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Donuel 21 Apr 04 - 04:07 PM
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Subject: BS: Black holes
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Apr 04 - 04:07 PM

Black holes have been around since the first illumination of the galaxy. Where ever gravity concentrated enough matter a hole would form. Black holes indeed help create galaxies. In fact every galaxy including our own have a black hole with the exception of a few primordial globular cluster galaxies. A voraciously feeding black hole is called a quasar. It glows brighter than other galaxy.

People ask; what is on the other side of a black hole, what kind of catastrophes could they cause, what do they do?

There is no other side unless sufficient pressure builds to unleash a big bang of its own. Pinched off from our universe some black holes give birth to entirely new universes into a newly created space continum seperate and apart from our own. We have registered explosions in the universe that would eual the energy of our entire universe but curiously our universe is fine afterwards. Perhaps we are registering the energy sympathetically through the dark energy dimension/parrallel brane that permeates all known space.

Colliding galaxies with black holes will cause super massive black holes to feed again and create numerous super novas. It will be another 2 billion years before Andromeda collides with the Milky Way.
When 2 black holes collide.

So black holes are creators and destroyers. Often overlooked is the probablility that black holes condense far more than just visible matter but many other dimensions as well.

Here is another way I put it 5 years ago...


'WE GOT HERE FROM THERE,BUT WE GET CAN'T
GET THERE FROM HERE - FOR A VERY LONG TIME'

From a tiny egg our mother universe was conceived. She
grew at an exponential rate , expanding space and
coalescing dimensions as she grew to an ever increasing
full size. Some of these dimensions collapsed to infinity small regions and by an interesting quirk our familiar 3 dimensions continued to grow larger. This inflating hypersphere is our big bang , yet
claims as to what came before the big bang are curiously
missing. Well I am here to tell you what it is. : We all came
from the great space womb in the sky - a black hole. The
place where we can not see beyond the event horizon but
still see the result all around us.

If you ever wondered what a black hole looks like from the
inside , look out your front door. Everything you see and
more is the product of a black hole. Yes our heavier
elements are from "recent" supernovas but the birth of our
universe is from a black hole. Our universe has the very
same event horizon as a black hole in that there is no
escape . Yes exits are created when super black holes or
quasar like massive collisions of black holes within our
universe create such gravitation that energies spawn a
new inflationary hypersphere bubble of a new universe .

Our universe is a mother and has given birth to other
universes . We have "heard" the burst of energies from
these births since they have left measured evidence of
colossal bursts equal to energies of our entire universe but
we can not see this newly inflating universe because it is
within its "own" space. No child universe is identical to its
parent. Changes to their cosmological constants may be
subtle or large , full of self knowing (self aware) intelligence
or dumb as a post . The same may be true of the universe
that spawned ours. A Universe is like a seed that falls FAR
from the tree. Some seeded universes may not even be
capable of procreation and if they are quite different, the
hazards of ever going there may be beyond dangerous.

The birth of one universe from another does not create a symmetrical (identical) child of the parent.
This super symmetry of 'creations' is not an exact mirror . It
is a turbulent mirror that shares a fractal similarity on every
scale within it , but not in exact substance to the parent.
There are limits to this anthropomorphic comparison on
quantum scales but they too will reflect fractally to the ever
larger meta universe and therein lies the clues of emerging and disappearing virtual particles which may
bridge - tunnel to other universes.

As our universe feeds on itself , expands and procreates
,the evidence of "our offspring and ancestors" is dimensionally removed from our sight. Perhaps 11 dimensional string theroy and the new quantum computer will give us new insight.( a large
population of other universes must leave some evidence for us to discover ) I wondered if the enigmatic dark
matter interacts as a field of energy but is wholly
separate from our visible universe.

As is true with ourselves universes eat , grow , procreate
and die cold . On a grander fractal scale that would explode the human mind, ALL universes are are along a torus continum of balck hole universes that graduate to white "hole" universes.

We have left the gravity well of our planet , Voyager is
leaving the gravity well of the Sun yet is inexplicably slowing faster than theorized. We may leave the well
of our galaxy...but to leave the well of the universe requires
the energies that created her in the first place unless we
can somehow sidestep these vast energies and use
stepping stones or tunnel to our mother universe's relatives
(or sufficiently cooled children). How these tunnels are built
is now in your hands.

~~~
~~~
You see , it may take a philosopher to help visualize where
we can or can not go.

