - 06:50 AM

    Rau is only an extreme example - our prisons are full of mentally ill people
    February 9, 2005

    Services to support people with psychoses have been shamefully neglected, writes Allan Fels.

    Over the past few days the tragic story of Cornelia Rau has unfolded to an increasingly incredulous public. How is it that for the past 10 months she has been held in prison and in a detention centre when her mental distress was so apparent to her fellow detainees and the Aboriginal people who discovered her?

    Has the mental health system let her and her family down?

    This case is of particular interest for me. Eight years ago my daughter Isabella, now 33, was diagnosed with schizophrenia after many years of bizarre behaviour. Not only has her illness had a major impact on her life, but it has also affected those who love her.

    While she is a charming, intelligent, loving daughter and medication generally relieves her psychotic symptoms, she still has difficulties distinguishing reality and requires support with everyday living.

    If Isabella had not been well treated medically and closely cared for, her life could have taken a similarly disastrous turn to that of Rau - who is now, at last, receiving psychiatric care at Glenside Hospital in Adelaide.

    One of the most concerning aspects of Rau's situation is that she was clearly severely unwell, distressed and in need of care, yet was allowed to drift into the no-man's-land of an immigration detention centre - where she might still be languishing indefinitely but for the efforts of asylum-seeker support groups.

    This is but one particularly flagrant example of how people affected by schizophrenia and other mental illnesses are neglected and allowed to drift into homelessness, neglect and, in many cases, prison or some other inappropriate institution.

    While mental health services have been deinstitutionalised over recent years, there are disturbing signs that people affected by mental illness are effectively being "re-institutionalised" in prisons. In NSW - where the prison population has increased by 50 per cent in the past 10 years - 46 per cent of inmates at reception have a mental disorder and the prevalence of psychotic illnesses such as schizophrenia is 30 times greater than the norm.

    People sometimes ask if deinstitutionalisation has gone too far. The truth is that it hasn't been given the chance to go anywhere. While the old psychiatric institutions have rightly been closed, community-based services have never been given sufficient resources to provide an adequate replacement - leaving the prison system (and in this case, the detention system) to act as a sump.

    It is necessary to state the obvious: that adequate funding from federal and state governments is needed urgently to enable mental health services to provide treatment and care when it is needed - not long after, when a crisis develops and the person and their family have endured so much unnecessary distress.

    We know that 1 per cent of Australians - 200,000 people - will experience schizophrenia and three quarters of those will develop it between the ages of 16 and 25. It is a treatable illness and the earlier it is treated the better.

    With proper diagnosis and treatment, people with schizophrenia are no more likely to be violent than people being treated for any other illness such as cancer or heart disease.

    Expert opinion is that people are born with a vulnerability to develop the illness which can be easily triggered by stress, injury or drug use. People do not develop schizophrenia because they are "weak-willed", nor because they have poor parenting.

    Schizophrenia is a costly illness: in 2001 it cost $1.85 billion. More than a third of these costs were borne by people with the illness and their family carers. Many costs were a consequence of the illness going untreated.

    It is clear that with the closing of the large psychiatric institutions governments grossly underestimated the number and range of community services that would be needed to provide humane and effective care.

    Treatment should include access to good medications and psychological treatments, improved community-based supported accommodation, rehabilitation and recreation programs, help for families and other carers and an end to stigma.

    This last point is critical. Stigma associated with schizophrenia means that people affected are thought to be less worthy than others and are treated less well as a result.

    At the individual level it means that finding somewhere to live, study, work and play is made more difficult. At a government level it means mental health services are not funded equitably - mental health receives 8 per cent of the health budget, yet is responsible for 25 per cent of the illness burden.

    Rau did not choose to be ill and this situation could have been averted by earlier diagnosis and effective treatment. For all our sakes we need to demand more from our governments.

    Professor Allan Fels, AO, is dean of the Australia and New Zealand School of Government and an associate of SANE Australia, the national mental health charity.

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    From: GUEST,foolestroupe - "I come fru da window!"
    Date: 09 Feb 05 - 07:04 AM

    Professor Fells used to be the previous head of the ACCC. I remember seeing a TV doco that mentioned that he had a family member with a problem.

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    From: GUEST
    Date: 09 Feb 05 - 02:32 PM

    Numerous non-flying arboreal vertebrates use controlled descent (either parachuting or gliding sensu stricto) to avoid predation or to locate resources, and directional control during a jump or fall is thought to be an important stage in the evolution of flight. Here we show that workers of the neotropical ant Cephalotes atratus L. (Hymenoptera: Formicidae) use directed aerial descent to return to their home tree trunk with >80% success during a fall. Videotaped falls reveal that C. atratus workers descend abdomen-first through steep glide trajectories at relatively high velocities; a field experiment shows that falling ants use visual cues to locate tree trunks before they hit the forest floor. Smaller workers of C. atratus, and smaller species of Cephalotes more generally, regain contact with their associated tree trunk over shorter vertical distances than do larger workers. Surveys of common arboreal ants suggest that directed descent occurs in most species of the tribe Cephalotini and arboreal Pseudomyrmecinae, but not in arboreal ponerimorphs or Dolichoderinae. This is the first study to document the mechanics and ecological relevance of this form of locomotion in the Earth's most diverse lineage, the insects.

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    From: Acme
    Date: 11 Feb 05 - 07:23 PM

    Oregon Man Arrested for E-Mail Suicide Pact
    February 11, 2005
    Grants Pass, Ore.


    A man used an Internet chat room to try to set up a mass suicide on Valentine's Day involving more than two dozen women across the United States and Canada, authorities said. Gerald Krein, 26, was arrested Wednesday at his mother's mobile home in Klamath Falls and faces charges of solicitation to commit murder, sheriff's deputies said. Investigators are subpoenaing chat room records to try to contact people who may have planned to take part in the suicide.

    Detectives learned of the plan from a woman in Canada who said she saw the message in a Yahoo chat room that had the words "Suicide Ideology" in the title. The woman, who was not identified by authorities, told detectives she was going to take part in the suicide but had second thoughts when another chat room participant said she would do it and talked about killing her two children before taking her own life, said Klamath County Sheriff Tim Evinger.

    "Our primary goal is to try to locate where these endangered children might be," Evinger said. "We need to investigate where these other computers are. Hopefully we can intervene if anyone still has the notion to follow through with this." The chat room participants planned to log in on Valentine's Day and commit suicide while keeping in touch over the Internet, Evinger said. The chat room is no longer active.

    Krein was looking for women and children to join in the suicide, said sheriff's Capt. Chris Montenaro. Investigators believe the total number, including Krein, was 32, Montenaro said. Deputies seized Krein's computer and a Web cam, and the suspect was being held without bail. Krein had moved to Klamath Falls from the Sacramento, Calif., area about a year ago to take care of his ailing father, Evinger said. Neighbors told the Herald and News newspaper that Krein was a burly man who favored tie-dyed T-shirts and looked "like a mountain man."

    District Attorney Ed Caleb said he is taking the solicitations seriously. "There is always a chance this is a joke, but our position is in this world, any time a person makes these kinds of overt actions, they need to be looked into," Caleb said. A grand jury will convene on Monday to determine if Krein will face additional charges, Caleb said.

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    From: The Fooles Troupe
    Date: 13 Feb 05 - 08:41 PM

    'Everybody knew who she was except Immigration' - National -

    'Everybody knew who she was except Immigration'
    By Russell Skelton
    February 13, 2005
    The Sun-Herald

    Cornelia Rau, the Australian woman who immigration authorities could not identity for 10 months, was well known to Federal Police, Foreign Affairs and Trade officials, two state police forces and leading hospitals in Queensland and NSW.

    Ms Rau was once taken to hospital by police after she was found unconscious in her underwear on Bondi Beach.

    Documents passed on to the South Australian Government say Ms Rau, a diagnosed schizophrenic, had accumulated files in a wide range of state and federal agencies as her illness and psychotic episodes over six years and in various parts of Australia and Europe required their constant involvement.

    Since 1998 she has regularly appeared on the missing persons list in Australia and overseas. Her disappearance from Sydney Airport in 1999 after returning from Europe led to Federal Police attempts to try to find her.

    She accumulated a file at the Foreign Affairs Department in 2002 after she applied for a false passport and had brushes with the law in Italy where she was treated at a Rome psychiatric hospital.

    NSW police picked her up at least three times, including the time she was discovered at Bondi and taken to St Vincent's Hospital.

    A senior South Australian Government official said: "Amazingly, everybody including authorities in Monaco knew who Cornelia Rau was except the Immigration Department. The real question is how could Immigration have not known who she was for 10 months?"

    There was serious bungling inside the Baxter immigration detention centre over Ms Rau's diagnosis and treatment, exacerbated by the deep-seated culture of denial on the part of the immigration officials in handling detainees suffering from acute psychotic and personality disorders caused by prolonged periods of detention.

    Inquiries show that Baxter resident psychologist Adam Micallef had ordered an urgent psychiatric assessment of Ms Rau just weeks after she arrived and well before detainees and visitors expressed alarm about her erratic and bizarre behaviour.

    But the request, made to South Australia's mental health authorities at the Glenside psychiatric hospital in Adelaide - where Ms Rau is currently being treated - in early November, was suddenly withdrawn a week later. "We were told that an assessment was no longer required," a source in the South Australian Government said.

    "When you look back on it now, it seems very odd that the request was withdrawn when we now know from the detainees that her behaviour was deteriorating."

    Immigration Minister Amanda Vanstone has insisted that Ms Rau, who was mistakenly detained in Baxter for four months, exhibited no signs of psychotic behaviour that would have alerted officials to her true mental state.

    But it is understood that Mr Micallef, who was employed by Global Solutions Limited (GSL), the private company contracted to operate Baxter by the Immigration Department, was apparently so alarmed by Ms Rau's behaviour, which included violent verbal outbursts, a refusal to be locked up at night, undressing, and bouts of uncontrollable sobbing, that he called for an outside assessment to determine whether she should be committed to Glenside.

    Although Baxter authorities withdrew the request, Mr Micallef renewed it again in early January shortly before he quit Baxter and the employ of GSL. Last week Mr Micallef declined to comment on the Rau case or the circumstances surrounding his sudden departure from Baxter, which led to a breakdown in communications between state authorities wanting to examine Ms Rau and Baxter officials. The wrangling over access continued for almost two weeks. Ms Rau was eventually transferred to Glenside on February 5.

    "Under the terms of my employment contract at Baxter I am prevented from speaking to the media," Mr Micallef said.

    State health officials said Mr Micallef's departure caused unnecessary delays in moving her to Glenside. "We were happy to co-operate and provide a psychiatric assessment, but we could not locate anybody at Baxter to make arrangements with, valuable days were wasted, nobody was returning calls," an official said.

    South Australia's Mental Health Services chief, Jonathan Phillips, last week blasted Baxter and immigration authorities, saying that he had been unable to obtain access to Ms Rau and had offered to conduct any psychiatric assessment of her himself if necessary.

    Dr Phillips said he was extremely concerned Ms Rau had been diagnosed by Immigration doctors as having had a personality disorder rather than a mental illness. "I was not happy to accept that, given what we knew about her level of disturbance," he said.

    On December 20, when giving evidence in a case involving psychiatric care for a detainee, Mr Micallef told the Federal Court he believed a conflict of interest existed between GSL-employed psychologists and the detainees they were hired to care for.

    He told the court that detainees did not know if their files were made available to GSL or the Department of Immigration and he acknowledged under cross-examination that that was a problem.

    GSL has ignored repeated requests over the past 12 months to set up a health advisory panel to monitor health needs of 256 detainees held at Baxter.

    This is starting to become a Saga like "Alice's Resturant" or "The Boxer"....

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 25 Feb 05 - 11:07 PM

    Arrrrggghhhh. . . Good for Keri.

    Lesbian's Picture in Tux Cut From Yearbook
    February 25, 2005

    GREEN COVE SPRINGS, Fla. - County school officials are backing a principal's decision to bar a picture of a lesbian student dressed in a tuxedo from the high school yearbook. Sam Ward, principal of Fleming Island High School, said he pulled the senior class picture because Kelli Davis was wearing boy's clothes. His decision was debated Thursday at a Clay County school board meeting that drew 200 people, but the board took no action, and Superintendent David Owens said the decision will stand.

    Most of the 24 people who spoke at the meeting supported Kelli Davis. "This is not to be treated as a gay rights issue," said her mother, Cindi Davis. "Rather it's a human rights issue." Others applauded Ward's decision, including Karen Gordon, who said, "When uniformity is compromised, then authority no longer holds."

    Officials at the northeastern Florida school have said the picture was pulled from the yearbook because Davis did not follow the rules on dress. School board attorney Bruce Bickner said there is no written dress code for senior pictures, but principals have the authority to set standards.

    The student editor of the yearbook, Keri Sewell, was fired after refusing her adviser's order to take the picture out.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Amos
    Date: 26 Feb 05 - 11:39 AM

    Third woman sues Koko the gorilla's caretakers over alleged breast-baring request



    4:20 a.m. February 26, 2005

    WOODSIDE ? A third woman has filed a lawsuit claiming a caretaker for Koko, the world-famous sign-language-speaking gorilla, pressured her to expose her breasts as a way to bond with the animal.

    Iris Rivera, 39, sued the Gorilla Foundation this week in San Mateo County Superior Court, saying the foundation's president, Francine Patterson, repeatedly told her to expose her breasts.

    Rivera, an administrative assistant at the foundation until she quit last month, claims Patterson told her last year that Koko was signing that "she wants to see your nipples."

    Two other former employees of the foundation, Nancy Alperin and Kendra Keller, filed similar claims last week.

    But while Alperin and Keller refused to expose themselves to Koko, Rivera acquiesced, the lawsuit states.

    "She took it as a disagreeable duty of her employment," said Rivera's lawyer, Michael Adams.

    An attorney for the foundation said the lawsuits had "no merit."

    Rivera's lawsuit alleges sexual and disability discrimination, invasion of privacy and Labor Code violations and seeks unspecified damages.

    The Gorilla Foundation was founded in 1976 to promote the preservation and study of gorillas. It's best known for Koko, a 300-pound simian who has mastered a vocabulary of more than 1,000 signs

    Someone should let Big Mick know...

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 26 Feb 05 - 02:09 PM

    Spam controls imperil e-mail reliability

    NEW YORK -- Sometimes the only way to know whether an e-mail got through is to call. Just ask Ashley Friedlein, who runs E-consultancy Ltd. in London. He never heard back from a correspondent in the United States, a subscriber of Verizon Online. So he phoned and learned his e-mail was never received. "I wouldn't have known anything about it had I not called to check" he said. Blame the mishap on increasingly aggressive spam controls employed by Verizon and other e-mail operators. As spammers identify new tricks for sneaking their junk past software sentinels, service providers' technical parries could put even more legitimate mail at risk.

    Spam and spam-fighting have "in some cases eroded the reliability of the mail system," said Eric Allman, chief technology officer of leading e-mail software vendor Sendmail Inc. "Now a lot of mail gets filtered out." A typical user might lose anywhere from a legitimate message every few months to as many as five a week, estimates Richi Jennings of Ferris Research. A lot of spam simply ends up in junk folders that recipients never check. But sometimes service providers reject such messages outright, meaning recipients have no control even if they turn spam filters off. In such cases, senders don't always get non-delivery error messages, even though Internet standards encourage them.

    Most of the recent complaints have been directed at Verizon. Though the company denies it has changed its policies, leaked excerpts from an internal memo that circulated late last year talked of new techniques that might disrupt legitimate e-mail. Verizon spokeswoman Bobbi Henson confirmed the memo's existence but said it contained inaccuracies and had been retracted. Henson denied assertions that Verizon had blocked entire countries in Europe based on their Internet addresses, and she said decisions to block certain service providers were limited to a few in Asia that were sending nothing but spam. She insisted Verizon's anti-spam controls were standard industry practices.

    Still, complaints continue. Joseph Gaila, a Lithuanian now retired in Ellicott City, Md., says he and his wife missed several Christmas greetings from relatives abroad. He said he used to get one or two messages a day from Lithuania but suddenly received none for weeks.

    Fabio Turone, a science journalist in Milan, Italy, says he tried unsuccessfully from at least three different accounts to e-mail a Verizon customer in Kingston, N.Y. Finally the pair created a Yahoo message group to communicate.

    Five Verizon customers have jointly filed a lawsuit in Los Angeles Superior Court, alleging Verizon breached its contract by failing to provide a dependable e-mail service. A Philadelphia-area law firm is seeking arbitration, arguing that it lost potential clients. "When you go to work every day, you expect e-mails to you will be gotten to you on a regular basis," said Michael Boni, a Philadelphia attorney who filed both cases.

    Henson, who had no comment on the litigation, acknowledged that legitimate mail could get lost or delayed, but said customers were demanding action, because as much as 80 percent to 90 percent of all incoming e-mail is now junk. "If we didn't block we would have so much volume that our platform couldn't even handle that," she said. "Instead of just a small number of customers not (getting legitimate mail), virtually everyone would not be getting mail." Verizon offers a completely unfiltered e-mail account upon request but few have opted for it, Henson said.

    Although Verizon has been getting the recent attention, it is hardly alone in misclassifying legitimate messages as spam. In the industry, such mail are known as "false positives." E-mail lists and newsletters sent in bulk are often misclassified.

    There's no good way to tell which service providers are better at handling legitimate messages because they all tend to be secretive about their specific techniques and change them regularly to keep spammers off guard.

    Nonetheless, some service providers are becoming more aware of the risks. "On a percentage basis, generally it's not a huge issue," said Kevin Doerr, product unit manager for Microsoft Corp.'s Hotmail service. "Of course, for most human beings, one false positive is one too many." In response, Microsoft and Yahoo Inc. say they now have mechanisms for quickly refining filters should users start reporting mail in spam folders as "not junk."

    E-mail providers are more willing to let legitimate senders prove their worth and get themselves on "always accept" white lists, said Stephen Currie, director of e-mail products at EarthLink Inc. "Before, it was all, `Let's identify the bad,'" he said. Microsoft, Yahoo and America Online Inc. also have been working on ways to authenticate e-mail senders - to identify legitimate senders and bless their messages before spam filters kick in.

    But even as service providers get smarter, so have spammers. They have new software that automatically routes junk messages through a real user's Internet service provider so spam traffic gets mixed with legitimate mail. "We're going to start seeing more stories of desperate ISPs blocking all mail from Comcast, Verizon, Cox and Road Runner," warned John Levine, co-author of "Fighting Spam for Dummies."

    Bruce Gingery, a security consultant in Cheyenne, Wyo., says users should simply get used to losing mail. "Even though people are relying more and more on e-mail, e-mail was never designed as a guaranteed delivery medium," Gingery said.

    Service providers, he said, are only required to make a "best effort" - a term left open to wide interpretation among mail providers.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Little Hawk
    Date: 26 Feb 05 - 02:20 PM

    Ha! Ha! Ha!

    So Koko "wants to see her nipples", eh? Men want to see EVERY woman's nipples, don't they? That doesn't mean we GET to! Koko should realize this, and so should her keepers. The woman was right to complain about it.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Amos
    Date: 26 Feb 05 - 04:13 PM

    Don't be judgemental, LH -- Koko has her own ideas of what bonding should consist of.

    Come to think of it, so do I!! :D


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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 26 Feb 05 - 11:49 PM

    And I bet that bonding has to do with looking at nipples, eh?

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 10 Mar 05 - 12:39 AM

    Michael Jackson's False Front?

    (She hits the nail on the head in the sentence I italicized to call it to readers' attention.)

    By Tina Brown
    Washington Post Thursday, March 10, 2005; Page C01

    The strange thing about the Michael Jackson trial is that the supporting actors are more interesting than the star. The weirdness of the King of Pop is so overexposed that no new revelation can shock. Either Jackson is a complete lunatic who slept with young boys and didn't fondle them or he's a complete lunatic who slept with young boys and did.

    Better to fixate instead on pass-through characters, like the French-born cooks at Neverland featured in Martin Bashir's "Primetime Live" report "Michael Jackson's Secret World." Who but Michael Jackson would ever hire these two? The wife looks like a war criminal in a blond fright wig. And how about Bashir himself? Why on earth did Jackson and the Princess of Wales both choose to open up their entire lives to this brooding, charm-free figure? He looks about as well-intentioned as the interrogator you meet when you are rendered by the U.S. military -- and seems to wreak the same havoc on his subjects' lives. His fawning letters to Jackson -- "Neverland is an extraordinary, a breathtaking, a stupendous, an exhilarating and amazing place. I can't put together words to describe Neverland" -- are classics of the genre. They're even more journalistically embarrassing than some of the gems I've written myself to elusive interview subjects over the years.

    When the young accuser took the stand on Wednesday, one hoped for the start of some moral clarity on the unrelenting awfulness of the cast of characters. But in his first appearance, the kid's testimony was all about being a participant in Jackson's media charade for Martin Bashir.

    It makes real crime junkies hanker for the exotic of the normal. That's why the arrest in the BTK case hit with such creepy, compelling force. The suspected serial killer next door, the head of the church council who police said waited in the dark with the phones lines cut -- it returned the world of deviance to the old reality format in which seemingly ordinary people nurture diabolical double lives.

    One thought to consider about Jackson himself is whether he is much less weird than meets the eye. Could it be that, like Saddam Hussein's WMD bluff, the whole freak show is a stunt that's gotten out of hand? The thought struck me during Bashir's original 2003 documentary for Britain's ITV, the one that got Jackson indicted. In the low, appalled voice one reserves for especially heinous horrors, Bashir asks, "Is it true that your father used to say you had a fat nose?" Jackson theatrically averts his head at the ghastliness of this memory and then says with a half-weeping snicker: "Yeah . . . You want to die. You want to die. . . . God. It's hard."

    You could argue, I guess, that the Fat Nose memory is the Rosebud in Jackson's life, inducing him to internalize self-loathing racial stereotypes to the point that he ended up bleaching his skin, straightening his hair like Morticia in "The Addams Family," and hiding the offending proboscis beneath a surgical mask even after its many surgeries had turned it into a pencil point. But what if Jackson is, in reality, having some sly fun with Bashir and by extension all celebrity journalists hellbent on getting the answers to such piffling questions?What if the whole persona is a scam under the heading of The Emperor's New Nose? After all, Jackson has shown plenty of business smarts in his time. The fey Peter Pan who tells Bashir his favorite pastimes are climbing trees and having water balloon fights was still canny enough to buy the Beatles' lucrative song catalogue.

    An interview with Jackson's ex-wife Lisa Marie Presley by Chris Heath in Rolling Stone in April 2003 would support the "secretly sane" theory. "I was always saying [to Jackson] people wouldn't think I was so crazy if they saw who the hell you really are," Presley told Heath. "That you sit around, and you drink and you curse and you're [expletive] funny and you have a bad mouth, and you don't have that high voice all the time. I don't know why you think that works for you, because it doesn't anymore."

    Ms. Presley, to be sure, has a reason to portray Jackson as less bizarre than people assume. Marrying someone most people regard as an extraterrestrial freak didn't do a whole lot for her image. ("Ok. Hello," she expounds. "I was delusionary. " I got some romantic idea in my head that I could save him and save the world.") But it might add some genuine dramatic tension if Jackson turned out to be pop music's version of Vincent "The Chin" Gigante, the Mafia boss who fooled the justice system for years by shuffling around the streets of Greenwich Village mumbling to himself in his bedroom slippers and bathrobe. If this were true, of course, it would also mean Jackson is just a plain old garden-variety ped, albeit one who instead of hanging around public playgrounds built his own at Neverland.

    Harder to figure out is the behavior of the alleged victim's mother, who handed over her sick kid to sleep in the bedroom of a previously accused child molester. Perhaps scientists will discover that celebrity is a virus that can infect the psyche's immune system as pervasively as HIV takes over the body's. It infected everyone in the Jackson case from the accuser's family to the defendant himself. Jackson started out a little strange, to be sure, but he lost his boundaries altogether only because he got the absolute permission that superstars enjoy to indulge the outer limits of narcissism.

    It's hard to know if Jackson will one day be seen as a repellent relic of celebrity culture, or another Oscar Wilde or Vivaldi, an artist persecuted for something or other we can't recall. Even the people who are absolutely sure he's guilty don't want to stop listening on their iPods to "Thriller" and "Billie Jean." That's a question neither conviction nor acquittal can answer yet -- whether Jackson will be remembered for the shame or for the art.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 15 Mar 05 - 12:16 PM

    I read the hometown newspaper every day, and of course I turn to the obituaries. There have been some real interesting ones lately, and on a sad note, one of the very interesting ones was for an old friend of mine. I hadn't seen him for a long time, but in reading what he's been up to since the 1980s, he continued being a funny, generous, and outgoing man. I won't post his obit here, however.

    Some of them go on and on, and clearly they didn't have any editorial help in sorting them out. Then there are the pithy ones--(this is a nice example).

    I read one this morning that, if you had to distill it down to a few words, says it all:

      Lois M. Gavin

      Lois Gavin was born January 7, 1926, in Stockton,
      California, and passed away March, 3, 2005, in Marysville,

      She loved her kids.

    For myself, I'd of course like to have the family include some of my more interesting jobs and passtimes and interests, but if they could only write one thing, this would be it--"she loved her kids."

    Is anyone else an obit reader, and do you have any memorable ones? (And just think--if it's really good, it can become a song, like Tom Lehrer did with "Alma")


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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 16 Mar 05 - 11:00 PM

    Is anyone really surprised at this outcome?

    Ex-Caregiver Charged With Murdering Girl
    March 16, 2005

    MIAMI - A woman who was supposed to be taking care of Rilya Wilson was charged Wednesday with murdering the 4-year-old, three years after the foster child's disappearance scandalized Florida's child-protection agency. Geralyn Graham was also charged with kidnapping and aggravated child abuse. No body has been found, prosecutors said. "Our grand jury has heard the facts and determined that Rilya's disappearance was the result of an act of violence and has indicted the child's former caretaker," State Attorney Katherine Fernandez Rundle said.

    Graham allegedly confessed while jailed on unrelated fraud charges and investigators later found corroborating evidence, said Fernandez Rundle, who declined to give specifics. "She basically broke down and told someone in the jail details about Rilya Wilson, including how she killed her," the prosecutor said.

    Graham's attorney, Brian L. Tannebaum, said: "That's completely not true. That's based on a jailhouse snitch. ... They have no other evidence." Rilya's story became known three years ago when it was discovered that she was not living at the home she shared with Graham and another woman, Pamela Graham, who was Rilya's legal guardian. The Grahams claimed a state social worker had taken the child in early 2001 for medical testing and never returned with the girl, who was 4 when she was last seen.

    The girl's disappearance had gone unnoticed by the Florida Department of Children & Families for months. The scandal led to a major shakeup at the agency, as well as a search for the girl.

    Prosecutors refused to give details on how they determined to charge Geralyn Graham, and the indictment doesn't mention any evidence. The indictment did allege, however, that Rilya was either suffocated or beaten to death sometime in December 2000. Tannenbaum said, "This is a woman who they charged with kidnapping without any evidence that she took the child anywhere and now they've charged her with the murder of a child they have not located."

    Graham is in jail on unrelated fraud charges and could have a court appearance as early as Thursday on the new charges, said state attorney spokesman Ed Griffith. The fallout of Rilya's disappearance was immediate. A blue-ribbon panel appointed by Gov. Jeb Bush to investigate Rilya's disappearance found massive problems at DCF, including the failure to check the background of caregivers and low pay for child protection workers.

    DCF Secretary Kathleen Kearney resigned in September 2002 and seven of 14 regional administrators with the agency were replaced. The Legislature passed a law making it a felony for welfare workers to falsify documents relating to anyone in state care.

    Geralyn Graham was arrested shortly after the disappearance on unrelated charges and was convicted of using a friend's Social Security number to buy a sport utility vehicle. She got three years in jail, where she remains. Pamela Graham pleaded guilty to accepting welfare payments for Rilya after the girl left her care and received two years' probation.

    But no charges were filed for Rilya's disappearance until August when Geralyn Graham was accused of aggravated child abuse, for locking Rilya in a cage and other alleged mistreatment. She was also charged with kidnapping for removing Rilya from Pamela Graham's custody. Pamela Graham, who was cooperating with authorities, was charged with child abuse.

    Rilya was born Sept. 29, 1996, to a homeless cocaine addict. The girl's name was an acronym for "Remember I love you always." She was taken into state custody when she was less than 2 months old.

    In April 2000, when she was 3, Rilya was placed in the custody of Pamela Graham. The Grahams have falsely called themselves sisters, but Pamela Graham told co-workers that Geralyn was her wife. Geralyn Graham told The Miami Herald in August that she and Pamela had been in a "loving" but non-sexual relationship for 10 years. DCF later acknowledged that its background check had failed to discover that Geralyn Graham had a long criminal history for fraud and had been diagnosed as psychotic six months before Rilya moved in.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: The Fooles Troupe
    Date: 17 Mar 05 - 09:02 AM

    Israel Gay Pride Parade Upsets Clergy

    Posted: March 16, 2005 at 11:01 a.m.

    JERUSALEM (AP) -- A coalition of evangelical Christians from the United States, U.S. rabbis and local ultra-Orthodox Jews vowed Wednesday to try to prevent an international gay pride parade from being held in Jerusalem this summer, but the mayor of the holy city said he has no way of stopping it.

    California pastor Leo Giovinetti, said hosting the 10-day WorldPride 2005 event could bring divine retribution upon Jerusalem, citing the biblical story of Sodom and Gomorra as a precedent. Ultra-Orthodox lawmaker Nissim Zeev hinted at more earthly troubles in store.

    "If they think they can party here in this city and carry out this provocation without hindrance, I think the police will be kept busy dealing with demonstrations," he told a news conference. "With demonstrations we never know how they end up, we know how they begin. Residents here are enraged. Everything should be done to stop this (event) and not cause people to break the law."

    Israeli gays have held small marches in Jerusalem in the past that have passed relatively peacefully, with a few shouted insults from onlookers and minor acts of vandalism.

    This time the plan is for a major international happening, comprising parties, a gay film festival and workshops and culminating in the WorldPride parade, street fair and rally. The event, held every five years, attracted tens of thousands of participants when it was held in Rome in 2000.

    Giovinetti, from San Diego, has a nationwide radio ministry in the United States which he says reaches millions of listeners -- and he is seeking a million signatures for a petition against the August festival, which he said is offensive to the values of religious people and debases the sanctity of Jerusalem.

    "We did not come here because we hate homosexuals," he said. "But when they said, 'I'm coming to your house and I'm going to spit on your mother, what are you going to do about it?' In order to be a good son I'm going to say, 'Mom, that's not right and I'm going to fight it."'

    The petition, drafted by Giovinetti, quotes the biblical book of Isaiah, (3:8-9) as a warning against profaning the holy city: "Judah and Jerusalem will lie in ruins because they speak out against the Lord and refuse to obey him. They have offended his glorious presence among them ...They sin openly like the people of Sodom."

    Organizers of the festival, under the theme "Love Without Borders," say they want to promote coexistence.

    "The holiness of Jerusalem does not come from manipulating religion to keep people away," said Hagai El-Ad, the director of Open House, the Jerusalem group that has organized local gay parades in the city. "Jerusalem's holiness comes from it being a city that can bring together all kinds of people," he said.

    The decision to host the WorldPride Parade in Jerusalem was made by InterPride, the association that organizes gay parades around the world.

    Giovinetti, the head of an evangelical congregation in San Diego, accused organizers of deliberately targeting holy places. "We are convinced that it is no accident that the last parade was held in Rome and that today Jerusalem is being targeted. Clearly the group's agenda is to create a provocation and thus offend religious sensibilities," he said.

    A majority of Jerusalem's more than 600,000 residents are either Orthodox Jews, Palestinian Muslims or Christians, traditional communities that oppose homosexuality.The city's ultra-Orthodox Jewish mayor, Uri Lupolianski, said in a statement that while he opposes the parade, he has no legal way of stopping it, as authorization for public events is given by the police.

    New York Rabbi Yehuda Levin, representing a group of U.S. Orthodox rabbis, the Rabbinical Alliance of America, said that with the help of the powerful conservative Christian lobby, the coalition plans to put pressure on Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and key Cabinet ministers.

    "Whatever the police say about the festival, if those men don't want it to happen it won't happen," he said.

    (Copyright 2005 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: GUEST,Stilly River Sage
    Date: 18 Mar 05 - 12:16 PM

    Everyone is jumping on the bandwagon of this issue that should be between the couple involved and their doctors. The woman checked out 15 years ago and her husband is trying to honor her wishes. It's astonishing how he's managed to hang on (emotionally) for so long--clearly there were easier avenues he could have followed. And now the busy-bodies in the senate are heaping more difficulties on the pair, egged on by her delusional parents.


    GOP Asks Brain-Damaged Woman to Testify
    March 18, 2005

    WASHINGTON - Senate Republicans embroiled in the life-or-death legal battle over the severely brain-damaged Terri Schiavo invited the Florida woman to testify to Congress in a procedural move intended to keep her on life support.

    The Senate Health Committee has requested that Terri and her husband Michael appear at an official committee hearing on March 28. A statement from the office of House Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., on Friday said the purpose of the hearing was to review health care policies and practices relevant to the care of non-ambulatory people.

    Frist's statement noted that it is a federal crime to harm or obstruct a person called to testify before Congress, thus stopping any action that could threaten the health of the woman.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: GUEST,Stilly River Sage
    Date: 20 Mar 05 - 11:57 AM

    Killings prompt duty-to-help bill
    The state House passes a measure that would make it illegal to do nothing if you know someone is being injured by a crime.

    OLYMPIA - Pushed by parents of three murder victims, lawmakers are pressing to make it a crime for people to do nothing when they know someone's life is in danger. They contend such a law might have prevented the killings of Rachel Rose Burkheimer of Marysville, Michael Schuerhoff of Bothell and Joey Levick of Burien. In each case, people saw the victims, alive but injured, and did nothing that might have saved them. "Every year we don't pass such a law we get another tragic example of why we need the law," said Dan Satterberg of the King County Prosecutor's Office, who helped craft the bill referred to as the "Joey Levick Act." It passed the House of Representatives 97-0 this week and awaits a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing.

