Black Country Men

Subject: RE: Black Country Men
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 01 Jun 23 - 11:33 AM

Looks like I got that wrong. I'm sure it was a well-known 60's band. Someone will tell me.

Subject: RE: Black Country Men
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 01 Jun 23 - 10:20 AM

I used to know them reasonably well. I got them their first gig in London. Was it John that was in a 60's beat group 'The Undertakers'?

Subject: RE: Black Country Men
From: GUEST,Luke Stretton
Date: 01 Jun 23 - 07:44 AM

My grandad was John Stretton of the Black Country Men. He sadly died in or around 2004 I think. My dad has his old electric and acoustic guitars at home, and I think he might have a few of their old records too

Subject: RE: Black Country Men
From: Mr Red
Date: 24 Feb 19 - 02:58 AM

The Black country is an area to the west of Birmingham

Wedgebury & Darlo aye west much owr kid, nearer north ard say - mah mon.


Samuel Johnson declared the area was black by day and red by night from the foundries. So not a reference to the coal mines.

No Saddlers supporters? Thought not. Und wot abart Darlaston Amaters? At the City (ar City) grahrnd?

Subject: RE: Black Country Men
From: GUEST,Paul
Date: 23 Feb 19 - 04:52 AM

I went to a narrow boat rally in the 70's. BCM were the entertainment on the night. They did a great song called Punk Folk. Brilliant.

Subject: RE: Black Country Men
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Feb 14 - 05:43 PM

Hi im still here
See www.paul-darby.co.uk
I did folk cd with band called bulldog
And about to do solo cd
All good things
Paul Darby

Subject: RE: Black Country Men
From: GUEST,paul darby
Date: 16 Sep 12 - 06:14 PM

I am paul darby member of bcm, went on to form band called british bulldog
Made cd called geoffrey goes to pieces. Am about
To record a solo cd. Went onto tv fame as the feng shui docot
See website www.fengshuidoctor. co.uk
Can be reached at. [e-mail]

Subject: RE: Black Country Men
From: GUEST,paul darby of the blackcountrymen
Date: 14 Jan 09 - 09:47 AM

hi there--
went on to form a new band called bulldog--and recorded a tape called
'geoffrey goes to pieces'--all good things,
paul darby
[e-mail]

Subject: RE: Black Country Men
From: Rasener
Date: 23 Nov 07 - 08:29 AM

Do you want Davies back :-)

Subject: RE: Black Country Men
From: Trevor
Date: 23 Nov 07 - 07:13 AM

BAGGIES of course! BOING! Slapadingle!

Subject: RE: Black Country Men
From: Rasener
Date: 19 Nov 07 - 09:37 AM

Mind you, having said that WYSIWYG there is this.

http://www.sedgleymanor.com/dictionaries/dialect.html

Subject: RE: Black Country Men
From: Rasener
Date: 19 Nov 07 - 09:29 AM

Trevor. I agree the accents aren't that strong. I suppose the BBC have picked on people who can speak in a more clear accent.
I remember playing a cricket team in the middle of the black country and I couldn't understand a word they said.

Fraid not WYSIWYG, they don't want you to understand. A bit like the Welsh :-)

Subject: RE: Black Country Men
From: wysiwyg
Date: 19 Nov 07 - 08:44 AM

No Black-country - to - "Regular" converter so I can understand THEM? :~)


~S~

Subject: RE: Black Country Men
From: Trevor
Date: 19 Nov 07 - 08:26 AM

I've got to say, I don't think the accents in the clips are particularly strong. I come from Smethwick originally, on the edge of the Black Country (it was in Staffordshire when I was a kid so I'm proud to call myself a Yammer) - my nan was incomprehensible when she was annoyed. I remember her telling me to 'shurrup, yowve gorra vice lark a gratin under a dower'.

Subject: RE: Black Country Men
From: Rasener
Date: 19 Nov 07 - 08:10 AM

Just as well you have to talk in normal English on here, Trevor :-)

Am Black Countryites Baggies or Wolves supporters?

Can ar have a pound of black pudding our eynoch, please?

Subject: RE: Black Country Men
From: Trevor
Date: 19 Nov 07 - 07:51 AM

An there's a few of us on the 'cat annall.

Subject: RE: Black Country Men
From: Rasener
Date: 19 Nov 07 - 03:20 AM

Here is a link to explain a bit about the Black Country
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blackcountry/uncovered/walk_through_time/index.shtml

Her is a link, that allows you to type a question as you would say it, and you then convert it into black country lingo.
Black Country converter

Finally here is a link, that lets you listen to people talking from the Black Country.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blackcountry/voices2005/dudley/index.shtml#bb2

Subject: RE: Black Country Men
From: Gillie
Date: 18 Nov 07 - 04:57 PM

Eh up there Phil, sounds good, if possible I'd like some copies please. Lived in the Blank Country for a while, and got used to the accent. The thing is to watch the lips!!!

Phil if you were to join mudcat I will e-mail my address.

Cheers,

Gillie

If yam dafft enouf ti come dorwn ere, while gan yas for yor tie.....

