Music Time Travel

Subject: Music Time Travel
From: GUEST,Tunesmith
Date: 02 May 04 - 03:15 PM

If you could ravel back to a "Music" place in time, where would it be? In a general "folkie" area, I would have liked to have been in New York in the early-sixties with the explosion of interest in all folkie forms, and to have seen the newly rediscovered pre-war masters - Son House, Mississippi John, Doc Boggs etc. In a wider musicall area, I would have loved to have seen Django in Paris in the 1930s, and Lizst and Chopin in the Paris of the 1830s.

Subject: RE: Music Time Travel
From: Gern
Date: 02 May 04 - 04:43 PM

Sorry to miss hearing Buddy Bolden play trumpet in New Orleans at the turn of the century

Subject: RE: Music Time Travel
From: Once Famous
Date: 02 May 04 - 04:49 PM

1948 and the few years afterwards with Flatt & Scruggs in Bill Monroe's band, considered the best if not the protypical bluegrass band of them all.

Subject: RE: Music Time Travel
From: michaelr
Date: 02 May 04 - 05:00 PM

I would have loved to be in Ireland during the heyday of groups like Planxty, The Bothy Band and Moving Hearts.

Cheers,
Michael

Subject: RE: Music Time Travel
From: GUEST,Tunesmith
Date: 02 May 04 - 05:04 PM

I mentioned this on another thread but, anyway, I was in Liverpool, and a teenager, when The Merseybeat/Beatles thing exploded; however, although it was an exciting, vibrant time, musically my head wasn't there.

Subject: RE: Music Time Travel
From: GUEST,Rev
Date: 02 May 04 - 05:11 PM

I'd love to be in Memphis in the 1930's to hear all the jug bands like Cannon's Jug Stompers. Or, in a more rocking vein, London circa 1965-66 to go to clubs like UFO and see the all-night shows with The Who, Pink Floyd (with Syd Barrett), and the Jimi Hengrix Experience.
Rev

Subject: RE: Music Time Travel
From: wysiwyg
Date: 02 May 04 - 05:16 PM

Camp meetings, underground railroad, and abolition.

Early Hebrew worship-- hearing the psalms sung when they were new.

~Susan

Subject: RE: Music Time Travel
From: GUEST,Pete Peterson
Date: 02 May 04 - 08:08 PM

Bristol TN/VA toward the end of July 1927. . .

Subject: RE: Music Time Travel
From: Amos
Date: 02 May 04 - 09:56 PM

Christopher Street and Washington Square in 1959-60-63. Maybe Chicago during the same timeframe too!

A

Subject: RE: Music Time Travel
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 03 May 04 - 02:43 AM

I would travel as far to the future as I could. Because then I could listen to all the music that has been written, from the past and all the way to that future time.

Were I to leave now
there's nothing more I would regret:
Not hearing those songs
that nobody has written yet.
The notes that haven's been collected into tunes
still waiting out there like the sand among the dunes.
Were I to leave now
music I'd like to take with me.

Subject: RE: Music Time Travel
From: Art Thieme
Date: 03 May 04 - 06:08 PM

Amos,

I agree that the 60s in New York and Chicago was a mesmerizing place to be. I was there---and it still sustains me now that I cannot be there.

There is a photo of ol' Art playing/jamming in Washington Square with the arch in the background. I had a Kodak Brownie camera then. Black and white film. I handed the camera to a fellow (a stranger) with instructions for him to get a shot of me with the arch in it. When I had those developed a few months later I found that the only shot with me picking in it only showed my back. But it is up on the website.

Art Thieme

Subject: RE: Music Time Travel
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 04 May 04 - 04:47 PM

Chorlton Folk Club, last week, Mark and Clive of the Lonesome and Peniless Cowboys

Subject: RE: Music Time Travel
From: Joe_F
Date: 04 May 04 - 04:52 PM

1940. Not for what I would hear, but for what I wouldn't hear any more.

Subject: RE: Music Time Travel
From: fat B****rd
Date: 04 May 04 - 05:42 PM

Amongst many the Jazz at Massey Hall concert with Parker, Gillespie, Bud Powell, Max Roach and Mingus.