As it was with Jules Verne or Stanley Clark ,who
foretold many new worlds to discover and how to
get there, the next great "philosopher" may be a Science Fiction writer, OR THE POET


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Subject: RE: BS: Black holes
From: GUEST,Lyle
Date: 21 Apr 04 - 04:45 PM

Interesting, Donuel.

I like the term "torus continum of black hole universes." But I wonder - is a torus continum required or can they be isolated but connected through strings? Or do the strings constitute the continum?


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Subject: RE: BS: Black holes
From: TheBigPinkLad
Date: 21 Apr 04 - 05:00 PM

universe n. All existing things; f. L universum neut. (as n.) of UNI(versus p.p. of vertere turn) combined into one, whole]

It takes a pedant with a dictionary to point out there can only be one universe.


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Subject: RE: BS: Black holes
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 21 Apr 04 - 05:02 PM

"sufficient pressure builds to unleash a big bang of its own."

The most likley do not explode ever... they most likely, eventually evaporate away is a cloud of Hawking radiation....

And the end, like the universe will, not with a bang, but with a fizzle...   Heat-death is our eventual fate...


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Subject: RE: BS: Black holes
From: GUEST,thickasshit
Date: 21 Apr 04 - 05:18 PM

Heat Death! Hey, that could be good. Before the heat death, we might get gorgeous summers.


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Subject: RE: BS: Black holes
From: GUEST,Lyle
Date: 21 Apr 04 - 05:35 PM

Well, BigPinkLad, you are right in the common use of the word, but that was coined in the days before physics started looking at the possibility of multiple things that had commonly been called the "universe." There are a lot of things that just can't be described using terminology from the old fashioned three dimensional world that can be described exceptionally well mathematically, but not in the every day language of dictionaries. So physicists talk to non physics people in a common language that both recognize is inaccurate.

But then, the world would probably be a real mess if everyone was a physicist!


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Subject: RE: BS: Black holes
From: TheBigPinkLad
Date: 21 Apr 04 - 05:44 PM

'Universe' is not a coined phrase, an remnant of old fashioned termnology; it's a very precise noun, current and valid. The physicists might want to use a different and more accurate word if they want to convey something other than universe.


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Subject: RE: BS: Black holes
From: Don Firth
Date: 21 Apr 04 - 06:02 PM

I recall reading a paperback SF novel many years ago entitled, The Girl in the Atom (not a classic). Goofy science, but a fun read. The idea was that an atom was analogous to a solar system (nucleus=star, electrons=planets), and our stalwart heroes, instead of journeying outward, journeyed inward (using a process something like that used in the movie "Fantastic Voyage," only moreso) and had all kinds of space opera-type adventures. Of course, the implication was that if we could similarly increase in size, we might find that our own Earth is a mere electron in some unimaginably huge creature's cheese sandwich. There were other stories along this line: notably Henry Hasse's He Who Shrank, published in the August 1936 issue of "Amazing Stories" (I read it in an anthology), and the movie, "The Incredible Shrinking Man."

The idea that The Universe, which we always assume is singular, might be just that—the inside of a singularity—sounds immensely reasonable to me. Isn't it possible that that the Big Bang came as a result of a large star in another Universe somewhere/somewhen else (but completely subsuming everything) going supernova? And isn't it possible that every time a star in our universe goes supernova and a black hole is formed, another universe is born somewhere/somewhen, completely subsumed by our universe?

Perhaps all of Creation (or "Happenstance," if you will) is like matryoshka, Russian nesting dolls. Universes within universes within universes, each universe periodically spawning other universes ad infinitum.
Great fleas have little fleas upon their backs to bite 'em,
And little fleas have lesser fleas, and so ad infinitum.
And the great fleas themselves, in turn, have greater fleas to go on;
While these again have greater still, and greater still, and so on.
                      —Augustus de Morgan, in A budget of Paradoxes
But then again, maybe they're not nested; maybe they're all parallel. Or some unimaginable combination of both. [I'm getting dizzy!]

Great fodder for science fiction. By the way, how do the folks in "Star Gate" know they're winding up on other planets? Might the thing not be transporting them to other universes? [I know, I know. "uni-" indicates only one. But you know what I mean.]

When I was a wee sprat, I was fascinated by the "Buck Rogers" comic strip. At the age of about eight, I did a thought experiment: I contemplated the possibility of getting into a rocket ship and going as far as I could possibly go. What would I encounter? A brick wall? A steel wall studded with rivets, like the drawings in the comic strip? If so, then that raises the question, "What is beyond that wall?"

For a few seconds I had an almost visceral grasp of the concept of infinity.

Don Firth

P.S. Kinda makes politics seem sorta trivial, doesn't it?


