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Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?

Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 06 May 04 - 10:08 PM
Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 06 May 04 - 10:14 PM
GUEST 07 May 04 - 12:31 AM
GUEST,Jesabel 07 May 04 - 03:29 AM
el ted 07 May 04 - 03:42 AM
breezy 07 May 04 - 04:00 AM
Roger the Skiffler 07 May 04 - 04:13 AM
Dave Bryant 07 May 04 - 04:29 AM
ossonflags 07 May 04 - 05:17 AM
GUEST 07 May 04 - 05:40 AM
mooman 07 May 04 - 05:49 AM
Sir Roger de Beverley 07 May 04 - 06:22 AM
el ted 07 May 04 - 06:24 AM
s6k 07 May 04 - 06:25 AM
Leraud 07 May 04 - 07:36 AM
KJ 07 May 04 - 08:52 AM
Dave Bryant 07 May 04 - 09:44 AM
Arnie 07 May 04 - 10:56 AM
Moses 07 May 04 - 11:32 AM
GUEST,Ms Penelope Rutledge 07 May 04 - 12:28 PM
Oaklet 07 May 04 - 12:57 PM
brid widder 07 May 04 - 01:24 PM
GUEST,Jim. 07 May 04 - 01:33 PM
John MacKenzie 07 May 04 - 02:39 PM
GUEST,Jim 07 May 04 - 02:59 PM
Linda Kelly 07 May 04 - 04:35 PM
Don Firth 07 May 04 - 05:03 PM
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GUEST 08 May 04 - 04:20 AM
GUEST,.gargoyle 08 May 04 - 06:30 AM
harpmaker 08 May 04 - 08:55 PM
Benjamin 09 May 04 - 01:52 AM
GUEST 09 May 04 - 05:22 AM
breezy 09 May 04 - 01:03 PM
mooman 09 May 04 - 01:26 PM
Strollin' Johnny 09 May 04 - 01:38 PM
GUEST,Stan S. from Ottawa 09 May 04 - 02:19 PM
Strollin' Johnny 09 May 04 - 02:31 PM
GUEST,a different guest 09 May 04 - 07:01 PM
GUEST,Noddy 09 May 04 - 08:30 PM
Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 09 May 04 - 09:27 PM
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JennyO 09 May 04 - 11:10 PM
The Villan 10 May 04 - 12:43 AM
s6k 10 May 04 - 03:16 AM
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JennyO 10 May 04 - 10:42 AM
s6k 10 May 04 - 11:09 AM
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The Villan 10 May 04 - 11:29 AM
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breezy 11 May 04 - 07:39 PM
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s6k 12 May 04 - 05:47 AM
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s6k 12 May 04 - 09:09 AM
Nick 12 May 04 - 09:28 AM
GUEST,Jim Murray. 12 May 04 - 11:29 AM
Nick 12 May 04 - 11:51 AM
Les from Hull 12 May 04 - 04:55 PM
el ted 13 May 04 - 03:35 AM
GUEST,Hugh Jampton 13 May 04 - 04:38 AM
GUEST,Greg Willis 13 May 04 - 07:19 AM
GUEST,Jesus Martini 13 May 04 - 07:27 AM
el ted 13 May 04 - 08:31 AM
GUEST,Jesus Martini 13 May 04 - 08:45 AM
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Sweetfia 13 May 04 - 09:06 AM
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harpmaker 13 May 04 - 09:27 PM
el ted 14 May 04 - 10:09 AM
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Subject: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 06 May 04 - 10:08 PM

If not, why don;t you go then?
tonight= i am pissed off, loads of folk people in Hull, but only people that could be arsed to turn up is Les, John the Harp and Chirstine.
so where was ther rest of youy then?
[i knoew Bassicc got problem tonight, so i not shout at him],
but the rest of you = should go, and you dident go, so pissed me off, = people moan ="no folk club in hull anymore etc etc etrvc"
but i made a folk club, and you dont go, tonight is cost me night off in lost wages, [40 quid plus tips], and Les went, [he goes to all the folk things] and jOhn and Christine went [all rthe waey from beverley], so whty didny any other people go???

any way= loads of folk people in hull, but they too lazy,
i took tonight off to make a folk club etc , but i'm not going any more so just get lost.john


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 06 May 04 - 10:14 PM

anyway=i notice thaty people go, wehn famous people are going, like greg stephens and jIm Eldon etc, and Rory Mcleod etc, but wehn not famous people are going, i bet they sit on there arse and watch eastenders etc.


