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Lyr Add: Done Found My Lost Sheep

wysiwyg 25 Apr 04 - 03:33 PM
AllisonA(Animaterra) 25 Apr 04 - 07:55 PM
Nancy King 25 Apr 04 - 08:58 PM
wysiwyg 25 Apr 04 - 09:05 PM
masato sakurai 25 Apr 04 - 10:07 PM
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Q (Frank Staplin) 26 Apr 04 - 10:06 PM
WooBerry 01 Feb 06 - 10:53 AM
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wysiwyg 02 Feb 06 - 06:56 AM
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wysiwyg 02 Mar 06 - 10:19 AM
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Subject: Lyr Add: Done Found My Lost Sheep
From: wysiwyg
Date: 25 Apr 04 - 03:33 PM

DONE FOUND MY LOST SHEEP

REFRAIN:
Done found my lost sheep,
Done found my lost sheep!
Done found my lost sheep!
Hallelujah! I done found my lost sheep!
Done found my lost sheep,
Done found my lost sheep!

My Lord had a hundred sheep;
One of them did go astray.
That just left Him ninety-nine!
Go to the wilderness, seek and find.
And if you find him, bring him back,
Across your shoulders, and across your back
Tell your neighbors all around--
That lost sheep has sure been found.

In that Resurrection Day
Sinner can't find no hiding-place.
Run to the mountain, the mountain move;
Run to the hill, and the hill run too
Sinner-man traveling on trembling ground
Poor lost sheep ain't never been found
Sinner, why don't you stop and pray?
You might hear your Shepherd say:
(Chorus)


Negro Spiritual. This version is as sung by the Hopeful Gospel Quartet on "A Prairie Home Comapnion."

SH


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Done Found My Lost Sheep
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 25 Apr 04 - 07:55 PM

It's also on the wonderful "Sharon Mountain Harmony" cd from Folk Legacy.

Allison


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Done Found My Lost Sheep
From: Nancy King
Date: 25 Apr 04 - 08:58 PM

Right,Allison. It's sung simply and beautifully by Lucy Simpson.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Done Found My Lost Sheep
From: wysiwyg
Date: 25 Apr 04 - 09:05 PM

Any major difference in the lyric? More verses?

~S~


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Done Found My Lost Sheep
From: masato sakurai
Date: 25 Apr 04 - 10:07 PM

Also a 2-verse version in Johnson's Book of American Negro Spirituals, vol. 1, pp. 167-169.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Done Found My Lost Sheep
From: Nancy King
Date: 26 Apr 04 - 09:34 PM

The words in Lucy's recording are virtually identical to what's posted above. I listened to "Sharon Mountain Harmony" -- always a pleasant experience -- in order to verify it. Susan, if you don't have that album, do get it -- it's absolutely wonderful.

I don't have the Book of American Negro Spirituals, so can't compare that.

Nancy


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Done Found My Lost Sheep
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 26 Apr 04 - 10:06 PM

The lyrics in Johnson are essentially the same as those posted. A little difference in the dialect, mostly. Title: Done Foun' My Los' Sheep.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Done Found My Lost Sheep
From: WooBerry
Date: 01 Feb 06 - 10:53 AM

I would love some help composing a verse for this to incorporate the parable of the Found Coin. Any ideas?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Done Found My Lost Sheep
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Feb 06 - 10:54 PM

A version of the song is on "American Folk Songs for Christmas" by Mike, Peggy and Penny Seeger (Rounder CD 0268/0269). they do it as a counting song. The chorus and first verse as above. In the second verse, 2 go away and 98 left. Third verse, 3 go away and 97 left. They quit there but you can see the potential - an alternative to 99 bottles.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Done Found My Lost Sheep
From: wysiwyg
Date: 02 Feb 06 - 06:56 AM

WB, can you give me the Scripture citation for that parable?

~S~


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Done Found My Lost Sheep
From: WooBerry
Date: 02 Feb 06 - 07:38 AM

Luke: 15:8-9

8"Or suppose a woman has ten silver coins and loses one. Does she not light a lamp, sweep the house and search carefully until she finds it? 9And when she finds it, she calls her friends and neighbors together and says, 'Rejoice with me; I have found my lost coin.' [10 In the same way, I tell you, there is rejoicing in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents."]

It immediately follows the Parable of the Lost Sheep, and addresses the same issue.

I will be teaching both parables in Sunday School and would like to have the coin verse to follow the sheep verse.