Subject: RE: Music Time Travel
From: GUEST,Mary Humphreys
Date: 04 May 04 - 06:23 PM

I'd want to be in Hambridge or Langport, Somerset in 1903 onwards, to hear Mrs Emma Overd and the sisters Louisa Hooper and Lucy White singing. There is so little on record from these prodigious singers. I was torn bwetween this location and Brigg, where Joseph Taylor and other amazing Lincolnshire singers took part in singing competitions. I suppose I could ask for a train ticket and a bicycle ....and an Edison cylinder phonograph to record it all....
Mary

Subject: RE: Music Time Travel
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 04 May 04 - 06:49 PM

Susan, I understand about wanting to hear the psalms "when they were new". But the question is, when was that?

I can't say much about the other psalms, but the GREAT one, the 23rd, goes back, in almost the same words, to early Egyptian history. So you need to be careful how you set your time machine.

Dave Oesterreich

Subject: RE: Music Time Travel
From: mg
Date: 04 May 04 - 09:10 PM

I would like to hear the songs the Irish sang, particularly my ancestors, before and during the famine. mg

Subject: RE: Music Time Travel
From: GUEST
Date: 05 May 04 - 08:14 AM

Definitely the 1960's. Actually, I was there but I don't remember it.

Subject: RE: Music Time Travel
From: RangerSteve
Date: 05 May 04 - 09:14 AM

I'd go back to the 20's and 30's. The record companies back then assumed that traditional music only existed in the southern US. I'd start my own company and record musicians north of the Mason-Dixon line.

Subject: RE: Music Time Travel
From: GUEST,Lindswidder
Date: 05 May 04 - 09:30 AM

I'd be with George Butterworth in April 1912 when he came to Bicester for Cecil Sharp, to collect remnants of Morris Dancing. Through the Diary he kept at the time I have re-traced his steps on many occasions. I'd have met the Bucknell musician Joe Powell, whose Pipe and Tabor I was privileged to borrow and record in the late 1980s

Subject: RE: Music Time Travel
From: Bill D
Date: 05 May 04 - 01:41 PM

Samuel Pepys diary has an entry about hearing the "pleasant little song of Green Sleeves" at a theater...that would be nice to have heard!

But I'd really like to have lived down the road from Jeannie Robertson and watched how she developed her repetoire.

Subject: RE: Music Time Travel
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 05 May 04 - 02:14 PM

How about campfires on the East Coast of Africa as we started the long journey out of Africa or some where in Arizona some years later in the same journey?

What about Mesopotamia just after they had discovered how to make beer?

Subject: RE: Music Time Travel
From: Wilfried Schaum
Date: 06 May 04 - 03:24 AM

I'm living in the right times. I've heard and seen the great Segovia playing his guitar.

Subject: Techie stuff!
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 06 May 04 - 04:03 AM

Of course, there's a bit of a problem with time-travel ... everybody knows of the paradox where you go back in time and kil your father or grandfather: what hapens then? You no longer exist, so you can't have killed him; but then you will exist again ...

To preserve causality (a nice bit of jargon for you), we have to invoke parallel universes. When you materialise in the past, you create a parallel universe; the old original universe is unchanged, and the new one is where the changes take place. So in the old universe, you and your father still exist, while in the new one you exist but he doesn't. And when you return to your own time, you create a second new parallel universe from the first new universe. Still with me?

This is why we never see time-travellers, assuming there are any: we are all still in the original universe, while they are in new ones. Note that this also means that when you say "ta-ta" to your time-travelling friend, it's forever: you'll never see him/her again, because he/she will end up in a different universe.

Steve

Subject: RE: Music Time Travel
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 06 May 04 - 04:27 AM

I'd like to go back about 35 years and listen to the songs my grandparents sang.... maybe this time, I'd get them to write them down. It's wierd, but every so often I get a phrase stuck in my head in my granfers' voice but can never find which song it comes from.

He was a farmer in a small village on the coast, so sang a mixture of traditional 'lover', fishing songs and several that were peculiar to the county. I'd also ask my grandmother about the Garland Day celebrations every May, which were very strong in 1920 (when she was 11) but were practically gone 60 years later.

LTS

Subject: RE: Music Time Travel
From: GUEST,Boab
Date: 06 May 04 - 05:03 AM

Last night in a local bar playing, singing and listening to Barret's Privateers, the Greenland whale Fisheries, Bonnie Ship the Diamond, Lambs on the Green Hills, Raglan Road, General Taylor, Broom on the Cowden Knowes, Come by the Hills, Lass o' Fyvie,Early One Morning, the Dawning of the Day and, Och! --we had a great session, and the beer was fair grand!