    Under the proposed law, misdemeanor criminal charges could be filed against people who do not summon assistance if they know a crime has occurred and the victim is hurt or faces serious harm. It requires only that people attempt to get help, such as by calling 911. They would not be expected to jeopardize their own lives. "That's not too much to ask, given what's at stake," Satterberg said. A conviction would carry a 90-day jail sentence and $1,000 fine.

    Pursuit of the law started following the 1994 death of Levick and gained urgency after the killing of Schuerhoff in January 1996. Burkheimer's slaying in 2002 further spotlighted the situation. Levick was badly beaten and left semiconscious in a drainage ditch near Highway 509 in Burien. He lay there for 16 hours, slowly drowning in shallow drainage waters, before dying. Several people knew where he was at the time.

    Schuerhoff was pushed off a Bothell railroad trestle, down a hill and into a slough. At least five people knew of his whereabouts and did nothing. Levick's parents, Melva and Joe, and Schuerhoff's mother, Anita, have told and retold their stories. Rep. Al O'Brien, D-Mountlake Terrace, a retired police officer, remembers hearing them as a freshman lawmaker in 1997. "I was in tears," said O'Brien, the prime sponsor of the bill this year. "My son called me up and said, 'It looks like you're tired,' and I said, 'I was crying.' It was horrible to hear about the young man left in the ditch."

    Denise Webber of Marysville, Burkheimer's mother, joined the other parents at legislative hearings this year. Webber testified twice, each time clutching a photograph of her 18-year-old daughter who was shot to death in 2002. "I hit some points in her story to remind them," Webber said of lawmakers. She's spoken about how her youngest daughter was beaten and kept captive for hours in an Everett garage before being taken to her death in the hills near Gold Bar. Eight young men were convicted of murder and other crimes in connection with her death. No charges were brought against Trissa Conner, who owned the Everett home and spoke with Burkheimer during her ordeal but did not seek police assistance. "Trissa Conner got off scot-free. People were just appalled by that," Webber said.

    Snohomish County Prosecuting Attorney Janice Ellis said Conner's lack of care was "criminal" and had a "clear impact" on Burkheimer's life. Previous legislation faltered amid concerns that law enforcement might apply it too broadly, even questioning inaction by innocent passersby. There also was concern that good Samaritans might face arrest or liability for getting involved. Revisions made this session limit the law to those who witness the crime and know that the victim suffered harm. "What this does is codify what we recognize as appropriate and desirable behavior," Ellis said. "It's hard to tell if people will be inspired to do the right thing because of potential criminal liability."

    Vermont, Minnesota, Rhode Island and Massachusetts also have what's referred to as duty-to-rescue laws, according to House staff.

    Webber said she's hopeful that attention focused on her daughter's case boosts the effort to make the legislation reality. "I just want it (the bill) passed, and I want more attention brought to it," she said. Should another setback occur, Anita Schuerhoff vowed to return next session. "We will not stop," she said. "There's a big history here. We're not going to give up."

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    From: gnu
    Date: 20 Mar 05 - 12:07 PM

    Nfld. man given six months for DUI charges, blames liquor filled chocolates

    Fri Mar 18, 1:15 PM ET   Odd News - Canadian Press

    ST. JOHN'S, Nfld. (CP) - A Newfoundland man convicted for driving under the influence blamed it all on liquor-filled chocolates.


    Allen Bottomley, 67, of King's Cove, Nfld., told the judge he'd eaten too many of the sweets before being stopped by police last fall. The judge didn't bite and sentenced him to six months in jail.

    Bottomley faced two charges of driving under the influence in separate incidents in September and November of last year.

    RCMP said his blood alcohol level was approximately twice the legal limit when he was pulled over on both occasions.

    Const. Tony Seaward said Bottomley also had three previous convictions for impaired driving resulting in the loss of his licence for eight years.

    Seaward said it doesn't matter how the alcohol is consumed, it's still illegal to get behind the wheel while impaired.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 21 Mar 05 - 10:50 AM

    Gotta watch those rum balls!

    Here's one that ties into a discussion on another thread (posting photos of flowers on a spring thread) but since it's kind of off that beaten path I'll stick it here instead. I've been planning to set up an account with Flickr. link

      Flickr Photo Sharing Service Acquired by Yahoo

      Will it be Google, will it be Yahoo? Who will acquire Flickr? Well, this weekend not only was Ask Jeeves acquired by IAC in a groundshaking surprise move, but Yahoo also acquired Flickr, the photo sharing and flogging (foto blogging) community service.

      Duncan Riley from Blog Herald has the scoop:

      The online photo management and sharing application owned by Canadian firm Ludicorp, has a strong following in the blogosphere and is regarded by many as the best service of its type available. Details of the purchase price has not been revealed, however the Flickr team reveal that Yahoo! has bought Ludicorp in its entirety.

      The Flickr blog has already posted to users stating that whilst Flickr technology will be integrated in Yahoo! Photos, they expect the Flickr product to continue on a stand alone basis for the forseeable future.

      Here are some further answers from the Flickr blog:

      What is going to happen to Flickr?

      Flickr will be continuing on the path it's on ? to Flickr 1.0 and beyond. We'll be working with a bunch of people that Totally Get Flickr and want to preserve the community and the flavor of what is here. We're going to grow and change, but we're in it for the long haul, with the same management and same team.

      You're not going to become a bunch of suits?

      No, no, no! The precious DNA we've got ? that of the Ludicrew ? is on side and revving up for building Flickr. Having the team building out the team's vision for Flickr has been stressed as our number one priority, and keeping us around ? in spite of our wiseassery, tomfoolery and tendency to hoot spontaneously ? is crucial for preserving the Flickrness that is Flickr. They're not going to replace any of us with suits, nor induce us to wear them. Lapel? I don't know what you mean.

      Are you going to become Yahoo Photos?

      No. Yahoo Photos will get a lot of Flickr features, and there are alot of other areas around Yahoo that will also be Flickrized where Flickrization would be good. Yahoo Photos and Flickr have different kinds of users with different needs, and will remain separate for the foreseeable future. Flickr would also suffer from a sudden deluge of LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! omg! so we're going to grow it carefully.

      Do I have to have a Yahoo ID to use Flickr?

      No. In the future, you'll be able to log into Flickr using your Yahoo account, but you can continue logging on as before.

      Will Terry Semel do the Developers Developers Developers shtick?

      The fabulous Flickr API will continue to be open wide as all the outdoors, though we really gotta work on those commercial use licenses. Terry is as brilliant a businessman as Ballmer, but alas, does not dance. It messes up his hair.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 24 Mar 05 - 11:21 PM

    This looks like the stuff of Urban Legend, but I found the article in the San Francisco Chronicle.

    Wendy's diner finds human finger in her chili
    Maria Alicia Gaura, Dave Murphy, Chronicle Staff Writers

    Thursday, March 24, 2005

    An unlucky diner bit into a segment of a human finger while digging into a bowl of chili at a Wendy's restaurant in San Jose, Santa Clara County health officials confirmed Wednesday. The diner, who visited the restaurant Tuesday night, spit out the well- cooked digit, notified restaurant workers and became sick to her stomach, health officials said. The origin of the finger remains a mystery.

    Santa Clara County Health Officer Dr. Martin Fenstersheib said he was called at home by San Jose police who went to Wendy's and immediately dispatched health inspectors to the restaurant. He said he ordered officers to transport the body part, wrapped in damp gauze, to the medical examiner's office.

    The restaurant, at 1405 Monterey Road, was shut for a couple of hours while the batch of chili and stocks of chili ingredients were impounded. The restaurant was allowed to reopen and to cook another batch of chili using newly purchased ingredients. Wendy's officials said they are eager to find out how their food became contaminated.

    "The entire investigation is with the county health department," said Steve Jay, Wendy's marketing director for Santa Clara County. "We're fully cooperating."

    Jay said the chili came from a master distributor but declined to name the firm. He added that Wendy's has been doing business in the area for more than 25 years and never had a serious problem before.

    Fenstersheib said he spoke to the anxious woman several times by phone and had the queasy experience of confirming to her that the object was indisputably human. The woman asked officials not to name or even describe her. "I had to confirm it to her that she had indeed put a piece of a human finger in her mouth," Fenstersheib said. "She kind of lost it." The woman was "emotionally distraught ... due to the unpleasant sensation of having this (object) in her mouth," Fenstersheib said

    He said the finger had been cooked at a high enough temperature to kill any viruses, including hepatitis or HIV, and that it was very unlikely that she will suffer any health effects from her experience, aside from psychological trauma.

    "The potential for health impacts are extremely low for her or anyone else who ate that chili," Fenstersheib said. He said, however, that he will recommend baseline viral testing for the woman, to allow for comparison should any food-borne illness emerge in the coming months. A similar strategy might be wise for others who ate the contaminated food, he said. "The risk is low, but nothing in medicine is 100 percent," Fenstersheib said.

    County officials say they have no idea how many other people consumed the contaminated chili, which was cooked at about 2 p.m. Tuesday and was served to customers until the finger turned up at 7:20 p.m. Anyone who may have eaten the contaminated batch is encouraged to call county health officials at (408) 918-3400.

    The finger was described by county Medical Examiner Dr. Joseph O'Hara as cooked but not decomposed. The digit was found in two pieces, a 1-inch fingertip complete with the skin whorls used in fingerprinting and a half-inch piece of fingernail. The digit appeared to have been torn off, possibly by manufacturing machinery, rather than cleanly cut. Considering the nail's slightly longer length and neat grooming, O'Hara speculated that it may have belonged to a woman, though "it's hard to tell."

    Since all of the workers at the restaurant were found to be in possession "of all 10 of their fingers," health inspectors assume the finger likely entered the food chain as a result of the manufacturing process, according to county Environmental Resources Director Ben Gale. Health inspectors said the restaurant appeared to be generally clean and well-maintained, with only one minor violation having to do with a leaky vent.

    Gale said it could take weeks to track each of the numerous ingredients to their places of manufacture, which will be in different states or possibly even different countries. Since the law requires that industrial accidents result in a stoppage of the assembly line and be reported to authorities, it may be possible to pinpoint the site of the original accident. In addition, authorities may be able to obtain a fingerprint and DNA from the finger to identify the person.

    The restaurant was open Wednesday, and business was brisk despite the finger incident. Elizabeth Adcock, who visits that Wendy's frequently and was having a bowl of chili Wednesday at around 3 p.m., said she had heard television reports about the finger, but thought it might be an urban legend.

    Another woman who was eating chili at the restaurant, San Jose State student Andria Mendoza, said she had overheard workers discussing a finger in Spanish, so she proceeded carefully. "I actually did check -- with my spoon," she said.

    Customer Gary Grant of San Jose expressed disappointment that it was business-as-usual at the restaurant. "We come here all the time," Grant said. "We just ate here today, and nobody said a thing. There were no signs up."

    "How can you trust somebody like that? You're still serving food. Which basically means you don't care."

    Customer Fernando Anaya was in a lighter mood. "Where's the finger at?" he joked as he ordered a salad. Anaya said he worked at a cannery many years ago, so the incident with the finger doesn't shock him. He said he plans to keep eating at his local Wendy's. "I don't eat chili anymore,'' he said. "I used to, but the cholesterol is too high."

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    From: Acme
    Date: 25 Mar 05 - 11:31 AM

    Octopuses try to sneak away on two arms
    UC researcher says octopods wrap other arms around selves, pretend to be bunch of algae

    A UC Berkeley researcher has observed octopuses, known for using
    camouflage to avoid predators, apparently trying to sneak away by
    walking on two arms while pretending to be a bunch of algae. Two
    kinds of octopus were seen to use different ways of walking along
    the sea floor, researchers reported in today's issue of the journal

    The movements were discovered by Christine Huffard of the University
    of California, Berkeley, who was studying underwater video camera
    tapes of the animals.

    UC Berkeley professor Robert Full said Huffard was studying octopus
    movement as part of a robotics project. He said the researchers use
    examples from nature in designing robots. One project is to build a
    soft robot.

    Octopuses trying to avoid being eaten usually hold still to camouflage themselves. But by walking on two arms, these two types were able to
    move quickly while using their other arms to disguise themselves.

    Two individuals of O. marginatus from Indonesia wrapped six arms
    around themselves, looking like a coconut on the sea floor. They then
    used the two rear arms to move backward.

    In Australia, O. aculeatus was seen raising two arms above its head
    before lifting four more and moving backward on the two remaining
    arms. The researchers described it as looking like "a clump of algae tiptoeing away." The researchers believe the octopuses were trying to flee from predators, though they cannot be sure.

    The research was funded by the American Malacological Society and the National Science Foundation.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 25 Mar 05 - 11:32 AM

    darn thing went before I could finish formatting it.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Amos
    Date: 25 Mar 05 - 11:57 AM

    LOL!! TEEEriffic story, SRS!! Love it!! I have known some octopi in my diving career who should learn from this!


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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Rapparee
    Date: 25 Mar 05 - 12:30 PM

    Amos, when you were diving, did you see
    anything like this?

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Amos
    Date: 25 Mar 05 - 04:03 PM

    Nope!! They look like faggoty octopi to me. REAL octopi use all eight legs, none of this limp-wristed tiptoeing around! 'Course I never heard of flaming octopi before, except in Greek restaurants, but ya never know!


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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 25 Mar 05 - 04:35 PM

    What are you talking about, Amos? This is a pas de deux deux deux deux. That's very difficult! I bet you trip over your feet with only two of them. If you had extra feet you'd probably wrap them around your head also. :)


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    From: GUEST,Stilly River Sage
    Date: 27 Mar 05 - 11:47 AM

    Fire crew honored for quick action
    By Melody Mcdonald, Star-Telegram Staff Writer

    FORT WORTH - When 2-year-old Matthew Alford fell out of a second-story window last year, his head injuries were so severe that doctors didn't think he would live.

    The firefighters who had worked to save Matthew had been told that the toddler had been taken off life support and died.

    "That was pretty upsetting," said firefighter Larry G. "Sonny" Tompkins, a paramedic who was on the truck that day. "I had to break it to all the guys."

    One day several months ago, Matthew and his mother, Lisa, unexpectedly dropped by the fire station to thank Tompkins and the crew for helping save Matthew's life.

    Tompkins wasn't there, but word traveled fast.

    "They called me at home and said, 'You'll never believe who just walked in the door,' " Tompkins said. "When they told me who it was, I just fell out. I had to sit down."

    The Alfords attribute Matthew's "miracle" recovery, in part, to the quick-thinking, skill and determination of Tompkins and the three other responding firefighters -- Wade Green, David Ramirez and Kaleb Kemp.

    On Saturday night, these four men -- the C-shift crew of Engine 37 -- received double awards, for top emergency medical services and as Company of the Year. Tompkins also took home the top award as Firefighter of the Year.

    Fighting back tears, Lisa Alford and her family stood next to the crew on stage and told the crowd that there is no other place she would rather be.

    "These gentlemen here mean the world to me," she said. "They saved my son."

    Moment of terror

    On Feb. 28, 2004, Lisa and Eric Alford and their sons -- Matthew and 8-year-old Josh -- were helping friends move into a new house in the 5400 block of Chatsworth Lane.

    Lisa Alford had taken her sons and her friend's two sons, ages 5 and 9, to the new house to await the first load of items.

    The three older boys went upstairs to play and, a short time later, Matthew followed them up.

    "Not even five minutes later, I heard Josh scream bloodcurdling screams," Alford said. "He said, 'Matthew fell!'

    "I got to the base of the stairs and looked up and saw Josh's face, and I knew it was bad."

    The boys had opened the window to let in cool air; Matthew had fallen out.

    Frantic, Alford grabbed her cellphone off the counter, raced outside and dialed 911. Matthew wasn't moving, and his head had started to swell.

    The C-shift crew of Engine 37 arrived within minutes. They immediately called for CareFlite's helicopter ambulance and began working on Matthew.

    "I remember Sonny just sitting over him and working and working -- all of them working," Alford said. "And them barking orders, 'Get me this. Get me that. Get this. Get this.'

    "The whole time, I just kept praying that God would not take him from me."

    Alford's friend, Doreen Krebs, the new homeowner, arrived and asked whether Matthew was going to be OK.

    "Sonny just looked at her and said, 'Just pray,' " Alford said.

    Critical moments

    Matthew was flown to Cook Children's Medical Center in Fort Worth, where the surgeon told the family that his prognosis was bleak.

    Matthew had shattered his forehead and severed the main artery that supplies blood to the brain.

    After a three-hour surgery, the doctor was not optimistic.

    "When he comes out, he said, 'It doesn't look good, and I don't think he will make it,' " Alford recalled.

    Matthew surprised them all. He stayed in the pediatric intensive care unit for 29 days, until he was well enough to be moved to a transitional care unit.

    On May 20, Matthew went home, and Alford began to wonder about the people who had worked so hard in those critical moments. For months, she had seen the firefighters' faces in her dreams.

    "I had nightmares for a long time," she said. "I kept seeing the firemen's faces in my face saying, 'Ma'am, it's not good. It is not good.' "

    One day, on her way home, she was forced to take a detour past the fire station in the 4700 block of Ray White Road.

    She had no idea that the firefighters who had responded that day had been told that Matthew had died.

    "I just walked in and said, 'I need to know if you guys were the ones who were working on February 28. I said my son fell from a 2-story window.' "

    Alford said she instantly recognized Green.

    "He just looked at me and said, 'Oh my God!' "

    Tomkins wasn't there, so the others called his wife, Michelle.

    "They said, 'Remember the little boy that fell in February?' " Alford recalled. " 'He is alive. He is running around the fire station.' "

    The next week, Alford and her family returned to the fire station.

    "Sonny just walked around and held him [Matthew]," Alford said. "He just kept saying, 'I can't believe this. I can't believe this.' "

    'Miracle Boy'

    Today, Matthew, now 3, is trying to catch up on lost months.

    Before the accident, Matthew was advanced for his age -- able to recite the Pledge of Allegiance and count to 20 in Spanish.

    He has had to relearn how to sit up and walk. He is in speech therapy to learn how to talk again.

    "They will never say he is going to make a full recovery with an injury like this," Alford said. "But we have faith that he is going to do just fine."

    The Alfords, who sometimes refer to Matthew as the "Miracle Boy," believe that God sent Tompkins and the C-shift crew of Engine 37 to the house that day.

    After the ceremony Saturday night, Tompkins said he, too, felt a higher power had a hand in the rescue.

    "Angels and God were with him," Tompkins said. "That is all I know."

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    From: GUEST,Stilly River Sage
    Date: 29 Mar 05 - 10:38 AM

    Ewwwww! The epitomy of the "dirty old man!"

    Santa Ana, Calif.
    87-year-old sentenced in sex-tourism case

    An 87-year-old man convicted of attempting to travel to the Philippines to molest young girls was sentenced yesterday to 20 years in prison under a 2003 federal law aimed at fighting so-called sex tourism.

    John W. Seljan was the first person to be convicted at trial of violating the Protect Act, which made it easier for U.S. authorities to prosecute people for overseas sex crimes, according to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

    Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents arrested Seljan in October 2003 at Los Angeles International Airport as he was about to board a flight to the Philippines. In his luggage, he had child pornography, sexual aids and nearly 100 pounds of chocolates and other candy. Authorities said he intended to have sex with two girls, ages 9 and 12.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: GUEST,Amos
    Date: 29 Mar 05 - 10:48 AM

    More to be censured than pitied, I suppose. It must be awful hard (so tospeak) on old men to turn aged, smelly, grumpy and ugly, appealing to no-one, while still driven by the primordial demands of protoplasm. A rough life, indeed.


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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: GUEST,Stilly River Sage
    Date: 29 Mar 05 - 10:59 AM

    If he didn't have all of the candy and the porn, no one would have stopped him. It wasn't that he was going overseas for sex with consenting adult women that got him into trouble, he was going to prey on children. Makes you wonder what he's been doing the rest of his life?


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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Amos
    Date: 31 Mar 05 - 10:45 AM

    Just to show that even in San Diego we have a little imagination and a sense of humor:

    Thief in San Diego Steals Bag of Poop From Woman Walking Dog

    SAN DIEGO Mar 31, 2005 ? The hunt is on for a turd burglar. Police in San Diego are searching for a gunman who swiped a bag of poop from a woman out walking her dog.

    The woman told police that she was out walking her dog, Misty, on Monday night when a man in his 20s ran up behind her and grabbed the bag she was holding.

    When the gunman discovered what was in it, he threw it down in disgust, pointed his gun at the 32-year-old woman and demanded money, San Diego police detective Gary Hassen said.

    He then aimed his .22-caliber semiautomatic at Misty and pulled the trigger twice but the gun didn't fire, Hassen said.

    The robber ran to a waiting small, silver car and fled the scene, police said.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 31 Mar 05 - 10:48 AM

    I heard that on the radio this morning. The woman was very lucky, all things considered. The story is a very scary kind of "funny."


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    From: Acme
    Date: 01 Apr 05 - 01:40 AM

    A Woman's Risky Strategy to End Stalking
    Indianapolis Woman Confronts, Chases Peeping Tom

    March 31, 2005 -- For several months in 2003, a stalker made Hannah Arbuckle's life a nightmare.

    One spring night, a strange man had come to the window of her newly purchased Indianapolis home with video camera in hand. She subsequently woke up countless other times to see him peering in her window.

    Each time, he disappeared before the police arrived. "It's very frightening," Arbuckle said. "It happened weekly, multiple times in a week."

    Arbuckle, then 28, finally came face to face with him one October evening and got him to stop ? but only by doing something most security experts say is extremely dangerous.

    She confronted him. "I just didn't want him to get away again," she told ABC News' Cynthia McFadden.

    The stalker ran from her, but Arbuckle embarked on a wild chase after him. When police finally caught him, they found out he was a convicted rapist who had been out of prison for two years when he started stalking Arbuckle.

    Robert Braun, 57, pleaded guilty to multiple counts of felony voyeurism. And even though he never physically harmed Arbuckle, because of his prior record and the photographs he took, he was given a 20-year sentence, with four years to be served behind bars, another two in home detention and probation for the remaining period.

    Arbuckle now recognizes what she did was not safe. But she added: "Everything happens for a reason. And I'm safe, I'm here today, and he's caught."

    She Had Enough

    Arbuckle, the manager of a physical therapy clinic, says to this day, she has no idea why she chased him. But in her conversation with McFadden, it appears Braun had pushed the fiercely independent single woman too far.

    When Braun started taking pictures from the windows, she made sure her blinds were closed.

    But then he started taking pictures from a high window in her front door and from beneath the window shades. One night he was even seen sitting on her front porch.

    "My biggest fear going through this is that I would wake up one night and he would be in my bedroom or in my house," Arbuckle said. She lived alone.

    Arbuckle added that she did not think about running away. "I did not want to be pushed around," she said. "I definitely had enough."

    Uncontrollable Situation

    Arbuckle got her face-to-face confrontation with Braun when she surprised him on a Wednesday evening as she was walking out to her car.

    He reacted, she told McFadden, by putting his hands in his pockets, turning around and walking away quickly. Arbuckle remembers thinking, "If he gets away this time, who knows what'll happen?"

    So she chased him down the street, and yelled, "Stop running!" She says when he turned around she asked him, "Why are you looking in my windows?"

    Arbuckle says he denied spying on her and said, "I don't know who you are, lady." But she was not willing to back off.

    "I said 'You do ? I've seen you.' The second I said that, his whole demeanor changed," Arbuckle remembers.

    Braun ran to his truck and tried to drive away, but Arbuckle jumped in the back. He tore off, screeching through the streets, while Arbuckle called the police from her cell phone.

    Arbuckle recounted what happened next: "He turned down a side street and slammed on the brakes and gets out of the truck, and he's reaching and grabbing at me and I'm kicking at him."

    She says she was scared. "I realized I was in a situation where I was out of control."

    Prelude to Worse?

    The police soon found Arbuckle and arrested Braun. They also found what they call a "rape kit" in his car: duct tape, oil and a leather mask.

    "This was not a high school prank," said Carl Brizzi, the county prosecutor in Indianapolis. "This was more than just peeping. He was working himself up. This was foreplay to commit a violent sex act."

    When police searched Braun's home, they found dozens of photographs of Arbuckle taken over the course of 11 months, some taken five months before she first saw Braun at her window. In some pictures, Arbuckle is naked.

    Arbuckle says she didn't realize the danger she had put herself in until after Braun had been arrested. "I had no idea," she said.

    "She acted on instinct," Brizzi said. "She's an incredibly heroic woman, but she's also very, very lucky ? and that's the one point about this ? jumping into the back of the car was something Hannah had to do out of desperation and fear ? certainly not something that we would encourage."

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Amos
    Date: 01 Apr 05 - 04:32 AM

    My hat's off to her. What a lady.


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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 09 Apr 05 - 12:15 AM

    A good subtitle: Wendy's fingers woman in chili complaint. . .

    Woman Claiming Finger in Chili Sues Often

    LAS VEGAS - The woman who claims she bit into a human finger while eating chili at a Wendy's restaurant has a history of filing lawsuits - including a claim against another fast-food restaurant.

    Anna Ayala, 39, who hired a San Jose, Calif., attorney to represent her in the Wendy's case, has been involved in at least half a dozen legal battles in the San Francisco Bay area, according to court records.

    She brought a suit against an ex-boss in 1998 for sexual harassment and sued an auto dealership in 2000, alleging the wheel fell off her car. That suit was dismissed after Ayala fired her lawyer, who said she had threatened him.

    The case against her former employer was settled in arbitration in June 2002, but it was not known whether she received any money.

    Speaking through the front door of her Las Vegas home Friday, Ayala claimed police are out to get her and were unnecessarily rough as they executed a search warrant at her home on Wednesday.

    "Lies, lies, lies, that's all I am hearing," she said. "They should look at Wendy's. What are they hiding? Why are we being victimized again and again?"

    Ayala acknowledged, however, that her family received a settlement for their medical expenses about a year ago after reporting that her daughter, Genesis, got sick from food at an El Pollo Loco restaurant in Las Vegas. She declined to provide any further details.

    San Jose police have joined the Las Vegas police fraud unit in the investigation into how a 1 1/2-inch-long fingertip ended up in Ayala's bowl of chili at the San Jose Wendy's on March 22. Ayala said Friday she had not yet filed a claim against Wendy's, and it was unclear whether she had filed suit against the franchise owner.

    Wendy's spokesman Bob Bertini would not comment on the investigation Friday.

    The company, however, maintains that the finger did not enter the food chain in its ingredients. The employees at the San Jose store were found to have all their fingers, and no suppliers of Wendy's ingredients have reported any hand or finger injuries, the company said.

    On Thursday, Wendy's offered a $50,000 reward to anyone providing verifiable information leading to the positive identification of the origin of the finger.

    "It's very important to our company to find out the truth in this incident," Tom Mueller, Wendy's president and chief operating officer, said in a statement.

    Investigators would not say what they were looking for in the search of Ayala's house. Ken Bono, a family friend who lives at the home, said officers searched freezers, a picnic cooler in the backyard and the belongings of an aunt who used to live at the house.

    The Santa Clara County Coroner's Office used a partial fingerprint to attempt to find a match in an electronic database of missing people and those with criminal histories, but came up empty. DNA testing is still being conducted on the finger.

    "The simple fact of the matter is that the finger came from somebody. Where's that person at?" said Sgt. Nick Muyo, a spokesman for the San Jose Police Department.

    Bertini said Wendy's stores in the area have suffered from declining sales since the incident.

    "Obviously the store has been down significantly," he said. "This has been an ordeal for all of us. Hopefully there will be a resolution soon."

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    From: Amos
    Date: 12 Apr 05 - 05:52 PM

    NASHVILLE, Tenn. Apr 12, 2005 ? A man was beaten to death after catching his wife's lover living in a closet in their home, police said Tuesday.

    Rafael DeJesus Rocha-Perez, 35, was charged with homicide in the slaying of 44-year-old Jeffrey A. Freeman over the weekend.

    "From time to time, you come across a case with very unique even bizarre circumstances," police spokesman Don Aaron said. "This one probably rates right up there with them."

    Freeman's wife had allowed Rocha-Perez to live in a closet of the Freemans' four-bedroom for about a month without her husband's knowledge, police said. On Sunday, her husband heard Rocha-Perez snoring and discovered him, authorities said.

    Freeman ordered his wife to get the man out of the house while he went for a walk, authorities said. Martha Freeman told authorities that when her husband returned, Rocha-Perez confronted him with a shotgun, forced him into a bathroom and bludgeoned him.

    The Freemans were co-owners of a company that does background checks for apartment rental and job applicants.

    Oh, irony!! I guess she didn't finish the basic staff training or something!


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    From: The Fooles Troupe
    Date: 13 Apr 05 - 06:53 AM

    Online Gamer Stabbed for Selling Cyber-Saber
    Wed Mar 30,10:23 AM ET

    BEIJING (Reuters) - A Shanghai online game player stabbed to death a competitor who sold his cyber-sword, the China Daily said Wednesday, creating a dilemma in China where no law exists for the ownership of virtual weapons.

    Qiu Chengwei, 41, stabbed competitor Zhu Caoyuan repeatedly in the chest after he was told Zhu had sold his "dragon saber," used in the popular online game, "Legend of Mir 3," the newspaper said a Shanghai court was told Tuesday.

    "Legend of Mir 3" features heroes and villains, sorcerers and warriors, many of whom wield enormous swords.

    Qiu and a friend jointly won their weapon last February, and lent it to Zhu who then sold it for 7,200 yuan (US$870), the newspaper said.

    Qui went to the police to report the "theft" but was told the weapon was not real property protected by law.

    "Zhu promised to hand over the cash but an angry Qui lost patience and attacked Zhu at his home, stabbing him in the left chest with great force and killing him," the court was told.

    The newspaper did not specify the charge against Qiu but said he had given himself up to police and already pleaded guilty to "intentional injury."

    No verdict has been announced.

    More and more online gamers were seeking justice through the courts over stolen weapons and credits, the newspaper said.

    "The armor and swords in games should be deemed as private property as players have to spend money and time for them," Wang Zongyu, an associate law professor at Beijing's Renmin University of China, was quoted as saying.

    But other experts are calling for caution. "The 'assets' of one player could mean nothing to others as they are by nature just data created by game providers," a lawyer for a Shanghai-based Internet game company was quoted as saying.

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    From: Amos
    Date: 13 Apr 05 - 09:19 AM

    COngrats to SRS for one-year survival of this entertaining thread.


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    From: GUEST,Stilly River Sage
    Date: 13 Apr 05 - 11:48 AM

    Thanks, Amos. I hadn't realized we'd passed an anniversary. This is for all intents and purposes a virtual scrap book (not a posession that someone could be murdered over!) It's clear by the regular set of posters that we are people who need a place to park those "clippings" of stories that are just too interesting to read and not share, though whatever makes them interesting certainly varies widely from day to day.


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    From: The Fooles Troupe
    Date: 13 Apr 05 - 07:33 PM

    I decided that I was getting too many Aussie political ones such as those about Ms Rau - so they now have their own thread.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Shanghaiceltic
    Date: 13 Apr 05 - 07:56 PM

    Re the killing of one gamer by another, the saddest thing is that this person will almost certainly get the bullet. Few murderers ever get pardoned here and the end will be swift. Normally about one week after a death sentence is passed it is carried out.

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    From: Acme
    Date: 13 Apr 05 - 08:09 PM

    I remember a recent evening when my son was very sad--he'd miscalculated the exchange rate in an online game and had severely short-changed himself on "stuff" he sold that he'd worked hard to get. I was sorry to see it happen, but at the same time, it probably was a good lesson to pay attention to what he's doing in a world of work and finance, whether virtual or the here and now.


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    From: Acme
    Date: 15 Apr 05 - 07:59 PM

    Here's one for you music lovers--you MUST attach those hefty speakers if you are going to use them in your car. (This isn't a joke--a child died and the law is a good outcome, but as I read this I wondered what on earth this guy was doing with a 56 pound speaker in his automobile?)

    Teens' efforts pay off with law
    Gov. Gregoire signs the Courtney Amisson Act, requiring car speakers to be bolted down.

    By Jerry Cornfield, Herald Writer

    OLYMPIA - A Snohomish teenager's death in 2002 has resulted in a new law requiring stereo speakers to be securely mounted inside vehicles.

    Gov. Christine Gregoire signed the Courtney Amisson Act on Thursday, saying she wanted to ensure that "out of this terrible tragedy comes some good."

    "We can all hope and pray that it will prevent anyone else from having happen to them what happened to Courtney," Gregoire said

    Courtney was a 15-year-old sophomore at Snohomish High School who died of injuries suffered when a 56-pound speaker struck her in the back of the head during a car accident.

    The law requires all stereo system equipment to be securely attached to the vehicle. Violations are a secondary traffic infraction, meaning a ticket can only be issued if a driver is stopped for another reason.

    "It's a bill that will save lives," said Carol Amisson, Courtney's mother. "It takes less than 10 bucks for bolts to secure the speaker."

    Ron Amisson, Courtney's father, said, "As simple as it would seem, it's amazing that it would have to come to the point of a law being made that somebody would have to be told to do this."

    The law also directs the state's Traffic Safety Commission to prepare and distribute educational materials on risks posed by unsecured items in cars and trucks. Carol Amisson said she would help in that effort, if asked.

    "Hopefully, no other parent will suffer the pain" of such a loss, she said.

    Several of Courtney's friends attended the signing of the law. They began pursuing the bill three months after her death.

    In each of the last three years, the students found a lawmaker to introduce the bill. They and Carol Amisson have testified at hearings each year.

    "I'm excited that it finally went through," said senior Missy Waldron, 17, who spoke at hearings in 2003.