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Subject: RE: BS: Black holes
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 21 Apr 04 - 06:09 PM

"Kinda makes politics seem sorta trivial, doesn't it?"

You mean it's not?


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Subject: RE: BS: Black holes
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 21 Apr 04 - 06:18 PM

And I thought the Haemmoroid thread had finished.


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Subject: RE: BS: Black holes
From: Bill D
Date: 21 Apr 04 - 06:49 PM

well, I've read as much science-fiction as most folks, and it was great to be able to suspend belief for awhile and travel faster than light, and thru parallel 'universes', and to the gravitational edge of Neutron stars, and to the center of the galaxy with Larry Niven. (Who also gave us a world built AROUND a sun!).........but so many of those concepts are will-o-the-wisps, like "east of the sun and west of the moon".

It is most fascinating to me that we even able to think about our 'universe' being part of a larger atom, etc....to jump from that to supposing that it might actually be possible is just too much for my poor old brain..*grin*


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Subject: RE: BS: Black holes
From: Shanghaiceltic
Date: 21 Apr 04 - 06:51 PM

'It's where matter an' anti-matter mix and it des nae ****ing matter anymore captain'


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Subject: RE: BS: Black holes
From: Don Firth
Date: 21 Apr 04 - 07:03 PM

Well, Clinton, unfortunately politics can be a bit intrusive on the molecular level that we inhabit. But you're right. It is trivial. That's the problem. Trivial people with too damned much authority. But here we are, talking about hemorrhoids again.

Back to black holes. Much more interesting.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Black holes
From: Amos
Date: 21 Apr 04 - 10:21 PM

Universe has one definition as "all things everywhere", but it has another as "all items in a sphere of discourse" or even "an entire system of created things".

Since the advent of quantum mechanics and Heisenberg, the notion has been in play that there may be parallel universes in each of which a minuely different set of possibilities comes true. This changes the core concept, which was based on a single universe being the container of all that is, which is more of a Newtonian space-timne continuum, a single large box of space in which everyting we are and everything we see is found. This is convenient for most practical purposes. But it isn't by any means an absolute truth about reality.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Black holes
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Apr 04 - 11:44 PM

Larry Niven - great stuff Bill

.........
If the concept of the multi verse model seems strange to you, that is good. We first need to challenge ego centrism before we can be free of it.

Speculation has it that as little as 23 kg of mass at a compressed energy of 10 to the 200th? power is enough to descend through de sitter space and create its own spatial universe. We are currently trying to do this on a miniature scale at the Fermi Lab in Long Island. The worst that can happen is a small class 1 super nova but then again some thought before the first atomic bomb test that a fission chain reaction knew no bounds.

That certain black holes can spawn a universe of its own and others do not isn't remarkable. The same is true with people. Anthropormorphism in quantum mechanics and cosmology is frowned upon but I can not resist the fractal sense it makes that a universe can give birth.

.........................

For those that have no idea what string theory is let me say this.
I don;t either. But try this...
Picture a hammer dulcimer submerged in water so the stings are barely covered. Add an energy vector and stike a string. Waves spread out in the water and particles/ drops of water dance into the air.

All things are energy and that energy can be expressed in waves and particles. Different energies and combination of energies interacting between and within dimensions vibrate differently. String theory tries to explain the origins of particle wave energies at a scale as small to atoms as the earth is to the universe.

Should they crack the string code I envision playing a technology organ that would transmogrify elements and energies as an instrumentalist turns his instrument into fantastic music.

Meanwhile I am a moron since I do not know what gravity is other than what it can do. It is the weakest atomic force yet it inherits the universe and creates black holes. On a super large scale there is an anti gravity which is now overtaking gravity and accellerating the dillution of the universe. {Could this be related to black hole energies flowing into a parrallel brane. Brane is a term for a shadow universe of sorts.

String theorists hope to find how strings may produce gravity and anti gravity like discovering a musical chord that urges for a resolution and creates energies of attracting and repeling.
Once they can understand gravity and find a balance of all energy relationships , string theorists will have found the equation of everything.

What everything is will still be unknown but they will be able to fit new unknowns into a model to better understand what could be out there.

Like seeing all of creation as a vibrating music of the spheres has been called an idea 200 years before its time mathmatically, but I believe the notion has been around a very long time psychologically/spiritually.



PS side note... the average percent of of the mass of a black hole to its galaxy is one half of one percent. About the same as our reproductive system to the rest of our bodies. About the same percent of the population that rules the remainder with their wealth.