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: GUEST
Date: 07 May 04 - 12:31 AM

It was my turn to mate hamsters with the gerbels. Next week I will go if you will take my place. You seem well versed and kind hearted so I know no harm will be done if we trade positions.


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: GUEST,Jesabel
Date: 07 May 04 - 03:29 AM

Get to the point jOhn and stop beating around the bush, name and shame.


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: el ted
Date: 07 May 04 - 03:42 AM

Sorry jOhn, something came up. oo er missus.


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: breezy
Date: 07 May 04 - 04:00 AM

when no-one came to my singaround in 2002, well 7 came I decided that I had to book guest everyweek as a focus of attention,an interest factor.
So now I have had 3 good years, built up a good club that books big names.
Non - attendance tells you that if you have nothing, you will get nothing.
So probably your folk club is a non-starter, and crap too.
But who am I to say?
Forward planning means that I have guest booked till May 2005, just hope Vin G and Bob F are still going then

Good luck.

Tonight Graeme Knights opens our summer season

visit www.folk4all.net

we are in St Albans, Fridays and Sundays

Sunday Dave 'Avril' Bryant


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 07 May 04 - 04:13 AM

Don't take it personally, jOhn, sh*t happens>
I don't frequent folk clubs but the jazz/blues club I go to often has poor attendances despite good bands. They blame: footy on telly, the weather, the night of the week etc. but I suspect it is down to poor publicity. There are very few of us who turn out every week (pushed out of the door by our better halves- even driven to the club to make sure we're out!) whoever is on, so you need to have a wider range of occasional visitors to make up the numbers and that means letting them know what's on. Most local papers are desperate fo copy so an "infomercial" article on the club and the upcoming attractions, an "interview" (ie press release) with an artist etc might get people coming. Our club is getting better attendances now, and I'm sure it's just beter publicity, including a regularly updated website.
...and the rest of you Hullcats: give jOhn the support he deserves, (I'm sure he'll always wear it), I'm sure running a club is a thankless task at times.

RtS


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 07 May 04 - 04:29 AM

It's a long drive up from SE London jOhn.

On the other hand, when myself, Linda, Les, & Yorkshire Yankee turned up at the curry ship last Saturday afternoon - it was shut ! It did evidently open about 1/2 hour later, but by that time we were on our way back across the bridge. You never did turn up at the Eurogathering, so we've got the huff now !


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: ossonflags
Date: 07 May 04 - 05:17 AM

Weelll, I went all the way to Beverley on Thursday and did'nt see you John.We were playing at the "Foresters".


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: GUEST
Date: 07 May 04 - 05:40 AM

No commitment eh, so if they are not playing they will come along, if only for the curry, keep at it johN


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: mooman
Date: 07 May 04 - 05:49 AM

So probably your folk club is a non-starter, and crap too.

Rather harsh words Breezy, you should know better. I ran a folk club for six years too and sometimes shit happens.

Don't get downhearted jOhn. You have tried to make it happen and if you stick with it I'm sure it will. Hull is packed with talented folkies and you just need to keep the word going round and it WILL build up, especially if you create a welcoming ambience. YOU took the initiative and deserve credit for that. I'd have come only I live in Belgium now.

All the best mate!

Peace

moo


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: Sir Roger de Beverley
Date: 07 May 04 - 06:22 AM

John

Remember the time when you and I were the only ones in the acoustic workshop in the Sun? Now, if you don't get there by about ten past eight you can't get a seat - we regularly get 20 -30 players there every week. So life can get better.

Rog


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: el ted
Date: 07 May 04 - 06:24 AM

Wise words Sir Roger. I have been to jOhn's club when even he hasn't turned up.


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: s6k
Date: 07 May 04 - 06:25 AM

tis not craP!!!!!

when ive recovered, i gonna kick all your arses for not going shame on you.

if i was feeling alive id rant some more but im gonna go to bed again.


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: Leraud
Date: 07 May 04 - 07:36 AM

John - take a leaf out of Breezy's book and sabotage everyone else's thread with news about your own club.

Lynne


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: KJ
Date: 07 May 04 - 08:52 AM

You're making e feel guilty now jOhn, but I'm afraid the women of Hull just won't stop having babies!! Thursday is my regular shift & after a 13 hr day its all I can do to keep me eyes open!! Keep trying mate.


