Tech: Hotmail trouble?

Subject: RE: Tech: Hotmail trouble?
From: keberoxu
Date: 12 May 19 - 04:28 PM

I know, I know.
Hotmail is now part of something called Outlook, and all that.

But when I log into my e-mail,
I still have 'hotmail dot com' in the e-mail address, so there.

For the last two or three days,
the Outlook Hotmail site
will let me log in and alter existing drafts,
but it won't save when I ask it to save,
and it won't let me log out
unless I go to msn dot com and log out from there.

I'm darned if I know what's going on.

Subject: RE: BS: Hotmail trouble?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 12 Feb 05 - 09:00 PM

Yes - No - Maybe ...

Let's not start alll that again....

Subject: RE: BS: Hotmail trouble?
From: *Laura*
Date: 12 Feb 05 - 06:00 PM

I've just started a new thread for my problem - as it's quite different. Sorry! Is it possible to deleate the previous message from this thread?

Subject: RE: BS: Hotmail trouble?
From: *Laura*
Date: 12 Feb 05 - 05:58 PM

HELP ME!
I'm having a problem with MSN - and I can't sort it out :(
I got sent a virus thingy over messenger, which i opened before I realised it was a virus. I then deleated the files, once I realised what it was, and ran my full-system virus scanner which turned out nothing and said no viruses had been found.
So I thought it was Ok - but now every time I go on MSN I'm fine for a few minutes, then all my conversation windows flash up and close really quickly and those virus files get sent - and then I can't open up any windows to talk to anyone.
I had 2 versions of MSN on my computer so I uninstalled one of them, but the other won't uninstall - and I can't think of what to do. My virus scanner says there is no virus but I am apparently still sending a virus of some sort to people - HELP ME!
It doesn't seem to affect the computer in any other way - just messenger, the internet is still working and everything, and I'm fine so long as I don't sign in, or try to talk to anyone, so I thought if I unistalled messenger it would be ok - then I could put it in again later, but I can't uninstall it becasue for some reason when I go to 'add/remove programmes' it isn't in the list of programmes!
ANd it won't exit on my toolbar - whenever I try to exit it it says I need to close other things (e.g. outlook and explorer) first - but they arent open!
*waaaaaiiiiiiiiiiilllllllll* god I hate computers!
Why is nothing ever simple!?!?!?!?!??!?!
Please please please help me! I don't even know whose problem this is so I don't know who to call to help!

:-(

Subject: RE: BS: Hotmail trouble?
From: GUEST,TomW
Date: 12 Feb 05 - 04:58 PM

Who else has had this problem such as mine,i have got a full e-mail and passport adrress 4 hotmail but when i sign in to the website to view my e-mails and type in my password and e-mail it comes up with a notice saying i cannot go onto the website because is not the official one or because i dont have a .NET passport which i have ! PLEASE SOMEONE HELP ME !

Subject: RE: BS: Hotmail trouble?
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 29 Dec 04 - 11:59 AM

Foolestroupe -

The things you guys say about Yahoo have been a major factor in my not getting a DSL connection. They're the ONLY ISP available for it in my area. Of course I could "pass through" to another email service, but I'm not sure I really believe you can get through.

John

Subject: RE: BS: Hotmail trouble?
From: Bill D
Date: 29 Dec 04 - 11:42 AM

"I have this cottage on the beach, but every few years we get a big storm which causes lots of damage....what SHALL I do?"

"Well, sir...have you considered NOT living right on the beach?"

Too cynical? I dunno....if folks keep using products with constant and recurring problems, just because that's what was given to them when they got their computer, I don't know what to say. Almost program and service offered by Microsoft has better alternatives...usually free ones. I quit Hotmail several years ago, about 2 weeks after it was sold to Microsoft, because the minute M$ owned it, the spam started. I used Outlook Express for 'maybe' 2 months, 7 years ago...then I found Eudora, Pegasus, and other email programs...and now there is Thunderbird. Look 'em up....try 'em...

Subject: RE: BS: Hotmail trouble?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 29 Dec 04 - 09:23 AM

JiK, have you ever tried to get help from Yahoo?

The place must be full of them - Yahoos that is..

Subject: RE: BS: Hotmail trouble?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 29 Dec 04 - 09:18 AM

Telstra, where I worked, used to have a section like that too - they also sent all the drunks there too - or at least manufactured a ready supply - it was the Supply Section - to where I was sent... nuff said...