Subject: RE: Black Country Men
From: Rasener
Date: 18 Nov 07 - 01:56 PM

You can't even understand them, even if you are a Brummie like me. :-)

In actual fact it is the oldest dialect in the English Language.

Subject: RE: Black Country Men
From: Azizi
Date: 18 Nov 07 - 01:39 PM

Thanks for that information, Villan.

I appreciate it.

And re the funny accent, I imagine that folks in the Black country think that others' dialects are funny and not theirs. :o)

Subject: RE: Black Country Men
From: Rasener
Date: 18 Nov 07 - 01:16 PM

The Black country is an area tothe west of Birmingham in England UK and they talk a funny dialect that you can't understand.

Black Country map

Here is one of the best pubs in the Black Country.

The Crooked House

Subject: RE: Black Country Men
From: Azizi
Date: 18 Nov 07 - 01:06 PM

Somewhat off topic, but with all due respect, would someone please provide information about the location of the "Black country".

I'm assuming that as used in this thread "Black country" refers to a region in England, but I'm not certain about this.

Thank you.

Subject: RE: Black Country Men
From: The Vulgar Boatman
Date: 18 Nov 07 - 07:39 AM

Many thanks.
C

Subject: RE: Black Country Men
From: Rasener
Date: 18 Nov 07 - 03:58 AM

Black Country Sayings

Subject: RE: Black Country Men
From: GUEST,Dave Leeson
Date: 17 Nov 07 - 07:36 PM

Vulgar Boatman,

certainly can !

'Ommer 'Um Cradley' was the shout around the Cradley Heath speedway track based on the chainmaking history of Cradley and environs.

'Hammer Them Cradley' is the translation !

Yours in BlackCountry,

Dave.

Subject: RE: Black Country Men
From: Leadfingers
Date: 17 Nov 07 - 07:02 PM

Mr Leeson - Be wary of posting E mail address as Spammers can find you and fill your InBox with Crap . And IF you join Mudcat , personal messages are free , as is membership !

Subject: RE: Black Country Men
From: The Vulgar Boatman
Date: 17 Nov 07 - 05:14 PM

Dave, a friend of mine has "Ommer um Cradley" emblazoned on a water can on his boat - never asked before as I thought it was to do with the fact that he was a smith. I can think of a number of possible explanations but please could you enlighten me?

Subject: RE: Black Country Men
From: GUEST,Dave Leeson
Date: 15 Nov 07 - 06:08 PM

Hi !

Anybody still out there?

Love to hear from you if so.

[e-mail]

'Ommer Um Cradley !

Dave.

Subject: RE: Black Country Men
From: GUEST,Phil Glover
Date: 08 Feb 06 - 03:50 PM

I saw the Black Country Men at a pub in the Black Country as entertainers at a CAMRA bash.

They were an excellent group, and I made an impulse-buy of their cassette tape called "Fustun"*.

I've hardly dared play the tape in case it got chewed up, but I'm now trying to copy it to MP3 files.

I'm not sure what copyright applies to the songs, so I may be unable to copy it for others.

Any feedback/advice welcome!

Regards,

Phil Glover.

*Tracks include:

Song of the Black Country Men
The Perry Croft Bull Bait
Arthur McBride
Slapbum Tailor
Roses of Eyam
Spotted Cow
Y Viva Morris
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Punk Folkers
Can't Find Brummagem
Gornal Nailmakers Carol
Cuckoo's Nest
July Wakes
Cradley Heath Song
John O'Dreams

Subject: RE: Black Country Men
From: GUEST,Sue Stevens
Date: 19 Apr 05 - 10:12 AM

I was a regular at The Struggling Man Folk Club and knew all The Blackcountry men very well, we used to hang out at Bromyard together every year. They split up early 80's. I met John Stretton at Upton a couple of years ago and invited him to my club (The Lighthouse FC), but he told me he had sold all his instruments and no longer played. First Time Out was their only Album and I don't believe they have recorded anything individually. What a pity!

Sue Stevens

Subject: RE: Black Country Men
From: RWJ
Date: 10 May 04 - 04:13 PM

Some one out there must know them

Subject: RE: Black Country Men
From: RWJ
Date: 08 May 04 - 04:04 PM

The Black country men ran a club in Dudley in the 70tis at the stugling munky , the club went by the name "the stugling man" . I think they split earley 80s . The only reording I know was "fust un" The names i think are ok .Lost track of the a long time back . I woud like to meet up wihh them again , good memories .
Ron

Subject: RE: Black Country Men
From: Lancashire Lad
Date: 08 May 04 - 11:20 AM

No info anywhere?
LL

Subject: Black Country Men
From: Lancashire Lad
Date: 04 May 04 - 02:51 AM

Hi All
Can anyone give me any background on a group called The Blackcountrymen (NOT Black Country Three). Their line up was Paul Darby, Dave Leeson and John Stretton and I know they made an LP in the 70s called First Time Out.

Does anyone know if they released anything else as a group or individually?

LL