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Lyr Req: Irish myth in folksongs

Macha 14 Feb 05 - 09:28 AM
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Irish myth in folksongs
From: Macha
Date: 14 Feb 05 - 09:28 AM

I did cite this site and everyone who helped.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Irish myth in folksongs
From: GUEST,harperlass
Date: 08 Feb 05 - 12:32 AM

Yay! :) It was a very cool presentation. Thanks for inviting me. :)

Molly


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Irish myth in folksongs
From: Macha
Date: 07 Feb 05 - 11:31 PM

I got an A on my paper! And a B on my presentation!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Irish myth in folksongs
From: Sorcha
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 02:13 PM

Never mind, I didn't read all the way thru.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Irish myth in folksongs
From: Sorcha
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 02:11 PM

Isn't thre one about Deidre and Nesi? Deidre's Lament or something?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Irish myth in folksongs
From: ard mhacha
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 02:06 PM

Further up the Thread I referred to The Red Branch Knights, mentioned in Thomas Moore`s "Let Erin remember", he also refers to in the second verse,

   "On Lough Neagh`s banks as the fisherman strays in the clear cool eve declining,

He see the Round Towers of other days in the waves beneath them shining".

As a child, I had many a swim in Lough Neagh and was always disappointed on not seeing those fabled Towers.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Irish myth in folksongs
From: Amergin
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 12:09 PM

I just saw this. That is great news! Good Job!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Irish myth in folksongs
From: Wolfgang
Date: 23 Sep 04 - 09:17 AM

Thanks for telling, good to read that. You can keep the A and hand us over the B for providing Backup information.

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Irish myth in folksongs
From: Macha
Date: 22 Sep 04 - 06:51 PM

I got and A on my paper and a B on my presention. Yeah!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Irish myth in folksongs
From: Macha
Date: 25 May 04 - 03:58 PM

ok I will be sure to tell you how it all turned out.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Irish myth in folksongs
From: Amergin
Date: 24 May 04 - 01:15 AM

Oh cool beans...good luck! and let us know how it turns out!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Irish myth in folksongs
From: Macha
Date: 21 May 04 - 03:36 PM

Thank you all so much. I was able to write my report and hopefully will get a good grade.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Irish myth in folksongs
From: Nerd
Date: 11 May 04 - 04:15 PM

There was a band called Oisin, and I think they did do a song based on Irish mythology on one of their albums. I don't remember if it's the same piece referred to above by Pat Kilbride but it may be.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Irish myth in folksongs
From: Macha
Date: 11 May 04 - 03:50 PM

cool. I need some songs that are somewhat influenced by the legend of Osian.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Irish myth in folksongs
From: nickr90
Date: 06 May 04 - 05:01 PM

May be a little off subject but Tom williams wrote a song about a famous Wexford Hurler - Nicky Rackard entitled Cu Chulain's Son comparing him to the legendary figure
myth coming into modern time


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Irish myth in folksongs
From: Macha
Date: 06 May 04 - 04:06 PM

I am done with the rough draft and waiting to get it back.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Irish myth in folksongs
From: GUEST,amergin
Date: 04 May 04 - 12:08 PM

Coo...I was just wondering how the project is coming?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Irish myth in folksongs
From: Macha
Date: 28 Apr 04 - 11:52 AM

Thank you so much.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Irish myth in folksongs
From: Amergin
Date: 28 Apr 04 - 02:11 AM

There is a song called the Selkie Queen


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Irish myth in folksongs
From: Macha
Date: 27 Apr 04 - 04:12 PM

Any songs on the Selkie Legends would be most helpful.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Irish myth in folksongs
From: GUEST,Brian
Date: 27 Apr 04 - 09:58 AM

There is a nice song composed by Padraigin Ni Uallachain calledTHE WILLOW TREE. I have the words but not with me right now.

Brian


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Irish myth in folksongs
From: Macha
Date: 26 Apr 04 - 07:02 PM

Thank you so much I will use it.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Irish myth in folksongs
From: GUEST,amergin
Date: 26 Apr 04 - 04:48 PM

White Swans

that one ;)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Irish myth in folksongs
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Apr 04 - 04:12 PM

Have you tried going to the offical web site of any celtic singers? Sometimes they have their lyrics listed.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Irish myth in folksongs
From: Macha
Date: 26 Apr 04 - 03:58 PM

Which song?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Irish myth in folksongs
From: GUEST,amergin
Date: 26 Apr 04 - 03:08 PM

if you wish to use that song I poste above...you may...if not that's ok...


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Irish myth in folksongs
From: Maryrrf
Date: 24 Apr 04 - 09:13 PM

Is it lyrics you're looking for, or the songs on CD?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Irish myth in folksongs
From: Macha
Date: 23 Apr 04 - 04:58 PM

Yeah, that would be really nice.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Irish myth in folksongs
From: GUEST,Maryrrf
Date: 23 Apr 04 - 04:22 PM

Are you interested in recently composed songs dealing with Irish Mythology? I have a friend who has written several.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Irish myth in folksongs
From: Ossian
Date: 23 Apr 04 - 03:53 PM

Solas. They did a song about a mythological person. Sorry I can't remember the title.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Irish myth in folksongs
From: Macha
Date: 23 Apr 04 - 01:01 PM

The songs I need can be influenced by themes (the plot), Values (what makes a good person and such) and symbols (example: harp, spear, sword and such).