    Carol Amisson praised the support and the perseverance of her daughter's friends. "At times when I couldn't squeak out a word, they'd touch my hand and say, 'We're doing it for Courtney.'"

    On Thursday, students remarked that it was not easy work and that it did not come quickly, but that it will make a difference. They said while most students know about Courtney's death, many are driving around with unsecured stereo speakers in the back windows of their cars.

    "People don't really care. They don't think about it, they just want the speakers and the sound," senior Julia Baggenstos said.

    Each year, about 300 Snohomish High seniors travel to Olympia to lobby lawmakers on legislation as part of a government class taught by Tuck Gionet, who attended Thursday's signing.

    This is the first of their proposed legislation to be signed into law.

    Shortly before Gregoire signed the bill, students, their parents and school leaders met with Reps. Hans Dunshee, D-Snohomish, and John Lovick, D-Mill Creek.

    "This is sort of a small thing for the rest of the people in the state, but it's a big thing for us," said Dunshee, prime sponsor of the bill this year. "We did this for Courtney."

    The law takes effect in 90 days.

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    From: Leadfingers
    Date: 15 Apr 05 - 08:55 PM

    I read in the paper that El Ted is laid up with Chicken pox , which makes it easy to move on to - - -

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    From: Leadfingers
    Date: 15 Apr 05 - 08:55 PM

    The 200 th post ( again) !!!!

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: GUEST,Charley Noble
    Date: 16 Apr 05 - 09:33 AM

    I was discussing this interesting story with a friend of mine:

    "Woman Claiming Finger in Chili Sues Often"

    and she claimed there's a follow-up story which alledged that the finger in question came from a hospital morgue.

    Can anyone else provide a link to a follow-up story? Inquiring minds really need more facts if we're to cook up a credible ballad.

    Charley Noble, alive and well in NYC

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 16 Apr 05 - 09:44 AM

    I read yesterday that Wendy's has put up a $50,000 reward, and today I see that it is now doubled to a $100,000 reward to try to get to the bottom of this. In their distribution chain they have discovered no person missing any limbs or digits. A morgue is probably a good guess, but I haven't seen it in print yet. Seattle P.I. story.

    Personally, I think Wendy's is onto something. Think of it--two pieces of finger find their way into a vat of chili. What are the odds that BOTH PIECES would end up in one bowl? They're clearly detatched in the photo. I think Ayala overplayed her hand (so to speak. . . sorry about that!). This is an instance when a little might have worked, but more isn't believable.


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    From: GUEST,Amos
    Date: 16 Apr 05 - 10:29 AM

    I liked one of the headlines on the reward story: "Who Gave Wendy's the Finger???"


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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: The Fooles Troupe
    Date: 16 Apr 05 - 06:17 PM

    Very good odds of both pieces in one bowl if they were in one piece BEFORE she bit into it...


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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 16 Apr 05 - 07:57 PM

    If you encountered something of that consistency in your bowl of soft beans and sauce, would you go ahead and bite down on it so hard that you bit through bone? Heck, I hate even encountering a little speck of bone that got into the ground meat, let along a big chunk.


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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: The Fooles Troupe
    Date: 17 Apr 05 - 05:01 AM

    This is the guy who had his licence revoked in the USA, then given a job in Aus...,5936,12869909%255E310 2,00.html

    Dr Death now pretending to be his brother

    Hedley Thomas

    IN THE comfort of a grand home in Portland, Oregon, someone purporting to be the younger brother of the man dubbed Dr Death, Jayant Patel, has been giving telephone interviews to journalists.

    He calls himself Jaydish. And he has a very high regard for Patel, whom he said had left for New York soon after being photographed by The Courier-Mail at the house.

    "I know he had a brilliant career over here (in the US)," he said.

    "He doesn't give a damn about Australia, probably. He has a lot of money and he just wants to travel around the world."

    The man spoke of Patel's work in Australia ­ he called it "the Third World" (just as Patel had described it while working at Bundaberg Base Hospital) and the heroism he understood his so-called brother had performed after the tilt train derailment.

    But within minutes of the interviews being broadcast in Australia, along with footage of a man standing at the front door of the home in North West Blue Grass Place, nurses and medical staff in Bundaberg began telephoning each other.

    They independently reached the same conclusion: that the man claiming to be the brother of Patel was Patel.

    "They are certain of it," Queensland Nurses Union secretary Gay Hawksworth said yesterday. "It seems to me that we have questions over his mental state."

    The union organised for footage from the US to be shown to the nurses who were adamant that it was Patel, not any fictitious brother.

    One of the nurses told The Courier-Mail: "It was definitely him. Believe me, we have listened to that voice for two years."

    Just when it seemed the scandal over the discredited and dangerous fraud given a $200,000-a-year job as Bundaberg Base Hospital's director of surgery could not get more surreal, Patel's behaviour has confirmed what nurses suspected: he is delusional.

    "His behaviour is psychopathic," said a medical source at Bundaberg Hospital.

    Even when being questioned by chief health officer Gerry FitzGerald about a trail of deaths and serious injuries arising from his surgery, Patel's self-confidence was bullet-proof.

    "His view was that everything was wonderful and he was looking after patients and doing a wonderful job," Dr FitzGerald recalled.

    Patient Doris Hillier, who was left with dreadful infections and open wounds for between four and six weeks after surgery by Patel, described him as "a barbaric animal who just liked to operate on people for his own self-glory".

    Hospital insiders recounted yesterday how Patel boasted of having worked for "15 years as a trauma surgeon in New York and many years as a cardio-thoracic surgeon", even as he botched relatively simple operations in Bundaberg.

    "He continually talked about how fabulous he was at the top of his voice. The secretaries loved him because he bought them gifts and told them how wonderful he was."

    He also told staff he had come to Bundaberg as part of his religion. He made himself known to the local Jehovah's Witness group and told them he knew all about their religion, and to call him if there was ever a problem.

    His zeal to operate was so great that even patients who had refused procedures were overruled. One man, according to a hospital insider, was emphatic he did not want a procedure but Patel began calling around family members until he found a distant relative who authorised the surgery.

    "One lady was booked to go to Brisbane to have a procedure," one medical staffer said. "Dr Patel found out and talked her into having it here. She had cancer of the oesophagus. She had the surgery and died in intensive care.

    "That's what he was like. If he found someone in the ward, he would walk in and want to operate."

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    From: The Fooles Troupe
    Date: 18 Apr 05 - 05:31 AM

    Tsunami carried bronze Buddha 1,000 kilometres across the ocean
    By Jan McGirk, South-East Asia Correspondent

    17 April 2005

    A little bronze-eyed idol to the west of Kathmandu is causing quite a stir.

    It's a Buddhist sage, and in mid-December the 5in figure was, like so many in rural Burma, placed in a little decorated kiosk, strapped to a crude bamboo raft and released on to the Irrawaddy river to drift to propitious sites and cast away evil. Down the delta it floated and then, a week or so later, the Boxing Day tsunami struck.

    Eight days on, 1,000 kilometres away, fishermen in Tamil Nadu spotted the raft floating offshore, its foil decorations glinting in the sunlight. Nine men set off in a boat to investigate and brought back a crude bamboo raft, lashed together with plastic clothesline and studded with silver-foil flowers. Its only passenger was a tiny crosslegged metal figure sitting on a plate inside a wooden hut. Three vases, a candle, some coins and a maroon monk's robe with the word "Burma" stitched on the tag were stashed alongside it.

    None of the villagers in Meyyurkuppam, a small Tamil fishing hamlet in southern India, could identify the foreign statue, but two Western aid workers suggested that it looked like a Buddha. Actually, it was a chubby Jalagupta figurine, held holy by Burmese Buddhists. Everything on board the raft was intact, and its arrival coincided with another extraordinary event in Meyyurkuppam - everyone in the village had survived the tsunami. Hence their insistence on pampering what local Hindus have called "Buddha-Swami" under their biggest banyan tree. Believers credit this floating statue with protecting all 980 inhabitants of Meyyurkuppam. The first post-tsunami cult was thereby created.

    One New Age priest reportedly claimed that its power against evil kept a controversial nuclear reactor from leaking radiation along their coastline, sparing tsunami survivors a slow death from cancer. At least 30 technical personnel living close to the Kalpakkam reactor perished in the tsunami, yet the facility stayed intact. More than 16,000 Indians died or are still missing after the huge waves reshaped the Bay of Bengal. No lives were lost in Meyyurkuppam.

    "It is a miracle," said Kuppurswamy, the village headman. "We keep a glass of water and a flower in front of the deity every day. We will worship him like we worship our own gods. Our village has accepted it as its own." Last week, as Buddhist images and relics in Burma, Thailand, Laos, Cambodia, Sri Lanka and southern China were ritually cleansed during the three-day Theravada New Year celebrations, the tiny Buddhist sage of Meyyurkuppam received ablutions, along with ceremonial offerings of rice sweetmeats. Fairy lights were strung around the new icon. "He will be kept here," said N Padavattan, a local boatman. "We are very happy with the arrival of this

    "This is part of a wondrous cycle," said Phra Vivek, a Bangkok monk. "Buddhism arrived in the river deltas of South-east Asia in the third century when the Indian emperor Ashoka sent missionaries to the Golden Land. Now the ocean has carried Buddhism back to its source."

    K Gurumurthy, from the Indo-Myanmar chamber of commerce, was sent by the Burmese embassy in New Delhi in February to examine the metal figurine, which was at first rumoured to be a valuable bronze dating from the 17th century. He told reporters it had little intrinsic value, but was a commonplace modern statuette, floated in their scores downstream during the rainy season in the Irrawaddy delta. But never has one travelled so far across the sea, and in India and Burma this little statue is considered auspicious.

    The villagers have now agreed to move their Buddha-Swami to a pagoda on high ground, because post-tsunami regulations prohibit any construction within 500 metres of the shoreline. Once the state government donates land for a new temple, the building, funded by the Burmese generals, will get under way. Meanwhile, the fishermen's families offer daily prayers to the new Buddha-Swami.

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    From: Acme
    Date: 19 Apr 05 - 11:11 AM

    Here's a story about the destruction of a cultural icon:

    Caltech Student Gets Prison for SUV Arson

    LOS ANGELES - A Caltech graduate student convicted of helping to firebomb scores of sport utility vehicles was sentenced to more than eight years in federal prison and ordered to pay $3.5 million in restitution.

    A federal judge Monday rejected William Jensen Cottrell's plea for leniency. "There's no way I'd ever be involved in anything like this again," Cottrell said. "I won't ever even jaywalk again."

    However, U.S. District Judge R. Gary Klausner said Cottrell had engaged in domestic terrorism and "we're very, very lucky" that no one was killed in the arson attacks. Cottrell, 24, was convicted in November of conspiracy to commit arson and seven counts of arson for an August 2003 vandalism spree that damaged and destroyed about 125 SUVs at dealerships and homes in the San Gabriel Valley east of Los Angeles.

    Cottrell was acquitted of using a destructive device - Molotov cocktails - in a crime of violence. That was the most serious charge he faced and it carried a sentence of at least 30 years in prison.

    At his trial, the prosecution had accused Cottrell of "arrogance" and a "towering superiority" toward people who did not share his environmental views. Cottrell had testified that SUV dealers were evil. The judge said he felt sorry for Cottrell, a doctoral candidate in the physics department at the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena, but he had only himself to blame.

    "What a talent to have wasted," Klausner said.

    Vandals used spray-paint to deface the vehicles with slogans such as "Fat, Lazy Americans," "polluter" and "ELF," for Earth Liberation Front, a radical environmental group. Prosecutors estimated the total damage at $2.3 million.

    Defense lawyers argued that Cottrell had agreed with two friends to spray-paint vehicles, but was surprised when they began to hurl Molotov cocktails.

    Federal prosecutors have identified former Caltech students Tyler Johnson and Michie Oe as "fugitive co-conspirators" in the case. It is believed that both have fled the country.

    Cottrell was arrested in March 2004 after authorities tracked e-mails sent to the Los Angeles Times. The sender said he was involved in the SUV attacks and affiliated with the Earth Liberation Front.

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    From: GUEST
    Date: 20 Apr 05 - 09:16 AM

    As the comic we get (not me mind you) in the UK known as the "Sun" put it - re Papal succession

    Papa Ratzi

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    From: The Fooles Troupe
    Date: 21 Apr 05 - 08:02 AM

    Paisley seeks horseshoe to rein in ancient witches' curse

    MARTIN WILLIAMS         April 19 2005

    THE lucky horseshoe is to some the stuff of irrational superstition and a wild imagination.

    But some community leaders are convinced one such horseshoe could hold the key to restraining an ancient witches' curse which it is claimed has bedevilled a town with bad luck for more than three decades.

    The horseshoe, which dates back to the seventeenth century, was unwittingly lost in the 1970s and some believe Paisley has been plagued by misfortune since.

    Piero Pieraccini, treasurer of the Paisley Development Trust, blamed high rates of violent crime, hardship and natural disasters, including flooding in the town, on the loss of an iron horseshoe which marks the communal grave of six men and women, who were believed to be the devil's disciples.

    The band were found guilty of witchcraft in 1697, hanged and publicly burned at the stake before their ashes were buried and the tomb sealed with the horse's stamp.

    Without the horseshoe, it is said, the town cannot prevent witches rising from the dead leaving the town at the mercy of their evil spirits.

    Now the trust has applied for a grant for almost £2500 from Renfrewshire Council to recast a brand new stainless steel horseshoe in the hope that it will bring good luck to Paisley.

    Mr Pieraccini added: "We have had a hell of a time in Paisley since that horseshoe vanished. Nothing has gone right for the town.

    "I believe it is because of the horseshoe and I definitely think it will make a huge difference if we repair it.

    "The local legend predicting that the prosperity of the town will suffer if the horseshoe was moved from the witches' grave seems to have come true."

    The witches were accused of placing a curse on 11-year-old Christian Shaw, daughter of the Laird of Bargarran at Erskine.

    Witnesses claimed they saw the weeping child floating through the air and regurgitate stones, coal, sticks and feathers after she was bewitched by the six. They were all found guilty at a trial in the town's Tolbooth and sentenced to death in front of hundreds of onlookers.

    The trust wants to return the horseshoe in time for the 308th anniversary of the witches' death.

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    From: The Fooles Troupe
    Date: 21 Apr 05 - 08:11 AM

    Yale Divinity Consultants Warned Air Force

    By ROBERT WELLER : Associated Press Writer
    Apr 20, 2005 : 10:42 pm ET

    DENVER -- Consultants from Yale Divinity School told the Air Force Academy last summer that a Protestant chaplain had promoted Christianity with a fire-and-brimstone warning during cadet basic training.

    The Yale report, a copy of which was obtained by The Associated Press, was compiled after the visitors attended the training at the academy's request in July.

    Academy spokesman Johnny Whitaker said Wednesday that commanders had taken the Yale report into consideration when they developed religious tolerance classes that are now mandatory for cadets and staff.

    The classes were a response to complaints that evangelical Christians wield so much influence at the school that anti-Semitism and other forms of religious harassment have become pervasive.

    "We're making strides out here. We recognize the problem," Whitaker said.

    The academy, still emerging from a sexual assault scandal, had asked the Yale team to review how the school's chaplains serve cadets.

    Kristen Leslie, a Yale professor of pastoral care who led the group, said the chaplain told 600 cadets "to go back to their tents and tell their fellow cadets that those who are not born again will burn in the fires of hell."

    She said the fact that the people speaking to cadets were in positions of power "suggests the cadets were supposed to assume this was the party line."

    In the religious tolerance classes, cadets and staff are told that teachers and commanders should not invite cadets to attend their churches. Whitaker said the academy is developing a follow-up program that will include firmer boundaries on permissible behavior.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: GUEST,Stilly River Sage
    Date: 22 Apr 05 - 10:40 AM

    Since I have posted about this story before I'll continue it here. It doesn't need a thread of its own, even though this woman is into finger-picking.

    Woman who found finger arrested
    Police raid Vegas home of Wendy's diner who claimed bowl of chili was tainted
    - Ryan Kim, Chronicle Staff Writer, Friday, April 22, 2005

    Anna Ayala, the Las Vegas woman who claimed to have bitten into a severed finger at a San Jose Wendy's restaurant, was arrested Thursday night in connection with the case, San Jose police said.

    San Jose police spokesman Enrique Garcia said Ayala, 39, was arrested, but he declined to provide further details. "We've arrested her in connection with the Wendy's investigation. She's currently in custody'' in Las Vegas, said Garcia late Thursday night.

    Police did not say on what charges Ayala was arrested. A press conference is scheduled at the San Jose Police Department at 1 p.m. today to discuss details about the arrest, Garcia said. A Clark County Detention Center official said Ayala was booked Thursday night as a fugitive from San Jose.

    Family friend Ken Bono said officers raided the home around 9 p.m. and caught Ayala alone as she was watching "Meet the Fockers" on video. "I had just left to get some soda at the store, and when I came back she was gone and there were cars from the (Las Vegas and San Jose) police," said Bono, 23, who lives with Ayala. "They said it for grand theft or something."

    Bono said Ayala is innocent and eventually will be exonerated. He said she has been unfairly targeted by the police and Wendy's International Inc. "They don't got jack s -- . They got her for something she didn't do. It's just something Wendy's is trying to do to her," Bono said.

    The arrest comes almost a month after Ayala visited the Wendy's restaurant in San Jose on Monterey Road, where she says she bit into a 1 1/2- inch fingertip as she ate a bowl of chili. Her March 22 report prompted several investigations -- including one by San Jose police and another by Wendy's, which concluded Thursday that the finger did not originate in its food preparations or ingredients. Wendy's officials declined comment Thursday night on Ayala's arrest, saying they had not been contacted by law enforcement.

    After her reported discovery of the finger, Ayala said she had trouble eating and sleeping and was forced to take medicine to help settle her nerves. At one point, she recounted her horror at finding the finger on ABC-TV's "Good Morning America." On April 6, investigators served a search warrant on Ayala's Las Vegas home. Ayala, who has steadfastly maintained she did not plant the finger, accused police of harassment.

    She initially filed a claim against Wendy's but withdrew it after the raid, saying the media and police scrutiny was causing her family "emotional distress."

    "People can say what they want and destroy my family, but it's not true," Ayala said last week. "This is really ruining my kids and me and dragging my family through the mud. It's killing us."

    Ayala has a history of filing unsuccessful legal claims against companies. Ayala claimed that she had received a $30,000 settlement from the El Pollo Loco restaurant chain after her 13-year-old daughter fell ill with food poisoning. But El Pollo Loco officials said Ayala had been paid nothing in response to her claim. In 2000, Ayala sued a San Jose car dealership and Goodyear Tire Corp., and in 1999 she filed a sexual harassment suit against La Oferta Review, a San Jose Spanish-language newspaper.

    The finger case took another turn last week when authorities compared the Wendy's finger with the DNA of a woman whose fingertip was chewed off by a leopard in Nevada. Authorities, however, ruled out a match. The probe put to rest speculation that the finger might be that of Sandy Allman, 59, of Pahrump, Nev. Allman lost the tip of a finger Feb. 23 when a leopard kept on her rural property attacked her.

    The case of the Wendy's finger has drawn media attention from around the world and, according to Wendy's officials, led to a sharp drop in sales. Last week, Wendy's doubled its reward to $100,000 for leads in finding the finger's original owner. On Thursday, Wendy's announced it would offer free Frosty shakes to all Bay Area customers this weekend as a show of goodwill and commitment in the wake of its investigation.

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    From: Amos
    Date: 23 Apr 05 - 01:20 PM

    I guess this calls for an oral deposition:

    CHICAGO - An appeals court said a man can press a claim for emotional distress after learning a former lover had used his sperm to have a baby. But he can't claim theft, the ruling said, because the sperm were hers to keep.

    The ruling Wednesday by the Illinois Appellate Court sends Dr. Richard O. Phillips' distress case back to trial court.

    Phillips accuses Dr. Sharon Irons of a "calculated, profound personal betrayal" after their affair six years ago, saying she secretly kept semen after they had oral sex, then used it to get pregnant.

    He said he didn't find out about the child for nearly two years, when Irons filed a paternity lawsuit. DNA tests confirmed Phillips was the father, the court papers state.

    Phillips was ordered to pay about $800 a month in child support, said Irons' attorney, Enrico Mirabelli.

    Phillips sued Irons, claiming he has had trouble sleeping and eating and has been haunted by "feelings of being trapped in a nightmare," court papers state.

    Irons responded that her alleged actions weren't "truly extreme and outrageous" and that Phillips' pain wasn't bad enough to merit a lawsuit. The circuit court agreed and dismissed Phillips' lawsuit in 2003.

    But the higher court ruled that, if Phillips' story is true, Irons "deceitfully engaged in sexual acts, which no reasonable person would expect could result in pregnancy, to use plaintiff's sperm in an unorthodox, unanticipated manner yielding extreme consequences."

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 23 Apr 05 - 02:22 PM

    I agree with the higher court. It's one thing to do that if she was desperate to have a child and didn't want a permanent partner, but she didn't have his consent, so if she was going to be sneaky about it to begin with, she shouldn't have sued for the child support. That's having her sperm and eating it, too.

    Even though I started this thread, I have my hat, so I'll just leave by the back door.

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    From: Acme
    Date: 25 Apr 05 - 02:11 PM

    Nice day for a wet wedding
    A Mill Creek couple take their vows underwater

    By Bill Sheets, Herald Writer

    WEST SEATTLE - Melanie Clark and Curt McNamee took the plunge Sunday.

    The Mill Creek couple did so literally as well as figuratively, as they got married underwater in their scuba gear in a cove on Elliott Bay in West Seattle. McNamee, 54, has been diving since 1971, and Clark, 31, is a dive instructor. The two met at the Lighthouse dive shop in Lynnwood about three years ago. McNamee took one of Clark's classes, and the two began diving together. "It's through our mutual diving experiences that our bond was created," McNamee said.

    The idea for the underwater wedding was McNamee's. "I'm the diving guru, but Curt felt this was the way to go," Clark said, adding she was all for the idea.

    The bride wore a white lace dress and veil over her scuba gear, outfitted with lead fishing weights to keep them from floating upward, and she carried a bouquet of plastic flowers. The groom wore a T-shirt made to resemble a tuxedo and a black plastic top hat atop his diving hood.

    The ceremony began on the rocky beach, and then the bride and groom, the pastor and about 20 diver friends slowly disappeared into about 15 feet of water, where the couple exchanged their vows. The ceremony was performed by John Burkholder of Monroe, a friend of McNamee's for 19 years. Burkholder had done some diving years ago, but had to be re-educated to do the ceremony, McNamee said.

    Another diver taped the ceremony, and it was shown on three close-circuit TVs set up under a canopy onshore. The more than 50 in attendance - plus numerous passersby - watched with a mixture of laughter and curiosity. "It's different," said Clark's mother, Rosemary Patterson, who came from her home in Calgary, Alberta, for the wedding. "She lives diving; it's her love," she said of her daughter.

    "It's fabulous," said bystander Carol Nicholson, whose mother lives across the street from the beach.

    The water was murky, some of the divers said. The picture on two of the TVs was dark, but on a third the couple and others could be seen clearly. The couple used laminated flash cards to recite their vows, mouthing along with them the best they could through their scuba gear. When the card "I do" appeared on the TV screens, the crowd erupted into a cheer. The "rings" resembled large pipe nuts and were slipped on for symbolism's sake. The couple's real rings were worn underneath their diving gloves.

    Then a sign was held in front of the underwater camera: "You May Kiss the Bride." The two pulled out their mouthpieces long enough to kiss. The wedding party then bobbed to the surface, and the couple emerged to another cheer. A boat picked them up and drove them on a "victory lap," then dropped them off on a nearby pier.

    Their unusual hitching went off without a hitch, mostly. The officiant's wet suit wasn't properly weighted, so some in the wedding party had to hold him down to keep him from ascending.

    "The visibility wasn't very good in the water," McNamee said, still dripping wet shortly after the ceremony. "But you know what, it's OK."

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    From: Acme
    Date: 25 Apr 05 - 02:27 PM

    This story kind of rambles (it's actually three stories lumped together). I have a friend who "fosters" cats for the humane society--it's darned hard work to take care of a lot of animals even when you know what you're doing.

    'Cat Hoarder' Forced to Give Up 70 Felines
    Shelter Takes in More Than 70 Felines Turned Over by Maine Man Who Officials Call 'Cat Hoarder'

    BRUNSWICK, Maine Apr. 24, 2005 - An animal shelter has taken in more than 70 cats that were given up by their owner in what officials described as a case of "animal hoarding." Sharon Turner, director of the Coastal Humane Society, said the man who had the cats is a hoarder and that hoarding "is a bona fide mental illness" related to obsessive compulsive disorder.

    An animal hoarder "is a person who amasses more animals than he/she can properly care for. Such individuals generally fail to recognize or refuse to acknowledge when the animals in their custody become victims of gross neglect," the Humane Society of the United States said on its Web site. Turner said the cats' owner had been working with the shelter over a couple of years to build up trust. Finally, she said, he recognized his financial limitations and "did absolutely the right thing" by giving the cats to the shelter.

    The shelter's staff scrambled Wednesday to accommodate the frightened felines at the same time they were accepting 12 of 92 English springer spaniels and puppies seized last week from a kennel in Dover-Foxcroft.

    Turner said the fuzzy cats were in unusually good condition given the circumstances. Some have wounds and burned paws from urine exposure, while others have upper respiratory illnesses that can affect the eyes. Other problems, she said, are a result of inbreeding.

    In the Washington County town of Waite, animal control officers responding to a tip seized 12 dehydrated dogs Wednesday from a mobile home and found the bodies of 18 more. The dogs living at the homes were all huskies except for one bichon frise, said Jennifer Howell, an agent with the state Animal Welfare Program. "Most of them were really thin, and a few were emaciated," she said. "They had no food and no water and inadequate shelter."

    The owner, whose name was not released, signed over control of the dogs to animal control officials, who took them to the Central Aroostook County Humane Society in Presque Isle.

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    From: Donuel
    Date: 25 Apr 05 - 06:10 PM

    Thanks Sage. Wendy's should now advertise that their chili is now Finger Free.

    I was wondering if we should ask the Rabbi if sperm is kosher.

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    From: Amos
    Date: 25 Apr 05 - 06:18 PM

    FInger-licking Good!


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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Amos
    Date: 26 Apr 05 - 09:30 AM

    Some guys just HAVE to live interesting lives:

    Man Says He Kept Mom In Freezer To Collect Her Checks

    He Was Afraid People Would Think He Killed Her

    LA CROSSE, Wis. -- Wisconsin authorities said a man told them he kept his mother's body in a freezer for more than four years to collect her Social Security checks.
    A woman's body was found encased in ice, in a sitting position.
    Police said Philip Schuth told them his mother died of natural causes in 2000, but that he was afraid to notify police because he thought they wouldn't believe him.
    Investigators found the freezer at the end of an all-night standoff at Schuth's home in the town of Campbell. A neighbor was shot during a dispute and SWAT teams responded.
    Schuth surrendered without incident. Investigators found 15 to 20 homemade explosive devices and more than a dozen firearms.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 26 Apr 05 - 10:36 AM

    Amos, you beat me to this story, but I have a longer version, so I'll post it:

    Schuth: Mother died in 2000

    By Dan Springer / Lee Newspapers

    LA CROSSE, Wis. ? Philip Schuth said his mother died of natural causes in 2000, but he hid her body in a chest freezer because he was afraid of being charged with murder. He was particularly worried investigators would find her blood splattered on the wall of an upstairs hallway. It was from when a cat attacked her years before her death, he said. So he kept her death a secret for 41/2 years ? painting over the blood and living off her Social Security checks, which were electronically deposited in a joint account. He also kept secret the "anti-personnel" bombs and a stash of guns in his basement, and set up booby traps in the house.

    Those are some of the revelations made in a probable cause statement filed Monday in La Crosse County Court. According to the affidavit by Capt. Jeff Wolf of the sheriff's department, Schuth revealed his secrets to negotiators this weekend during a 14-hour standoff with police that began Friday evening. It began after Schuth reportedly struck a 10-year-old child and then shot the boy's father, who with his wife had driven to Schuth's home on French Island to confront him about the assault. The man, Randy Russell Jr., was treated for gunshot wounds to the right shoulder and released from Gundersen Lutheran Medical Center later that evening.

    Schuth retreated into his home at 1330 Bainbridge St. and refused to come out. Investigators said that during the negotiations Schuth said he put his mother, Edith Schuth, in the freezer when she died Aug. 15, 2000. Schuth gave himself up Saturday morning, and officers searched the home.

    Officers brought the freezer to the sheriff's department, where they took it apart. They chipped away enough of the roughly 300-pound block of ice to reveal an intact corpse in a sitting position. Police believe Edith Schuth was born 90 or 91 years ago. Officers also found 15 loaded handguns and homemade explosive devices Schuth said would be there, according to the affidavit.

    The home had very little furniture and there was no running water, but Schuth had more than $10,000 in cash in the home and another $25,000 in a bank account, even though Schuth said he has not worked steadily in years, investigators said. Schuth said he calculated that without continuing income that money in the account would be depleted in about five years due to taxes, and he said he contemplated either killing himself or committing an armed robbery for which he would be immediately apprehended, said the affidavit.

    At his first court appearance Monday, Schuth rocked gently in his courtroom chair and chatted with another inmate as he waited for the hearing to begin. At the hearing, Schuth said very little except to inform La Crosse County Circuit Judge Ramona Gonzalez that his name is pronounced "Schuf."

    Gonzalez ordered Schuth held on a $100,000 cash bond after La Crosse County District Attorney Scott Horne said charges will not be filed until next week. Horne said he wants to wait until an autopsy is done to file charges.

    When Schuth is next in court May 3, he could face a variety of charges including attempted homicide and two counts of first-degree reckless endangerment in connection with Friday's shooting. And, three counts of possession of improvised explosive devices, concealing a corpse and possession of a short-barreled shotgun, Horne said. Since the body was still frozen Monday, a forensic pathologist in Hastings, Minn., said the autopsy will have to be delayed until at least Thursday. While Horne said he does not believe Schuth killed his mother, the case is being treated as a homicide.

    While Schuth was cooperative, he also warned negotiators that if officers entered his home with loaded guns it was going to be "high noon," according to the affidavit. He also told negotiators that he had more than 10, but less than 100 "anti-personnel devices" in the home, and when officers later searched the home they found two large shopping bags containing 15 to 20 explosive devices. The Dane County Bomb Squad examined the devices, Sunday discovering they were filled with explosive powder and metal objects including nails, heavy duty staples and other metal items, according to the affidavit. The squad detonated one to confirm the devices were functional.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Amos
    Date: 26 Apr 05 - 11:19 AM

    She was a cold, hard woman, plainly. But I think his management of things has had a chilling effect on her freedom of speech.


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    From: Acme
    Date: 26 Apr 05 - 11:32 AM

    That must have been some hum-dinger of a cat attack. I had a serious bite a few years ago, was nearly hospitalized from the infection, but it bled a bit, it didn't splatter.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 26 Apr 05 - 12:11 PM

    Reading a lot today. Here's a remarkable one (it probably deserves better company that the sperm donor and the finger-tip hoax).

    Injured Colo. Skier Rescued a Week Later
    April 26

    DENVER - Charles Horton, a massage therapist and experienced outdoorsman, broke his leg April 17 on what was to have been a one-day ski trip. Eight days, later authorities found him cold, hungry - and very much alive.

    Horton spent the time alone in the wilderness near Steamboat Springs, about 100 miles northwest of Denver, sleeping under snowcapped trees and in rudimentary shelters. On day No. 3, the experienced outdoorsman began using his elbows to drag himself across the frozen ground in an attempt to get to his car 3 miles away.

    It wasn't until Sunday that longtime friend and landlord Johnny Walker returned from a vacation and found Horton's cat was unfed, his plants needed water and there was a slew of phone messages wondering why Horton had missed massage appointments.

    "My heart just sank," Walker said. "It was going to be a horrible loss."

    Walker called the Rio Blanco County Sheriff's Office. After a one-hour search, rescue workers found Horton early Monday morning on a snow-covered road used by the U.S. Forest Service not far from town.

    Horton, 55, of Steamboat Springs, was dehydrated and suffering from minor frostbite and mild hypothermia. He was hospitalized in fair condition Tuesday, authorities said.

    "His skills and knowledge, his gear and his will to live are what kept him alive," said Sgt. Anthony Mazzola of the Rio Blanco County Sheriff's Office. "This is stuff books are written about."

    Horton hadn't told anyone when he expected to return, and almost everyone who knew him was out of town, his friend Mary O'Brien said.

    "His co-workers were gone, I was gone, his girlfriend was gone. We were all missing the fact that he was missing," she said. "It was a mad mess."

    O'Brien said Horton spent the first two nights under a tree, sleeping on boughs and building a fire to keep warm. Temperatures dipped into the 20s at midweek when a cold front moved through, but little snow fell, National Weather Service meteorologist Dave Nadler said.

    On Tuesday, he decided to start toward his car. Crawling on his back, supporting himself with his elbows and dragging his broken leg behind, he covered about 200 yards in 10 hours, O'Brien said.

    "He decided it was taking too much energy to move, so he decide he was staying put," she said.

    Rescuers found him about two miles from their command center, barely able to speak. Searchers on snowmobiles would periodically stop, shut down their engines and blow whistles. On one stop, they heard Horton blowing his whistle in response.

    "We all said that if anybody could (survive), it would be him," O'Brien said. "He had the personality and the skill. He's not the type that would panic."

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Charley Noble
    Date: 26 Apr 05 - 05:55 PM

    With regard to the frigid mother, I'm reminded of this old limerick:

    There was a young widow named Brice,
    Who kept her dead husband on ice;
    She said, "T'was hard when I lost him,
    I'll never defrost him;
    Cold comfort but cheap at the price."

    Who knows, maybe we'll find an appropriate article any day now!