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 07 May 04 - 09:44 AM

Surely jOhn's not responsible for all the babies - just the baby hamsters.


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: Arnie
Date: 07 May 04 - 10:56 AM

The Friday Folk Club, Deal, got down to about half a dozen regulars at one time but we kept going despite losing our venue. We've now been kicked out of another venue (thanks Shepherds Neame!!) but have found a new home in the Royal Marine Association Club. Despite these setbacks, the audience is growing and now regulary hits between 20-30 which ia a lot for a room over the bar. Unfortunately the room is pre-booked for a function tonight but not to be deterred, we're all meeting in a member's house and bringing our own booze - which will be just as much fun but cheaper than the club! Anyway jOhn, the answer is perseverance, a few good guest artists occasionally and,as has been said, advertising. We rely on What's On Folk, a Kent mag now run by Kathy & Bob Drage - must be working as we're still going despite some tough times. So don't give up - keep on folkin' in Hull!!! (although I'm from Halifax meself)


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: Moses
Date: 07 May 04 - 11:32 AM

Breezy may have used harsh words (subtlety and sensitivity are not his strongest points) but he IS successful in the clubs he runs.

Publicity is probably the most important point - yes he does hi-jack other threads and takes every opportunity (visiting other clubs, flyers, posters etc) to tell people about what's on at his clubs

Once you've got them in, it's value for money that will bring them back in. Give them what they want - it may be just a sing-a-round, the occasional guest or (like Breezy) popular and "big" names every week.

Not an easy thing creating a successful club. Some weeks, no matter what, will be disappointing. Don't give up yet. At Herga we've sometimes been down to 4 singers and we're still running after 41 years.


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: GUEST,Ms Penelope Rutledge
Date: 07 May 04 - 12:28 PM

jOhn, everything you touch turns to rubbish. Face it.

* PR


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: Oaklet
Date: 07 May 04 - 12:57 PM

Be still, my beating loins.......


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: brid widder
Date: 07 May 04 - 01:24 PM

I'm sorry you feel we've pissed you off John... I work hard too and my leisure time is precious... we gave it a try on the first night and no the club wasn't rubbish... but we prefer real ale and are unlikely to have a full evening out... with a longish walk and taxi home to drink something we don't enjoy.... I think the same fate befell Geoff's club at the Bull.


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: GUEST,Jim.
Date: 07 May 04 - 01:33 PM

Perhaps you should try opera or ballet.


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 07 May 04 - 02:39 PM

Wrong place for this thread, according to the title it should be in BS
John


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: GUEST,Jim
Date: 07 May 04 - 02:59 PM

I don't know if it's rubbish - I don't know where it is. If somebody tells me then maybe I'll try it next time I'm visiting my old home town (instead of going to up to Nellie's perhaps).

Jim


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: Linda Kelly
Date: 07 May 04 - 04:35 PM

John -sorry I was guilty for not going but I already go to 2 weekly folk clubs, the monthly Monk's Session and the festival season is beginning, as well as helping to organise EthnoEngland, decorate and look for a job and after grandchildren. My other half is anti folk as you know and there is only so much time available. We were very quiet this week as well, so it was probably timing-don't beat yourself up over it.


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: Don Firth
Date: 07 May 04 - 05:03 PM

Sorry I didn't make it, jOhn, but I'm halfway 'round the planet and these days commuting is a bitch.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: Don Firth
Date: 07 May 04 - 05:04 PM

Besides, I'm arse-deep in rubbish. . . .

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: GUEST
Date: 08 May 04 - 04:20 AM

Keep at it john & good luck, bollocks to the mockers


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 08 May 04 - 06:30 AM

I believe something is being lost in the translation....here in the Americas "rubbish" generaly refers to trash, brasura, refuse, garbage.

What ARE you trying to say jOhn? From what I have read is appears Hull in a college town with a delightful set of low-cost-housing that has become a model for the world.

Surely, your "rubbish" must have a another UK meaning than what we yanks believe...you know...something like the confusion we have with:boat,bonnet,bird,bummer?

What ARE you trying to say jOhn? Many of us are now politely listening....what IS your message?....you have all our attention?