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Subject: RE: BS: Black holes
From: Johnny in OKC
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 12:46 AM

The only thing more ridiculous than Donuel's cosmological babble
is arguing about the definition of "the universe".

However as Carl Sagan remarked in connection with Velikovsky's
notions, "The true tragedy is that many scientists tried to
SUPPRESS Velikovsky."

I suspect the universe of being A WHOLE LOT SIMPLER than
the High Priests of the Big Bang make out.

However we do not have the right to suppress the thoughts
of others, no matter how lunatic they may be.

Love, Johnny


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Subject: RE: BS: Black holes
From: Wolfgang
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 05:07 AM

Why stop at complaining about the word 'universe'. Let's got at all those who have used the word 'atom' in this thread in a completely wrong way: it means verbatim 'unsplittable' and should forever be used in that sense.

Wolfgang (:-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Black holes
From: Pied Piper
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 07:38 AM

Nonsense Wolfgang, words change meaning all the time and NOBODY apart from you and some of the other pedantic Fascists on this site will pay any attention.
For one thing it's a loan word from Greek and as you pointed out we already have the perfectly good word "unsplitable".
If the many words that the English language has borrowed from other Languages reverted to there original meanings English would cease to function.
I imagine your one of those people that would insist that the plural of fungus is fungi, but is somewhat les consistent when it comes to pluralizing slogan, bungalow, and wigwam.
Sorry for the thread drift but this kind of nonsense realy pisses me of.
PP


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Subject: RE: BS: Black holes
From: freda underhill
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 07:43 AM

a black hole is where the song words go when you can't remember them in a session.


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Subject: RE: BS: Black holes
From: Ringer
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 07:59 AM

"Black holes] most likely, eventually evaporate away in a cloud of Hawking radiation" I think you'll find, Clinton, that when Hawking radiation has so reduced their mass that they can't be black holes any more then they explode.


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Subject: RE: BS: Black holes
From: Wolfgang
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 08:05 AM

PP, I would have thought it was obvious my post was ironic. I was mistaken.

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: BS: Black holes
From: Pied Piper
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 08:14 AM

My apologies Wolfgang I must have been watching too much American TV.
TTFN
PP


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Subject: RE: BS: Black holes
From: Wolfgang
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 08:48 AM

No problem, has happened to me as well. No body language in the posts yet.

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: BS: Black holes
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 10:33 AM

Wolfgang, you're not the one that needs to apoligize; the culprit is TheBigPinkLad!


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Subject: RE: BS: Black holes
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 10:36 AM

Velikovsky garnered little support but was not suppressed.
His books were published.
Speaking allagorically regarding cosmological phenomena and theories is like writing down to a level of absurd simplicity, but there are always simpletons who attack implied meaning as babble.
Musings of cosmological possibilities is fascinating to some and an immediate door slam to others.
If you are a door slammer, save your hinges and don't answer.


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Subject: RE: BS: Black holes
From: TheBigPinkLad
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 12:54 PM

Just in case I end up painted a simpleton, pedantic fascist, and subjected to other insults neither sought nor warranted, I'd would point out that I have not attacked Donuel's remarks on Black Holes, nor parallelism, cosmic possiblity and the vastness of what we don't know in comparison to what we do. What we know, purport, surmise, discover, misinterpret etc. will be part of the universe, as everything is.


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Subject: RE: BS: Black holes
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 01:46 PM

Without any further adieu, back to Black ho's and their John's.


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Subject: RE: BS: Black holes
From: TheBigPinkLad
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 01:57 PM

And speaking of black holes, although I am none of the things I mentioned in the last-but-one message, I am a bit thick on who says what regarding things cosmic. I beleive, however, that the nature of black holes is such that the gravitational force is so strong that nothing can escape it, not even light. What is it you mean then, Donuel, by A voraciously feeding black hole is called a quasar. It glows brighter than other galaxy. Am I missing new information?


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Subject: RE: BS: Black holes
From: GUEST,alice through the internet
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 02:05 PM

read me


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Subject: RE: BS: Black holes
From: Don Firth
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 02:25 PM

Pinky, it's not what goes on inside a black hole, it's what goes on in its vicinity. Physics gets kinda weird in a neighborhood like that.

Keep it comin', Donuel! Musings and speculations push the envelop and stretch the mind. Provided the mind is sufficiently flexible.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Black holes
From: TheBigPinkLad
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 02:35 PM

OK, so the light is from the galaxy around the black hole, not the hole itself ... makes sense.