    Amos- "oral deposition" smacks of "contempt of court." You should be ashamed to make such a suggestion...

    Charley Noble

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 29 Apr 05 - 12:56 PM

    Men Who Claimed to Find Treasure Arrested
    April 29, 2005

    LAWRENCE, Mass. - Two men who made national headlines by claiming they found a buried treasure in the back yard of a home were charged Friday with stealing the collection of old currency from a house where they were working. Barry Billcliff, 27, of Manchester, N.H., and Timothy Crebase, 22, of Methuen, Mass., were charged with receiving stolen property, conspiracy and accessory after the fact, Methuen Police Lt. Kevin Martin said. The men were to be arraigned Friday.

    Crebase told investigators the men found the money in the gutter of a barn they were hired to repair, according to the Eagle-Tribune newspaper of Lawrence. The men had made several appearances on national television this week, and police noticed details of the story changed with each appearance.

    Police Chief Joseph E. Solomon told ABC's "Good Morning America" that authorities might never have suspected anything had the men not sought publicity. "Had they just put the money away or, you know, gone somewhere outside of the area and sold a little money at a time, I don't think anybody would have known or suspected anything," Solomon said. "Sometimes wanting to be famous is really the downfall of people."

    The arrest interrupted the men's planned appearance Thursday night on ABC's "Jimmy Kimmel Live" because they were being booked by police around the time the show was airing. They were to have been interviewed from the yard where they claimed to have found the money while digging. The men said they found 1,800 bank notes and bills dating between 1899 and 1928 while digging in the yard of the house Crebase rents.

    The materials had a face value of about $7,000. Domenic Mangano, owner of the Village Coin Shop in Plaistow, N.H., examined the find and said the currency was authentic. He gave varying estimates of its worth, ranging from $50,000 to $100,000.

    The men's stories, though, attracted suspicion because of discrepancies. The depth of the buried crate, for example, ranged from 9 inches to 2 feet. The men also gave conflicting reasons for digging in Crebase's yard. They told one reporter they were preparing to plant a tree. In other reports, they said they were trying to remove a small tree or dig up the roots of a shrub that was damaging the home's foundation.

    Billcliff insisted the discrepancies in the story of how the money happened found could be explained. "It's like watching a car accident," he told the newspaper. "Sometimes someone will say something and someone else will say something slightly different, but mostly it's the same."

    Christine Tetlow of Manchester, N.H., who identified herself as a longtime friend of Billcliff, defended him and said the pair did not steal the money. "If you need money, he'll be the first person to step up and give it to you and never ask to get it back," she said.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 29 Apr 05 - 03:33 PM

    Maybe it's just because it's a Friday, but the headlines are really getting wierd. This is the as-is list of news stories that appears on my IP personal web page this afternoon:

        * Ga. Bride-To-Be's Family Announces Reward
        * L.A. on Edge After Freeway Shootings
        * Mother Charged in Stabbing Deaths of Kids
        * House GOP Plans Social Security Draft
        * Men Who Claimed to Find Treasure Arrested

    Technology News

        * Spitzer Sues Intermix Over 'Spyware'
        * Verizon Pulling Plug on Free NYC Wi-Fi
        * Cinema Owners Seek to Curb Phone Rage
        * European Digital Library Is Proposed
        * Bahrain Site Registration Sparks Protests

    Health and Lifestyle News

        * FDA OKs Lizard-Derived Shot for Diabetes
        * Girl Sticks Schoolmates With Used Needle
        * CDC Pushing New Mosquito Repellents
        * Study Links Middle Age Obesity to Dementia
        * Eli Lilly Halts Child Sepsis Study

    Stabbings, kidnappings, phone rage, lizard shots, needle sticks, child sepsis? Whew!

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Amos
    Date: 29 Apr 05 - 04:30 PM

    Under a kinder and gentler regime, SPring is the time when young men's hearts turn to thoughts of love.

    Under the present one, they turn to thoughts of embezzlement and physical harm.


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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Burke
    Date: 30 Apr 05 - 03:43 PM

    Of course Stilly's 1st headline from 3:30 yesterday has some follow-up's

    Missing Georgia bride-to-be found alive in New Mexico
       "released by her captors and was able to contact authorities."

    Bride-to-Be Admits Making Up Kidnap Story
    Missing Georgia Bride-To-Be Found with Cold Feet

    I hate to say it, but why was this woman's disappearance national news? If someone disappears 2 days before the wedding, don't you just figure on it being cold feet?

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Amos
    Date: 30 Apr 05 - 05:08 PM

    Look at the advertising dollars that the news outlets pulled in electrifying the nation on the Lacie Peterson story.

    Anything that has that kind of potential gets editors pounding their desks for story, man!!


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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Amos
    Date: 01 May 05 - 12:25 AM

    From a recent edition of the RRUssian newpaper Pravda, a sort of National Enquirer :

    Doctors from Russia's Ulyanovsk ask local authorities for help

    The doctors in the Russian city of Ulyanovsk are raising the alarm. Not only they are paid peanuts for their work, they seem to be running the highest occupational risks in town. The patients have been beating up the doctors in Ulyanovsk's hospitals on a regular basis. The personnel of one of the hospital emergency rooms were the first to lose their patience. Three doctors and two nurses suffered abuse from the patients of that room over a short period of time. You just can not treat the patients because they are often under the influence and ready to insult you verbally or use their fists at first opportunity.

    The doctors had to call on the deputies of the city parliament. They requested the deputies to take urgent measures so that armed guards might be constantly available on hospital premises. They also requested that an alarm system with an emergency button for calling the police should be installed. Deputies discussed the issues at a special meeting of the committee for health and social development of the Ulyanovsk parliament. However, the problem boils down to money which is too tight to mention. Monthly costs of an emergency button alarm system amount to 10,000 rubles. The city authorities say they have no such sum in their coffers. The deputies finally decided that the doctors would have to cover the costs of their security by paying with the money charged for paid medical services.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: GUEST,Mary Jo
    Date: 02 May 05 - 06:16 AM

    I am replying to this post:

    From: Stilly River Sage
    Date: 15 Apr 04 - 01:53 PM

    Civil liberties gone amuck? Or is California just more whacko that usual?

    Thursday, April 15, 2004

          Serial child molester is set free


          In the spring of 1996, Blue Kartak was a baby-faced 16-year-old runaway in Seattle when he met a friendly man at a coffeehouse who promised to take him to Disneyland.
          The man turned out to be a serial child molester who drugged and raped Kartak in a motel room in California.

          His attacker, Edward Harvey Stokes, was convicted and given a life sentence for the crime. But last week, Stokes -- who's said he has attacked more than 200 victims -- walked out of a California jail as a free man and moved back to Washington state. The reason: A state appeals court ruled he never had a chance to confront his accuser -- Kartak -- who committed suicide before Stokes' trial.

    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
    Just for your information, I am the Aunt of Blue Kartak, the 16 year old who commited suicide. Blue was not 16 when he killed himself. He was in his twenties. He was married and had a son of his own.

    There is more to this story than they tell you in the news. Like the fact that Blues dad, my older brother Pete, is also a pediphile, drug lord and general maniac. Having grown up with my brother, I had many reasons to take my own life, and I am afraid the molestation by this stranger had only a little to do with Blues suicide, mostly that it was the stick that broke the camels back. No more. The whole Kartak family is unhealthy and sick with denial, alcohalism, blame and lies. Poor Blue was a victim of his own family! I know what Pete did to me and my brother Kevin and am horrified at the thought of what he may have done to his own son!

    I came across this thread while doing a search on my family members, all who do not communicate together any more because of a family history of alcohalism and denial that there was insest in the family. This is what happens when families do not face up to facts and instead blame everyone else outside the family for their families ills. This pediphile was not the only or sole cause to Blues untimely death, I can not stress that enough!!!!!

    Sign me, the only one healthy and talking. Too bad my family cant shut me up...but they are the ones who are sick!! Please keep them in your prayers!!!!
    Mary Jo

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Charley Noble
    Date: 02 May 05 - 08:40 AM

    Mary Jo-

    Thanks for having the courage to post the rest of the story. Good luck to you in your effort to escape the family you so graphically describe.

    Charley Noble

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Charley Noble
    Date: 02 May 05 - 08:44 AM

    I was also viewing today on the morning news the story of the "Killer Squirrels of Portland-West" who have been attacking joggers in packs. Where will it end?

    I wonder if they bury the leftovers for subsequent snacks.

    Charley Noble

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 02 May 05 - 10:54 AM

    I'd forgotten about that story, but the outcome isn't surprising. My mom worked for Child Protective Services in Washington State, and from the stories she would tell, it was clear that it was an uphill battle to try to help families and family members in this kind of situation. The united front of a dysfunctional family is hard to get past--their word versus the word of who? an anonymous source, or a curious social worker?

    This thread is meant to call attention to interesting stories, but if any of them need more discussion then they merit threads of their own, or at least categories more specific to the topic, so don't be discouraged by any brief discussion of the topic here. These articles are posted to be viewed along the lines of think pieces.


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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 02 May 05 - 11:03 AM

    I hope no one thinks I'm ducking the previous issue, but I logged on this morning to post this story:

    Downtown D.C. Duck, Offspring Get New Home
    photo (probably not a durable link)
    ADELE STARR May 02, 2005

    WASHINGTON - The hottest new tourist site in the nation's capital is no more. After a boffo four-week run, the Treasury duck has been moved from her prime nesting spot in the midst of heavy tourist traffic a block from the White House to a more peaceful setting along a quietly flowing stream.

    The mallards in the classic children's book "Make Way for Ducklings" may have only needed the help of the Boston police department for their relocation, but their Washington relatives got assistance from several federal agencies. The Secret Service uniformed division provided security during the four weeks the mother mallard, given various nicknames from T-bill to Quacks Reform, was sitting on her eggs. A metal barricade was constructed and then expanded it as the tourist crowds wanting to get a look grew larger.

    The ducklings all hatched on Saturday, and surprisingly there were 11, not nine. Biologists had missed two eggs when they made their initial count. The wildlife experts picked Sunday as moving day, believing the ducklings needed one day to get acclimated to their mother in the original nest.

    The transfer had been mapped out like a military operation. Officials of the Treasury Department, where the expertise runs to money matters not wildlife, called for help from specialists from the National Park Service and the Agriculture Department. The mother mallard, who had gained fame from appearances on national television and in newspapers around the world, squawked only briefly as USDA biologists gently nabbed her and the 11 ducklings and placed them in cages for the 15-minute motorcade to Rock Creek Park.

    Once at the park, the ducks were placed in a holding pen to get used to their new surroundings. There was some concern among the biologists that the mother duck could become so alarmed by the move that she might fly off, abandoning her offspring. However, those worries proved unfounded. After just a few seconds, the mother found an opening in the pen and waddled out, heading straight for the nearby creek.

    Her ducklings scurried behind in a single line - all but Duckling No. 11, who had a little trouble getting going. It stumbled at first, landing on its back with its webbed feet waving in the air. But it quickly righted itself, only to trip again and then tumble down the muddy creek bank, plopping into the water. From there, all 11 ducklings formed a line paddling after their mother and set out to explore their new surroundings.

    "We have a healthy duck population here and we are happy to take the new additions under our wings," said Laura Illige, chief ranger at Rock Creek Park.

    Back on Pennsylvania Avenue, the metal barricades had already been dismantled and the former duck nesting place was once again just a mulch pile surrounding an elm tree.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 05 May 05 - 08:13 PM

    This newspaper printing plant, where Rusty lives, is about three blocks from my house. I pass his enclosure regularly. We'll miss him!

    The end of the trail arrives for Rusty

    By Barry Shlachter, Star-Telegram Staff Writer

    Rusty, a Texas longhorn steer who long served as the Star-Telegram's mascot and won fame by competing against investment experts as a stock picker, is headed for the last roundup.

    The gentle 20-year-old bovine, often the highlight of printing plant tours for thousands of schoolchildren every year, was examined at Texas A&M University in College Station last week. Veterinarians determined that eight lumps below his jaw are tumors, some nearly 4 inches wide.

    "I would say multiple tumors is typically considered not treatable," said Dr. Wesley Bissett, an assistant professor at A&M's College of Veterinary Medicine.

    The steer is expected to be returned to Fort Worth this afternoon and euthanized.

    Rusty racked up a creditable record in choosing stocks each year by dropping cow pies on a numbered grid in a pen. Each square represented either a locally based company or a major local employer.

    Perhaps not surprisingly, Rusty was more successful during bull markets. He realized a 62.9 percent gain in 1997, his first year of stock picking, against the experts' gain of 22.6 percent. Overall, Rusty won four out of eight years, although he's trailing in 2005.

    "It's quite humbling when Rusty wins by putting the cow pies on certain squares -- and it's also revealing to those competing just how difficult it is to select individual equities, and succeed year after year after year," said Jerry Singleton, 65, president of Signal Securities.

    Singleton, who competed against Rusty four years without losing, said North Texas financial professionals risked "ridicule and happy hour jibes" by signing up to go toe-to-hoof with the steer.

    "Frankly, I've heard people say they dared not do it -- 'What if the bull beat me? How would I look?' " he said.

    Rusty was highlighted on CNBC's Power Lunch stock market program, in BusinessWeek magazine, on National Public Radio's The Motley Fool Radio Show and on numerous regional TV and radio reports.

    Stock picking wasn't the steer's only claim to fame.

    At the Texas Longhorn Breeders Association of America 2000 World Expo, Rusty took first place for conformation, meaning his physical characteristics were that of a classic longhorn, said Larry Barker, an association official. Rusty's hide is speckled red with a white lineback.

    "Rusty is a magnificent steer with a great set of horns, a true-to-type longhorn," Barker said. "He could have made it up the trail just like his ancestors did 125 years ago."

    Despite horns measuring 62.5 inches from tip to tip, Rusty never damaged property or injured admirers, said Donnie Legrand, his handler. Neither curious children reaching out to pet him, dogs barking at his feet nor rides on escalators triggered a mean response.

    The steer gracefully passed through 24-inch gates without mishap, slightly turning his head for clearance, he said.

    By the end of this year's Stock Show where Rusty was a regular feature, Legrand began noticing the longhorn had lost weight. Alvarado veterinarian Clint Calvert discovered the lumps, and Rusty, by then 400 pounds below his normal weight of nearly 1,600 pounds, was taken to A&M for a biopsy.

    That led to a diagnosis of terminal cancer on April 28, the day he turned 20, a ripe old age for a longhorn.

    Rusty came from champion bloodstock. His grandsire, Texas Ranger JP, was one of the "greatest longhorn bulls of all time," Barker said. The steer's full name was FF Rusty. Pasture-bred, he was born in LaVeta, Colo., on April 28, 1985. The breeder was Red McCombs Ranches of Johnson City, owned by the San Antonio entrepreneur and owner of the Minnesota Vikings football team.

    In 1995, the Star-Telegram made the winning bid on Rusty at a charity auction, and the good-natured steer was soon carrying out various public duties.

    "I think Rusty has added a lot to our image and our brand in the community," said Wes Turner, the paper's president and publisher. "At any event with children, you'd see the pure joy in kids running up, calling his name. It was part of Fort Worth's 'culture and cowboys.' "

    And just as the University of Texas at Austin replaces its mascot when a Bevo retires, "we have to find Rusty II," Turner said.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 09 May 05 - 11:49 AM

    News photo puts a familiar face on compassion in a war zone
    The wife of a Stryker Brigade officer is deeply moved by sight of a soldier helping an Iraqi child -- and more so when she recognizes him

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    On Tuesday, as she does every night, Amy Bieger went to her computer to write an e-mail to her husband, Mark, in Iraq. Her eyes moistened when she logged on looking for news and saw a heart-wrenching photo of a U.S. soldier cradling the limp body of a 2-year-old girl wounded in a terrorist attack the day before. The helmeted soldier's face, unseen, is pressed reassuringly into the girl's. He clutches her close to his heart. Bieger could almost hear it beat faster as he ran to save the girl.

    "I was just taking it in. It was emotional," she said from her home in DuPont.

    Since the soldier's face couldn't be seen, the photo seemed to represent every soldier in Iraq. But Amy Bieger, the Army wife who knew from the lightning bolt insignia on the soldier's sleeve that it was her husband's Fort Lewis-based Stryker Brigade, wondered if she could learn more.

    She double-clicked on the photo to magnify it.

    "I saw the insignia, then rank, major. Near the girl's blanket you could see the last four letters on a name tag, 'e-g-e-r.' That sealed the deal. I knew it was Mark," she said. "The way he was cradling her, his body language, I knew that was him. That's what he always has done with our three children and any child in need. Heartbreak just went through me," she said.

    The compassionate face beneath the helmet is that of Maj. Mark Bieger, 35, who writes home about the children he sees there, how he'd like to reach out to help them, how they remind him of his own children. A 14-year veteran and West Point graduate from Arizona, Mark Bieger is operations officer for Fort Lewis' 1st Battalion, 24th Infantry Regiment of the Stryker Brigade Combat Team. The unit left in October for a yearlong deployment in Iraq.

    His battalion, nicknamed "Deuce Four," has felt more than its share of pain since then. "They have been through a lot and lost a lot of incredible guys, but that makes them want to fight harder to give these people peace," Amy Bieger said. Her husband hasn't had a chance to talk much about the little girl he was rushing to save or what happened Monday.

    Nor, isolated and busy in Iraq, does he seem to comprehend the national attention his act of tenderness has drawn, she said. "To him the picture represents great sadness because they lost a little girl. He kept saying it was a sad day. I knew it tore him up and not to press him," she said.

    Bieger has told his wife in e-mail only that he and others in Mosul responded to a suicide bomber whose car hit a Stryker vehicle while little kids were crowded around it. "He just says he didn't do anything that none of the other guys are doing."

    Michael Yon, the freelancer who took the photograph for The Associated Press, told ABC News that Bieger "wanted to get the girl to American surgeons immediately. So Maj. Bieger wrapped the little girl up in the blanket. He was telling soldiers, 'We're moving out.' "

    Bieger, whom the photographer saw rescue U.S. troops a week ago, tried to comfort the toddler as he cradled her, stopping every so often to talk to her, Yon said.

    American surgeons could not save the girl or another child. The suicide bomber injured 15 people.

    In a message on the Stryker Brigade News Web site at, Yon said Stryker soldiers were angry because the terrorist easily could have waited a block or two and attacked only their patrol, leaving the children out of it. The soldiers returned to the neighborhood the next day to ask people what they could do to help and were warmly received, Yon said.

    Stryker families who follow the site posted their own reactions:

    A woman who signed herself "Stryker sister" said, "I couldn't stop crying. I went to the bathroom and cried and cried like a baby. Just thinking how our soldiers go through this everyday. This photo is imprinted in my mind, and the image is just always flashing b4 me. Thanks Amy Bieger for your soldier for giving love to this little girl in her final moments."

    Another, Erin, said:

    "I don't know if I have ever been that moved by any photograph, seeing that patch on our soldiers shoulder, knowing that my son wears that same patch, I wanted everyone to know that our soldiers are so much more than just that. The body language of that soldier is so intense -- for lack of a better word and I could feel the pain in that moment across the miles. I don't know how else to describe it, but if that were my child, my grandchild that he was holding, I don't think that I could ask for anything more."

    As such national attention mounted Wednesday, Amy Bieger figured she'd better clue in the couple's three sons, ages 4, 9 and 10.

    "I wanted them to see the picture and hear an explanation from me before they heard it from someone else," she said.

    "It was hard for them to look at because they miss him so much. They weren't surprised. They said, 'Dad's helping everyone.' They look up to him so much."

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 13 May 05 - 03:01 PM

    Interactive 'Clickers' Changing Classrooms
    May 13, 2005

    PROVIDENCE, R.I. - Professor Ross Cheit put it to the students in his "Ethics and Public Policy" class at Brown University: Are you morally obliged to report cheating if you know about it? The room began to hum, but no one so much as raised a hand. Still, within 90 seconds, Cheit had roughly 150 student responses displayed on an overhead screen, plotted as a multicolored bar graph - 64 percent said yes, 35 percent, no. Several times each class, Cheit's students answer his questions using handheld wireless devices that resemble television remote controls.

    The devices, which the students call "clickers," are being used on hundreds of college campuses and are even finding their way into grade schools. They alter classroom dynamics, engaging students in large, impersonal lecture halls with the power of mass feedback. "Clickers" ease fears of giving a wrong answer in front of peers, or of expressing unpopular opinions. "I use it to take their pulse," Cheit said. "I've often found in that setting, you find yourself thinking, 'Well, what are they thinking?'"

    In hard science classes, the clickers - most of which allow several possible responses - are often used to gauge student comprehension of course material. Cheit tends to use them to solicit students' opinions.

    The clickers are an effective tool for spurring conversation, for getting a feel for what other students think, said Megan Schmidt, a freshman from New York City. "It forces you to be active in the discussion because you are forced to make a decision right off the bat," said Jonathan Magaziner, a sophomore in Cheit's class. Cheit prepares most questions in advance but can add questions on the fly if need be. His setup processes student responses through infrared receivers that are connected to a laptop computer.

    Clickers increased class participation and improved attendance after Stephen Bradforth, a professor at the University of Southern California, introduced them to an honors chemistry class there last fall, he said. Bradforth uses the clickers to get a sense of whether students are grasping the material and finds that they compel professors to think about their lesson plans differently. He says it's too early to say whether students who used the clickers are doing better on standardized tests.

    Eric Mazur, a Harvard University physics professor and proponent of interactive teaching, says clickers aren't essential but they are more efficient and make participation easier for shy students. Many colleges already use technology that allows teachers and students to interact more easily outside the classroom. For example, professors can now post lecture notes, quizzes and reading lists online. Several companies market software, such as Blackboard and Web CT, that provide ready-made course Web pages and other course management tools.

    Mazur envisions students someday using their laptops, cell phones or other Internet-ready devices for more interactivity than clickers offer. At least one company, Option Technologies Interactive, based in Orlando, Fla., markets software that allows any student with a handheld wireless device or laptop to log onto a Web site and answer questions, just as they would with a clicker.

    For now, the clicker systems appear to be selling. Two companies that make the systems say each of their technologies are in use on more than 600 university campuses worldwide. Some textbook publishers are even writing questions designed to be answered by clicker, and packaging the devices with their books. Versions of clickers have been available since the 1980s, but in the past six years several more have entered the market and advances in technology have made them both cheaper and more sophisticated.

    Most universities that use clickers require students to buy them, although at Brown they're loaned through the library. Made by companies including the Maryland-based GTCO CalComp, eInstruction Corp., of Denton, Texas, and Hyper Interactive Teaching Technology, of Fayetteville, Ark., the devices cost about $30. The clickers communicate with receivers by infrared or radio signals, which feed the results to the teacher's computer. Software allows the students' responses to be recorded, analyzed and graphed. While each company offers slightly different features, the systems typically allow instructors to display the class's results as a whole, or to record each student's individual response. The clickers themselves vary among companies but generally allow students to respond to multiple choice questions or key in a numeric answer.

    The clickers can also be used to give quizzes that can be graded automatically and entered in a computerized gradebook, saving professors time. But several professors said they have avoided that so students will see the handheld devices as positive, rather than punitive.

    At the college level, the devices originally took hold in science classes, but they are finding their way into the social sciences and humanities, where the anonymity they offer may be an advantage. Cheit said that's especially true when it comes to sensitive topics, such as affirmative action. "People that are against it will click," Cheit said, "But they might not raise their hand and say it."

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 13 May 05 - 05:03 PM

    Wendy's Finger Lickin' Good Mystery Solved At Last!!!

    I wonder who is going to collect the hundred grand reward?

    Finger Traced to Woman Who Blamed Wendy's
    May 13, 2005

    SAN JOSE, Calif. - The finger that a woman said she found in a bowl of Wendy's chili came from an associate of her husband who lost the digit in an industrial accident, police said Friday.

    "The jig is up. The puzzle pieces are beginning to fall into place, and the truth is being exposed," Police Chief Rob Davis said.

    The man is from Nevada and lost a part of his finger in an accident last December, Davis said. His identity was traced through a tip made to Wendy's hot line, he said.

    He said authorities "positively confirmed that this subject was in fact the source of the fingertip."

    Anna Ayala, the woman who said she found the finger, was arrested last month at her suburban Las Vegas home and is charged with attempted grand larceny.

    Ayala, 39, said she bit down on a 1 1/2 inch-long finger fragment while dining with her family in March at a San Jose Wendy's. But authorities had said they believed the story was a hoax.

    Ayala's husband, Jaime Plascencia, was arrested earlier this month on a fugitive warrant at the couple's home to face charges unrelated to the Wendy's case. San Jose police had said he used his children's personal information in a fraudulent manner for personal gain.

    Authorities are considering additional criminal charges against Ayala and her husband, Davis said.

    "We are exploring all other options and avenues available to see that those involved in this charade will be investigated," Davis said.

    The man who lost the finger, whose name was not released, had given the finger fragment to Plascencia, Davis said. Davis would not disclose details of the investigation but said the man was cooperating.

    A phone call to Ayala's attorney on Friday was not immediately returned.

    Wendy's has offered a $100,000 reward and has said it has lost millions in sales since Ayala made the claim. Dozens of employees at the company's Northern California franchises also have been laid off.

    "There are victims in this case that have suffered greatly," Davis said.

    The news initially aroused sympathy for Ayala, but suspicions grew as questions were raised about her story.

    Wendy's had said no employees at the San Jose store had missing fingers, and no suppliers of Wendy's ingredients had reported any finger injuries. Authorities said there was no evidence the finger had been cooked, and also said Ayala had a history of filing claims against businesses.

    As scrutiny mounted, Ayala withdrew a claim she had filed against the chain.

    In addition to attempted grand larceny in the Wendy's case, his wife is charged with grand larceny in an unrelated matter.

    Plascencia remains in jail in Nevada, but Davis said he would be extradited soon to San Jose. He was charged with identity theft, fraudulent use of official documents, failure to pay child support and child abandonment in the case involving his children.

    Police received a number of tips about the possible source of the finger, including one about a rural Nevada woman whose finger tip was bitten off by a spotted leopard kept as a pet. Police also recently searched a ranch north of Guadalajara, Mexico, owned by a relative of Plascencia.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Charley Noble
    Date: 13 May 05 - 05:30 PM

    Well, good! I figured someone would provide a tip sooner or later. Be nice to have the man's name, just to see what it rhymes with.

    Charley Noble

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: GUEST,Stilly River Sage
    Date: 14 May 05 - 12:17 PM

    Are you thinking about writing a song, Charlie?

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 15 May 05 - 12:01 PM

    Looks like bits of the story are still falling into place. You may just get the name you're looking for, Charlie! And the term "tipster" takes on a whole new meaning in the context of this story. :)

    Tailgate Blamed for Finger in Chili Claim
    May 15, 2005

    SAN FRANCISCO - The finger that a woman claimed she found in a bowl of Wendy's chili was severed in the tailgate of a truck during a work accident, an employee of an asphalt company said. Pat Hogue, an estimator with a Las Vegas asphalt maintenance company, told the San Francisco Chronicle for a story in Sunday's editions that a man he was working with lost the tip of his finger on a job five months ago.

    Both men were working with James Plascencia, the husband of Anna Ayala - the Las Vegas woman who claimed she found the finger in a bowl of chili at a Wendy's restaurant in San Jose, Hogue told the paper. Authorities believe the injured man gave the finger to Plascencia. Ayala is accused of trying to shake down the fast-food giant with a bogus tainted-food claim.

    "I saw it on the news. I didn't know the lady at first was married to that James guy until after he was arrested," Hogue said in a telephone interview from his home in North Las Vegas. Hogue and investigators have refused to identify the man with the severed finger, but police have said he's cooperating with authorities.

    Ayala, 39, is in jail on suspicion of attempted grand theft. She claimed she bit into the finger on March 22 and filed a claim against the restaurant chain shortly afterward. The publicity resulted in a major loss of business for Wendy's. Ayala later withdrew her claim as she came under scrutiny and investigators found at least 13 cases in which she has filed claims in her name or her children's. Plascencia, 43, is being held in a Las Vegas jail on unrelated charges. He is awaiting extradition to California.

    San Jose Police Chief Rob Davis said a tipster led investigators to the Nevada man with the missing finger. Investigators have refused to say how the finger was preserved or transported from Las Vegas to San Jose. Police said more arrests were possible.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 18 May 05 - 03:27 PM

    I don't know if there's a song in this, but here's the "rest of the story," as obnoxious Paul H used to say:

    Mother: Wendy's Finger Used to Settle Debt
    May 18, 2005

    SAN JOSE, Calif. - A man who lost part of his finger in a workplace accident was the source of the fingertip used in an alleged scam against Wendy's restaurants, and gave it away to settle a debt, his mother said. "My son is the victim in this," Brenda Shouey said in an interview published in Wednesday's San Francisco Chronicle. "I believe he got caught in something, and he didn't understand what was going on."

    Anna Ayala, 39, was arrested April 21 at her Las Vegas home on suspicion of attempted grand theft for allegedly costing Wendy's millions of dollars in a plot to shake down the company by claiming she found the finger in a bowl of chili in a restaurant in San Jose. Ayala was to be arraigned Wednesday afternoon.

    Shouey, of Worthington, Pa., said her son, Brian Paul Rossiter, 36, of Las Vegas, lost part of his finger in December in an accident at a paving company where he worked with James Plascencia, Ayala's husband. His hand got caught in a mechanical truck lift, she said. She said he gave it to Plascencia to settle a $50 debt.

    San Jose police announced last week the finger was obtained from an associate of Plascencia, but they have refused to identify him because he is cooperating in the investigation. They did not immediately return a message Wednesday seeking comment on the newspaper's account. Shouey said her son had showed the severed finger to co-workers in a macho display of humor and was desperate for cash when he gave it away "to this character, James."

    "My son is a happy-go-lucky guy. He thought it was cute to show" the severed finger, Shouey said. "It's like a man thing." Shouey declined to give details of how the finger was preserved or whether Rossiter knew why Plascencia allegedly wanted the finger. She said her son told her of his role only this week and is keeping a low profile after undergoing intense police questioning.

    Plascencia was arrested earlier this month on unrelated charges of failing to pay child support in a previous relationship.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Shanghaiceltic
    Date: 24 May 05 - 08:30 PM

    Could be a good Teddy Bears Picnic.

    If you go down to the woods today
    Your sure of a big surprise
    Cos all the bears that ever there was
    Are into leather and ties.....

    Hardcore teddy banned from Zurich bear parade
    Tue May 24, 2005 10:22 AM BST
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    ZURICH (Reuters) - A giant dominatrix teddy bear wearing a leather mask and brandishing hand-cuffs has been banned from sober Zurich's street display of man-sized model bears, the project's artistic director said on Tuesday.

    While tourists pose for snaps next to a brightly-painted and benign array of models such as the "schoolteacher bear" and the "skier bear", "Baervers" -- a pun on the German for perverse -- has been deemed too steamy for the financial capital's streets.

    "This bear is perverse, dominatrix and hardcore. We had to ban it because of the children," Beat Seeberger-Quin, the project's art director, told Reuters.

    The offending bear, which sports bright red lipstick, a corset and thigh-length leather boots, stands atop a pedestal bearing the words "first class service".

    Some 600 teddies, variously decorated by artists, stud the streets of Zurich and its airport in the "Teddy-Summer" project.

    The controversial model had been allocated a place near Zurich's Paradeplatz, home to Switzerland's top banks such as Credit Suisse and UBS, before Seeberger-Quin spotted the final design and decided to ban it.

    The dominatrix bear's creators now seek a private home for their sadomasochist teddy. At least "Baervers" will not face the same hazards as his publicly-displayed peers, some of which have been vandalised or even kidnapped.

    "Two or three of the bears have been splashed with paint, and one bear -- a nice small bear wearing a little dress -- has been stolen," Seeberger-Quin said.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: GUEST,Stilly River Sage
    Date: 25 May 05 - 12:19 AM

    A saucy bear named "Beaver" is a pretty good pun in English, also!

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 21 Jun 05 - 02:47 PM

    Lions Rescue, Guard Beaten Ethiopian Girl
    June 21, 2005

    ADDIS ABABA, Ethiopia - A 12-year-old girl who was abducted and beaten by men trying to force her into a marriage was found being guarded by three lions who apparently had chased off her captors, a policeman said Tuesday.

    The girl, missing for a week, had been taken by seven men who wanted to force her to marry one of them, said Sgt. Wondimu Wedajo, speaking by telephone from the provincial capital of Bita Genet, about 350 miles southwest of Addis Ababa.

    She was beaten repeatedly before she was found June 9 by police and relatives on the outskirts of Bita Genet, Wondimu said. She had been guarded by the lions for about half a day, he said.

    "They stood guard until we found her and then they just left her like a gift and went back into the forest," Wondimu said.

    "If the lions had not come to her rescue, then it could have been much worse. Often these young girls are raped and severely beaten to force them to accept the marriage," he said.

    Tilahun Kassa, a local government official who corroborated Wondimu's version of the events, said one of the men had wanted to marry the girl against her wishes.

    "Everyone thinks this is some kind of miracle, because normally the lions would attack people," Wondimu said.

    Stuart Williams, a wildlife expert with the rural development ministry, said the girl may have survived because she was crying from the trauma of her attack.

    "A young girl whimpering could be mistaken for the mewing sound from a lion cub, which in turn could explain why they didn't eat her," Williams said.

    Ethiopia's lions, famous for their large black manes, are the country's national symbol and adorn statues and the local currency. Despite a recent crackdown, Hunters also kill the animals for their skins, which can fetch $1,000. Williams estimates that only 1,000 Ethiopian lions remain in the wild.

    The girl, the youngest of four siblings, was "shocked and terrified" after her abduction and had to be treated for the cuts from her beatings, Wondimu said.

    He said police had caught four of the abductors and three were still at large.