Thanks!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Done Found My Lost Sheep
From: wysiwyg
Date: 02 Mar 06 - 10:19 AM

"Done Found My Lost Coin" doesn't seem to sing well. It's not a verse I would add, and nothing is coming to mind on it. If I were to add a verse it is more likely I would extend further into the sheep theme, looking into what sheep are like and how they need finding and depend on the shepherd's care and diligence.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Done Found My Lost Sheep
From: WooBerry
Date: 02 Mar 06 - 11:50 AM

Actually,
If you take the second verse as posted up in the inital response:
    "In that Resurrection Day
    Sinner can't find no hiding-place.
    Run to the mountain, the mountain move;
    Run to the hill, and the hill run too
    Sinner-man travelling on trembling ground
    Poor lost sheep ain't never been found
    Sinner, why don't you stop and pray?
    You might hear your Shepherd say: "

I think that the Found Coin parable does follow theologically, as it does in the scripture. We discuss them together in my program.
Both are references to the joy felt by the Lord to welcoming a sinner back into the "fold"
Maybe I will try and see if I can do something on my own and post it here.

Thanks!
Diana


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Done Found My Lost Sheep
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 02 Mar 06 - 12:11 PM

Sad to say, I just got an e-mail that Lucy Simpson passed away..

Jerry


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Done Found My Lost Sheep
From: wysiwyg
Date: 02 Mar 06 - 12:25 PM

Even if something is related theologically, it isn't necessarily related topically.

Without diving into hermeneutics or exegeting a text, we can easily say that Jesus does cast himself in the role of shepherd elsewhere in Scripture, but not as a woman who has lost a coin. I'm not eager to put words in His mouth as if He had.... perhaps that's why we don't have Found Coin Sunday as we do Good Shepherd Sunday. :~) Similarly, there's no verse like "Peter, find my purse" as there is "Peter, feed My sheep." Some of His parables clearly are metaphors for Himself, and some are stories cast in the imagery and concerns of the people He's teaching. (See "Form Criticism.")

Where money is used as imagery, there's the widow's mite and the parable of the talents, but these are not about a sinner's redemption; they're about a Christian response of grateful stewardship to blessings bestowed. They MIGHT belong all together in a song with a money-image refrain, depending how the refrain brings them together as does the refrain bring together the strands of meaning in "Done Found My Lost Sheep."

This does NOT mean that the Coin parable doesn't belong in the same lesson as the Sheep parable for Sunday School-- but it might mean that putting it into a song that already has a specific topic may not be the best place to put it, or it might mean that you could use it the same way Jesus did-- as a metaphor to extend the discussion with the children. You could elicit a discussion about how they would feel if they lost and then found a kitten or a dime.

I just think there is not already a song readily available (that I know of) about the coin, and that the sheep song is a poor fit with it.

It's important to be careful about these things, especially in the church setting. (St. Paul reminds us that just because a thing "can" be done does not mean it "should" be done.) Church music in the Episcopal Church is goverened by music canons requiring official approval of material. In our case, if the Church Publishing folks didn't publish it, the Rector has to approve it before I would think of using it.


BTW-- in the case of the use of the Sheep song as a counting song (replacing bottles of beer on the wall as described above)-- well that's fine on a schoolbus, but it ain't gospel. It's a secularization of the song completely. Jesus didn't teach about losing one sheep after another and having X number left-- He taught and modeled dealing with each as a precious individual. The counting song isn't a gospel song-- it takes Jesus as Shepeherd right out of the picture and replaces Him with oneself as the shepherd.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Done Found My Lost Sheep
From: WooBerry
Date: 02 Mar 06 - 05:52 PM

Susan,

I agree with you about what St. Paul said, and I do appreciate your further discussion on the matter. It does help me understand. He definitely knows that I don't have the last word on the subject! There is always so much more to learn!

I wasn't planning on singing this song in the church itself, although interestingly I didn't know about the canon of the music.

I totally agree about the counting song, and I didn't plan on using it like that at all. I was pleased to find the other verse there.
And you are right-the discussion will definitly include both parables, but there is no reason that the song has to have both in them. Just the verses that exist already would work. As with so much we have to approach the mystery "out of the corner of the eye" rather than directly, and it may be that the one verse will prompt questions and thoughts from the children which will be more profound than what I can choreograph.

Diana


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Done Found My Lost Sheep
From: wysiwyg
Date: 02 Mar 06 - 07:29 PM

Wonderful wacky world, dealing with all this, innit? God bless you for taking it on, Diana!

~Susan


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