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Whaling song -children

Jen M 06 May 04 - 06:02 PM
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LindsayInWales 06 May 04 - 07:32 PM
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Subject: Whaling song -children
From: Jen M
Date: 06 May 04 - 06:02 PM

I've been asked by our school's music teacher to come up with a song for the fourth grade(10 yrs old) to sing at their concert. We'd like a tie to the curriculum and since we visit Mystic seaport and learn a bit about whaling I thought a chantey would be good. Unfortunately, chanteys were not originally sung by children, any suggestions that might not upset the parents?


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Subject: RE: Whaling song -children
From: MartinRyan
Date: 06 May 04 - 06:52 PM

Many years ago, my two children slept in bunks, one atop the other. One of their favourite songs from me when (allegedly) going to sleep, was "The Greenland Whale Fishery". They used to climb to the top bunk to spot the whale with a telescope, harpoon him from the lower bunk and fall out onto the floor to drown! There's at least one version in the Digital Tradition - we used the Watersons', which is my favourite.

Regards


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE GREENLAND WHALE FISHERIES
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 06 May 04 - 07:04 PM

^^^ In eighteen hundred and forty six,
On June the thirteenth day.
Our gallant ship, her anchor aweigh, and for Greenland bore away,
brave boys, and for Greenland bore away.

Well the lookout in the crustrey stood,
with a spyglass in his hand.
There's a whale, a whale,there's a whalefish he cried,
And she blows at every span, brave boys,and she blows at every span.

Our Captain, he stood on the quarterdeck,
And a fine little man was he.
Overhaul, overhaul, let your davit tackles fall,
And launch your boats for sea,
brave boys, and launch your boats for sea.

Well, we struck that whale and the line gave out,
And she gave a flourish with her tail.
The boat capsised, and we lost four men,
And we never catched that whale,
brave boys, and we never catched that whale.

To lose the men our Captain he said,
Well it grieved his heart full sore.
But Oh to lose such a fine big whale,
Well it grieved him ten times more,
brave boys, well it grieved him ten times more.

Now Greenland is a dreadful place,
It's a place that's never green.
Where there's ice and snow and the whale fishes blow,
And the daylights seldom seen,
brave boys, and the daylights seldom seen

This is called the "Greenland whale fisheries" if it is of any use... I am sure if you surf the web you will get the tune for it...Be Blessed


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Subject: RE: Whaling song -children
From: Les from Hull
Date: 06 May 04 - 07:09 PM

Sounds like a good choice - a forebitter (song) rather than a work song. Don't know about 1846, though. Not many whales left by then, but the whaling fleet was still looking for 'em. The loss of the whale being worse than the men is supposed to be a later 'folk club' alteration. Fine song - good choice, shipmates!


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Subject: RE: Whaling song -children
From: Joe Offer
Date: 06 May 04 - 07:20 PM

Well, it might be too tame even for fourth grade, but I like Yeah Ho, Little Fish.
Good luck.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Whaling song -children
From: LindsayInWales
Date: 06 May 04 - 07:32 PM

why hasn't anyone suggested "What Shall We Do With The Drunken Sailor" - I sung it in Primary School in the 50s without even being curious about what "Drunken" or "Sober" actually meant...


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Subject: RE: Whaling song -children
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 06 May 04 - 07:46 PM

There was a thread some time ago in which it turned out that American parents objected quite strongly to their children singing about drunken sailors. Than one may not be a runner. A more accurate transcription of the above set of Greenland Whale Fishery is already in the DT, with tune.


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE WHALE (from S. Baring-Gould, 1895)
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 06 May 04 - 07:51 PM

Found this while looking through S. Baring-Gould, 1895, "A Book of Nursery Songs and Rhymes" (Note- not all nursery rhymes- wives cutting throats, etc.).

THE WHALE

The whale, the whale, and now must we sing,
The ocean's pride and the fishes' king.
He is the vast and the mighty thing,
Sailing along in the deep blue sea.

Down to the bottom sometimes he goes,
Then up to the surface again for blows,
And when he is done then off goes he,
Sailing along in the deep blue sea.

In northern climes where it is very cold,
This fish is found, as I've been told,
And there will sport in his mighty glee,
Sailing along in the deep blue sea.