    Kidnapping young girls has long been part of the marriage custom in Ethiopia. The United Nations estimates that more than 70 percent of marriages in Ethiopia are by abduction, practiced in rural areas where most of the country's 71 million people live.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Charley Noble
    Date: 21 Jun 05 - 04:50 PM

    That's a nice story. Probably these were female lions, assuming the story is true.

    I wonder if the alledged abductors will try "lying" about this incident.

    Charles Ipcar
    Returned Peace Corp Volunteer, Ethiopia 1965-68

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 30 Jun 05 - 08:33 AM

    Whopper Mudcat caught

    No, this isn't one of Bee Dubya Ell's tall stories. . .

    Fish whopper: 646 pounds a freshwater record
    Researchers cite Thai catch to stress extinction dangers

    Thai fishermen netted a catfish as big as a grizzly bear, setting a world record for the largest freshwater fish ever found, according to researchers who studied the 646-pound Mekong giant catfish as part of a project to protect large freshwater fish.

    "It's amazing to think that giants like this still swim in some of the world's rivers," project leader Zeb Hogan project leader said in a statement. "We've now confirmed now that this catfish is the current record holder, an astonishing find."

    "I'm thrilled that we've set a new record, but we need to put this discovery in context: these giant fish are uniformly poorly studied and some are critically endangered," added Hogan, a fellow with the World Wildlife Fund, which is partnering with the National Geographic Society. "Some, like the Mekong giant catfish, face extinction."

    'Largest fish species disappearing'
    Hogan said his study of giant freshwater fish "is showing a clear and global pattern: the largest fish species are disappearing.

    "The challenge is clear," he added, "we must find methods to protect these species and their habitats. By acting now, we can save animals like the Mekong giant catfish from extinction."

    Hogan's project includes two-dozen other species, including the giant freshwater stingray, the dog-eating catfish, the dinosaur-like arapaima, and the Chinese paddlefish ? "all of which remain contenders for the title of the world's largest fish," the researchers stated, pending the final results of their work.

    "Long shots for the title include caviar-producing sturgeon, goliath Amazon catfish, giant lungfish, razor-toothed gars, massive cods, and Mongolian salmon," they added.

    Didn't survive capture
    The Mekong giant catfish was caught and eaten in a remote village in Thailand along the Mekong River, home to more species of giant fish than any other river in the world, the researchers said.

    Local environmentalists and government officials had negotiated to release the fish so it could continue its spawning migration in the far north of Thailand, near the borders of Thailand, Laos, Myanmar and China, but the adult male later died.

    The researchers said the Mekong giant catfish is declining as a species due to habitat destruction and upstream dams.

    The Mekong River Basin is home to more species of massive fish than any river on Earth, they added, and Mekong fish are the primary source of protein for the 73 million people that live along the river.

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    From: GUEST,Charley Noble
    Date: 30 Jun 05 - 05:38 PM

    I wonder what the recipee was?

    Charley Noble

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 08 Jul 05 - 09:47 AM

    I agree with the tribal police chief: the complaints are entirely racial, and if people in Washington thought about it, they'd realize they've been lucky for years that the tribe didn't enforce strict laws on the highway. They are probably entitled to, should they choose to. Visit tribal lands in many other states and there are signs telling you you've entered the tribal domain. I think the Tulalip administration should do the same. (Tulalip isn't a tribal name, it represents an amalgam of tribes who reside on this reservation).

    Let them get revenue from the speeders, and at the same time, that one act would lower the death rate on this dangerous stretch of road. I'd hazard a guess that speed is the single most significant factor in the many crashes that take place here.


    Published: Friday, July 8, 2005

    Use of Tulalip police on I-5 prompts complaints

    By Diana Hefley and Scott North, Herald Writers

    MARYSVILLE - An effort to crack down on speeders along a dangerous stretch of I-5 near Marysville has added fuel to a smoldering dispute between Tulalip tribal police and the Snohomish County Sheriff's Office. County officials and Sheriff Rick Bart said they received complaints about Tulalip police officers stopping cars along I-5 over the weekend. They've asked the county prosecutors and the state Attorney General's Office to study whether it was legal.

    The tribal officers were part of a multiagency patrol on the freeway between Marysville and Smokey Point coordinated by the Washington State Patrol. That's where the state recently lowered the speed limit from 70 mph to 60 mph in an effort to reduce accidents. "The whole mission is to save lives, and we can't do it alone," State Patrol Capt. Jim Lever said.

    Bart said Thursday that he didn't know tribal police were involved, and he was unprepared to answer questions when he began getting complaints.

    Tulalip Police Chief Jay Goss said his officers were asked to participate and have the authority to make stops on the freeway where it runs through the reservation.

    "I agree with the state's position to lower the speed limit," Goss said. "We participated as part of another law enforcement agency."

    State Patrol troopers have focused on the freeway since July 1, when the new speed limit went into effect. In addition to tribal officers, they sought assistance from police in Everett and Monroe, as well as the sheriff's office. The effort was part of the Pro-Active Community Enforcement patrols that police have used throughout the county to crack down on drunken drivers, seat-belt violators and aggressive drivers.

    The State Patrol has good relationships with the Tulalip tribal police and the sheriff's office, Lever said.

    The patrols were primarily to warn drivers to slow down and observe the speed limit. Tribal officers did not participate once the focus shifted to writing tickets.

    County officials early this week began fielding complaints about the tribal officers' participation. Some questioned their authority to make freeway stops.

    County Councilman John Koster, whose council district includes the stretch of I-5 where the controversy was brewing, said he wished there would have been more communication.

    "I had calls," he said. "I saw the Tulalip police with people stopped."

    Koster said the people who contacted him asked whether tribal police could legally enforce traffic laws on the interstate.

    "Apparently, the State Patrol didn't even notify the sheriff," Koster said.

    Tulalip officers typically don't patrol the freeway, but they have authority to do so because the section from Fourth Street to 140th Street NW is on tribal trust land, Goss said.

    That stretch of road is being scrutinized by the state Department of Transportation after a number of fatal crashes. Engineers are evaluating the use of cable barriers in the median. While accident data show the barriers work the majority of the time, an analysis by The Herald found that in a three-mile stretch the cables failed to stop cars crossing the median 20 percent of the time between 1999 and 2004.

    Goss said his office took one complaint.

    "The vast majority were complimentary" about the officers' efforts, he said.

    Bart said five people complained to him. He said tribal officers can't stop people on the freeway without explicit permission from him, and that Goss should have asked first.

    The sheriff said disputes about tribal police jurisdiction have been ongoing, and he has asked for direction from the county prosecutor's office and Attorney General's Office.

    "Until these questions are answered, we're going to have problems," he said.

    The prosecutor's office hasn't heard complaints from anyone who actually got a ticket from a tribal police officer, said Mark Roe, the county's chief criminal deputy prosecutor.

    Roe said he phoned Goss when he heard some were asking questions. He said the two have long enjoyed a good working relationship.

    "As with any situation, it all boils down to facts, what happened and what didn't," Roe said. "If they were asked to help tell people, 'Hey, you need to slow down or the next time you get a ticket,' I don't' see any problem with that."

    Goss, however, believes there is more to the issue than questions about jurisdiction and unhappy speeders.

    "I think people need to examine in their hearts why they are objecting," he said. "I think it's about race. They weren't complaining about the other officers."

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 11 Jul 05 - 10:14 AM

    Surprise, surprise, surprise!

    From the Chicago Sun Times:

    Newsweek: Rove gave Time reporter OK to testify
    July 11, 2005

    Top presidential adviser Karl Rove was the anonymous source who released a Time reporter from his promise of confidentiality, allowing the journalist to avoid jail, Newsweek says.

    In a story published today, Newsweek reveals more details about the celebrated case stemming from the leak of an undercover CIA agent's name in 2003.

    The publication of Valerie Plame's name by Chicago Sun-Times syndicated columnist Robert Novak set off an investigation because it's a crime to knowingly identify an undercover CIA official.

    Prosecutors trying to find who leaked Plame's name wound up issuing a subpoena to Time reporter Matthew Cooper. He also was working on a story involving Plame in 2003 and wound up facing jail because he wouldn't reveal his secret source.

    At the 11th hour last week, Cooper got permission to talk from his source -- identified by Newsweek as Rove.

    The magazine said Rove's lawyer confirmed that he gave Cooper the OK to testify before a grand jury.

    Newsweek quoted an e-mail from the reporter to his boss that showed Rove had discussed Plame and her husband, Joseph Wilson, a former ambassador, with Cooper.

    It was Wilson who went on a CIA-sponsored trip to Africa to learn about Iraq's alleged attempts to buy uranium there.

    He subsequently criticized the Bush administration on the Iraq war, a move that critics think led the administration to leak his wife's name as punishment.

    Newsweek says that while the e-mail shows that Rove talked to Cooper about the couple, the e-mail doesn't suggest that Rove revealed Plame's name or CIA status.

    The Newsweek article quotes Cooper's e-mail as saying, "it was, KR said, Wilson's wife, who apparently works at the agency on wmd [weapons of mass destruction] issues who authorized the trip."

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Donuel
    Date: 11 Jul 05 - 01:57 PM

    Today's story (the way I would have written it for FOX)

    An LAPD officer was wounded in the shoulder when a father run amok began firing a pistol while holding his baby daughter. The mother screamed to police to let her husband cool off but cooler heads prevailed and a hail of police gunfire successfully ripped through the baby and killed the gunman.
    The mother is taking this rather hard and is now screaming for yet another frivilous investigation. A spokesperson for the police department has reminded the public that they do not negotiate with terrorists. We are currently at a partial code orange.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 13 Jul 05 - 01:01 AM


    I read that and thought you were pulling a sick trick. Then I heard part of that story today. Geez. My apologies for thinking that you'd come up with a story so disturbing it couldn't possibly be true.


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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 19 Jul 05 - 06:07 PM

    States Trying to Blunt Property Ruling
    July 19, 2005

    CHICAGO - Alarmed by the prospect of local governments seizing homes and turning the property over to developers, lawmakers in at least half the states are rushing to blunt last month's U.S. Supreme Court ruling expanding the power of eminent domain. In Texas and California, legislators have proposed constitutional amendments to bar government from taking private property for economic development. Politicians in Alabama, South Dakota and Virginia likewise hope to curtail government's ability to condemn land. Even in states like Illinois - one of at least eight that already forbid eminent domain for economic development unless the purpose is to eliminate blight - lawmakers are proposing to make it even tougher to use the procedure.

    "People I've never heard from before came out of the woodwork and were just so agitated," said Illinois state Sen. Susan Garrett, a Democrat. "People feel that it's a threat to their personal property, and that has hit a chord."

    The Institute for Justice, which represented homeowners in the Connecticut case that was decided by the Supreme Court, said at least 25 states are considering changes to eminent domain laws.

    The Constitution says governments cannot take private property for public use without "just compensation." Governments have traditionally used their eminent domain authority to build roads, reservoirs and other public projects. But for decades, the court has been expanding the definition of public use, allowing cities to employ eminent domain to eliminate blight.

    In June, the Supreme Court ruled 5-4 that New London, Conn., had the authority to take homes for a private development project. But in its ruling, the court noted that states are free to ban that practice - an invitation lawmakers are accepting in response to a flood of e-mails, phone calls and letters from anxious constituents. "The Supreme Court's decision told homeowners and business owners everywhere that there's now a big `Up for Grabs' sign on their front lawn," said Dana Berliner, an attorney with the Institute for Justice. "Before this, people just didn't realize that they could lose their home or their family's business because some other person would pay more taxes on the same land. People are unbelievably upset."

    Don Borut, executive director of the National League of Cities, which backed New London in its appeal to the high court, said government's eminent domain power is important for revitalizing neighborhoods. He said any changes to state law should be done after careful reflection. "There's a rush to respond to the emotional impact. Our view is, step back, let's look at the issue in the broadest sense and if there are changes that are reflected upon, that's appropriate," he said.

    In Alabama, Republican Gov. Bob Riley is drawing up a bill that would prohibit city and county governments from using eminent domain to take property for retail, office or residential development. It would still allow property to be taken for industrial development, such as new factories, and for roads and schools. In Connecticut, politicians want to slap a moratorium on the use of eminent domain by municipalities until the Legislature can act. One critic of the ruling has suggested local officials take over Supreme Court Justice David Souter's New Hampshire farmhouse and turn it into a hotel. Souter voted with the majority in the Connecticut case.

    Arkansas, Florida, Illinois, Kentucky, Maine, Montana, South Carolina and Washington already forbid the taking of private property for economic development except to eliminate blight. Other states either expressly allow private property to be taken for private economic purposes or have not spoken clearly on the question.

    Illinois state Sen. Steve Rauschenberger, a Republican who is considering a run for governor, said the state's blight laws need to be more restrictive. "The statutory definition of blight in Illinois is broader than the Mississippi River at its mouth," he said. "They have taken everything from underdeveloped lakefront property to open green-grass farmfields as being defined as blighted."

    Action also is taking place at the federal level, where a proposal would ban the use of federal funds for any project moving forward because of the Supreme Court decision. And the Institute for Justice said it will ask the Supreme Court to rehear the New London case, but acknowledged that the prospects of that happening are dim. "One of the things, I think, that is elemental to American freedom is the right to have and hold private property and not to interfere with that right," Rauschenberger said. "For Americans, it's like the boot on the door. You can't kick in the door and come in my house unless I invite you."

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    Subject: RE: BS: I heard it on NPR
    From: Donuel
    Date: 20 Jul 05 - 09:43 AM

    While recently serving as a judge in Washington DC the current Supreme Court nominee Roberts upheld the arrest of a little girl who was placed in handcuffs and removed to jail in a windowless van for eating 4 french fries while on a subway train.

    His comment was "No one is happy with this situation but the law is the law."

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Donuel
    Date: 20 Jul 05 - 09:49 AM

    Rose, The actual and official LAPD response was
    "We did not have a choice."

    NOT "we do not negotiate with terrorists."

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Uncle_DaveO
    Date: 20 Jul 05 - 10:07 AM

    SRS, somewhere back up there, told us:

    It means that because these laws are poorly crafted and tie the hands of judges regarding things like "three strikes," a lot of people who have minor infractions end up with life sentences without parole. So the judges who made this idiotic decision have done an injustice to their colleagues in the field, to say nothing of the victims of this worm they released.

    There is in the law a maxim that "Bad law makes hard cases, and hard cases make bad law."

    Dave Oesterreich

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 24 Jul 05 - 12:18 PM

    Hiker Survives Five Days in Lava Field
    July 24, 2005

    WAIMEA, Hawaii - A hiker lost for five days in a lava field near a volcano says he survived by drinking water he squeezed from moss in a mostly barren landscape. Gilbert Dewey Gaedcke III, 41, was rescued Friday afternoon after a teenager on a helicopter tour spotted him stumbling across the rocky lava, trying to attract attention with a mirror from his camera. Gaedcke had been missing since Sunday night, when he decided to take a hike across desolate lava fields near Hawaii Volcanoes National Park to get a closer look at an active volcano. The experienced hiker from Austin, Texas, said he saw no water, but there were pockets of jungle-like vegetation sprinkled throughout the old lava flow.

    Gaedcke said he crawled beneath the vines and lick moisture off leaves. Then he found moss growing on trees, and was able to squeeze enough water from it to drink. "It was muddy, green, mossy water, but it worked," he said Saturday. "If I hadn't found that I'd be dead right now," he said.

    Gaedcke said tour helicopters had flown overhead all week, but he was unable to attract attention because clouds blocked the sun. Then, late Friday afternoon, another one flew over. Aboard was 15-year-old Peter Frank, who spotted the odd glint in the late afternoon sunlight. "It was the only thing like that out there," said Frank, of Pasadena, Calif. "As we got closer we realized it was a man."

    Gaedcke, dehydrated, but otherwise OK after surviving five days in the heat, was lost amid acres of blackened volcanic rock. "I wound up on some of the most vicious terrain I've ever seen," he said as he rested at a friend's home before flying home. "It's all gray rock - terrible stuff - then vegetation like an oasis, then more gray rock." Gaedcke's rented car had been found days earlier at the end of a road near an old lava flow bordering the east side of the 333,000-acre national park. Police had few leads to follow.

    Fire crews and rangers from the park searched for days on foot and on horseback. Helicopters buzzed the area, but there was no sign of Gaedcke.

    Then, Frank spotted what looked like a toy pinwheel glinting in the sunlight. His mother, Diann Kim, said her son asked Blue Hawaiian Helicopters pilot Cliff Muzzi to get a closer look. "As we got closer you could see the man flashing a mirror and waving a dark orange fabric," she said. "As he was coming down the path, clearly he couldn't move that well." Kim's daughter, Hannah, and a friend wrapped bottles of water in airsickness bags to drop to the distressed hiker. "It was so amazing," Kim said. "To see a person out there was like seeing a person on the face of the moon.

    After returning his passengers to Hilo International Airport, Muzzi headed back to retrieve Gaedcke, then whisked him back to the airport about 17 miles to the northeast. Medical crews were waiting to take him to Hilo Medical Center.

    Gaedcke said he saw the bright glow of the lava and then turned to go back to his car, but missed it as he walked in the dark. He hiked inland, expecting to intersect with the road, but by morning, he was lost. "My feet feel like I had a 30-day adventure," he said. "And if it weren't for my feet, I'd be dancing a jig right now."

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 06 Aug 05 - 03:15 PM

    Monroe sex secrets
    By MICHELLE CARUSO link (I don't think it is a durable link)

    LOS ANGELES - In private tapes for her psychiatrist, screen goddess Marilyn Monroe never hinted she romanced JFK, but she bemoaned her lack of "courage" to break off an affair with his married brother Bobby, a bombshell report says.


    Monroe also revealed a one-night-fling with actress Joan Crawford and her undying love for her ex Joe DiMaggio, but she griped about the "so-so" sex with former hubby playwright Arthur Miller, according to documents obtained by the Los Angeles Times.

    On the 43rd anniversary of Monroe's death, former L.A. County prosecutor John Miner gave the newspaper never-before-published transcripts of tape recordings the actress reportedly made for Dr. Ralph Greenson shortly before she died.

    Greenson reportedly destroyed the actual tapes before his own death, but Miner says he took detailed notes when the psychiatrist played them for him during a probe of Monroe's drug-overdose death in 1962.

    Miner, now 86, released the transcripts because he doesn't think the star of "Some Like It Hot" and "The Misfits" took her own life and he believes the therapy tapes prove she was happy and looking forward to the future, the newspaper said. Miner did not return phone calls yesterday.

    Far from the desperate woman on the brink of self-destruction often portrayed in media accounts, the 36-year-old Monroe was upbeat, the transcripts show. She credited the shrink with curing her

    sexual dysfunction and frankly discussed her husbands, lovers and friends, including DiMaggio, former President John F. Kennedy and Frank Sinatra.

    In her own words (she sometimes referred to herself in the third-person), here's what Monroe had to say, according to the transcripts:

    On JFK: "Marilyn Monroe is a soldier. Her commander in chief is the greatest and most powerful man in the world. The first duty of a soldier is to obey her commander. He says 'Do this.' You do this. . . . This man is going to change our country."
    Despite years of rumors, and her breathy rendition of "Happy Birthday, Mr. President" at his Madison Square Garden bash, Monroe didn't confess to a fling.

    On Robert F. Kennedy: "As you see, there is no room in my life for him. I guess I don't have the courage to face up to it and hurt him. I want someone else to tell him it's over. I tried to get the President to do it, but I couldn't reach him."
    Some past accounts have claimed Monroe was madly in love with RFK and was badgering him with phone calls right up to the bitter end.

    On a one-night fling with Crawford: "Next time I saw Crawford, she wanted another round. I told her straight out I didn't much enjoy doing it with a woman. After I turned her down, she became spiteful."

    On baseball great DiMaggio: "Joe D. loves Marilyn Monroe and always will. I love him and I always will. But Joe could not stay married to Marilyn Monroe, the famous film star. Joe has an image in his stubborn Italian head of a traditional Italian wife. . . . Doctor, you know that's not me . . . . Anytime I need him, Joe is there. I couldn't have a better friend." The ex-Yankee slugger sent roses to Monroe's Westwood, Calif., grave for decades after she died.

    On Sinatra: "What a wonderful friend he is to me. I love Frank and he loves me. It is not the marrying kind of love. It is better because marriage can't destroy it."

    On Miller: "Marrying him was my mistake, not his. He couldn't give me the attention, warmth and affection I need. It's not in his nature. Arthur never credited me with much intelligence. . . . As bed partners we were so-so. He was not that much interested."

    On how Dr. Greenson taught her to achieve orgasm: "You said there was an obstacle in my mind that prevented me from having an orgasm . . . . Bless you, doctor. By now I've had lots of orgasms. Not only one, but two and three with a man who takes his time."

    Originally published on August 5, 2005

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Amos
    Date: 06 Aug 05 - 03:47 PM

    Holy Moly!! My one true love has now spilled her guts tot he world. Dang!! I need to think about this...


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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 06 Aug 05 - 11:38 PM

    Another link and a lot more detail.

    Marilyn from beyond the grave
    Did Hollywood's greatest female star really take her own life? Newly released transcripts of her final messages to a psychiatrist will only fuel the conspiracy theories. David Usborne reports
    Published: 06 August 2005

    Some mysteries never die even if they are meant never to be resolved. The death of Marilyn Monroe, found naked with her face down on her bed in her Los Angeles home 43 years ago yesterday, is one of those: was it really suicide, or something different? Only Marilyn herself could clear this one up.

    But no one gets to speak from the grave, not even the biggest of all big Hollywood stars. Except that Marilyn has - sort of. Listen and you might be surprised and not just by the tittle-tattle about her faked orgasms, her enemas or her love-hate respect for Laurence Olivier. She talks like a person possessed but about the future, not by thoughts of death. She wants to love more, to act Shakespeare. (It is her plan to play Juliet and have sexual intercourse on stage with Romeo.) She is also plotting to fire her housekeeper.

    It may be, in fact, that the entire mythology surrounding an actress who for the 15-year span of her film-making career stopped the hearts of men the world over - from ordinary cinema-goers to, it is said, a sitting American president - may be about to be re-written all because of a transcript of a tape she allegedly made very shortly before her death. A tape she handed over to her psychiatrist.

    Responsible for causing this sudden upheaval in Monroe lore is John Miner, a former Los Angeles prosecutor who for some time has been telling researchers of the tape and of the written transcript he apparently made of it. Some authors have included some references to the transcript's contents in their works. But never before has anyone taken it seriously enough to broadcast it fully to the public.

    But that changed yesterday when The Los Angeles Times, apparently confident enough in the credibility of Mr Miner, splashed the story on its front page to coincide with the 43rd anniversary of her passing. The significance of the lengthy text seems unmistakable: that she was not thinking about death at the time. Implication: her death was either accidental or prompted by a third party.

    Mr Miner was in the District Attorney's office in Los Angeles at the time of her death - she was just 36 - and participated in her autopsy. It was during the investigation that he interviewed the psychiatrist, Dr Ralph Greenson, who revealed the existence of the tape, saying it was a gift from Ms Monroe just a few days before she died. He did not give the tapes to Mr Miner. He did allow him, however, to listen to them and take extensive notes - thence the transcripts that now come to light for all to read.

    "There was no possible way this woman could have killed herself," Mr Miner argues. "She had very specific plans for her future. She knew exactly what she wanted to do. She was told by [acting coach] Lee Strasberg, maybe ill-advisedly, that she had Shakespeare in her and she was fascinated with the idea."

    Arguments will break out over the reliability of Mr Miner, now 86, and, indeed, of the decision by The Los Angeles Times to run with his claims. His intention, it seems, is to persuade his successors in the DA's office once more to re-open the investigation into the actress's death. (Her body was found with a fatal overdose of the barbiturate Nembutal.) A brief stab at re-opening the affair was made in 1982. The DA's office said then that there remained "factual discrepancies" and "unanswered questions" in the case, but declined to open a criminal investigation.

    Leave aside whether she killed herself, bungled her pill taking or was actually murdered. This text of personal musings (or, as she called them, " mental meanderings") on its own isn't going to put an end to the matter. But they do make a good read, especially if you are not already a Monroe fanatic. This reader didn't know she had been sleeping with Senator Robert Kennedy or that sex between her and Arthur Miller had been so lousy.

    At the very end of the tape, she frets that Bobby Kennedy is in love with her and says she had thought about asking John F Kennedy, the President, to let him down gently. She decides against it, because "he is too important to ask". She goes on: "I think what happened to Bobby is that he has stopped having good sex with his wife for some time ... Well when he starts having sex with the body all men want, his Catholic morality has to find a way to justify cheating on his wife. So love becomes his excuse."

    As ever, the currents of the actress's life were hardly smooth at the time. She had not long before been fired by the Fox studios, where she had been on contract to make Something's Got to Give. Fox had let her go for chronic lateness and drug dependency. And there was the hangover from two failed marriages, to Miller, the playwright, and to the baseball great, Joe DiMaggio. But if Ms Monroe was depressed at all, it apparently had nothing to do with her enduring ability to attract men. Though gravity was beginning to show, she was apparently still more or less satisfied with her extremely popular figure.

    "I stood naked in front of my full-length mirrors for a long time yesterday. I was all made up with my hair done," she tells Dr Greenson. "What did I see? My breasts are a beginning to sag a bit. My waist isn't bad. My ass is what it should be, the bester there is. Legs, knees and ankles still shapely. And my feet are not too big. OK, Marilyn, you have it all there."

    The purpose of making the tape appears to be to express gratitude to Dr Greenson, who died in 1979 and who has since been named by some biographers as a possible suspect in her death. She repeatedly credits him with helping her overcome neuroses, suggesting at one moment that she would love to become his daughter. (She expresses a similar fantasy over Clark Gable, recalling a dream where she is sitting on his knee.) Apparently, it was the doctor's success in giving her the ability to enjoy sex that she celebrates the most, however.

    "What I told you is true when I first became your patient. I had never had an orgasm. I well remember you said an orgasm happens in the mind, not the genitals ..." The actress reminds the doctor of how he also instructed her on how best to stimulate herself. She recalled him telling her "when I did exactly what you told me to do I would have an orgasm ... What a difference a word makes. You said I would, not I could. Bless you Doctor. What you say is gospel to me.

    "By now I've had lots of orgasms. Not only one, but two and three with a man who takes his time. I never cried so hard as I did after my first orgasm."

    There are also passages that briefly dissect the failed marriages. Though she was Joe DiMaggio's wife for only nine months, in 1954, she makes clear her enduring affection for him. She admits, however, that she erred in marrying Miller. "Marrying him was my mistake, not his. He couldn't give me the attention, warmth and affection I need. It's not his nature. Arthur never credited me with much intelligence. He couldn't share his intellectual life with me. As bed partners, we were so-so. He was not that much interested; me faking with exceptional performances to get him more interested. You know I think his little Jewish father had more genuine affection for me than Arthur did."

    Sex is part of what defined the public image of Monroe. No one will be much surprised that it weaves its way through so much of the transcript. Some may rock back, however, at the passages about sex with Joan Crawford.

    "Oh yes, Crawford ... We went to Joan's bedroom ... Crawford had a gigantic orgasm and shrieked like a maniac ... Next time I saw Crawford she wanted another round. I told her straight out I didn't much enjoy doing it with a woman. After I turned her down, she became spiteful." Other items not to be forgotten: that while Monroe liked an occasional enema, Mae West depended on them. "She is given an enema every day and she has at least one orgasm a day ... Mae says her enemas and orgasms will keep her young until she is 100."

    Slightly more serious in tone, though arguably no less startling, is Monroe's apparent determination to change gear professionally, and take on Shakespeare on film. Maybe this had to do with Monroe's belief that, after 30 films and one Golden Globe Award, for Some Like it Hot, the critics were still not taking her seriously. The plan, she says, is eventually to " produce and act in the Marilyn Monroe Shakespeare Film Festival". She says she will dedicate a whole year to studying Shakespearean acting with Lee Strasberg and then will go to Olivier for additional help that he once promised her.

    Monroe and Olivier had been in the film The Prince and the Showgirl. Her feelings for him seem a bit mixed. "The Prince was real ... He was superficial - no, that's not the word - supercilious, arrogant, a snob, conceited. Maybe a little bit anti-Semitic in the sense of some of my best friends are Jews. But, damn him, a great, great actor. She recalls a party where Olivier regales the guests with the Bard for two straight hours. " I sat and cried with joy for being so privileged," she says.

    What you read in the supermarket queue may be gripping but is rarely believable. The Monroe transcripts may seem to fall in that category. But it is not just The Los Angeles Times that takes them seriously. Parts of the text were also used by the British author Matthew Smith for his book Marilyn's Last Words: Her Secret Tapes and Mysterious Death. He remains convinced Mr Miner is credible. "I believe he is a man of integrity. I've looked at the contents of the tapes, of course, and, frankly, I would think it entirely impossible for John Miner to have invented what he put forward - absolutely impossible."

    Similarly convinced is James Bacon, 91, a former columnist who saw Monroe shortly before she died. She was drinking vodka and champagne and popping pills. But Mr Bacon, who took part in a symposium last night in Los Angeles dedicated to exploring alternatives to the suicide theory, insisted: " She wasn't the least bit depressed. She was talking about going to Mexico. She had a Mexican boyfriend at the time. I forget his name. This was the first house she ever owned. She was going to buy some furniture. She was in very good spirits that day. Of course, the champagne and vodka helped."

    You are the only person I have never lied to

    Dear Doctor, you have given me everything. Because of you I can now feel what I never felt before ...

    Isn't it true that the key to analysis is free association. Marilyn Monroe associates. You, my doctor, by understanding and interpretation of what goes on in my mind get to my unconscious, which makes it possible for you to treat my neuroses and for me to overcome them.

    You are the only person in the world I have never told a lie to and never will ...

    Oh yes, dreams. I know they are important. But you want me to free associate about the dream elements. I have the same blanking out. More resistance for you and Dr Freud to complain about.

    I read his "Introductory Lectures", God, what a genius. He makes it so understandable. And he is so right. Didn't he say himself that Shakespeare and Dostoyevsky had a better understanding of psychology than all the scientists put together. Damn it, they do.

    You told me to read Molly Bloom's mental meanderings (I can use words, can't I) to get a feeling for free association. It was when I did that I got my great idea.

    As I read it something bothered me. Here is Joyce writing what a woman thinks to herself . Can he, does he really know her innermost thoughts. But after I read the whole book, I could better understand that Joyce is an artist who could penetrate the souls of people, male or female. It really doesn't matter that Joyce doesn't have ... or never felt a menstrual cramp. Wait a minute. As you must have guessed I am free associating and you are going to hear a lot of bad language. Because of my respect for you, I've never been able to say the words I'm really thinking when we are in session. But now I am going to say whatever I think, no matter what it is.

    While reading Molly's blathering, the IDEA came to me. Get a tape recorder. Put a tape in. Turn it on. Say whatever you are thinking like I am doing now. It's really easy. I'm lying on my bed wearing only a brassiere. If I want to go to the refrig or the bathroom, push the stop button and begin again when I want to.

    And I just free associate. No problem. You get the idea, don't you? Patient can't do it in Doctor's office. Patient is at home with tape recorder ...

    Well, that's something for you to sleep on, Doctor.

    Good Night.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 10 Aug 05 - 12:23 AM

    How sad. The best of luck to her in getting through this.

    Christopher Reeve's widow announces she has lung cancer
    AP--Posted on Tue, Aug. 09, 2005

    NEW YORK -- Dana Reeve, who spent nine years caring for her paralyzed husband, Christopher Reeve, until his death last year, announced Tuesday that she has lung cancer.

    Reeve, 44, said she decided to disclose her illness following rumors about her health in the media.

    "I have recently been diagnosed with lung cancer, and am currently undergoing treatment," Reeve said in a statement. "I have an excellent team of physicians, and we are optimistic about my prognosis."

    "Now, more than ever, I feel Chris with me as I face this challenge," she said. "As always, I look to him as the ultimate example of defying the odds with strength, courage and hope in the face of life's adversities."

    Reeve, who starred in the Superman films, was paralyzed in a horse-riding accident in 1995. He died Oct. 10, 2004.

    Dana Reeve, an actress, was a constant companion and supporter of her husband during his long ordeal and his work for a cure for spinal cord injuries.

    She is chairwoman of the Christopher Reeve Paralysis Foundation, which funds research on paralysis. To date, it has awarded $55 million in research grants and $7.5 million in quality of life grants.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 15 Aug 05 - 10:39 AM

    Here's a little something about life along the river that is my Mudcat namesake:
    story link and photo link.

    Festival attendance surges Life with the Stilly
    Powwow packs in crowds at Stillaguamish Tribe's Festival of the River
    By Bill Sheets, Herald Writer

    Dancers are coming from all over the western United States. And some of the spectators are from other parts of the world. "I've never seen such a thing," said Vildan Islam of Anacortes, and a native of Turkey, of the 16th annual Festival of the River at River Meadows County Park east of Arlington on Sunday. Islam lived in New York for 17 years until moving to the Northwest recently. "For me it's very interesting," she said while watching the American Indian dancers at the festival's powwow.

    An American Indian dancer performs during the traditional grand entrance of the dancers Sunday at the Stillaguamish Tribe's 16th annual Festival of the River at River Meadows County Park outside of Arlington. The Stillaguamish Tribe's event, which started as a way to promote education about the condition of the Stillaguamish River, has grown into a diverse, two-day event with live music, traditional dancing and drumming, a logging show and competition, storytellers, puppeteers, a birds-of-prey display, food and arts and crafts.

    Final numbers weren't available Sunday, but attendance at the alcohol-free festival has reached an all-time high, organizers said. "This is bigger than we've ever had," said tribal member Mikki Swimmer, a powwow organizer. Another boost to the festival the past two years could be the absence of the Love Israel family's Garlic Festival, which was held nearby. The festival, last held two years ago, folded after bankruptcy forced the family to give up its land. "I think in the end it probably does have an effect," said Eddie Goodridge Jr., the tribe's executive director, adding that some attending the festival in the past went to both events in the same day.