Subject: RE: BS: Hotmail trouble?
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 29 Dec 04 - 09:11 AM

While there are no specific answers, it is clear that both Hotmail and the "parent" MSN are having some serious problems.

Our MSN email account, which we have had since day 1 (charter members) was just transferred, without notice and without our agreement, from the original POP3 server to an http server. We had rather carefully preserved our POP3 connection on the recommendation from Microsoft Contract Administration that people doing business with them should use POP3. The change is NOT REVERSIBLE. So far as I know, all Hotmail accounts have been on http servers for as long as they have been around.

The difficulty with the transfer to http is that it only really works if you access your email using your web browser. While it has generally been possible to use a "real email" program - even one as crude as Outlook or Outlook Express, it's an "unsupported use" so far as both MSN and Hotmail are concerned. A recently posted notice at the Hotmail NoHelp button states that NO EMAIL CAN BE SENT FROM OUTLOOK OR OUTLOOK EXPRESS if you have a "new" Hotmail account. No definition of "new" is offered; but apparently "old" becomes "new" as soon as they can work their way back to you.

The "explanation" offered by Hotmail is that Outlook and OE actually work for sending out correspondence, and too many people use them to send spam, so they've decided to prohibit their use. As long as you use their "web interface" you're pretty much limited to "casual email." Their web interface prevents using any functional address book, so you either have to address each message separately, or if you define a "contact group" you must send the message to everyone in the group. (The stated limitation is 50 addresses on a single message. There is some evidence that sending the same message separately to more than 50 addresses, in separate messages to each, may cause them to block your sends.)

Since Messenger is an Outlook "extension" I would suspect that problems people are having with it may be related to MSN's and Hotmail's more or less complete conversion to http servers and blocking of Outlook by Hotmail, although I can't really confirm that relationship.

Although MSN does have "Microsoft" in it's ancestry, it appears to be only loosely associated with the rest of the company, hence the almost total lack of support for core Microsoft products. It appears to be kept as a place to send the excess village idiots to keep the home town from getting cluttered. Why else would the instruction "If you have a problem click the help button at the upper right hand corner of the screen" be accessible only after you click the Help button at the upper right hand corner of the screen? Or "If you are having problems with your email, please email our support group"?

John

Subject: RE: BS: Hotmail trouble?
From: GUEST,Peaches
Date: 29 Dec 04 - 07:36 AM

I'm loggin into my inbox, but the page is staying blank so I cannot see my e-mail messages. Can you please help me?

Subject: RE: BS: Hotmail trouble?
From: Shanghaiceltic
Date: 11 Nov 04 - 07:23 PM

I agree with Bill D. I got fed up with both Yahoo and Hotmail for my private e-mail so I switched to Fastmail. It is very very good and loads up quickly unlike Yahoo and Hotmail. Little or no pop up and as yet no spam.

Subject: RE: BS: Hotmail trouble?
From: Bill D
Date: 11 Nov 04 - 07:16 PM

if you can access it from OTHER computers, then it seems obvious that some setting is messed up on yours. Do you have to enter the password, or is it set to sign you in automatically? There is usually a place to change a password, or ask them to send you what they THINK your password is....

and I repeat what I said above..Hotmail has more problems than others.

Subject: RE: BS: Hotmail trouble?
From: GUEST,Shorty
Date: 11 Nov 04 - 07:08 PM

Can someone help me! I don't know very much technical stuff about my computer, but my MSN messenger and my homtail account, is saying that my password is invalid. But I'm definetally sure it isn't because I can access it through any other computer but mine. Is it something with my computer? What can i do? To do my college work, it's very important i get into my email! Can someone help me?

Subject: RE: BS: Hotmail trouble?
From: saulgoldie
Date: 28 Sep 04 - 09:22 PM

I am not getting through either, so I think it is something systematic. Go, Microsoft, go!

Subject: RE: BS: Hotmail trouble?
From: GUEST,Peter from Essex
Date: 28 Sep 04 - 06:11 PM

I have found Hotmail OK for the last couple of weeks. Before that "server busy" messages were coming up half the time.

Subject: RE: BS: Hotmail trouble?
From:
Date: 27 Sep 04 - 09:06 PM

Hi there, I can't log into my hotmail 09/26/04 the problem began. Has there been any other reports lately? How do I overcome this or is it Microsoft's problem? Thanks [e-mail]

Subject: RE: BS: Hotmail trouble?
From: Peace
Date: 18 Sep 04 - 04:44 PM

September 19, 2004

Microsoft trying to fix Hotmail problems

SEATTLE: Microsoft Corp. said on Friday that a "significant portion" of people who use the company's Hotmail e-mail system and other Internet-based products were having trouble accessing the services.