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Irish myth in folksongs
From: Kathleen in Va.
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 05:56 PM

I think Mary McLaughlin's version of the Children of Lir is one of the nicest I've ever heard..sad and very much a lament.

It has a chorus that goes: I am Finnoula, the Daughter of Lir
                            Condemned to die for 900 years
                            These are my brothers; all three are here
                            A plaintive song falls on helpless ears

Can't remember the name of the album she recorded it on as a solo. I heard it when she was travelling with Anne Lister as Anonyma.
I still get a chill thinking about that legend, one of my very favorite Irish stories.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Irish myth in folksongs
From: Macha
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 04:05 PM

Thank you!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Irish myth in folksongs
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 04:00 PM

Si Bheag Si Mhor/Fairy Hills


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Irish myth in folksongs
From: Macha
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 03:54 PM

It would really help if there was an englaish setting of Si Beg Si Mhor. Thank you so much this really helps with my project.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Irish myth in folksongs
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 02:01 PM

would an english lnaguage setting of Si Beg Si Mhor count?

and Brian Leo's lyrics set to 'Brian Boru' as 'Brian the King'?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Irish myth in folksongs
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 01:56 PM

Back to Horslips - a couple of years back there was a thread requesting lyrics from The Tain. This was before Charles O'Connor had his own website. I recall that there were some Blickies to Fan-Sites containing lyrics. A quick forum search should unearth the information.
Quack!
GtD.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Irish myth in folksongs
From: Fiona
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 09:52 AM

I don't know if it's quite what you're looking for but on Malinkys 'Three Ravens' album there's a song called 'Thaney'. It's written by Karine Polwart and tells the dark tale of St Mungos mother Thanew, who's more commonly known as St Enoch. I had always thought St Enoch was St Mungos father, St Mungo is Glasgows patron saint and there are many tales about him but till I heard this song I'd never heard of the rape and banishment of his mother, well worth a listen. Karine Polwart is a fine storyteller as well as a wonderful singer.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Irish myth in folksongs
From: michaelr
Date: 21 Apr 04 - 07:25 PM

Macha -- both songs have been discussed here. Search the forum!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Irish myth in folksongs
From: Macha
Date: 21 Apr 04 - 03:52 PM

I would like to know where I can find the story behind The Bonny Swans and The Cruel Sister.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Irish myth in folksongs
From: Amergin
Date: 21 Apr 04 - 02:34 PM

just bumping this up..


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Irish myth in folksongs
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 21 Apr 04 - 05:52 AM

I echo Les from Hull's comments about Horslips. One of the finest Rock/Folk bands ever, and Charles O'Connor, their fiddler/singer is such a nice bloke as well. I would recommend Horslips records as fine music whether you wnt the mythology connection or not.
Quack!
Geoff the Duck.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Irish myth in folksongs
From: Macha
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 06:39 PM

Actully the project is Celtic legends on Celtic songs.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Irish myth in folksongs
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 05:05 PM

Again, that relates to Scandinavian, not Irish, myth; though there is a chance that the swan in the refrain of that particular version is an Irish touch, swans being a popular motif there. The song was quite widespread in Scotland and England (and later in America) from at least the second half of the 17th century, but has only rarely been found in Ireland; though part of McKennitt's text is from a set noted by Frank Kidson from an Irishman in Liverpool around a century ago. McKennitt appears to have got the song from Roy Palmer's Everyman's Book of British Ballads, where the fragmentary 'Kidson' text is augmented from other sources, chiefly Scottish. Her arrangement follows exactly the same pattern, with the usual trivial changes in words and word-order. It's hard to be 100% sure, though, as she seems rarely to bother to acknowledge her sources. I think she made up her own tune.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Irish myth in folksongs
From: Macha
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 04:21 PM

Bonny swans by Lorena McKennitt.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Irish myth in folksongs
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 04:15 PM

Heather Alexander's Deirdre's Lament is a good song about Deidre.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Irish myth in folksongs
From: Amergin
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 01:57 PM

Oops it was me that posted that song up above...


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Irish myth in folksongs
From: Fear Faire
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 10:23 AM

As regards the "Fenian" poems mentioned by JTT, music does exist for a small number of the Laoithe Fiannaíochta/Fenian Lays. Again, more examples were collected in Scotland than in Ireland (it is the same material) but the few examples that were recorded are important in offering a glimpse of the type of music which probably accompanied the bardic metres before they were totally usurped by song metres by the 18th century. The work of Professor Breandán Ó Madagáin (now retired) is probably the most current in this area while perusal of periodicals such as Scottish Studies and Scottish Gaelic Studies will turn up many discussions and some staff notation of the Hebridean material.

FF


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Irish myth in folksongs
From: Big Mick
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 09:32 AM

By the way, have any of you worked out an arrangement of this?

Mick


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Irish myth in folksongs
From: Big Mick
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 09:28 AM

Yeah, Wolfgang old friend, I did not mean to imply that it was an old song. Just that it covered the type of subject she was looking for. I am aware it is of quite recent vintage. Quite frankly, I wish there were more of these modern treatments of the old fables. It is such a rich source of great stories. If they could all be done as well as this, it would be great listening.

Mick


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