    At the Festival of the River, the live music packs 'em in and is probably the event's biggest draw, Goodridge said. But the powwow is catching up. "The attendance at the powwow's gone way up, it's a huge draw," Goodridge said. Some festival visitors said Sunday they enjoyed the variety at the event. But most said they were there to see the dancers, who dress in full regalia. "We're totally in awe," said Miki Durand of Mukilteo. She and her husband attended the festival for the first time after a friend told her about it.

    "I like to see the Indian dancing and pretty costumes," said Louise Vienneau of Mount Vernon, also at the event for the first time. She brought a group of exchange students from Japan to the festival, she said.

    About 200 American Indian dancers came in different types of regalia, all of it colorful. Some is a modernized style for "fancy dancing," as it's called, while other dress was from different traditions of the Plains, Southwest and Northwest coastal tribes, Swimmer said. Some of the young Stillaguamish dancers are learning the tribe's own traditional dances, which had nearly been lost, she said. "You get a chance to see some of the traditional native culture blended together with the modern way," said Gene Wiggins of Everett, who with his wife, Jessie, has attended the festival for several years. "The sense of community here, the closeness, I enjoy and appreciate (it)," he said.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 15 Aug 05 - 03:49 PM

    Well, duh. . . how do you suppose anyone can tell THIS is a scam? I'd think that anyone stupid enough to follow those directions should be arrested for being too idiotic to walk around free in public. . .

    Con Artists Using Forged Arkansas Checks
    August 15, 2005

    LITTLE ROCK, Ark. - A check scam operation is sending job seekers forged checks from the state of Arkansas and asking them to wire the money overseas, state officials said Monday.

    Some checks were successfully cashed, but state officials did not say how much money was involved. The checks are not honored when they reach Arkansas, and the state has not lost any money in the scam, state Treasurer Gus Wingfield said.

    Reports of the forged checks have come in from 18 other states, officials said.

    "These scam artists are using Arkansas' name to commit their crime," Attorney General Mike Beebe said. "Our state agencies will continue to investigate and trace these checks to put a stop to this activity."

    The con artists are targeting job hunters posting resumes online. Job seekers are "hired" by a company calling itself Void Computers Inc., and are then asked to help the company cash checks worth $5,200 from Arkansas, which it says is one of its clients.

    Checks were mailed from Turkey with instructions to cash the checks and wire the money to an address in Latvia, minus a 10 percent fee the consumer may keep. Applicants are urged to avoid banks, and instead go to a check-casher, liquor store or similar business.

    No arrests were announced, but Beebe said his investigators have consulted with the U.S. Postal Inspectors Office and the FBI.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Amos
    Date: 15 Aug 05 - 04:03 PM

    DUmber than a wagon-load of creek rocks, I reckon, to use my pasl Bobert's expression.


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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 25 Aug 05 - 05:25 PM

    Idle brain invites dementia
    Researchers say daydreaming may cause changes that lead to the onset of Alzheimer's disease


    Scientists have scanned the brains of young people when they are doing, well, nothing, and they found that a region active during this daydreaming state is the one hard-hit by the scourge of old age: Alzheimer's.

    "We never expected to see this," said Randy L. Buckner, a Howard Hughes Medical Institute investigator at Washington University in St. Louis. He said he suspects these activity patterns may, over decades of daily use, wear down the brain, sparking a chemical cascade that results in the disease's classic deposits and tangles that damage the brain.

    The regions identified are active when people daydream or think to themselves, Buckner said. When these regions are damaged, an older person may not be able to access the thoughts to follow through on an action, or even make sense of a string of thoughts. The study appears this week in the Journal of Neuroscience.

    The scientists used a variety of brain-scanning devices in more than 760 adults of all ages. Usually, scanning is done when volunteers carry out a particular mental task, such as remembering a list of words. This time, they were scanned without anything to do.

    What emerged on the images was what Buckner and his colleagues call the brain's "default" state. The brain remains in this state when it's not concentrating on a task like reading or talking. It's the place where the mind wanders. This default region lines up perfectly with the regions that are initially damaged in Alzheimer's.

    "It may be the normal cognitive function of the brain that leads to Alzheimer's later in life," Buckner said. He suspects the brain's metabolic activity slows over time in this region, making it vulnerable to mind-robbing symptoms.

    The scientists say this finding could prove useful diagnostically - a way to identify the disease early, even before symptoms appear.

    "You have to get to this pathology before it has its biggest effect," said William Klunk, an associate professor of psychiatry at the University of Pittsburgh and a co-investigator in the current study. Klunk developed an imaging tool that tracks amyloid plaque deposited in the brains of living Alzheimer's patients.

    The next step will be to see whether the sticky amyloid-filled plaques are dependent on the brain's metabolism. If so, there could be novel ways to attack the disease.

    The latest thinking among Alzheimer's scientists is that the underpinnings of the disease may be decades in the making. About a decade ago, David Snowdon of the University of Kentucky Medical Center published what has become a classic study of health and aging. He followed 678 nuns, ranging in age from 75 to 107, and analyzed journal entries and essays written when they joined the order as young women. He identified an association between the writing and the risk for Alzheimer's far into the future. The richer the detail in the essays, the less likely the writers were to develop Alzheimer's.

    Others have confirmed these findings, including a study by Case Western Reserve University School of Medicine researchers. They recently published a study using high school records from the 1940s to identify nearly 400 graduates. They tracked their health status through adulthood into old age. A higher IQ in high school reduced the risk of Alzheimer's by about half.

    Copyright 2005 Newsday Inc.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: The Fooles Troupe
    Date: 25 Aug 05 - 07:47 PM

    Use it or lose it!

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 27 Aug 05 - 05:32 PM

    You could say "use it or lose it" here also: these things are like snowmobiles, a real menace in the way they are operated by people who have no business charging around without some safety instruction first:


    Watercraft worries climb
    Inexperience often behind injuries, deaths on water

    By Cathy Logg, Herald Writer

    Peri-Lyn Johnson of Snohomish was driving her boat on Flowing Lake Aug. 13 when a boy flagged her down. The boy, 13, and a woman, both on Jet Ski-type watercraft, had collided. The boy was not injured, but the woman was facedown in the water. Johnson directed Snohomish High School students Josh Foust, 16, and Jon Richter, 15, to jump from her boat and rescue the unconscious woman. The boys and Johnson got her into the boat and rushed toward shore.

    "She had an enormous gash over her eye," Johnson recalled. "Her shoulder was also dislocated." Johnson's husband, Mark, began administering first aid. The accident victim, Rebecca Oropeza, 48, of Lynnwood has been at Harborview Medical Center in Seattle since the accident. "Her life will never be the same," Johnson said. Oropeza was one of three Snohomish County residents seriously injured or killed in recent personal watercraft accidents.

    Edward Ferguson, 45, of Everett died about 9:30 p.m. Aug. 14 when he struck an overhanging limb in darkness on the Snohomish River. His funeral was Aug. 19. And a 10-year-old Mukilteo girl lost her arm in an accident on Lake Goodwin.

    According to state records, there about 26,000 personal watercraft licensed in the state in 2004, representing about 10 percent of all recreational boats. "That's just the ones that have registered," said Mark Kenny, coordinator of the state Parks and Recreation Commission's marine law enforcement unit. "Personal watercraft appeal to a wide number of people, not just young people who cowboy around," he added.

    Considered the motorcycles of the waterways, personal watercraft are fast and fun, but too often are seen as water toys instead of motorized vessels that can cause serious injury and death. They're the only watercraft whose operators are required to be at least 14 years old in Washington state, but many underage youths, including two in the recent accidents, drive them anyway.

    Between 1996 and 2002, all but two of those younger than 14 involved in boating accidents statewide were aboard personal watercraft, parks records say. During that period, the most common marine accident involved a personal watercraft or open motorboat shorter than 21 feet.

    Authorities say that as state waters become more crowded with such watercraft, it's critical for their operators to know the vessels and their characteristics, as well as boating regulations, and to follow them.

    Jet Skis and similar watercraft have grown in popularity because they are less expensive than conventional boats and are more versatile. While early models in the mid- to late-1980s were noisy and made for single riders, newer models are up to 12 feet long, can carry four people, have quieter engines and don't pollute. But they're technically a boat, and all state and federal boating regulations apply to them.

    "Because people tend to view them as water toys and not as boats, they just go play with them and don't take the time to familiarize themselves with the machines and the characteristics," Snohomish County sheriff's Lt. Rodney Rochon said.

    On Aug. 14, three middle school students were aboard a personal watercraft on Lake Goodwin near Lakewood, with a 13-year-old driving. A 10-year-old Mukilteo girl fell off, and her arm tangled in a rope used to pull skiers or inner tubes. The rope tightened and severed the girl's arm at the elbow. She is recovering and has subsequently been released from Harborview Medical Center in Seattle. Her name has not been released under federal privacy laws.

    In the Flowing Lake crash, Oropeza's niece, Angela Smith, was on duty at the north county emergency dispatch center when she learned that Oropeza had been injured. Smith heard the dispatch for an airlift helicopter. "It was really awful, knowing how a lot of these calls end," Smith said. "An airlift isn't a good thing." Oropeza suffered broken ribs, a broken back, a fractured skull, internal bleeding and several ruptured or lacerated organs. Originally listed in critical condition, she is now in satisfactory condition. She is unable to breathe on her own, family members said. She's sedated and confused, so her family doesn't know what she remembers of the accident. "This is so strange. You're just out there having fun, and boom," said her sister, Kathy Scott of Oroville.

    "Personal watercraft are boats; they're very powerful and very fast," Rochon said. "Because of their handling characteristics, you can get into trouble very easily and very quickly."

    Even officers aren't immune to accidents. About 10 years ago, Lake Stevens police Sgt. Ron Brooks was on patrol on a personal watercraft. Another boater who was traveling too fast struck Brooks' craft, cracking its hull and knocking him into the water, Chief Randy Celori said. Brooks suffered broken ribs and missed several months of work. Rochon said the woman in that accident had only had her watercraft for a couple of hours, hadn't bothered to read the instruction manual and thought she'd be fine because she'd ridden one before.

    Some riders get into trouble while being playful or because they don't know the "rules of the road" on the water. Many personal watercraft riders like to get close to boats to use their wakes for jumping, Celori said. "That's very dangerous, especially when the water is heavily populated with other boats," he said. "On a warm summer day, you'll have in excess of maybe 100 vessels" on Lake Stevens.

    People also are unaware of how fast personal watercraft can go and may not realize that not all life jackets are rated for 60 to 70 mph, Celori said. At high speeds, some life jackets can be torn off as boaters hit the water. Many riders also aren't aware they can lose control of a watercraft when the throttle is released. "You reduce throttle and power out of a problem. If you completely cut the power, you have no forward thrust and no steerage," Kenny said.

    "Experience is a great teacher in this. All too often, we see these accidents are the result of inexperienced operators riding a personal watercraft and not recognizing this until it's too late." People who think they're experienced because they've handled other boats don't necessarily know how to operate a personal watercraft, Rochon said.

    Similarly, they may have operated boats after dark but aren't safe operating personal watercraft at night. "We were investigating the case on Lake Goodwin, and it was dark, and we still saw personal watercraft heading across the lake," Rochon said.

    Another problem is operating them in hazardous areas. In Ferguson's nighttime accident, Everett police initially thought he had struck a submerged object in the water, Lt. Ted Olafson said. "There's quite a number of logs and debris and things in the water and floating down the river," he said.

    Steps are being taken to improve the safety of personal watercraft. In its last session, the state Legislature mandated boating safety education for those 20 and younger beginning Jan. 1, 2008.

    "We're using the time between now and the implementation of that law as a kind of grace period, but when that law goes into effect, there's going to be no excuse. They will be cited," Rochon said. He added that marine officers hand out pamphlets, and regulations are posted, but people don't read them. "We have the regulations to prevent a lot of problems already in place," Rochon said. "It's just that people have to abide by them."

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 14 Sep 05 - 11:14 AM

    Wednesday, September 14, 2005

    Machias Elementary School students find a loaded handgun during recess
    Friends earn high praise for their quick thinking

    By Melissa Slager and Diana Hefley, Herald Writers

    MACHIAS - A new playground at Machias Elementary School was swarming with children Monday morning, their first chance to try out the brightly colored new jungle gym. Grayson Pope, 8, was sick of waiting. So he turned instead to an old standby and one of his favorites - a big metal swing set. As he soared higher and higher, the third-grader glanced down and saw something surprising. He turned to a friend. "Hey! There's a gun in the wood chips. We should go tell a teacher."

    School staff, parents and police officers are praising Grayson and schoolmate Khoa Nguyen, 9, a fourth-grader, for doing the right thing - leaving the loaded gun they found untouched and immediately telling their teacher. Police say the incident could have taken a turn for the worse if one of the boys had picked up the gun. The .32-caliber pistol doesn't have an external safety, and there was a bullet in the chamber.

    "If he would have picked it up and treated it like a toy, it could have been awful," said Snohomish County Sheriff's Office spokesman Rich Niebusch. "The (boys) did the right thing and should be highly commended."

    Each year, about 25 children are hospitalized due to unintentional gun injuries, according to Children's Hospital and Regional Medical Center in Seattle. Four to five children are killed in accidental shootings every year in Washington state.

    Investigators don't know how the handgun ended up on the playground, Niebusch said. It doesn't appear that a student brought the gun to school. The sheriff's office didn't have any reports of shots fired in the area. Detectives are trying to track down the gun's owner using the serial number, Niebusch said. The person may be difficult to find unless the gun was purchased from a licensed dealer and is registered in a statewide database.

    Both boys said they were "scared and nervous" about the discovery. "Why was it even there, and who did it?" Grayson asked.

    Khoa wondered if someone from a nearby gun range "came over to play and dropped it." Either that, he said, "or it was a bad guy running and it slipped out of his pocket." Neither boy had seen a firearm up close before, but both have learned from their parents and in school assemblies and classes what to do if they came across a weapon. "They're really dangerous," Grayson said.

    Francis and Alison Pope are proud of their son. "So many of these you're hearing, unfortunately, because someone got hurt," Francis Pope said. "It's kind of nice to know they're actually listening when you're talking to them."

    Pope said their eldest son told him he probably would have picked the gun up, so it was a good lesson for him, too. "Grayson's my brother, and I'm proud of him," said Garrett, 11, a fifth grader at the school. The Popes took Grayson out to dinner, and the boy's soccer coach, a firefighter, gave him rolls of Lifesavers candies, telling him he had saved lives by his actions.

    Khoa said his parents, Larry and Lynh Dicken, told him they were proud and let him have a sleepover that night. Principal Ginny Schilaty said custodians each morning scour the playground and adjacent fields for "stuff you don't want kids to see," such as beer bottles left by weekend revelers. Staff did not see the gun during their sweeps, she said.

    The boys found the gun during the third- and fourth-grade recess at 10:15 a.m. More than 120 children were outside at the time. The recess came after two previous playtimes with about 200 younger students. The principal said she was grateful the new play equipment dominated students' attention, as well as brought out more adult supervisors than usual.

    The school sent a letter about the incident home with students on Monday. When the principal on Monday led Grayson over to a sheriff's deputy to make a statement, she said the boy worried that he was in trouble. "No, honey," Schilaty told him. "You're a hero."

    Keep your child safe

    Parents are advised to take the following steps to protect their children from guns:

    * Always lock up firearms when they are not being used. Don't assume your child will not find the gun.

    * Always assume that any firearm is loaded.

    * Use a locking device appropriate for the children living in your house. Do not depend on it as a sole safety measure.

    * Never point a firearm at anyone, even in fun or as a joke.

    * Teach your children that if they see a gun, they should not touch it and should immediately leave the area and tell an adult. Teach them that guns are not toys and that if a friend wants to show them a gun, they should immediately leave the area and tell an adult.

    * Do not assume that other adults think the same way you do. Before letting your child play at someone's house, ask if there are firearms in the home and where they are.

    Source: Safer Child

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 21 Sep 05 - 01:57 PM

    Israeli couple fined for kissing in India
    September 21, 2005 link

    NEW DELHI --India may be the land of the Kamasutra, the famed ancient treatise on sex, but in the country's hinterlands, public displays of affection remain strictly taboo.

    An Israeli couple discovered just how staid the small towns of India can be when they were fined 500 Indian rupees (U.S. $11) each for embracing and kissing after getting married in the Hindu holy town of Pushkar in northwestern India, the Asian Age newspaper reported Wednesday.

    The Israeli Embassy in New Delhi confirmed the incident and identified the couple as Alon Orpaz and Tehila Salev, who decided to get married on a visit to India. The embassy did not provide any additional details.

    The Asian Age said priests at Pushkar's Brahma temple were so incensed when the couple, married in a traditional Hindu ceremony, smooched as hymns were still being chanted that they filed a complaint with the police.

    A court in Pushkar then charged the couple with indecency and ordered them to pay the fine or face 10 days in prison, the newspaper reported, adding that the couple decided to pay up.

    "We will not tolerate any cultural pollution of this sort," the newspaper quoted a priest, Ladoo Ram Sharma, as saying.

    Asian Age reported that the priests planned to ask the government to require tourists to be appropriately dressed when visiting the holy town and its temples

    Pushkar, located on the banks of Pushkar Lake, is a popular Hindu pilgrimage spot. But it is also frequented by foreign tourists, who come for the town's annual cattle fair and camel races.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 24 Sep 05 - 03:43 PM

    This one is going to blow their on-time stats all to pieces:

    Flight Leaves 43 Hours Behind Schedule
    September 24, 2005

    MINNEAPOLIS - A Northwest Airlines flight to Tokyo finally took off Saturday morning - 43 hours late. Mechanical problems and a lack of a crew had kept the Boeing 747-400 on the ground since its scheduled departure time of 3 p.m. Thursday.

    The delay was not caused by the airline's mechanics' strike, which began Aug. 20, Northwest spokeswoman Jennifer Bagdade said. "Northwest experienced mechanical issues prior to the strike and we continue to experience them today. So this isn't new," she said. Passengers were kept on the plane for a total of nine hours over a 24-hour period, said airline spokesman Kurt Ebenhoch.

    Bagdade said Northwest tried to rebook all the passengers on other flights, but many of those flights were full. When the plane finally left on the more than 12-hour-long flight, it carried about 100 fewer passengers than its original 365.

    Northwest apologized to the passengers and will pay for two nights' worth of food and lodging and plans to give them $700 in travel certificates. "It's certainly an unfortunate delay," Ebenhoch said. "We regret the inconvenience; we apologize. We work hard to avoid this. It happens to other airlines as well."

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Donuel
    Date: 24 Sep 05 - 05:00 PM

    Amazing Facts About
    Voting In America

    1. 80% of all votes in America are counted by only two companies: Diebold and ES&S.

    2. There is no federal agency with regulatory authority or oversight of the U.S. voting machine industry.

    3. The vice-president of Diebold election systems and the vice president of aftermarket sales at ES&S are brothers.

    4. The chairman and CEO of Diebold is a major Bush campaign organizer and donor who wrote in 2003 that he was "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year."

    5. Republican Senator Chuck Hagel used to be chairman of ES&S. He became Senator based on votes counted by ES&S machines.

    6. Republican Senator Chuck Hagel, long-connected with the Bush family, was recently caught lying about his ownership of ES&S by the Senate Ethics Committee.

    7. Senator Chuck Hagel was on a short list of George W. Bush's vice-presidential candidates.

    8. ES&S is the largest voting machine manufacturer in the U.S. and counts almost 60% of all U.S. votes.

    9. Diebold's new touch screen voting machines have no paper trail of any votes. In other words, there is no way to verify that the data coming out of the machine is the same as what was legitimately put in by voters.

    10. Diebold also makes ATMs, checkout scanners, and ticket machines, all of which log each transaction and can generate a paper trail.

    11. Diebold is based in Ohio.

    12. Diebold employed 5 convicted felons as consultants and developers to help write the central compiler computer code that counted 50% of the votes in 30 states.

    13. Jeff Dean was Senior Vice-President of General Election Systems when it was bought by Diebold. Even though he had been convicted of 23 counts of felony theft in the first degree, Jeff Dean was retained as a consultant by Diebold and was largely responsible for programming the optical scanning software now used in most of the United States.

    14. Diebold consultant Jeff Dean was convicted of planting back doors in his software and using a "high degree of sophistication" to evade detection over a period of 2 years.

    15. California banned the use of Diebold machines because the security was so bad. Despite Diebold's claims that the audit logs could not be hacked, a chimpanzee was able to do it!

    16. 30% of all U.S. votes are carried out on unverifiable touch screen voting machines with no paper trail.

    17. All-not some-but all the voting machine errors detected and reported in Florida went in favor of Bush or Republican candidates.

    18. The governor of the state of Florida, Jeb Bush, is the President's brother.

    19. Serious voting anomalies in Florida-again always favoring Bush-have been mathematically demonstrated and experts are recommending further investigation.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Amos
    Date: 29 Sep 05 - 11:41 AM

    Missing man found driving dead deer in ambulance

    Associated Press

    JACKSONVILLE, Fla. - A man reported missing from a Florida hospital was found in North Carolina dressed like a doctor and driving a stolen ambulance with a dead deer wedged in the back, authorities said.

    Leon Holliman Jr., 37, was reported missing from a River Region Human Services facility in Jacksonville last month.

    The North Carolina State Highway Patrol found him driving the ambulance with the deer on Sunday.

    "I don't know how the man got it up in there," said Sgt. Robert Pearson. "It was a six point buck."

    It wasn't known where Holliman got the deer, which had been dead for some time, Pearson said.

    Authorities tracked the stolen ambulance through three rural North Carolina counties and one county in southern Virginia before its tires were punctured and it wound up in a ditch, Pearson said.

    Holliman was admitted to a North Carolina hospital for a psychiatric evaluation. Police said they would decide whether to charge Holliman after that evaluation is complete.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 29 Sep 05 - 12:44 PM

    Maybe he'd just read Louise Erdrich's Love Medicine. :)

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 05 Oct 05 - 03:16 PM

    Witness: 'Intelligent Design' Used in Book
    October 05, 2005

    HARRISBURG, Pa. - Early drafts of a student biology text contained references to creationism before they were replaced with the term "intelligent design," a witness testified Wednesday in a landmark trial over a school system's use of the book.

    Drafts of the textbook, Of Pandas and People, written in 1987 were revised after the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in June of that year that states could not require schools to balance evolution with creationism in the classroom, said Barbara Forrest, a philosophy professor at Southeastern Louisiana University.

    Forrest reviewed drafts of the textbook as a witness for eight families who are trying to have the intelligent design concept removed from the Dover Area School District's biology curriculum.

    The families contend that teaching intelligent design effectively promotes the Bible's view of creation, violating the separation of church and state.

    Intelligent design holds that life on Earth is so complex that it must have been the product of some higher force. Opponents of the concept say intelligent design is simply creationism stripped of overt religious references.

    Forrest outlined a chart of how many times the term "creation" was mentioned in the early drafts versus how many times the term "design" was mentioned in the published edition.

    "They are virtually synonymous," she said.

    Under the policy approved by Dover's school board in October 2004, students must hear a brief statement about intelligent design before classes on evolution. The statement says Charles Darwin's theory is "not a fact" and has inexplicable "gaps."

    The trial began Sept. 26 and is expected to last as long as five weeks.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: The Fooles Troupe
    Date: 05 Oct 05 - 09:55 PM

    The statement says Charles Darwin's theory is "not a fact" and has inexplicable "gaps."

    as is the case in all Scientific Theories. Witness the progress of the wave/particle theory of light (electromagnetism), Quantum mechanics, etc.

    The gaps are indeed 'part of the theories' - and are where the knowledge advances.

    Only simple minded idiots NEED to have absolute explanations without gaps for everything in life. Unfortunately many Religious Followers need such absolute security called 'facts'.

    Even more unfortunately, real life is open ended, not closed.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 06 Oct 05 - 10:40 AM

    Over-arching umbrellas are remarkably unstable in a breeze, let alone a high wind. Religion and science can coexist, but religions need to stop trying to co-opt science any more than they have already.

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    From: Amos
    Date: 06 Oct 05 - 11:01 AM

    The "inexplicable gaps" are mostly places where the record of fossils is incomplete. This is not a cognitive flaw in the fundamental mechanism described by the theory, but an artifact of momentous historical waves of time, matter, and force.


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    From: Acme
    Date: 06 Oct 05 - 03:10 PM

    Q: how do you spell l-a-w-s-u-i-t?

    US Forest Service whistleblower fired

    Last Update: 10/06/2005
    By: Associated Press

    ALBUQUERQUE (AP) - A US Forest Service official who voiced concerns about alleged pesticide misuse in forests across the Southwest has been fired. Doug Parker worked as the pesticide coordinator and assistant director of forestry health for the agency's Southwestern region.

    Parker has told The Associated Press that he was removed from his duties last week because his supervisor said he failed to follow instructions.

    Parker filed a whistleblower complaint earlier this year. He alleged a systemic problem when it comes to proper pesticide use across several forests in New Mexico and Arizona. Parker accused some managers of not preparing environmental risk assessments.

    The Forest Service has declined to comment about Parker's case because of pending civil and legal actions.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Joe Offer
    Date: 10 Oct 05 - 12:19 AM

    Robbery Suspect Caught

    Auburn, California, Monday, October 3.
    The Auburn Journal, Oct 5

    A Newcastle man who led police on a brief chase was behind bars in Placer County Jail Tuesday morning.
    Kevin Stovall, 25, reportedly broke into a 1992 Dodge Caravan in the Auburn Town Center parking lot Monday afternoon around 3 p.m. while the owner of the vehicle was at the Flour Garden Bakery, said an officer of the Auburn Police Department.
    Beverly Pando (who'd rather not tell her age) and Joseph Offer, 50 (well, 57), of Auburn, noticed the man near Pando's vehicle and walked up to him.
    "(Offer) confronted the suspect who tried to give him some kind of story that he was getting the keys out of his girlfriend's car," the officer said. "The suspect gets out of the car as the victim is dialing her cell phone to call the police and he grabs it and says he's not going to go back to prison."
    Stovall then fled the area and "the chase was on" (they didn't say it, but Offer did the chasing, walking rather briskly until the guy got out of sight. Then the police flushed him out and tackled him).
    He didn't get far and was apprehended by an Auburn police officer.
    Stovall was booked on charges of suspicion of robbery, burglary, and resisting arrest. He remains in Placer County Jail on $50,000 bail.

    Gee, it was the first time I've ever seen a crime in progress, and I stopped it. Kind of an interesting experience. In my Walter Mitty reveries, I've wondered if I could bluff a criminal into custody by telling him to put his hands up against the car and frisking him. The guy didn't buy the bluff, so I had to chase him to try to get my friend's phone back. That didn't work, either. The cops got the guy, but not the phone.

    -Joe Offer-

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 10 Oct 05 - 12:53 AM

    Good guy, Joe!

    And now you see why this thread is so handy? You can post this kind of article and a few folks will read it and enjoy it, but you don't have to worry about starting a new thread and all of the goofy stuff that goes with it, because all comers are welcome.

    So what happened to your friend's phone between when it was grabbed and when the police grabbed him? With a $50,000 bail it looks like they mean business about keeping him.

    I remember watching the news on a local Texas channel quite a few years back when a young upstart of a news reporter, on the air, actually caught a burglar in the act in a mall parking lot during his remote news segment. He asked him a couple of questions, and as the guy turned to flee, the reporter did a "what the hell" kind of look, tossed the mic down, and tackled the guy. It was great television!


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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: The Fooles Troupe
    Date: 10 Oct 05 - 07:10 AM

    Well done Joe. Of course, you may have been hurt. but what the hell, in those circumstances it seemed the right thing to do...

    Out here, we regularly have stories of old pensioners beating up would be robbers muggers - thy just have to 'have a go' too.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Amos
    Date: 10 Oct 05 - 07:26 AM

    Yayyyyy, Joe. What an offer!!


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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: JennyO
    Date: 10 Oct 05 - 11:37 AM

    Goodonya Joe. It's a pity there aren't more people in the world like you, who are ready to go the extra mile for their fellow human beings!


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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 13 Oct 05 - 06:44 PM

    Woman Charged in Pregnant Neighbor Attack
    October 13, 2005

    PITTSBURGH - A woman clubbed her pregnant neighbor over the head with a baseball bat, drove her to the woods and cut her belly with a knife in an attempt to steal her baby, police say.

    Police said Wednesday's attack on Valerie Oskin was stopped before her baby was taken after a teenager on an all-terrain vehicle came across the women. Oskin, 30, later underwent an emergency Caesarean section at a hospital. State police Thursday said she was in critical condition and her baby in stable condition. She was believed to have been in her third trimester of pregnancy, authorities said.

    Peggy Jo Conner, 38, of Ford City, was arraigned Thursday on charges of attempted homicide and aggravated assault and was jailed without bail. Conner had told her live-in partner before the attack that she was pregnant, and investigators found baby-related items in her trailer, Armstrong County District Attorney Scott Andreassi said. "Clearly, she was expecting a child coming in shortly," Andreassi said. "There's nothing to indicate she was pregnant."

    The assault began Wednesday morning, when Conner hit Oskin several times with a bat, Andreassi said. Conner then put Oskin and Oskin's 7-year-old son in her car, dropped the boy off at a family member's house and drove the pregnant woman about 15 miles to a secluded area about 50 miles northeast of Pittsburgh, Andreassi said.

    There, Conner cut Oskin across her abdomen with a razor knife, authorities said. "She was sliced over an old (Caesarean) scar and severely bleeding," Trooper Jonathan Bayer said.

    A 17-year-old boy on an ATV spotted Conner kneeling next to the pregnant woman on the ground, Bayer said. The boy rode home and told his father, who called authorities, who arrested Conner at the scene.

    The pregnant woman "probably would have bled to death if this young boy had not discovered her when he did," Bayer said. A call to Conner's home went unanswered Thursday afternoon. State police said they did not know if she had a lawyer.

    Last December, Bobbie Jo Stinnett, who was eight months pregnant, was strangled at her Missouri home, and her baby was cut from her womb. Prosecutors said Lisa Montgomery showed the baby off as her own before her arrest. She is awaiting trial.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: JohnInKansas
    Date: 16 Oct 05 - 05:59 AM




    The Wichita Eagle

    Ding, dong.
    The witch is dead.
    Or is she?

    We all know that the Munchkin coroner declared the Wicked Witch of the East dead - not only merely dead but really most sincerely dead - in "The Wizard of Oz."

    But the 1939 death had not been recorded as a Kansas fatality, as state law requires, until Friday.

    The Shawnee County Commission appointed 90-year-old Meinhardt Raabe, the Munchkin coroner in the movie, as a spedal deputy coroner so he could sign the certificate and record it with the state. The certificate was accepted Friday in Topeka by State Registrar Lorne Phillips.

    The certificate notes that death was by tornado trauma. And because the tornado picked up the house in Kansas, the death certificate gets signed here.

    The reason for all this is so that the death certificate can be given to organizers of Wamego's first Oztoberfest celebration, this weekend. Phillips said his office wouldn't officially record the certificate.

    Which leads to a question:

    If the death certificate isn't officially recorded, can that wicked witch really be




    and reliably



    Comment: Probably the first sensible thing any member of Kansas State government has done in the past couple of years ... and they don't intend to finish the paperwork on it??????


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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 16 Oct 05 - 10:17 AM

    I heard something on the radio about the scheduling of this event. This must be a quick recovery gimmick after the theft of the Ruby Slippers. They went missing some weeks prior to this event.

    Here's a bit from an article you'll find via Google News

      No sign of ruby slippers stolen from museum
      MEMORABILIA: The theft of the famous shoes from "The Wizard of Oz" draws attention to Judy Garland's birthplace.


      GRAND RAPIDS - Shane Troumbley, who tests paper products by day and acts in "The Wizard of Oz" by night, was supposed to tell the Emerald City gatekeeper that Dorothy's ruby slippers were proof that she should be admitted to see the great and powerful wizard.

      But during a rehearsal last week, Troumbley couldn't resist ad-libbing.

      "She's wearing the ruby slippers we stole from the museum!" he said.

      Art imitated life this week in Grand Rapids, a paper-making, hunting and fishing community along the upper Mississippi where the poplars and maples are in full color and Glen's Army Navy Outdoors store was busy with men with grouse or deer in their sights.

      Troumbley's quip on the stage of the Reif Center, a showplace where a community production of Oz is being mounted, was a reminder of Grand Rapids' claim to artistic fame.

      And infamy.

      He referred to the bold, shocking and inexplicable theft of one of the few known pairs of the sequined ruby slippers used in 1939's "The Wizard of Oz" film. The famed pumps, on loan to the Judy Garland Museum, insured for $1 million and possibly worth far more in an open auction, disappeared from their plexiglass display case six weeks ago during an overnight break-in.

      Grand Rapids is the birthplace of Frances Ethel Gumm, a musical prodigy who became a film and musical phenomenon under her stage name of Judy Garland. Gumm-Garland will forever be Dorothy, the role she played in the Wizard of Oz film, long after she and her family had left Grand Rapids for Hollywood.

      She lived in Grand Rapids less than five years and returned exactly once, on a snowy March day in 1938 that some locals still remember. That didn't keep modern-day Garland fans from moving and restoring her birthplace, filling two museums with memorabilia and hosting an annual festival that draws serious Garland and Oz worshippers from places like California, England and Australia.


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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 03 Nov 05 - 03:59 PM

    Mayor: Sever Thumbs of Graffiti Artists
    November 03, 2005

    RENO, Nev. - Las Vegas Mayor Oscar Goodman has suggested that those who deface freeways with graffiti should have their thumbs cut off on television. Goodman, appearing Wednesday on the "Nevada Newsmakers" television show, said, "In the old days in France, they had beheading of people who commit heinous crimes.

    "You know, we have a beautiful highway landscaping redevelopment in our downtown. We have desert tortoises and beautiful paintings of flora and fauna. These punks come along and deface it.