Sinceely,
Gargoyle


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: harpmaker
Date: 08 May 04 - 08:55 PM

Keep at it john & good luck, bollocks to the mockers
(guest, you are right.)


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: Benjamin
Date: 09 May 04 - 01:52 AM

sorry to hear it jOhn. Perhaps we should discuss your folk club over a round of golf.


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: GUEST
Date: 09 May 04 - 05:22 AM

Better to discuss it over a round of ammunition. RIP jOhn and your fIlk clOb.

Just a tip jOhn - Give up the folk scene and spend your time at adult literacy classes. Now THAT'S harsh.


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: breezy
Date: 09 May 04 - 01:03 PM

as Lynne Heraud of the MOnday night Waltham Abbey folk club at the legion said, and Moses of the Herga at the Royal oak, Peel Rd Wealdstone on Mondays said,

go ,come to St Albans on Fridays at the Duke of marlboro,Holywell Hill next week Chris Flegg, one of the best guitarists in the country, followed on21st May by Cockersdale

or

Sundays at the Legion in Verulam rd, Tonight Dave 'avril' Bryant

n/w Rosa's daughters then Mike Sparks the w/after

this was not a sabatage, hi jack maybe.


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: mooman
Date: 09 May 04 - 01:26 PM

I can assure you jOhn is a LOT more literate than you might ever imagine, guest 05:22AM!

Unharshly and peacefully

moo


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 09 May 04 - 01:38 PM

Guest - it's an act! Perhaps you should go to adult sense-of-humour-acquisition classes.
I could be a lot harsher.
Johnny :0)


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: GUEST,Stan S. from Ottawa
Date: 09 May 04 - 02:19 PM

I've never even heard of a folk club in Hull.

There's Rasputin's here in Ottawa and the Black Sheep that's north of Hull in Wakefield. They're both well attended.


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 09 May 04 - 02:31 PM

Wakefield's West of Hull!


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: GUEST,a different guest
Date: 09 May 04 - 07:01 PM

It may be an act sj - but as an act it is Rubbish. To anybody who is noew to Mudcat he just comes over as a total wanker.

Thinking about it I suppose that the reason for the act is to encourage the favourite mudcat sport of flaming the guests.


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: GUEST,Noddy
Date: 09 May 04 - 08:30 PM

It is Hull in England that jOhn is referring to, Stan...otherwise known as Kingston upon Hull, positioned on the north bank of the Humber River estuary. It's quite a bit bigger than Hull, Quebec.


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 09 May 04 - 09:27 PM

Cheers everyone, I was pissed and fed up when i started this thread, I realise people are often busy doing other stuff, gigs, work etc.

Roger-I remember that night well, I went to The Sun, asked at the bar where the folk session was, they pointed to the room you was in, and I went in, and you was sat in the corner playing with yourself.

Thanks for the Pm's everyone, we will keep going at this, i was probably stupid thinking it would be a big sucsess straight away, stuff takes time.

Linda and KJ- dont feel guilty for not going, i know you go when you can.


Anyway, we keep going and next one is 3rd of June, and hopefully we will have 2 special guest singers from Gainsborough there.

Guest-I am ignoring you so just get lost.


If anyone doesnt know when and where it is, then it is , The First Thursday of the month, at The Marlborough Social Club, Newstead Street, if you want to know anything else about it, or directions etc send me a Private message, or if your not a member here, just ring me up, 01482 348448.


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 09 May 04 - 09:32 PM

any way=if you want to moan about my spelling, look at yours, [you can;t even spell now properley], so just shut up about it, stupid.


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: JennyO
Date: 09 May 04 - 11:10 PM

jOhn, I run a folk club in Sydney, Australia, which also happens to meet on the first Thursday of the month. We have been going now for nearly 7 years. The worst thing is always the worry about whether people will come, and some months have been lean. But fortunately enough people have said encouraging words that make me feel like keeping on going.

Make no mistake about it, you are doing a great thing - it is sometimes thankless, but don't give up - the rewards will come. And try not to let the knockers worry you - you are contributing something to folk - they are contributing nothing. As they say - "Nil Bastardo Carborundum" - Don't Let the Bastards Grind you Down.

Best wishes, Jenny


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: The Villan
Date: 10 May 04 - 12:43 AM

jOhn
"Anyway, we keep going and next one is 3rd of June, and hopefully we will have 2 special guest singers from Gainsborough there."