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Subject: RE: BS: Black holes
From: Don Firth
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 03:14 PM

I don't know if you could call it "light," though. The electromagnetic radiation is usually in the form of X-rays. High energy and way up the EM spectrum.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Black holes
From: Rustic Rebel
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 04:19 PM

Donuel, are you Lee Smolin in reality? Your theory of universes through black holes is also his.


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Subject: RE: BS: Black holes
From: Mrrzy
Date: 08 Apr 19 - 09:41 PM

Ok, new question: how can they take a picture of a black hole when radiation/ light, by definition, could not make it back to the camera?


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Subject: RE: BS: Black holes
From: beardedbruce
Date: 09 Apr 19 - 11:59 AM

Mrrzy,

As matter falls toward the event horizon, it gives off energy ( light) which, being OUTSIDE of the event horizon, is visible, if red-shifted.

We take pictures of the region of the black hole, and can pinpoint it by it's effect on the surrounding mass and energy.


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Subject: RE: BS: Black holes
From: Mr Red
Date: 10 Apr 19 - 03:27 AM

it's effect on the surrounding mass and energy

Just as glass bends light and makes lenses, so black holes bend light that it doesn't catch and they call it lensing.


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Subject: RE: BS: Black holes
From: David Carter (UK)
Date: 10 Apr 19 - 03:56 AM

There is supposed to be a press release today from the Event Horizon Telescope. I know nothing about this apart from what I can read online, and much of that is so dumbed down it doesn't make sense. But the EHT appears to be a network of high frequency radio telescopes, operating as a very long baseline interferometer. So you combine the signals from the telescopes to effectively construct a large telescope with a diameter set by the separations between the individual telescopes.

What they seem to have wanted to do is image the black hole shadow of the black hole in the centre of our galaxy. The black hole shadow isn't the same as the event horizon, it is an absence of radiation from the hot material surrounding the black hole caused by the fact that the black hole absorbs part of that light.

New Scientist article on this project


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Subject: RE: BS: Black holes
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Apr 19 - 09:00 AM

By stitching images together over time the width of the telescopic lense is a virtual width of Earth's orbit. I've seen early incomplete compilations and its sort of Meh.


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Subject: RE: BS: Black holes
From: David Carter (UK)
Date: 10 Apr 19 - 09:41 AM

What you have to stitch together is effectively the Fourier transforms of the images. This is quite a complicated process. When I was more active in this field, this would have been thought quite impossible at such short wavelengths, because of the effect of the atmosphere on submillimetre wave radiation. Clever techniques, known as closure phase and self-calibration are the key to this observation.

I was wrong about one major thing, they showed today the image of the centre of M87, an elliptical galaxy in the Virgo cluster of galaxies, not of our own galaxy. They are doing our own galaxy but havn't finished analysing the data yet.


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Subject: RE: BS: Black holes
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Apr 19 - 10:43 AM

cool
The super computers looked massive


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Subject: RE: BS: Black holes
From: Bill D
Date: 10 Apr 19 - 12:37 PM

video of the release of the image


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Subject: RE: BS: Black holes
From: Donuel
Date: 11 Apr 19 - 09:23 AM

I can see the dark round mouth of Homer Simpson eating a giant pink frosted donut.


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Subject: RE: BS: Black holes
From: Mrrzy
Date: 12 Apr 19 - 02:48 PM

So... Not a pic of the black hole, but of its effects. Ok.


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Subject: RE: BS: Black holes
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Apr 19 - 03:53 PM

If we could reliably see neutrinos a black hole would look very different. When black holes overeat we can see Xray and gamma rays squirting out the poles.

If we could do the impossible and 'Xray' a black hole you would see 3 distinct regions of spacetime (depending on spin) and the ultra impossible singularity.

The cool thing about black holes is that time and space get reversed.
Space would begin to pass like time and you would navigate time like a cruise ship navigates the sea to different ports. (see Penrose diagrams)


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Subject: RE: BS: Black holes
From: Mr Red
Date: 13 Apr 19 - 02:17 AM

So Black Holes eat doughnuts?


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Subject: RE: BS: Black holes
From: BobL
Date: 13 Apr 19 - 03:13 AM

Black Holes are omnivorous in a very literal way.


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Subject: RE: BS: Black holes
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Apr 19 - 07:07 PM

Ha   the ultimate omnivore. If a BH spins at 'ludicrous' speed centrifugal force plays a role inside the BH. The spinning equatorial region would slow the inevitable journey/time to the singuarity. The poles speed up time in contrast.

I speculate that there may be certain black holes that appear to explode but they are reacting to an internal collision between rising centrifugal forces and matter falling inwards.


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