The company said it was an internal problem rather than an attack on its system and that it hoped to have service restored by 5:30 p.m. PST.

The problem began about 8:30 a.m. (11:30 EST).

In addition to Hotmail, the popular Web-based e-mail service, Microsoft said people were having trouble accessing products such as company's MSN Messenger instant messaging program.

Malina Bragg, a spokeswoman with Microsoft's Waggener Edstrom public relations firm, said in an e-mail that the company did not know how many people were having trouble but that "it appears to affect a significant portion of our customers."

Bragg said problem appeared to be affecting people who were trying to log on to the system. Those who were able to get on the system did not appear to be having problems sending and receiving e-mail, she said. —AP


This was found by a Google of

hotmail problems, fix

Subject: RE: BS: Hotmail trouble?
From: GUEST,Nancy
Date: 18 Sep 04 - 12:25 PM

Help!!!!!! I need to know how to fix the damn Messenger. It opens but I can't get to my email or contacts. I even tried directly with hot mail sign in but it still doesnt work. It keeps on telling me that I have a HTTP 400 Bad Request. I can open my other account hotmail but my main one

Please help.

I even tried to find a solution on MSN still cant find one.
Thank You
Nancy

Subject: RE: BS: Hotmail trouble?
From: Bill D
Date: 17 Sep 04 - 06:43 PM

tb...read the whole thread

Subject: RE: BS: Hotmail trouble?
From: Peace
Date: 17 Sep 04 - 04:11 PM

You give; hotmail takes.

Subject: RE: BS: Hotmail trouble?
From: GUEST,tb
Date: 17 Sep 04 - 03:54 PM

My hotmail is very unreliable. it takes days to send to another hotmail account!!! what gives?

Subject: RE: BS: Hotmail trouble?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 02:49 AM

Yahoo bought 'WebRing' and 'fiddled with it so much trying to 'give it the Yahoo interface to integrate it into the Yahoo stable of products' that they broke it terminally and could not fix it. They were just going to trash it, but were persuaded to give it away to some non-profit amateurs, who fixed it in a couple of weeks. However, they refused to transfer all the rings/people, everybody had to request to be transferred....

Subject: RE: BS: Hotmail trouble?
From: Bill D
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 11:11 AM

read my posts above...get a decent web mail host, then forward all your Hotmail and/or Yahoo mail to it...if you can get Hotmail to work long enough. (have you tried forwarding mail?)

I simply do not see why people keep using MicroSoft or Yahoo owned and controlled services when this keeps happening.

These big companies are trying to manipulate the software so that nothing works right unless you use ONLY their systems...and sometimes they screw up even their own in the attempt. It is not NECESSARY to depend on them...there are browsers and email systems and safeguards that function 99% free of these problems. I use IE about 3 times a year, when a site I need has some security system that MUST use ActiveX to work.

Please folks, do yourselves a favor and break out of this trap!

Subject: RE: BS: Hotmail trouble?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 05:26 AM

No clues sorry, - I use an ISP dialup with popmail for my email - Eudora & Mailwasher.

Robin

Subject: RE: BS: Hotmail trouble?
From: GUEST,slightcomb
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 02:23 AM

I can get to my inbox but can't delete messages or open the messages I have. I can see them, just can't read them!

I also hav e asimilar problem with yahoo, I can receive the email, open them, compose and send, but can't delete them.

This is driving me mad...can someone advise me on what I am doing wrong or can do

Subject: RE: BS: Hotmail trouble?
From: ddw
Date: 24 Jun 04 - 10:57 PM

I finally had to give up on Hotmail — it was just too unreliable. I had messages arrive as much as five days after they were sent to me and some of my outbound notes didn't reach where I sent them for up to 24 hours.

I switched to my Yahoo account and it worked well for a few days, then went strange if I'm working out of the Safari browser. If I use Internet Explorer, it seems to be OK.

I realize computer programmers have to eat too, but WHY THE HELL CAN'T THEY LEAVE THINGS ALONE THAT ARE WORKING JUST FINE????!!!!!!

They just did something similar at a bank I deal with. Their "more convenient" access to accounts takes three times as long because they give you way more information than you want.