'Tis a dangerous thing in catching the whale,
He'll toss o'er the boat with a flick of his tail,
And when he's done so, off goes he,
Sailing along in the deep blue sea.

No comments in the text.
Book avialable as PDF file here (click)


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Subject: RE: Whaling song -children
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 06 May 04 - 07:56 PM

One comment on "The Whale" at the end of the book- "Taken down from a Devonshire Nurse."


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Subject: RE: Whaling song -children
From: LindsayInWales
Date: 06 May 04 - 08:23 PM

LOL I don't suppose any Devonshure nurses should be taken down....


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Subject: RE: Whaling song -children
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 06 May 04 - 09:10 PM

You're right about that. My paternal grandmother was a Devonshire nurse, as it happens (by "nurse", Baring-Gould meant a woman in domestic service looking after children) and a formidable woman by all accounts.


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Subject: RE: Whaling song -children
From: Fred Miller
Date: 06 May 04 - 11:45 PM

FUN WITH SLIPKNOTS!
Hey kids! Tying slipknots is fun, and easy to do. Just get a piece of rope or string to tie your first one. Got it? Okay! Now, if you ever worked on a 19th century whaling ship, just tie it like you'd tie off your first harpoon so the whale doesn't dive and pull you down and drown you. There you go!

Next week Mr. Stubb shows us how to keep our tobacco pipes lit when we're out in the salty spray.


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Subject: RE: Whaling song -children
From: Margret RoadKnight
Date: 07 May 04 - 12:01 AM

Malvina Reynolds' THE WHALE
("The whale, the whale, the citizen of the sea
He sings his sonic song, and so does she
He finds his mating ground, till the whaler tracks him down
Every quarter hour, they say, one great whale is done away
Done away...."


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Subject: RE: Whaling song -children
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 07 May 04 - 12:11 AM

I dunno. One of my kids' favorites, from age four upwards, was South Australia. Followed closely by (a slightly disinfected) Blow the Man Down, and Donkey Riding.


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Subject: Lyr Add: JOHN KANAKANAKA
From: AnneMC
Date: 07 May 04 - 05:36 AM

I am currently teaching my 7-8 year ol dstudents "John Kananaka",an old whaling song, and they absolutely love it.
                                
John Kanakanaka
                                 - An "a capella" or minimal accompaniment whaling song

I thought I heard the old man say,
John Kanakanaka too ri ay.
Tomorrow is our sailing day,
John Kanakanaka too ri ay.
Too ri ay, oh too ri ay,
John Kanakanaka too ri ay

I thought I heard the bo'sun say
John Kanakanaka too ri ay.
There's work tomorrow but no work today,
John Kanakanaka too ri ay.
Too ri ay, oh too ri ay,
John Kanakanaka too ri ay.

The bo'son says before I'm through,
John Kanakanaka too ri ay.
You'll hate your mother for having you,
John Kanakanaka too ri ay.
Too ri ay, oh too ri ay,
John Kanakanaka too ri ay.

There's rotten meat and weevily bread,
John Kanakanaka too ri ay.
It's pump or drown the old man said,
John Kanakanaka too ri ay.
Too ri ay, oh too ri ay,
John Kanakanaka too ri ay.

She would not steer and she would not stay,
John Kanakanaka too ri ay.
She shipped the water night and day,
John Kanakanaka too ri ay.
Too ri ay, oh too ri ay,
John Kanakanaka too ri ay.

It's one more pull and that will do,
John Kanakanaka too ri ay.
For we're the bullies to pull her through,
John Kanakanaka too ri ay.
Too ri ay, oh too ri ay,
John Kanakanaka too ri ay.


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Subject: Lyr/Chords Add: THE MERMAID
From: AnneMC
Date: 07 May 04 - 05:41 AM

Have found another one , also loved by children. Have a feeling the chords will end up askew, contact me if you need them .