    "I'm saying maybe you put them on TV and cut off a thumb," the mayor added. "That may be the right thing to do." Goodman also suggested that whippings or canings should be brought back for children who get into trouble. "I also believe in a little bit of corporal punishment going back to the days of yore, where examples have to be shown," Goodman said.

    "I'm dead serious," said Goodman, adding, "Some of these (children) don't learn. You have got to teach them a lesson, and this is coming from a criminal defense lawyer."

    "They would get a trial first," he added.

    Another panelist on the show, Howard Rosenberg, a state university system regent, responded by saying that cutting off the thumbs of taggers won't solve the problem and Goodman should "use his head for something other than a hat rack."

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 03 Nov 05 - 06:05 PM

    Copernicus' Grave Found in Polish Church
    Polish Archeologists Believe They've Found Grave of 16th-Century Astronomer Copernicus in a Church

    WARSAW, Poland Nov 3, 2005 ? Polish archeologists believe they have located the grave of 16th-century astronomer and solar-system proponent Nicolaus Copernicus in a Polish church, one of the scientists announced Thursday.

    Copernicus, who died in 1543 at 70 after challenging the ancient belief that the sun revolved around the earth, was buried at the Roman Catholic cathedral in the city of Frombork, 180 miles north of the capital, Warsaw.

    Jerzy Gassowski, head of an archaeology and anthropology institute in Pultusk, central Poland, said his four-member team found what appears to be the skull of the Polish astronomer and clergyman in August, after a one-year search of tombs under the church floor.

    "We can be almost 100 percent sure this is Copernicus," Gassowski told The Associated Press by phone after making the announcement during a meeting of scientists.

    Gassowski said police forensic experts used the skull to reconstruct a face that closely resembled the features including a broken nose and scar above the left eye on a Copernicus self-portrait. The experts also determined the skull belonged to a man who died at about age 70.

    The grave was in bad condition and not all remains were found, Gassowski said, adding that his team will try to find relatives of Copernicus to do more accurate DNA identification.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Bill D
    Date: 03 Nov 05 - 07:55 PM

    op-ed in Washington Post Nov.3

    ( link

    Why Jesus Is Welcome In the Public Square
    Religiosity Isn't Just the Right's Territory

    By Jennifer Moses

    Thursday, November 3, 2005; Page A21

    BATON ROUGE, La. -- It's not news that the Christian right often appears to want nothing other than to impose its values, religious and otherwise, on the rest of the nation. But liberals would be mistaken to assume that it's only people on the far right who rely on the word of God for everything from Sunday sermon topics to public policymaking. In towns like Baton Rouge, religion is so much a part of public life that most folks can't begin to fathom that there might be something less than healthy in the blend. Of course, the religion in question is always a fairly distinct brand of down-home Protestantism, but what the hell. If you don't like Jesus, that's your business.

    Actually, for a Jewish girl, I'm on pretty good terms with him. Despite my initial discomfiture with living in a place where people routinely ask "Where do y'all go to church?" I don't mind, and even welcome, being on the receiving end of blessings, Christian or otherwise. Being told "Jesus loves you, baby," by my favorite postal clerk doesn't offend me. Nor do I mind the billboards dotting the interstate ("Looking for a Sign from God? Here it is!") or the inclination of most of my neighbors to talk about their personal quests in terms of divine will.

    Given the human habit of unleashing violence in the name of God, perhaps I'm naive, but I tend to believe that the Christian religiosity that's the common currency of great swaths of our country generally does more good than harm, giving people a sense of purpose and community where they might not otherwise have either. But I'm talking mainly about what I call the "good" Jesus -- the Jesus of the Sermon on the Mount, the one who, through his people, clothes the naked and feeds the hungry. In the wake of hurricanes Katrina and Rita, it's that Jesus who's been making the rounds, so much so that Jim Towey, director of the White House Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives, came to Baton Rouge to praise the efforts of local churches. (Well he should, too, since the federal government has all but abandoned us to our own resources.) The local newspaper covered the visit in detail. What it failed to do was mention that there might be something suspect in having a White House office of faith-based anything.

    Welcome to the Bible Belt, y'all -- or at least to my small and not particularly dogmatic corner of it. (If you want the real thing, you have to go farther north, to Shreveport or Monroe.) South Louisiana is famously laid-back, and while there are those who believe, for example, that Catholics are going to burn in hell because they worship the pope, most folks just want to get along. That said, part of getting along means accommodating local norms, maybe even trampling on the Constitution now and then, because, after all, what's the big deal if the fellows pray before the high school football game? It's not like anyone's making them, and, anyway, most of the kids, maybe even all of them, are Christian.

    So prevalent is this last sentiment that even the Louisiana State University law school follows it, hanging an enormous Christmas wreath over its imposing neoclassical entrance every December -- to the annual protests of faculty who point out that while such a display may be constitutionally kosher, it's also, at the very least, obnoxious. But the religious sentiments don't come only from the right. In March, the Democratic governor, Kathleen Blanco, endorsed publicly sponsored prayer at Tangipahoa Parish School Board meetings. The black community, which is generally liberal, uniformly voted in favor of a state amendment banning anything that so much as hinted at the legalization of same-sex unions. It's not unusual for a preacher to start things off at political rallies, either. I attended one rally last year, where, on the steps of the state Capitol, people carrying signs that read "Leave No Millionaire Behind" and "When Clinton Lied, No One Died" bowed their heads in the name of Jesus. Not to mention that Christian ministry is a major part of what passes for rehabilitation in the state prisons.

    If one common mistake liberals make is assuming that the great majority of Bible-thumping (or tapping) comes from the right, a second -- and to my mind, more important -- mistake is equating this style of religiosity with something as simple as narrow-minded ignorance. Rather, bringing God and his word as expressed in the Bible into the debate points to a profound lack of meaning and vision in our public discourse, and a searing pessimism that anyone, or any institution, in public life might put things right. It points, also, to disgust: disgust not only with our elected leaders but also with the cheapening of life around us, whether by blatant sexuality on television, soaring drug abuse, the acceptance of out-of-wedlock birth or the loss of the communal ties that once grounded us.

    As far as I can tell, progressives and liberals of all stripes don't even begin to fathom the despair and confusion most ordinary Americans feel when they hear the latest violent rap song or see a billboard plastered with an image of a 16-year-old clad only in Calvin Klein underwear. The right wing of the Republican Party, on the other hand, has long understood that most Americans yearn for something nobler in our national life, but it doesn't care unless it can use frustration and despair to harvest rage, and rage to harvest votes.

    What's the answer? I don't know, but it might help if our political leaders stopped spinning and, like the prophets of old, spoke the truth.

    Jennifer Moses is a writer who grew up in McLean and has lived in Baton Rouge for 10 years.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Amos
    Date: 03 Nov 05 - 10:59 PM

    Good fer Jennifer.

    She's moving her finger right toward the ole button -- the debasement of genuine purpose and the elevation of bread-and-circus mediocrity.The notion of elevating noptoriety and celebrity (the condition of being well-known for being well-known) to importance is a media trick that has eroded our mental and spiritual life for a fistful of advertising dollars. Smart of her to connect the dots like that.

    As for old Nikolai Copernicus, that's a pretty good resting spot for a guy who blew the terra-centric cosmology right out the ole stained glass window. He shoulda given some tips to Galileo or had him move to Poland.


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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 05 Nov 05 - 03:25 PM

    Drive-through robber leaves empty-handed

    FORT WORTH - The convenience of bank drive-throughs is appealing to more than just customers nowadays. Robbers like them, too. Police say a man drove into Summit Bank's drive-through at 3000 Altamesa Blvd. about 11:30 a.m. Friday and tried unsuccessfully to make a big withdrawal using a robbery note. It was the second such episode in Fort Worth in a little more than a week.

    "Maybe it's a lazier breed of bank robber," quipped Fort Worth police robbery Detective J.E. Livesay. In Friday's robbery attempt, the driver of a Chevy Astro van passed the note, tucked inside a small black bag that looked like a shaving kit, through the teller's drawer.

    Fill up the bag, the note demanded. Large bills only. Don't sound the alarm. Put the note back in the bag.

    The teller who read the note had been on duty during a similar robbery attempt at the bank this year, Livesay said. "She saw the note and read it, and she immediately dropped to the floor and told all the employees they were being robbed again," he said.

    Employees took cover and sounded the holdup alarm. The robber, growing impatient, honked his horn after about two minutes and spoke briefly with the bank's manager over the intercom. "She yelled at him, 'What do you want?'," Livesay said. "He said 'I want my deposit back' and she said, 'You don't have a deposit. You're not a customer. You're trying to rob us. Get out of here.'" The robber pulled forward, then stopped and backed up, narrowly missing another vehicle behind him, Livesay said. The robber then fled before officers arrived.

    He is described as an unshaven white man in his 40s driving a light blue Chevy Astro minivan with Texas paper tags dated Nov. 21. He has short dark hair and was wearing a brown cap and sunglasses. Livesay said police are investigating whether the robbery attempt is related to an Oct. 27 holdup of the Bank of America at 116 E. Seminary Drive. In that robbery, a man driving a silver or gray 1990s-model pickup passed a note demanding cash, then fled with an undisclosed amount.

    In August, Fort Worth police arrested a 39-year-old man suspected of robbing two banks and trying to rob three others using drive-through windows, including one at the Summit Bank. In those robberies, a man whom authorities nicknamed the "drive-through bandit" passed threatening notes to tellers. The robber did not display a weapon and drove different cars, police have said.

    Cleo C. Moore, a convicted bank robber who had recently been released from a Fort Worth halfway house, is awaiting trial on federal bank robbery charges in those cases.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 11 Nov 05 - 01:16 PM

    Hmmm. I seem to be noticing these more, or are there just more robberies being reported?

    Woman Robs Banks While on Her Cell Phone
    November 11, 2005

    WASHINGTON - These days it seems that some people just can't go anywhere or do anything without a cell phone in their ear. In northern Virginia the police say they're looking for a woman who's been holding up banks while chatting on her phone.

    "This is the first time that I can recall where we've had a crime committed while the person was using a cell phone," Loudoun County sheriff's spokesman Kraig Troxell told The Washington Post in a story published Friday. "The question would be whether anyone is on the other end of the line or not."

    Investigators believe the woman has hit four Wachovia bank branches in recent weeks in Fairfax, Loudoun and Prince William counties. In three of those bank jobs, she was talking on a cell phone, while showing the teller a box with a holdup note attached to it. In the most recent holdup, on Nov. 4, in Ashburn, the robber showed the teller a gun.

    The woman is described as well-spoken, with a slight Hispanic accent. Investigators say they're not sure if she's actually talking to someone on the phone or just pretending. They also won't speculate on why she's chosen only Wachovia branches.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 12 Nov 05 - 11:13 AM

    Boater Rescued From Sharks Off Fla. Coast
    November 12, 2005

    ANNAPOLIS, Maryland - A man whose boat capsized in rough seas off the Florida coast treaded water for six hours, watching his friend die, while two boaters refused to pick him up apparently thinking he was an illegal immigrant from Haiti. Rogers Washington was eventually saved by two other boaters on Thursday who spotted him frantically waving his arms and shouting "I'm an American! I'm an American!"

    "It would have been very easy not to have seen him," said David Pensky, 61, who saved Washington. "At first, I wasn't sure if he was a diver trying to make sure I didn't hit him." he told The (Annapolis) Capital, a Maryland newspaper. Pensky and Richard Holden, 63, noticed the fisherman, orange whistle to his lips, floating with the aid of a cooler lid and a small life vest shoved under his arm.

    "They are the best men in the world," Washington said on Friday. "They are God's children." Washington said he capsized while on a fishing trip with Robert Lewis Moore, 62, also from Florida, after two large waves hit his 22-foot (7-meter) boat. The boat went down quickly, leaving the men clutching life vests.

    Moore probably had a heart attack and died when a shark began circling them, Washington said. He tried resuscitating Moore, but it didn't work. He held onto his friend for about 45 minutes. "I had to let him go so I could try to survive," he said.

    Washington floated alone in the choppy seas for about five more hours, the coastline visible in the distance. A hammerhead shark came within 5 feet (1.5 meters) of him. Two boats, a charter and a sailboat, passed within a couple hundred feet (60 meters). No one on those boats offered to help.

    "They waved at me. I know they saw me," said Washington, who is black and believes the other boaters thought he was an illegal immigrant from Haiti. Moore's body was found Thursday by a fisherman.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 13 Nov 05 - 12:45 AM

    Man sentenced to 6 years for chipping Inca ruins during filming

    LIMA, Peru - A camera crane operator shooting a commercial at the Machu Picchu Inca ruins whose equipment tipped and chipped a stone sundial there has been sentenced to six years in prison, officials said Friday. The local court in Urubamba, 338 miles southeast of the capital, Lima, said it had found Walter Leonidas Espinoza guilty on Nov. 3 of destruction and alteration of cultural goods. The charge carries a maximum penalty of eight years behind bars.

    Antonio Terrazas, a lawyer acting as spokesman for Peru's Institute of Culture, said offenders are seldom charged and when they are prosecuted and found guilty, it normally results only in a fine or a few months in jail. Espinoza has appealed his sentence, authorities said.

    The production company Espinoza worked for knocked a corner edge off the Intihuatana, or "hitching post for the sun," in 2000 while shooting the commercial for the Backus beer company.

    The Intihuatana was used by Inca astronomers to predict solstices and was of great importance in Inca mythology and agriculture. It is considered to be the most important shrine in Machu Picchu, Peru's biggest tourist attraction, high in the jungle-covered Andes, about 310 miles southeast of the capital, Lima.

    Officials with Backus, which faces a civil lawsuit along with the advertising firm that hired the production company, declined to comment Friday.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 17 Nov 05 - 11:44 AM

    Texas Town Adopts Corporate Name
    Various links to stories about this.

    November 17, 2005

    DISH, Texas - Back in the 1950s, Hot Springs, N.M., was renamed Truth or Consequences, N.M., after a popular quiz show. During the dot-com boom of 2000, Halfway, Ore., agreed to become for a year. This week, Clark, Texas, morphed into DISH in exchange for a decade of free satellite television from the DISH Network for the town's 55 homes. Residents in Santa, Idaho, meanwhile, are weighing the pros and cons of changing to, Idaho. Across the nation, small communities are being courted by large corporations who say renaming a town provides a marketing buzz that can't be bought in television ads. Though some worry about corporate America's increasing influence in local government, many towns seem eager to accept.

    In a deal unanimously approved Tuesday by the two-member town council, Clark agreed to become DISH permanently, effective immediately. It's part of an advertising campaign for Englewood, Colo.-based EchoStar Communications Corp., which operates the DISH Network satellite TV system. The company pegged the deal at about $4,500 per home in the rural patch of ranch land, which is about a half hour's drive north of Dallas-Fort Worth.

    Beyond the lure of free TV service for the 125 residents, the renaming is a way for the town to attract businesses and residents, said Mayor Bill Merritt, who courted EchoStar to pick the town. "We really look at this as kind of a rebirth for our community," Merritt said. "We want everybody to come here."

    The town was founded in June 2000 by L.E. Clark, who sharply criticized the renaming. "I don't especially like it," said Clark, who lost to Merritt in May's mayoral election. "I worked my butt off a little over a year getting it incorporated."

    It was 1950 when Hot Springs, N.M., voted 1,294-295 to change its name to Truth or Consequences. Host Ralph Edwards, who died Wednesday at age 92, had promised to broadcast the popular radio show from the town that agreed to the change. In 2000, Halfway, Ore., become for a year in an agreement that put $100,000 in the town coffer and a new computer lab in the school. Though the name is back to Halfway, the town still has signs that read "Welcome to, the World's First Dot-com City." "It was a good experience," said Mayor Marvin Burgraff, who served as mayor after the decision had already been approved. "It was kind of fun. You look back on it and it's good thoughts."

    In an age of pervasive advertising that many people try to ignore, such stunts are a good way to grab the public's attention, said Mark Hughes, chief executive of Buzzmarketing and the former executive who devised the Oregon deal. "Word of mouth is the most powerful form of communication and marketing out there," Hughes said in a telephone interview from Santa, Idaho, where he's leading the effort to rename that town, after a gift-exchange Web site. "No one's going to talk about the 3,000th Web site that launched this week," Hughes said. "What this does is give people a reason to talk."

    Still, some offers of corporate interest have backfired. In 2003, residents of Biggs, Calif., overwhelmingly rejected a California Milk Processor Board proposal to rename the city of 1,800 Got Milk? in exchange for a milk museum and money for the school. "People's take on it was, 'This is just an advertising ploy by the milk board.' There was a certain segment of population that wanted to tar and feather the mayor for even suggesting it," city clerk Marlee Mattos said.

    Gary Ruskin, of the nonprofit Commercial Alert, said towns should provide services such as trash collection and education, not "hawk television at its residents," he said. "The names of our civic places reflect our values and our aspirations," Ruskin said. "It's wrong to sever the link between civic names and civic virtue."

    But Merritt, mayor of the town now called DISH, said work had already begun to change the town's dozen street signs. He doesn't see the new name ever going out of favor. "I can't see right now that people would want to change it," he said. "Clark will always be a part of our history, but this is our new identity."

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 17 Nov 05 - 12:53 PM

    Cheap Laptops Are Planned for Kids
    Cheap Laptop With Wireless Network Access and Hand-Crank to Provide Electricity Are Planned for Children

    TUNIS, Tunisia - A cheap laptop boasting wireless network access and a hand-crank to provide electricity is expected to start shipping in February or March to help extend technology to school-aged children worldwide. The machines are to sell for $100, slightly less than its cost. The aim is to have governments or donors buy them and give full ownership to the children.

    "These robust, versatile machines will enable children to become more active in their own learning," U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan told reporters. Annan and more than 23,000 people from 176 countries were attending the three-day U.N. World Summit on the Information Society, in its second day Thursday.

    Although discussions about persisting U.S. control over the Internet's addressing system have consumed much of summit, its original aim was to find ways to extend communications technologies to the world's poorest through projects like the $100 laptop. MIT Media Lab chairman Nicholas Negroponte, who unveiled the textbook-sized laptop on Wednesday, said he expects to sell 1 million of them to Brazil, Thailand, Egypt and Nigeria.

    Negroponte did not say who would build the machine, which will cost $110 to make, but at least five companies are considering bids to do so. He said a commercial version may be available at a higher price to subsidize machines provided to children. The laptop will run on an open-source operating system, such as Linux, which is generally cheaper than proprietary systems such as Microsoft Corp.'s Windows, said Negroponte.

    The devices will be lime green in color, with a yellow hand crank, to make them appealing to children and to fend off potential thieves people would know by the color that the laptop is meant for a kid. Also at the summit, Microsoft unveiled a new network of learning centers in Tunisia to train people to be teachers in technology. Jean-Phillippe Courtois, president of Microsoft International, said the company would replicate the centers elsewhere as part of its outreach efforts.

    Addressing delegates on Thursday, Pakistani diplomat Masood Khan said increasing access to communications can help improve relations between regions and religions. "Information is not just an economic tool," Kahn told delegates in the main hall. "We need its infinite power to combat the rising tide of prejudice and hatred."

    Senegal's president, Abdoulaye Wade, said more time and effort was needed to help address the digital divide, but stressed that Africa in particular should do more for itself by providing education and jobs. "The computer specialists we train in Senegal, the English and the French come in and take them back to France and America," he told reporters. "We need to keep them with us."

    The summit was engrossed in some controversy after Reporters Without Borders said its secretary-general, Robert Menard, was denied entry into the country after his flight landed at the airport in the capital. The Paris-based group, among the chief critics of Tunisia's stance on speech and human rights, said Tunisian police officers and other officials boarded the Air France flight that Menard was on and said he could not enter the country to attend the summit. Francine Lambert, a spokeswoman for the summit, said Menard was issued credentials but was held back because of outstanding criminal complaint against him by Tunisia.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 17 Nov 05 - 03:09 PM

    Ah! A new word!


    November 17, 2005

    Woodward Feels Heat ? Times Runs Amok?

    It's clear today that Bob Woodward's involvement in the CIA leak case ? and his decision not to reveal that involvement for more than two years ? is now, officially, the latest Big Journalism Scandal. Woodward's behavior is reminding some of another such scandal, the one involving former New York Times reporter Judith Miller: "There are a number of ingredients in this unsavory stew that weirdly echo the Judith Miller imbroglio," wrote Rem Rieder in The American Journalism Review.

    When we came into work this morning, we couldn't help but wonder: How would the Times cover the story? Would there be hints of Schadenfreude in their coverage? (FYI: scha?den?freu?de: Noun. German. "Pleasure derived from the misfortunes of others.") Would the Times revel in the fact that the wrath of media critics is suddenly shifting elsewhere? Would the paper try to cast Woodward in the worst possible light ? and in the process help people forget a little more quickly about their dear departed "Ms. Run Amok?"

    long story, and one that I'll have to go read some more sources to see what it's all about. But interesting.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 17 Nov 05 - 03:09 PM

    Me again. . .

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Don Firth
    Date: 17 Nov 05 - 03:15 PM

    Damn! A few weeks back I heard a word that was defined as "suddenly feeling guilty because of your schadenfreude," but I can't remember it now!

    Anybody heard it?

    Don Firth

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 17 Nov 05 - 03:16 PM

    The San Francisco Chronicle has covered it.

    Ah! Details!

    Woodward's disclosure could aid Libby
    Reporter's testimony on Monday adds new wrinkle to CIA leak investigation

    Thursday, November 17, 2005

    Washington -- The revelation that the Washington Post's Bob Woodward may have been the first reporter to learn about CIA operative Valerie Wilson could provide a boost to the only person indicted in the leak case: Lewis "Scooter" Libby.

    Legal experts said Woodward had provided two pieces of new information that cast at least a shadow of doubt on the public case against Libby, Vice President Dick Cheney's former chief of staff, who has been indicted on perjury and obstruction of justice charges.

    Woodward testified Monday that contrary to Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald's public statements, a senior government official -- not Libby -- had been the first Bush administration official to tell a reporter about Wilson and her role at the CIA. Woodward also said that Libby had never mentioned Wilson, also known as Valerie Plame, in conversations they had on June 23 and June 27, 2003, about the Iraq war, a time when the indictment alleges Libby was eagerly passing information about Wilson to reporters and colleagues.

    While neither statement appears to factually change Fitzgerald's contention that Libby lied and impeded the leak investigation, the Libby legal team plans to use Woodward's testimony to try to show that Libby was not obsessed with unmasking Wilson and to raise questions about the prosecutor's full understanding of events. Until now, few outside of Libby's legal team have challenged the facts and chronology of Fitzgerald's case.

    "I think it's a considerable boost to the defendant's case," said John Moustakas, a former federal prosecutor who has no role in the case. "It casts doubt about whether Fitzgerald knew everything as he charged someone with very serious offenses."

    According to the statement Woodward released Tuesday, he did not appear to provide any testimony that goes specifically to the question of whether Libby is guilty of two counts of perjury, two counts of providing false statements and obstructing justice. The indictment outlines what many legal experts describe as a very strong case against Libby, because it shows the former Cheney aide learned about Wilson from at least four government sources, including the vice president -- and not a reporter, as he testified before the grand jury.

    Randall Eliason, former head of the public corruption unit for the U.S. attorney's office in Washington D.C., said he doubted the Woodward account would have much effect on Libby's case and dismissed such theories as "defense spin."

    "Libby was not charged with being the first to talk to a reporter, and that is not part of the indictment," he said. "Whether or not some other officials were talking to Woodward doesn't really tell us anything about the central issue in Libby's case: What was his state of mind and intent when he was talking to the FBI and testifying in the grand jury?"

    Eliason added: "What this does suggest, though, is that the investigation is still very active. Hard to see how that is good news for (White House Deputy Chief of Staff Karl) Rove or for anyone else in the prosecutor's crosshairs."

    Mark Corallo, a spokesman for Rove's legal team, said Rove was not the official who had talked to Woodward. Rove was referred to, but not by name, in Libby's indictment as having discussed Wilson's identity with reporters.

    Since December 2003, Fitzgerald has been probing whether senior Bush administration officials illegally leaked classified information -- Wilson's identity as a CIA operative -- to reporters to discredit allegations made by her husband, former ambassador Joseph Wilson. Robert Novak revealed Valerie Wilson's identity in a July 14, 2003, column, eight days after her husband publicly accused the administration of twisting intelligence to justify the Iraq war. Rove is still under investigation.

    Libby's attorneys have asked whether Fitzgerald will correct his statement that Libby was the first administration official to leak information about Wilson to a reporter. Fitzgerald's spokesman, Randall Samborn, declined to comment. At a news conference Oct. 28, Fitzgerald specifically said that Libby was the "first official known" at that time to have provided such information to a reporter.

    The White House declined to comment.

    In October 2003, President Bush pledged cooperation with the investigation, and investigators requested and subpoenaed all records of contacts with reporters.

    Chronicle news services contributed to this report.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Amos
    Date: 17 Nov 05 - 03:34 PM

    Actually a search for threads which include the word turns up the following:

    The Forum Results (1 to 17 of 17)

    0.7742 - Thread - Message - RE: BS: La France: Oui ou Non? - Jun 3 2005 8:10AM -   robomatic
    Summary: Yeah, I've been dropping in on forums which are opposite polarity to this one and they've been saying "Vive La France!" as well, but I think it's mainly schadenfreude.

    0.7742 - Thread - Message - RE: BS: Anti-Depressants / Getting off of - Mar 31 2005 11:35PM -   harpgirl
    Summary: If it were prosocial it would reflect empathy. You specifically need to develop some empathy. It is imperative that you study empathy and begin to attain some.

    0.7742 - Thread - Message - RE: BS: They sure breed them young - Mar 14 2005 11:43PM -   robomatic
    Summary: ard mhaca: how do you say "Schadenfreude" in gaelic?

    0.7742 - Thread - Message - RE: BS: HRH Prince Charles is homosexual ! - Nov 10 2003 2:34AM -   alanabit
    Summary: Royalty isn't really the issue Mike. I am a republican (in the UK sense of the word). I respect everyone's right to privacy in their private life whether it's pop stars, film stars, politicians or the man who serves me a pint in the pub.

    0.7742 - Thread - Message - RE: BS: German politician dies parachuting - Jun 7 2003 4:17PM -   alanabit
    Summary: He always seemed something of an attention seeker to me. He was definitely a troubled man. However, if only for the sake of his family, any sense of Schadenfreude which I might have felt at his fall (whether you take that physically or metaphorically) has long since been put aside.

    0.7742 - Thread - Message - RE: BS: Famous exit lines - May 8 2003 2:42PM -   John 'Giok' MacKenzie
    Summary: Touch of schadenfreude there Gareth. Remember what BH Calcutta [Failed] said in The Perishers. "It are wicked to mock the afflicted" Giok

    0.7742 - Thread - Message - RE: BS: The FLAGRANT Lady Mary - Sep 30 2002 3:08PM -   Gervase
    Summary: Ah, the Lavender List - those of us who grew up in the Sixties always knew tht Marcia Forkbender was servicing "Our 'Arold", but it's nice to see it confirmed! Given that the major imperatives in life are food, shelter and reproduction, the shagging bit features fairly prominenty in the political process. Obviously life would be more serene if we could adopt the French sang froidabout mistresses and the like, but as cold-blooded Anglo-Saxons we just have to get our rocks off ...

    0.7742 - Thread - Message - RE: Lyr Add: Melborn and Sydeny - Sep 23 2002 10:37PM -   John in Brisbane
    Summary: I remember the song as if it was yesterday - but I realized this morning that I don't know the name of my Federal Member. I was asked a lot of years ago to participate in a recording project of Stephen Foster songs with PC references to 'darkie' etc removed. I refused - and for the same reasons I'll probably keep the original lyrics of this song intact.

    0.7742 - Thread - Message - RE: Corgi Missing, Where's Ozzie? Big 50th! - Jun 4 2002 1:04PM -   Peter K (Fionn)
    Summary: I believe Kermit came and went all through the show (most of which I didn't see, because unbeknown to you N Americans the World Cup is underway). I did catch Tom Jones's glance of unease, but it was a fleeting thrill against the schadenfreude that swamped me when Parkinson met Rod Hull and Emu. The revelry has continued today on yet grander scale - some 5,000 gospel-singers under the direction of Pattie Boulaye, and several more thousand Chicken Shed kids have just gone down the Mall in a ...

    0.7742 - Thread - Message - RE: BS: Thatcher speaks no more - Mar 23 2002 3:42AM -   Lanfranc
    Summary: I, too, was struck with a wave of schadenfreude when I heard the news. Dubya is as bad, if not worse, than Thatcher - reactionary, bellicose, ignorant, etc. Just because he can't string two coherent sentences together doesn't mean that he's not dangerous! Dubya is, frankly, bloody terrifying, as far as I'm concerned, and, thanks to Blur, we're supposed to be on his side.

    0.7742 - Thread - Message - RE: SONG CHALLENGE! Part 45 - Sep 5 2001 8:26AM -   Aidan Crossey
    Summary: br> THE WRECK ON HIGHWAY 38 Who did you say it was, brother? When you heard the crash on the highway, Did you hear anyone pray? CHORUS I didn't hear nobody pray, dear brother I didn't hear nobody pray A shot, then the truck left the highway But I didn't hear nobody pray We thought we was clever in using The slug from my old twenty-two To fix up the lights on my pick-up But it was the worst thing we could do CHORUS<...

    0.7742 - Thread - Message - RE: BS: Archer jailed for perjury - Jul 19 2001 12:09PM -   Gervase
    Summary: It's made my day! Who'd have thought that Schadenfreude could be quite such fun!!!!! For those who want to know more, click here.

    0.7742 - Thread - Message - RE: BS: USA - Socialist Utopia? - Apr 3 2001 10:14AM -   Wolfgang
    Summary: Yes, Ed, 'damage joy' it is verbatim, meaning 'joy about another person's damage'. We even have a tongue-in cheek proverbial saying Schadenfreude ist die reinste Freude (damage joy is the purest joy). Wolfgang

    0.7742 - Thread - Message - RE: BS: USA - Socialist Utopia? - Apr 3 2001 9:32AM -   Wolfgang
    Summary: Schadenfreude

    0.7742 - Thread - Message - RE: BS: There's no word for it... - Jun 5 2000 12:58PM -   Grab
    Summary: If a word in one language doesn't exist in another, it soon gets borrowed. English has loads of French words and phrases ("camoflage", "joie de vivre", "esprit de corps") which have come in wholesale. Equally, French has acquired "le weekend", "le football" and so on.

    0.7742 - Thread - Message - RE: INFO REQ: New St. George/Richard Thompson - Sep 24 1997 11:31PM -   NonMember
    Summary: Nope, Mr. Thompson isn't nasty, nor did I mean to imply it. I am reminded of the response of Samuel Johnson, English savant and compiler of the first modern English dictionary, when a woman asked him why he had erroneously defined the word "pastern" as "the knee of a horse" in his dictionary. "Ignorance, Madam; pure ignorance," was his reply.

    0.7742 - Thread - Message - RE: INFO REQ: New St. George/Richard Thompson - Sep 5 1997 4:39PM -   NonMember
    Summary: Somehow, I think your "noose of joy" interpretation would wring a fine bittersweet grin or wry chuckle from Richard Thompson, given his affection for lyrics brimming with schadenfreude*. I for one certainly enjoyed it! *A wonderful German oxymoron, literally translated as "sad joy".

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 17 Nov 05 - 04:38 PM

    Well Amos, it was obviously a new word to ME! Of course I don't expect that it has never been used here before. Mudcatters are one articulate group! ;-)

    But this is news! I went through botany classes learning that grasses rose after the dinosaurs disappeared, but clearly it is a fragile substance so fossil evidence would be difficult in forming.

    Dinosaurs May Have Eaten Grass

    November 17, 2005

    WASHINGTON - Imagine dinosaur terrain - full of ferns and palms, right? Better add some grass to that picture. A new discovery debunks the theory that grasses didn't emerge until long after the dinosaurs died off. Fossilized dung tells the story: The most prominent plant-eating dinosaurs were digesting different varieties of grass between 65 million and 71 million years ago, researchers report Friday in the journal Science. The earliest grass fossils ever found were about 55 million years old - from the post-dinosaur era.

    It's a big surprise for scientists, who had never really looked for evidence of grass in dino diets before. After all, grass fossils aside, those sauropods - the behemoths with the long necks and tails and small heads - didn't have the special kind of teeth needed to grind up abrasive blades. "Most people would not have fathomed that they would eat grasses," noted lead researcher Caroline Stromberg of the Swedish Museum of Natural History. Stromberg and a team of paleobotanists from India analyzed sauropod dung - the scientific term is coprolites - found in central India.

    The coprolites contained microscopic particles of silica called phytoliths, which form inside plant cells in distinctive patterns that essentially act as a signature. Amid the expected plants were numerous phytoliths certain to have come from the grass family, report Stromberg and Vandana Prasad of India's Birbal Sahni Institute of Palaeobotany. They included relatives of rice and bamboo and forage-type grasses.

    They didn't eat a lot of grass, the evidence shows. But grasses must have originated considerably earlier, well over 80 million years ago, for such a wide variety to have evolved and spread to the Indian subcontinent in time to be munched by sauropods, they concluded.

    "These remarkable results will force reconsideration of many long-standing assumptions" about dinosaur ecology, wrote Dolores Piperno and Hans-Dieter Sues of the Smithsonian Institution's National Museum of Natural History in an accompanying review. Beyond the great curiosity about dinosaur life, the discovery has implications about the coevolution of this huge plant family - there are about 10,000 separate grass species - with other plant-eaters, Piperno explained.