If it is who I think, you just make sure that they open the blockades around Hull and let them get back, so they can come to Market Rasen Folk Club on June the 4th to see Bill Whaley and Dave Fletcher. :-)

Why don't you and any others up there come and see them and have a break from running the club and be the listener - very relaxing :-)

Stick to it jOhn, it will work itself out, and if it doesn't you just close it, and walk away knowing that you have at least got off your arse and given it a go. There is a lot to be said for that.

You will probably find that you are jammed out on June the 3rd after this thread.


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: s6k
Date: 10 May 04 - 03:16 AM

quote: "they pointed to the room you was in, and I went in, and you was sat in the corner playing with yourself."

Rather rude!!!

anyway ive recovered now so see you at the next one


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: GUEST
Date: 10 May 04 - 05:53 AM

"Guest - it's an act!"

Is it?!!! Then he'd better go to acting classes as well.


"Perhaps you should go to adult sense-of-humour-acquisition classes."

Don't need to thanks. jOhn's posts make me laugh like a drain - not because they're witty and urbane, but because he does such a wonderful job of making a total tit of himself.


"I can assure you jOhn is a LOT more literate than you might ever imagine, guest 05:22AM!"

Ha! ha! ha! ho! ho! ho! hee! hee! hee! More hilarity!

Love 'n peace man.


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: Linda Kelly
Date: 10 May 04 - 06:45 AM

Well Guest, you seem an expert in the total tit stakes.


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: JennyO
Date: 10 May 04 - 10:42 AM

TROLL


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: s6k
Date: 10 May 04 - 11:09 AM

yeah but jOhn makes people laugh. you just make people laugh AT you because youre a foolish moron, and i bet likes to dress in womens clothes on a weekend and go to bed with your teddies.
go away, jOhn is respected but you mean as much as a grain of sand on a beach. stupid


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: Ross
Date: 10 May 04 - 11:17 AM

Perhaps people think you're John Prescott?


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: The DeanMeister
Date: 10 May 04 - 11:18 AM

Wonder if it's the same troll that made a complete bollocks-up of the Punch the Horse threads? Bloody nuisance.

Keep at it, jOhn.


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: Skipjack K8
Date: 10 May 04 - 11:20 AM

All this talk of tits and knockers is making me come over unnecessary.


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: Sir Roger de Beverley
Date: 10 May 04 - 11:26 AM

At least you haven't been accused of playing with yourself (I do hope he meant by my myself)

R


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 10 May 04 - 11:26 AM

jOhn, you might have three from Gainsborough on 3rd June if I can cadge a lift wi' t'other two (who, if I'm not mistaken, are my usual partners in crime). Hope to see you then.
Johnny :0)

And ignore that soprano castrato GUEST. If he had any balls at all he'd identify his miserable self. It takes a flamer to know one.
J :0)


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: The Villan
Date: 10 May 04 - 11:29 AM

Strollin'
Just make sure they let you through the blockade coming home. You musn't miss Bill and Dave :-)


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: Nick
Date: 10 May 04 - 02:59 PM

Keep going if it gives you and others pleasure, you're bound to get times when it doesn't work but the good times (hopefully) should outweigh the bad. From other threads here it suggests that you have had some good evenings - that alone suggests that it is worth persevering.

I hope the following is of some use, I hope it is not too long.

In September 2002 four of us started music on a Wednesday night in our local pub in North Yorkshire - I'm not sure if it's a folk club or not. The village is tiny (20-30 houses) and the pub relies on people travelling to it. Since then we have had music every week apart from one week when the snow was too bad to get to the pub and even then the one player who lives in the village played some music with the landlord. There are rarely less than ten of us and rarely more than 20 but it merrily goes on week by week with a nucleus of the same people and others coming and going. When we started we guessed that we might manage to keep it going perhaps once a month for a short while - the reality has been very different.

It was advertised early on once in the Easingwold advertiser (a VERY local paper) but apart from that has relied on word of mouth and being found by people. A high percentage of those who come once come again with varying degrees of regularity but the nucleus come, I think, because it has become a genuine highlight of the week. Just about everyone who comes plays or sings, though at least half of us have never done anything quite like this before and I doubt would have previously gone and performed at a folk club. It is very inclusive and encourages everyone to have a go if they want to and over time I think a number of us have been surprised to find ourselves doing things I doubt we would have done a year ago (eg I never thought I would sing in public!). We start at about 8.30 to 9 and we get thrown out when the landlord wants to close (which is of course bang on closing time *cough*) but I can rarely think of an evening when we haven't wished for the evening to extend for just one more song - perhaps that's what makes us come back the next week. As it can take the best part of an hour sometimes to go round the group and sing another song (you can feel a hint of tension on multi-versed songs sometimes) we have not really felt the need to advertise or push for lots more people, though everyone who does find us is always welcome, and new people always seem to make us improve or try a little harder.