                                       The Mermaid                                                             
Traditional. Arrangement by the Pog Band
                              G                        C          G
VERSE 1:         It was Friday night and we set sail
                                     C             D7                G                                       
                     And we were not far from the land
                                                                         C          G         
                    When our Captain he spied a mermaid so fair
                               C                D7             G                        
                   With a comb and a glass in her hand
               
CHORUS: And the ocean waves do roll
                                                            D7
                    And the stormy winds do blow
                         G                               C               G
                    And we poor sailors are skipping up aloft
                                     C                  D7             G         
                   While the landlubbers lie down below, below, below
                                     C                D7               G
                    While the landlubbers lie down below   

                                 G                               C                   G
VERSE 2:        Then up spoke the Captain of our gallant ship
                           C          D7         G                                       
                And a fine old man was he. He said,
                                                                                        G               
                    "This fishy mermaid has warned me of our doom   
                                  C                D7                   G                                       
                We shall sink to the bottom of the sea."
                                G                            C                     G
VERSE 3:        Then up spoke the mate of our gallant ship
                           C                D7         G                                       
                And a fine spoken man was he. He said,
                                              C                         G
                   "I have a wife in Brooklyn by the sea,
                               C                   D7               G                                    
                But tonight she'll be weepin' for me."
                                                
                                  INSTRUMENTAL BREAK
                            G                                  C                     G
VERSE 4:        Then up spoke the Cabin Boy of our gallant ship
                           C             D7         G                                    
                And a fine young lad was he. He said,
                                                            C                   G            
                   "I have a sweetheart in Salem by the sea,
                                C                      D7             G               
                    But tonight she'll be weepin' for me."
                                                
                                 G                            C                   G
VERSE 5:    Then up spoke the Cook of our gallant ship
                           C             D7                G                                    
                And a crazy old butcher was he. He said,
                                                               C                G      
                   "I care much more for my pots and my pans
                               C               D7                   G                        
                    Than I do for the bottom of the sea."
                                                   
                           G                                  C                        G
VERSE 6:        Three times around spun our gallant ship
                     C                      D7             G            
                    Three times around spun she. ( Oi ! Oi ! Oi ! )
                                                         C                              G                                       
                Three times around spun our gallant ship
                        C                  D7                   G                                    
                Then she sank to the bottom of the sea.


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Subject: RE: Whaling song -children
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 07 May 04 - 05:56 AM

Fourth grade is an ideal age for songs of the sea. I often conclude my school year with a sea chantey and song unit. We sing:

Away Rio (last year's 4th grade voted it their favorite song if the year!)
Cape Cod Girls
John Kanaka
Drunken Sailor (WE talk about the problems of alcohol, but we sing it like it is!)
When I was a fair maid (ok, not a chantey, nor likely a forebiter song, but it's the only "lass at sea" song I know...)
Rolling Home
Leave Her, Johnny

It's a great way to end the school year. I only wish we lived closer to Mystic and could get the kids there, too.

Jen, Please let us know what song you choose!

Allison


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Subject: RE: Whaling song -children
From: Jen M
Date: 07 May 04 - 07:06 AM

Thanks for the suggestions, I sang greenland Fisheries for them when we studied New England. Our High School did Drunken Sailor without complaint but don't think I'll try it with elementar, not brave enough! I remember the Mermaid from Scouts so I'm ok on that one. I'll bounce these off the other teachers and let you know!


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Subject: RE: Whaling song -children
From: GUEST,Keith A o Hertford
Date: 07 May 04 - 07:21 AM

Coast Of Peru is a gritty whaling song that many kids might relish.
You might want to tone it down a touch.
Two versions in DT with click to play.
Keith.


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Subject: RE: Whaling song -children
From: Snuffy
Date: 07 May 04 - 09:47 AM

Pete Grassby penned a song called "Daddy Can You See The Whale?". Ask him if you can use it.


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Subject: RE: Whaling song -children
From: radriano
Date: 07 May 04 - 11:33 AM

Regarding "Drunken Sailor" I'm always surprised when I hear some people say it's not appropriate for kids. I mean, the sailor got drunk, probably neglected his duties and now he's being punished. A fun to sing object lesson. Leave out the verses about "put him in bed with the Captain's daughter" along with the additional more modern verses about how she looks like an orangatan (sp?) and you're all set. Besides, the "Captain's daughter" verse originally referred to having the sailor whipped, "captain's daughter" being an euphomism for the whip called "cat o' nine tails."


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Subject: Lyr Add: NOAH'S ARK CHANTEY
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 07 May 04 - 12:25 PM

Noah's Ark Chantey

In 'Frisco Bay there lay three ships,
    To me way, hey, hey (-ugh!)
In 'Frisco Bay there lay three ships,
    A long time ago.