    Indeed, a mysterious early mammal that roamed among the dinosaurs had more suitable teeth for grazing, raising the possibility of an early adaptation, the researchers note.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 26 Nov 05 - 11:10 AM

    Lottery Winner Dead for Days Before Found
    November 26, 2005

    NEWPORT, Ky. - A woman who won a $65.4 million Powerball jackpot with her husband five years ago was found dead at her home overlooking the Ohio River. Police said she had been dead for days before anyone found her. Virginia Metcalf Merida's son found her dead Wednesday. Campbell County Police are awaiting autopsy results and toxicology results before announcing a cause of death. Investigators said there was no sign of forced entry at the 5,000-square-foot, custom-built geodesic dome house that Merida, 51, bought for $559,000 in 2000.

    Her husband, Mack Wayne Metcalf, died in 2003 at age 45 while living in a replica of George Washington's Mount Vernon estate built in Corbin. His death followed multiple run-ins with the law in the days following the lottery win. When they won the jackpot, the couple refused dozens of interview requests but told lottery officials they were going separate ways to fulfill lifelong dreams. Merida was quitting her job making corrugated boxes and planned to buy a home. Metcalf, a forklift operator, wanted to start a new life in Australia.

    The couple split the winnings of the $3 ticket bought at a Florence truck stop and opted to take a $34.1 million lump sum instead of annual installments. Merida took 40 percent, or $13.6 million, while Metcalf moved to Corbin with the remaining $20.5 million. Neighbors said Merida shunned attention successfully until last December, when a body was found in her home. Campbell County Deputy Coroner Al Garnick confirmed that a man died of a drug overdose at the home, but he couldn't recall the person's name. Official records were unavailable because of the Thanksgiving holiday weekend.

    Merida had used part of her winnings to buy a second home, but when she tried to evict the resident of the home, the renter sued her in Hamilton County (Ohio) Common Pleas Court. A hearing in the case is scheduled for Wednesday. Carol Terrell Lawson, who is still renting the home, said Thursday that she never met Merida in person and only learned of the death after reporters began calling her.

    David Huff, who bought the Mount Vernon look-alike home from Metcalf's estate, said Metcalf died of multiple ailments complicated by alcoholism. "It was a classic case of a person who never had anything and didn't know how to handle it," Huff said. "I think things went from bad to worse when he got the money."

    After winning the jackpot, Metcalf was first ordered to pay $31,000 in back child support. Court workers in Kenton County said at the time that he was behind in support payments for his daughter from his first marriage since 1986. A judge ordered him to establish an $800,000 trust fund to take care of his daughter's future needs.

    A month after winning the lottery win, a Boone County judge issued a warrant for Metcalf's arrest after he failed to appear in court on a drunken driving charge. It turned out that Metcalf had crashed into several parked cars while driving drunk through a mall parking lot a month before he won the lottery.

    Metcalf eventually served four days on the DUI conviction but not before he was fined for causing a bar brawl in Florence. He also sued to reclaim $500,000 that he allegedly gave to a woman while he was drunk. Court records were unavailable Thursday to determine the outcome of that case.

    Metcalf saw the Corbin home he eventually bought and liked it so much that he made an offer. He asked the owner what it would take to buy the home, complete with all the furnishings, and then handed over the asking price, The Cincinnati Enquirer reported Saturday.

    The lawyer, Robert Hammons, who still lives in Corbin, declined Thursday to say what he got for the home. The 4,000-square-foot residence estate is on 43 acres, with an outdoor pool and a metal building that would eventually house Metcalf's dozen classic cars. "It is really a bizarre story," Huff said. "Sad, when you think about it. He had a real hard life. I'm sure there are a lot of things that went wrong in his past that no one knows about."

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Jim Dixon
    Date: 15 Dec 05 - 03:18 PM


    From The Wall Street Journal, Thursday, December 15, 2005
    U.S. women seek a second first time with hymen surgery

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 24 Dec 05 - 10:21 AM

    Whoa, just read that hymen repair article. What a silly procedure to go through.

    And now for something completely different:

    Wis. Dog Frozen to Railroad Tracks Rescued
    December 24, 2005

    CHIPPEWA FALLS, Wis. - He's missing a lot of hair, but a Siberian husky has a new name and a new life, thanks to a construction worker and police officer who rescued him from a railroad track minutes before a train arrived.

    Jeremy Majorowicz thought it was a little strange that the dog had been sitting on the track for an hour-and-a-half in the cold, and stranger still that he wouldn't accept a bite of muffin. "I have two dogs myself, so I didn't want to leave the dog if there was something wrong," Majorowicz said, so he called police.

    Officer Tim Strand said the dog was "shivering unmercifully" when he arrived Monday and would not come to him, so he called animal control officer Al Heyde, who also couldn't get the dog to budge. "I lifted his tail and hind quarters, and saw he was literally frozen to the tracks," Strand said.

    Strand pulled hard on the dog's tail and was able to release him, but the dog lost a lot of hair. "He gave a heck of a whelp," he said. Just 10 minutes later, a train came down the track.

    "If the dog would have seen that train I'm afraid it would have been the end of the pupster," Strand said. The dog was taken to the Chippewa County Humane Association, where workers named him "Ice Train."

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Ebbie
    Date: 27 Dec 05 - 08:15 PM


    Sage, that's the story I was going to post when I refreshed this thread. I read it online yesterday and it had me guffawing. I was on the phone with a long distance call at the time and my reaction merited some explaining.

    Did you notice the typo in the fourth paragraph?

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 27 Dec 05 - 10:40 PM

    That's their typo, I just cut and pasted it. Perhaps there was a pup left on the track after this transaction?

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Ebbie
    Date: 27 Dec 05 - 11:49 PM

    Heavens. I am aware that it is their typo.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 28 Dec 05 - 12:03 AM

    So you didn't think I was typing each of these stories in by hand? We're so spoiled today--there have been lots of times in the past when I had to do just that.


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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Ebbie
    Date: 28 Dec 05 - 12:24 AM

    OK, den. :)

    My guess is that someone phoned in a story and the person on the other end typed in what he/she thought the reporter said. It just struck me as very funny. That whelping - male - dog was mighty cold and confused.

    A songwriter friend of mine wrote 'limpets' in a tidepools song; her transcriber printed it as 'lipids'. Would be funny if it weren't so durn stoopid.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 28 Dec 05 - 09:10 AM

    One could easily dedicate an entire thread to the goofy typos found in published documents. These are not to be confused with whatever the mistakes are that GW Bush comes up with. Talk-Os? Misspokes? Brain Farts?

    Maybe Jay Leno will receive a copy of the dog on the tracks story. It is the kind of mistake he relishes for his Headlines feature on Mondays.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Amos
    Date: 28 Dec 05 - 09:44 AM

    Mister Bush's production of brain farts is legendary both forquality and for volume. His handlers tremble every time he has an unscripted mouth-opening event. You gotta wonder whaty his brain is made of, to produce so many.



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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 28 Dec 05 - 11:16 AM

    Whoa! Adjust that aluminum foil helmet!

    Restraining order against Letterman tossed

    SANTA FE, N.M. - A state judge has lifted a restraining order granted to a Santa Fe woman who accused talk-show host David Letterman of using coded words to show that he wanted to marry her and train her as his co-host. Judge Daniel Sanchez on Tuesday granted a request by lawyers for Letterman, host of CBS' "Late Show," to quash the temporary restraining order that he earlier granted to Colleen Nestler.

    She alleged in a request filed Dec. 15 that Letterman has forced her to go bankrupt and caused her "mental cruelty" and "sleep deprivation" since May 1994. Nestler requested that Letterman, who tapes his show in New York, stay at least 3 yards away and not "think of me, and release me from his mental harassment and hammering."

    Lawyers for Letterman contended the order was without merit. "He is entitled to a protection of his legal rights and a protection of his reputation," Pat Rogers, an Albuquerque lawyer representing Letterman, told the judge Tuesday. The New Mexico court doesn't have jurisdiction over Letterman, who is a resident of Connecticut, Rogers said.

    Nestler appeared in court without a lawyer and represented herself. Responding to a question from the judge, Nestler said she had no proof of the allegations she had made against Letterman. She also said that if Letterman or any of his representatives came near her, "I will break their legs" and establish proof of her allegations. Nestler said after the court hearing that "I have achieved my purpose. The public knows that this man cannot come near me." She also said that her comment about breaking legs "is not a threat."

    "I appealed to the court for a restraining order to keep this man away from me, but now that's been denied me," she said. "He has access to me. He can actually come for me or send people. He has many accomplices. I know this sounds crazy. I was crazy to have listened to him in the beginning."

    Nestler's application for a restraining order was accompanied by a six-page typed letter in which she said Letterman used code words, gestures and "eye expressions" to convey his desires for her. She wrote that she began sending Letterman "thoughts of love" after his show began in 1993, and that he responded in code words and gestures, asking her to come East. Nestler said Letterman asked her to be his wife during a televised "teaser" for his show by saying, "Marry me, Oprah." Her letter said Oprah was the first of many code names for her and that the coded vocabulary increased and changed with time.

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    From: Charley Noble
    Date: 28 Dec 05 - 12:30 PM

    Makes sense to me. I can't figure out why the judge wouldn't make permanent the restraining order. What's the world coming to?

    Charley Noble, safe in Maine

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    From: Amos
    Date: 28 Dec 05 - 12:39 PM

    Easy for you to say, Charlie. Wait until some female talk-show host starts sending YOU code-words and eye-gestures. See how much sleep YOU get!!


    And there's no doubt about it
    It was a myth of fingerprints
    I've seen them all, and man,
    They're all the same....

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    From: Amos
    Date: 28 Dec 05 - 12:50 PM

    In other news, the overly zealous are now decreeing that young women should be denied a preventative for cervical cancer, which targets the HPV virus, because the virus is sexually transmitted and they deserve what they get for not obeying the arbitrary moralistic meddling muddy-minded mandates of the not-very-bright.

    Full story here.

    I spit.


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    From: Acme
    Date: 28 Dec 05 - 01:30 PM

    Makes you wonder if any of them manage to keep their children alive until adulthood.

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    From: The Fooles Troupe
    Date: 29 Dec 05 - 08:35 AM

    "Nestler's application for a restraining order was accompanied by a six-page typed letter in which she said Letterman used code words, gestures and "eye expressions" to convey his desires for..."

    There's some vacancies on School boards coming up I hear.

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    From: Acme
    Date: 02 Jan 06 - 08:11 AM

    Too bad these jeans are only in a "punk" style!
    Young, trendy Swedes think devilish jeans are heaven-sent
    By Karl Ritter

    January 1, 2006

    STOCKHOLM -- A punk-rock style, trendy tight fit and affordable price have made Cheap Monday jeans a hot commodity among young Swedes, but what has people talking is the brand's ungodly logo: a skull with a cross turned upside down on its forehead. The jeans' makers say it's more of a joke, but the logo's designer said there's a deeper message. "It is an active statement against Christianity," Bjorn Atldax said. "I'm not a Satanist myself but I have a great dislike for organized religion."

    Atldax insists he has a purpose beyond selling denim: to make young people question Christianity, which he called a "force of evil" that had sparked wars throughout history. Such a remark might incite outrage or prompt retailers to drop the brand in more religious countries. But not in Sweden, a secular nation that cherishes its free speech and where churchgoing has been declining for decades.

    Cheap Mondays are flying off the shelves at $50 a pair. The jeans have also been shipped throughout Europe and to Australia, and there are plans to introduce them to the United States and elsewhere. The jeans' makers say about 200,000 pairs have been sold since March 2004 -- and note they have received few complaints about the grinning skull and upside-down cross, a symbol often associated with satanic worship.

    Even the country's largest church, the Lutheran Church of Sweden, reacts with a shrug. "I don't think it's much to be horrified about," said Bo Larsson, director of the church's Department of Education, Research and Culture. "It is abundantly clear that this designer wants to create public opinion against the Christian faith . . . but I believe that the way to deal with this is to start a discussion about what religion means."

    Other Christians, however, are calling for a tougher stance against the jeans. "One cannot just keep quiet about this," said Rev. Karl-Erik Nylund, vicar of St. Mary Magdalene Church in Stockholm. "This is a deliberate provocation [against Christians], and I object to that." Nylund said Swedish companies don't treat Christianity with the same respect that they afford other religions. "No one wants to provoke Jews or Muslims, but it's totally OK to provoke Christians," he said.

    Some buyers have ripped off the logo from the back of the pants or even returned the jeans once they realized what the symbol means. But such cases are very few, according to the brand's creator, Orjan Andersson, who said he doesn't take the logo too seriously. "I'm not interested in religion," he said. "I'm more interested in that the logo looks good."

    Henrik Petersson, 26, said he picked up his first pair of Cheap Mondays a few months after they were launched because he liked their punk-rocker style and the logo caught his eye. "I think it's a cool thing. It stands out from the rest," he said. "I haven't really reflected over whether there is an underlying message."

    Martin Sundberg, a 32-year-old co-owner of a clothing store in Stockholm's trendy SoFo district, said people shouldn't get upset over the jeans. "It's just supposed to be a bit of fun, some kind of anti-culture," he said.

    The jeans are selling in Norway, Denmark, Britain, the Netherlands and France. Andersson, the brand's owner, hopes to tap the lucrative U.S. market soon and said he isn't worried the logo will hurt sales. "Surely, most people understand that we are not evil people," he said. "My mom doesn't think so, at least."

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    From: Acme
    Date: 03 Jan 06 - 09:09 AM

    This story caught my eye for a couple of reasons. I was contemplating moving to ABQ about the time the crash in this story happened, and I remember reading about the impassioned trial. But the clincher in this one comes down near the bottom of the story, with a bit of irony.

    N.M. Man Loses Home in Holiday Tragedy
    January 03, 2006

    ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. - Paul Cravens tries to remain positive after suffering tragic personal loss during the holidays not once in his life, but twice. A fire just three days after Christmas destroyed his home - 13 years after his wife and her three daughters were killed in a Christmas Eve car crash involving a drunk driver. "I concentrate on all the good times we had together and know that God has something better in store for us," Cravens said. Flames on Wednesday gutted his home in Tijeras, just east of Albuquerque.

    On Christmas Eve 1992, Cravens and his family were traveling on Interstate 40 when a man who admitted drinking more than seven beers that day drove a pickup truck the wrong way and collided head-on with the family's vehicle. Cravens' wife, Melanie Cravens, and her daughters - Kandyce, 9, Erin, 8 and Kacee Woodard, 5 - were killed. Gordon House of Thoreau was convicted in 1995 of four counts of vehicular homicide and other charges and is serving a 22-year prison sentence.

    Paul Cravens survived the crash but was injured and did not learn about his family's deaths until New Year's Day 1993, which would have been Melanie's 33rd birthday. The couple would have celebrated their third wedding anniversary three days later. "After the fourth, we almost take another breath and begin to live again," said Melanie's mother, Nadine Milford, who has become a leading crusader against drunken driving in New Mexico since the crash.

    An electrical short in the ceiling sparked a blaze Wednesday at Cravens' home. He was outside working at about 9:30 p.m. when he saw smoke in the house. He grabbed a fire extinguisher and a ladder, but it was too late. "Pretty much everything is going to be a loss," he said. He was able to save the photos of his wife and the girls, along with notes for his master's thesis in electrical engineering, a laptop computer and a few other things.

    Cravens said that while he was recovering from injuries he suffered in the car crash years earlier, thieves broke into the family's Albuquerque home and stole Christmas presents and clothes. He fears the same thing will happen this time, so he plans to stay in a trailer until he rebuilds on the same property.

    Cravens said there are nights when he misses his wife and the girls, but the support of his family keeps him going. He was depressed for many years after the accident and said the holidays are particularly difficult. "You can spend a lot of time thinking and being depressed, but there's nothing you can do to change what happened," he said. "You just have to anticipate that something better is coming down the road."

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    From: GUEST,Joe_F
    Date: 03 Jan 06 - 08:31 PM

    From the Boston _Globe_, 29 August 1995 (I still don't know whether to believe it):

    Alligator became a hunter of hunt dogs

    Baying of hounds rang dinner bell


    PENSACOLA, Fla. -- Rufus Godwin learned the fate of his missing hunting dog Flojo when a 500-pound alligator coughed up the animal's electronic tracking collar.

    In the animal, trappers found tags and collars of six more hounds.

    For the past 20 years, hunting dogs have been disappearing in the Blackwater River State Forest.[...]

    Godwin had set loose Flojo, a $5,000 Walker fox-hunting hound, in the forest about 45 miles northeast of Pensacola. The last he heard of her was her baying on the chase.

    He was searching for her with her electronic collar tracking device when he caught a faint signal. Jamie Sauls, with Godwin, also got signals from the collar of a dog he had lost weeks earlier.

    "When we walked up to this hole, just all of a sudden the boxes went to beeping out of sight. They just went wide open," Godwin said[...].

    The 10-foot, 11-inch reptile was captured Aug. 15 by state-contracted alligator hunters.

    Four men harpooned the beast, taped its mouth shut and wrestled it until they had the animal hogtied. During the struggle the alligator spit up Flojo's $125 tracking collar.

    In the alligator's stomach, the trappers found a collection of dog collars. One was from a dog belonging to Aden Fleming that disappeared 14 years ago.

    The alligator was estimated to be 50 years old.

    --- Joe Fineman

    ||: "God wills it" gives the wrong kind of comfort to count as an explanation. :||

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 03 Jan 06 - 08:50 PM

    I remember reading this some time ago. A search of Urban Legends at Snopes and doesn't turn up even a mention.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 06 Jan 06 - 01:15 PM

    This is a continuation of a story that I read about over a year ago. I don't think I posted any of it here, but there is a troubling element in this investigation that few will have difficulty recognising.

    Deadly I-5 crash results in a fine
    A Bellevue woman receives a ticket, but is not criminally charged in a 2004 wreck near Marysville.


    MARYSVILLE - More than a year after Juliann Odom crossed the median on I-5 near Marysville and slammed into a Chevrolet Suburban, killing a Bothell woman, police have cited her for second-degree negligent driving. Odom, 23, was issued a traffic ticket Dec. 8 in Cascade District Court in Arlington. The Bellevue woman paid the $538 fine a couple of weeks later.

    No criminal charges have been filed against Odom in connection with the Dec. 15, 2004, crash that killed Megan Holschen, 18, and severely injured her mother and younger sister. Washington State Patrol investigators spent months piecing together the events of the fiery crash, compiling hundreds of pages of documents, pictures and diagrams. But detectives haven't been able to pinpoint why Odom lost control of her Ford Explorer. "Our opinion is operator error caused the crash. Why she lost control? That's a question I can't answer," said Sgt. Jerry Cooper with the State Patrol's major accident investigation team.

    Odom has refused to speak with investigators.

    Detectives believe Odom was southbound in the right lane when she drove onto the shoulder, veered left, crossed three lanes of traffic and plowed through the cable barrier. Odom's vehicle vaulted out of the median, taking two cable strands with it into the northbound lanes, according to court records. Her Ford Explorer landed on the Holschens' Suburban. Megan Holschen, who was riding in the passenger seat, was killed instantly.

    Investigators have ruled out mechanical problems with Odom's vehicle, and also any road conditions that would have caused her to lose control. Detectives didn't find any evidence that Odom was intoxicated or under the influence of drugs, Cooper said. Investigators also concluded that Odom wasn't speeding excessively.

    Detectives explored additional theories about why Odom veered into oncoming traffic, and have sought her medical records to try to make a determination. Odom has declined to provide those records because "they are private," her attorney, Nick Scarpelli, said Thursday.

    Snohomish County prosecutors initiated a special closed-door hearing to ask a judge to release the medical documents. A judge agreed that some of the records could be made public, but Odom's attorney appealed the decision. The state Supreme Court is expected to review the appeal sometime this month. Investigators don't know what, if anything, they'll find in those records, but wanted them as another attempt to look at why Odom lost control, Cooper said.

    "We want to close all doors. Questions were brought to us, and we needed to follow up on those," he said. Investigators will review the medical records if Odom is eventually forced to provide them. Criminal charges against her have not been ruled out.

    "The issuance of a civil infraction doesn't preclude us from later filing criminal charges if we receive a referral and there is adequate evidence to support criminal charges," said Joan Cavagnaro, the county's chief criminal deputy prosecutor.

    John Holschen said he and his family hope the state will continue pursuing the facts. "If there is more to it than meets the eye, and if this young lady needs help and the public needs protection from this behavior in the future," it's important to get answers, he said.

    His wife and daughter, Jolie, continue to recover from their injuries and expect to undergo additional surgeries in the coming months. "It's proven to be a very long road," Holschen said.

    Odom is remorseful about the crash, Scarpelli said. He declined to comment about her recovery, saying only that she was seriously injured in the accident.

    The Seattle attorney said he doesn't know why Odom lost control of her vehicle, but pointed to the cable barriers. "Instead of being stopped by the cable barriers, she was allowed to go through," he said. "We contend that the cable barriers were defectively installed."

    A Herald analysis last summer found that the barriers failed to stop cars in the median 20 percent of the time on the stretch of I-5 where the accident happened. A state report on the cable barriers is expected within a few weeks.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Amos
    Date: 06 Jan 06 - 02:44 PM

    Seems to me the privacy of thos emedical records, which is usually of little public relevance, has suddenly become a barrier to genuine justice. If she was driving while, for example, having a known history of petit mal seizures, or blackouts, her negligence was homicidal in the actual event.


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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 06 Jan 06 - 09:36 PM

    It is clear she has something to hide.

    I remember reading about this dramatic accident. The van was filled with all but two members of this large family. It was a heroic effort to save the rest of the lives because of a vehicle fire nearby. Passersby were able to hook up the van and pull it way from a burning vehicle or other children would have perished as well.

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    From: Acme
    Date: 22 Jan 06 - 04:57 PM

    Now here is something that Dubya could have the troops do that would actually be helpful--solve some of the piracy problems in the Indian Ocean. Leave soverign nations alone.

    U.S. Navy Seizes Pirate Ship Off Somalia
    January 22, 2006

    DUBAI, United Arab Emirates - The U.S. Navy boarded an apparent pirate ship in the Indian Ocean and detained 26 men for questioning, the Navy said Sunday. The 16 Indians and 10 Somali men were aboard a traditional dhow that was chased and seized Saturday by the U.S. guided missile destroyer USS Winston S. Churchill, said Lt. Leslie Hull-Ryde of U.S. Naval Forces Central Command in Bahrain. The dhow stopped fleeing after the Churchill twice fired warning shots during the chase, which ended 54 miles off the coast of Somalia, the Navy said. U.S. sailors boarded the dhow and seized a cache of small arms.

    The dhow's crew and passengers were being questioned Sunday aboard the Churchill to determine which were pirates and which were legitimate crew members, Hull-Ryde said. Sailors aboard the dhow told Navy investigators that pirates hijacked the vessel six days ago near Mogadishu and thereafter used it to stage pirate attacks on merchant ships.

    The Churchill is part of a multinational task force patrolling the western Indian Ocean and Horn of Africa region to thwart terrorist activity and other lawlessness during the U.S.-led war in Iraq. The Navy said it captured the dhow in response to a report from the International Maritime Bureau in Kuala Lumpur on Friday that said pirates had fired on the MV Delta Ranger, a Bahamian-flagged bulk carrier that was passing some 200 miles off the central eastern coast of Somalia.

    Hull-Ryde said the Navy was still investigating the incident and would discuss with international authorities what to do with the detained men. "The disposition of people and vessels involved in acts of piracy on the high seas are based on a variety of factors, including the offense, the flags of the vessels, the nationalities of the crew, and others," Hull-Ryde said in an e-mail.

    Piracy is rampant off the coast of Somalia, which is torn by renewed clashes between militias fighting over control of the troubled African country. Many shipping companies resort to paying ransoms, saying they have few alternatives. Last month, Somali militiamen finally relinquished a merchant ship hijacked in October. In November, Somali pirates freed a Ukrainian ore carrier and its 22 member crew after holding it for 40 days. It was unclear whether a US$700,000 ransom demanded by the pirates had been paid.

    One of the boldest recent attacks was on Nov. 5, when two boats full of pirates approached a cruise ship carrying Western tourists, about 100 miles off Somalia and fired rocket-propelled grenades and assault rifles. The crew used a weapon that directs earsplitting noise at attackers, then sped away.

    Somalia has had no effective government since 1991, when warlords ousted a dictatorship and then turned on each other, carving the nation of 8.2 million into a patchwork of fiefdoms.

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Charley Noble
    Date: 22 Jan 06 - 05:22 PM

    You know, real pirates aren't nearly as much fun as the Disney versions.

    Charley Noble

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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 23 Jan 06 - 10:57 AM

    Don't tell Bush that and maybe he'd do something useful in spite of himself.

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    From: Amos
    Date: 23 Jan 06 - 12:43 PM

    I doubt he could pronounce Arrrgh.


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    Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
    From: Acme
    Date: 26 Jan 06 - 11:47 AM

    This is a very long, very well-researched article. It's one of those accounts that is so annoying, because there has been a steady trickle of people saying "something isn't right here" and they have been largely ignored by the mainstream publishing world. The fact that most of those ignored voices were Indians and scholars (Indian and otherwise) and that the story only makes news when told by a mainstream white (?) writer is a classic problem in American Indian literature scholarship.

    Here is a link to this very long piece. I'm running just the beginning of it here.

    Did a struggling white writer of gay erotica become one of multicultural literature's most celebrated memoirists ? by passing himself off as Native American?

    Wednesday, January 25, 2006

      "So achingly honest it takes your breath away."
      ?Miami Herald on The Boy and the Dog Are Sleeping

    In June of 1999 a writer calling himself Nasdijj emerged from obscurity to publish an ode to his adopted son in Esquire. "My son is dead," he began. "I didn't say my adopted son is dead. He was my son. My son was a Navajo. He lived six years. They were the best six years of my life."

    The boy's name was Tommy Nothing Fancy and Nasdijj wrote that he and his wife adopted Tommy as an infant and raised him in their home on the Navajo reservation. At first, Tommy seemed like a healthy baby, albeit one who consistently cried throughout the night. "The doctor at the Indian Health Service said it was nothing. Probably gas."

    But it wasn't gas. Tommy suffered from a severe case of fetal alcohol syndrome, or FAS. Though Tommy looked normal, his crying continued and as he grew older he began to suffer massive seizures. "I thought I could see him getting duller with every seizure. He knew he was slowly dying."

    Nasdijj knew too, and he tried to give his son as full a life as time would allow. Fishing was Tommy's favorite thing to do and they went often ? sometimes at the expense of his medical care. "For my son hospitals were analogous to torture. Tommy Nothing Fancy wanted to die with his dad and his dog while fishing."

    Nasdijj's wife wanted Tommy in the hospital receiving modern medical treatment. "She was a modern Indian... She begged. She pleaded. She screamed. She pounded the walls. But the hospitals and doctors never made it better."

    Though the conflict tore his marriage apart, Nasdijj continued to take his son fishing and, true to his last wish, Tommy died of a seizure while on an expedition.

    "I was catching brown trout," Nasdijj wrote. "I was thinking about cooking them for dinner over our campfire when Tommy Nothing Fancy fell. All that shaking. It was as if a bolt of lighting surged uncontrolled through the damaged brain of my son. It wasn't fair. He was just a little boy who liked to fish... I was holding him when he died... The fish escaped."

    The Esquire piece, as successful as it was heartbreaking, was a finalist for a National Magazine Award and helped establish Nasdijj as a prominent new voice in the world of nonfiction. "Esquire's Cinderella story," as Salon's Sean Elder called it, "arrived over the transom, addressed to no one in particular. 'The cover letter was this screed about how Esquire had never published the work of an American-Indian writer and never would because it's such a racist publication,' recalls editor in chief David Granger. 'And under it was... one of the most beautiful pieces of writing I'd ever read.' By the time the piece was published in the June issue, the writer (who lives on an Indian reservation) had a book contract."

    The contract was for a full-length memoir, The Blood Runs Like A River Through My Dreams, published by Houghton Mifflin in 2000 to great acclaim. It was followed by two more memoirs, The Boy and the Dog Are Sleeping (Ballantine, 2003), and Geronimo's Bones: A Memoir of My Brother and Me (Ballantine, 2004). As if losing a son was not enough, the memoirs portray a lifetime of suffering.

    Nasdijj was born on the Navajo reservation in a hogan in 1950, he claims, the son of an abusive white cowboy "who broke, bred, and bootlegged horses" and a Navajo mother. "My mother," he writes, "was a hopeless drunk. I would use the word 'alcoholic' but it's too polite. It's a white people word... There is nothing polite about cleaning up your mother in her vomit and dragging her unconscious carcass back to the migrant housing trailer you lived in."

    Nasdijj says his father would sometimes pimp his mother to other migrant workers for "five bucks" and that she died of alcoholism when he was 7. Though their time together was short and turbulent, Nasdijj says his mother instilled in him the Navajo traditions that now inform his work.

    His father, he says, was a sexual predator who raped him the night his mother died. Because his father was white, Nasdijj says he was treated like an "outcast bastard" on the reservation. Like Tommy Nothing Fancy, Nasdijj claims to have fetal alcohol syndrome and to have been raised, with his brother, in migrant camps all over the country.

    Nasdijj knows how to pull heartstrings. Both The Blood and The Boy revolve around the lives and deaths of his adopted Navajo sons. "Death, to the Navajo, is like the cold wind that blows across the mesa from the north," Nasdijj writes in The Blood. "We do not speak of it." But Nasdijj does speak of it. In fact, he speaks of it almost exclusively. Death and suffering are his staples.

    "My son comes back to me when I least expect to see his ghostly vision," he writes. "He lives in my bones and scars."

    But Nasdijj hasn't built his career purely through the tragic and sensational nature of his stories. His style is an artful blending of poetry and prose, and his work has met with nearly universal critical praise. The Blood "reminds us that brave and engaging writers lurk in the most forgotten corners of society," wrote Ted Conover in The New York Times Book Review. Rick Bass called it "mesmerizing, apocalyptic, achingly beautiful and redemptive... a powerful American classic," while Howard Frank Mosher said it was "the best memoir I have read about family love, particularly a father's love for his son, since A River Runs Through It."The Blood was a New York Times Notable Book, a finalist for the PEN/Martha Albrand Award and winner of the Salon Book Award.

    The Boy and the Dog Are Sleeping was published to more glowing reviews ? "vivid and immediate, crackling with anger, humor, and love" (The Washington Post) and "riveting... lyrical... a ragged wail of a song, an ancient song, where we learn what it is to truly be a parent and love a child" (USA Today).

    Shortly after The Blood came out, Nasdijj writes, he moved back to the Navajo reservation, where word of his book and his compassion spread. One day while fishing, a Navajo man and his 10-year-old son approached him. The man took Nasdijj aside and explained that he, his wife and their son, Awee, had AIDS. "They were not terrific parents," Nasdijj wrote "but they wanted this child to have a chance at life." Nasdijj was that chance. For the next two years Nasdijj cared for Awee until his death from AIDS-related illness.

    The Boy won a 2004 PEN/Beyond Margins Award and helped solidify Nasdijj's place as one of the most celebrated multicultural writers in American literature. But as his successes and literary credentials grew in number so did his skeptics ? particularly from within the Native American community. Sherman Alexie first heard of Nasdijj in 1999 after his former editor sent him a galley proof of The Blood for comment. At the time, Alexie, who is Spokane and Coeur d'Alene, was one of the hottest authors in America and was widely considered the most prominent voice in Native American literature. His novel Indian Killer was a New York Times notable book, and his cinematic feature Smoke Signals was the previous year's Sundance darling, nominated for the Grand Jury Prize and winner of the Audience Award. Alexie's seal of approval would have provided The Blood with a virtual rubber stamp of native authenticity. But it took Alexie only a few pages before he realized he couldn't vouch for the work. It wasn't just that similar writing style and cadence that bothered Alexie.

    "The whole time I was reading I was thinking, this doesn't just sound like me, this is me," he says.

    Alexie was born hydrocephalic, a life-threatening condition characterized by water on the brain. At the age of 6 months he underwent brain surgery that saved his life but left him, much like Tommy Nothing Fancy, prone to chronic seizures throughout his childhood. Instead of identifying with Nasdijj's story, however, Alexie became suspicious.

    "At first I was flattered but as I kept reading I noticed he was borrowing from other Native writers too. I thought, this can't be real."

    Indeed, Nasdijj's stories also bear uncanny resemblance to the works of N. Scott Momaday, Leslie Silko and especially Michael Dorris, whose memoir The Broken Cord depicts his struggle to care for his adopted FAS-stricken Native Alaskan children. Although there was never more than a similar phrase here and there, Alexie was convinced that the work was fabricated. He wasn't alone.

    Shortly after his review of The Blood came out in The New York Times Book Review, Ted Conover received an Internet greeting card from Nasdijj chastising him for his piece. Conover, an award-winning journalist whose 2003 book Newjack: Guarding Sing Sing was a finalist for the Pulitzer Prize, was taken aback. Not only is it highly unusual for an author to attack a reviewer, but it is especially unusual when the review in question was overwhelmingly positive ? Conover's flattering words would grace the paperback cover.

    Conover's main critique was that Nasdijj was "stingy with self-revelation." He questioned certain inconsistencies in the author's background, noting that Nasdijj sometimes said his mother was "with the Navajo," sometimes she was "Navajo, or so she claimed," and other times she was just "Navajo." Conover never accused Nasdijj of lying, he merely suggested that the writer be more forthcoming. Nasdijj, however, rejected this suggestion and sent the angry letter, which Conover characterizes as a sprawling diatribe.

    "The whole thing was just really bizarre," Conover says.

    Conover sent a copy of the card to Anton Mueller, Nasdijj's editor at Houghton Mifflin and an acquaintance. "I wondered if he might shed a little light on this," he says. Mueller, however, never responded and the incident left Conover wondering whether he should have been more thorough in investigating Nasdijj before writing his review. It didn't take him long to find an answer. Several weeks later, Conover was contacted by an expert in fetal alcohol syndrome who had read his review. She informed him that while she sympathized with the plight of Nasdijj and his son, the symptoms described in The Blood are not actually those of FAS.

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