Subject: RE: Music Time Travel
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 06 May 04 - 05:43 AM

I was living in London for most of the 60's and did go to the all-night shows with The Who, Pink Floyd (with Syd Barrett), and the Jimi Hendrix Experience. I was also into the early folk revival - knew Carthy years before his first solo record - went to the early Keele and Sidmouth Festivals as well as Towersey long before the first festival.

I did miss some of the London scene - I had to work on a ten month contract in the US - San Francisco - just as flower-power was at it's peak. And I also did a stint in Dublin (before they blew up "Nelson's Pillar") - it was still "The Rare old Times" - I used to sit on the door collecting money at the "Abbey Tavern" where the Dubliners were residents. I finished the 60's working up on Teeside (which had a marvellous folk scene) at clubs with people like Vin Garbutt and Ron Angel, The High Level Ranters, Louis Killen etc.

Perhaps I (or mostly luck) got some things right in my life !

Subject: RE: Music Time Travel
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 06 May 04 - 09:22 AM

I'd like to go back to hear if Buddy Bolden was as good (and loud) as they say he was, to hear the Armstrong Hot 5 live, to meet Robert Johnson at the Crossroads...visit Fred & Annie Mae McDowell on the farm...

RtS

Subject: RE: Music Time Travel
From: LindsayInWales
Date: 06 May 04 - 10:27 AM

back to LTS's comment of phrases of songs heard when small, we had a family friend with the most beautiful bass voice (a real chapel-man he was!) and I remember two songs he used to sing me when I was small, but only a line from each one:

a: "grow little mushroom grow"

b: "And I was in it, fairly in it,
    I was in it, for it's just my luck"

does anyone know either of these songs?

Subject: RE: Music Time Travel
From: Midchuck
Date: 06 May 04 - 10:39 AM

I'd like to be back in the Cambridge, Mass., folk scene in '64; '65.

I was there the first time, but I'd like to do it again without the damned Law School classes to get up in the morning for!

Peter.

Subject: RE: Music Time Travel
From: Pied Piper
Date: 06 May 04 - 10:45 AM

A lot of Folk clubs function like time machines, just step through the door and you in the 60s.

Subject: RE: Music Time Travel
From: Lepus Rex
Date: 06 May 04 - 05:51 PM

God, I fantasise about this all the time, and my answer changes every other week... Right now, I'd probably want to go back (with video and audio recording devices) to the third century, to wander around what is now southwestern China. Of course, I'd probably be killed on sight by the locals, or die of gangrene after stubbing my toe, but it'd be worth it. :)

---Lepus Rex

Subject: RE: Music Time Travel
From: GUEST,Pete Peterson
Date: 06 May 04 - 05:51 PM

Not the ones I go to. . . set up your tent and you're somewhere in Carroll County VA in 1927, or Spray NC about the same time. . . or wandering around looking for A Corn Liquor Still in Georgia. Anybody going to Clifftop this year?

Subject: RE: Music Time Travel
From: Art Thieme
Date: 06 May 04 - 09:51 PM

As I'm fond of saying, "If it wasn't for time, we'd have to do everything all at once."

And you may quote me!!

Art

Subject: RE: Music Time Travel
From: ranger1
Date: 06 May 04 - 10:01 PM

I'd like to go back to the first two decades of the last century and be a fly on the wall at some of the barn dances my great-uncle and grampa played at. My uncle, Napoleon (Paulie for short), played fiddle and my grampa sang. I do, however, have the ability to sort of go back in time. A folklorist at the University of Vermont interviewed my grampa in 1981, the year before he died. My cousin gave us copies of the tapes a few years ago. It's been fun listening to them and singin along, like I used to do when I was a really little kid. I have Paulie's fiddle and am going to start lessons this summer.

Subject: RE: Music Time Travel
From: beetle cat
Date: 06 May 04 - 10:14 PM

I'd go back and be a sailor, on the tall ships in their prime years. Ever since I was a kid, thats been my dream. The songs bring back a bit of that fealing, I think, you know, transport you to a different age, but there is always somthing missing, some little piece of history that not even the best modern shantyman can portray, having not been there when the songs were written. too much has changed. Anyway, I'd like to live that life, and see what the songs are really all about.
-Mary.

Subject: RE: Music Time Travel
From: GUEST,Augie
Date: 06 May 04 - 10:16 PM

The Earl and other Lincoln Ave haunts of 1970's Chicago to hear Steve Goodman andJethro Burns just one more time