Aaaarrrrrrrrrggggggggghhhh!


cheers,

david

Subject: RE: BS: Hotmail trouble?
From: GUEST,sunderlint
Date: 24 Jun 04 - 08:07 PM

I can get to my inbox but can't delete messages or open the messages I have. I can see them, just can't read em!

Subject: RE: BS: Hotmail trouble?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 15 Jun 04 - 09:36 AM

They could be getting DOSed...

Subject: RE: BS: Hotmail trouble?
From: Mr Red
Date: 14 Jun 04 - 07:16 PM

I came here because my e-mail is slow (UK2.net) - I am accessing on the web. There is something they are not telling us.

Subject: RE: BS: Hotmail trouble?
From: GUEST,shirley12055
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 08:11 PM

I have no problem using yahoo mail that is what I have to use to send stuff. It is hotmail that am having problems I get e-mail just can't send or reply it won't load or send.

Subject: RE: BS: Hotmail trouble?
From: Cruiser
Date: 12 Jun 04 - 05:59 PM

Over the last several weeks I had trouble e-mailing to one Hotmail account when I used Yahoo mail. The party at Hotmail did not receive most of my messages but I got all of his. He thought it had something to do with Spam filters. I used another account (not Yahoo) and it worked okay.

Good luck...

Subject: RE: BS: Hotmail trouble?
From: GUEST,shirley12055
Date: 12 Jun 04 - 01:18 PM

I am receiving e-mail just fine. I just can't seem to send anything or reply it won't load it so I can send it. Is anyone else having this problem with hotmail?

Subject: RE: BS: Hotmail trouble?
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 24 May 04 - 05:57 AM

Apparently it can be something to do with the cookies on your own comp...I had problems and have been advised what to do but it seems to make little difference. Suggest you make contact with MSN anyway. Be Blessed

Subject: Trouble downloading attachments from Hotmail
From: GUEST,James
Date: 23 May 04 - 06:57 PM

Anyone else having that trouble?

Subject: RE: BS: Hotmail trouble?
From: ddw
Date: 03 May 04 - 11:57 AM

Mine seems to have cleared up this morning, but when I came down the computer I found eight messages that were sent between 11 p.m. and midnight last night.

I think Mack/Misophist has something about Hotmail having major server problems.

Thanks, all. At least I know it's not all my problem.

cheers,

david

Subject: RE: BS: Hotmail trouble?
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 03 May 04 - 02:55 AM

Yep, it's been happening to me - sent messages taking up to 24 hours to arrive. Got a message from Hotmail to say they were delayed, but no explanation as to why.

Subject: RE: BS: Hotmail trouble?
From: Amergin
Date: 03 May 04 - 02:40 AM

I use hotmail... you can filter the spam out alot easier than other services I use....but it is not my private address anyways.

Subject: RE: BS: Hotmail trouble?
From: Bill D
Date: 03 May 04 - 12:21 AM

I had a Hotmail account once a long time ago...it did fine until they sold it to Micro$oft ...within a week it was full of SPAM....I won't go NEAR Hotmail now....there are too many good free mail programs...

try http://www.fastmail.fm/ for good service. There are others...

Subject: RE: BS: Hotmail trouble?
From: Amos
Date: 02 May 04 - 11:18 PM

With a massive free public service system like Hotmail you can expect anything in the way of random interrupts, and usually it happens.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Hotmail trouble?
From: Amergin
Date: 02 May 04 - 10:34 PM

That is usually a server issue with MSN. When i was working for them we had that crop up from time to time....unfortunately there wasn't much we could do except escalate to the NOC.

Subject: RE: BS: Hotmail trouble?
From: Janie
Date: 02 May 04 - 09:57 PM

Haven't had any delays, but my sis tells me that my last e-mail to her was gobblygook, and several times this weekend I have gotten a message that the servers are too busy when I have tried to check my hotmail account for messages.

Janie

Subject: RE: BS: Hotmail trouble?
From: mack/misophist
Date: 02 May 04 - 08:06 PM

This sort of thing is possible but it should be rare. It sounds like hotmail is having a LOT of trouble with their servers.

Subject: BS: Hotmail trouble?
From: ddw
Date: 02 May 04 - 12:23 PM

I'm just wondering if any other Hotmail users are having problems similar to mine, or is something going on in my ISP? I am getting messages as much as 48 hours after they are sent. Some come through immediately, but others go walkabout in cyber space for periods ranging from minutes to days.

Is anybody else having this problem?

cheers,

david