And one of those ships was old Noah's Ark
All covered over with hickory bark.

They filled up the seams with oakum and pitch. (twice)

And Noah of old commanded this Ark. (twice)

They took two animals of every kind. (twice)

The bull and the cow they started a row. (twice)

Then said old Noah with a flick of his whip,
Come, stop this row or I'll scuttle the ship.

But the bull put his horn through the side of the Ark,
And the little black dog he started to bark.

So Noah took the dog, put his nose in the hole,
And ever since then the dog's nose has been cold.

[It's a long, long time and a very long time,
A long long time and a very long time,]


From Joanna Colcord, Songs of American Sailormen. She cites Cecil Sharp, and although she doesn't specify, it must be his English Folk-Chanteys (because I don't find it in English Folk-Songs from the Southern Appalachians, which is the other of Sharp's that's in her bibliography -- he didn't get many chanteys in the southern mountains!).

I learned it from Ye Mariners All (John Roberts, John Rockwell, and Larry Young, of Schenectady, NY and Salem, MA) on their eponymous cd (GHM 106, 2003) (see Golden Hind's web site). They have don't use the third and fourth verses, and add the final verse from the chantey family. It's also on Revels Homeward Bound (Revels Records 2002), with John Rockwell leading the Revels Chorus.

Fairly ideal for kids.

~ Becky in Tucson


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Subject: RE: Whaling song -children
From: GUEST,linksfiend
Date: 07 May 04 - 12:41 PM

Lukey's Boat is great for children.

You can find lyrics and guitar tabs all over the internet and this site.

Some versions include lyrics about Lukey's wife being
deceased, but you can skip those lyrics or find
alternate versions that don't use those lyrics.


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Subject: RE: Whaling song -children
From: GUEST,Crystal
Date: 07 May 04 - 01:40 PM

There is a funny song about losing the whale. I'm not quite sure what it is called though


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Subject: RE: Whaling song -children
From: JWB
Date: 07 May 04 - 04:58 PM

Jen M.

I sing Cape Cod Gals with children, which they can relate to ("Oh, Cape Cod gals they've got no combs...They comb their hair with codfish bones.."). It's a chantey, though not about whaling.

A good song for singing with children that is about whales is Don Sinetti's The Song of the Whales. Very singable, and each verse is about a different species. I've used it often in elementary school programs. I didn't find it in the DT, but PM me and I can type up the lyrics for you, or you can call me and I'll sing it to you over the phone.

Jerry


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Subject: RE: Whaling song -children
From: Barry Finn
Date: 07 May 04 - 11:52 PM

There' are also many whaling songs from different part of the world. One I've found that my kids loved was 'Hell'va Wedding on the Congo River'. The words can be found in the DT, do a search on Congo River or BWI (British West Indies). I don't know if the tune's there but if you like what you see post my you tel # & I'll put it on an answering machine. Good luck Barry


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Subject: RE: Whaling song -children
From: Crane Driver
Date: 08 May 04 - 05:37 AM

Paddy and the Whale - there's a version in the DT. Unless you're in a strongly Irish community with no sense of humour . . .

Andrew


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Subject: RE: Whaling song -children
From: Amos
Date: 08 May 04 - 05:56 AM

Blow Ye Winds in the Morning is a lively tune which I first learned in grade school.


A


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Subject: RE: Whaling song -children
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 08 May 04 - 07:12 AM

Amos, you beat me! I was just thinking, how could I have forgotten that one? It's a great song, and all about whaling!

(You do have to help the kids get over "blow, boys, blow"- I'd recommend the alternative ending, "blow ye winds, heigh ho!:)

Allison


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Subject: RE: Whaling song -children
From: GUEST,sue
Date: 05 Nov 10 - 11:28 PM

bend your backs and row me lads
and take me to me whale
tonight we sing and dance
and tomorrow night we sail
we sail into the harbour no prouder men there'll be
we'll show them all we captured
the monster from the die die die die die dadi die
The captain said a piece of gold
for he who seize me whale
so bend your backs and row me lads
I know that we won't fail
Repeat
Can't find anything about this song it's a great diddy


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