We have had three outside artists over the eighteen months - Last Nights Fun to a packed pub, Marie Little and Dylanesque (a Dylan tribute band who wrote a very nice reaction to the audience on their web site after they played (!) Dylanesque Web site down in the bottom corner - I thought the band rather than the audience usually got reviewed) but mostly it has relied and thrived upon the fact that we really enjoy ourselves and want to do it, and everything else is a bonus on top.

Each week we wonder who or what will turn up and generally get pleasantly surprised that it just keeps on rolling. These days we would probably just play anyway even if there were two or three of us.

We are a mixed bunch with a range of musical tastes but we seem to tolerate each others tastes and encourage each to perform and contribute - four are unaccompanied, traditional Cecil Sharp/Copper family/Watersons type folk fans, one sings his own songs, a fiddle player (sorry violinist who is growing into a fiddle player much to his pleasure!) with some jigs and reels, a Tom Lehrer fan with a taste for the macabre, a touch of James Taylor here, a bit of everyone singing favourite Fairport things and a little jazz occasionally. Some would stand up and sing anywhere in front of anyone with minimal nerves, some of us find it much harder. Are we any good? It varies - but doesn't seem to matter too much or stop us encouraging each other. Definitely half of us have grown much better over the time, some would easily hold a spot at any folk club I have been to and one who comes occasionally has played at a festival or two. What is great is that all these abilities and tastes can co-exist.

We have few rules and the only problem I can think of - apart from a bit of tension with a few of the users of the pub about 9 months ago who seemed determined to show how much noise they could make in the main bar on a Wednesday (now no longer a problem) - was the mandolin/banjo player whose idea of tastefully joining in was to play a different tune in a different tempo in a different key (ideally about one and a quarter semitones from the key the other performer was playing in). Hide like a rhinoceros as well, but there you go.

I think overall we know what we set out to achieve, which is to enjoy ourselves, to hopefully improve and to try and make a range of music which gives pleasure to ourselves the performers and (secondarily) to anyone else who wants to listen. Mostly those who come, come to participate.

The pub is a lovely pub, it has a great landlord and a pint of bitter is £1.22 (though the last is just icing on the cake). We are not attempting to be like the Black Swan in York which has an excellent Folk Club with artists like Bob Fox, Roy Bailey, Dick Gaughan appearing - we raise four own money within the pub to pay for the few outside artists we have had so it is not too practical to fund as we do not charge for anything we have put on outside of raffle/bucket.

It's strength is that it is friendly, welcoming and relaxing to come and play and be. For my part it is a highlight to the middle of the week and a great thing to look forward to. Sometimes when I have thought that it was getting a bit samey or 'flat' and that we ought to broaden it someone turns up out of the blue or that certain magic thing happens and makes for an evening that keeps me smiling through Thursday (as an aside if you could bottle it and sell it at will, god, how rich would I be? LOL)

I'll give you a few of my thoughts and memories as I sit here which make the (minimal) organisation and the (very minimal) stress of wondering whether people will come worthwhile -

* A totally spontaneous reggae/calypso version of the Wild Rover to the tune of the Banana Boat song
* About 7+ hours of music on New Years eve
* The look of pleasure on the violinist's face on his first convincing 'squawk'
* Nice harmonies and a full sound of people enjoying singing
* The applause when one of us who finds it harder to perform does something which comes out half decent
* The surprise at finding an incredibly able whistle player who no-one even knew played
* The joy when someone totally new visits, plays and then comes back having enjoyed the welcome and the evening
* Occasionally having two or three people as an audience who enjoy themselves and stay AND come back

If you get anything like the above from what you have set out to do then it's got to be worthwhile keeping it going. Hopefully you may sense from this post that I get a lot of fun out it personally.

Best of luck - if you are ever over these parts get in touch and you would always be welcome, as would anyone.


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: Nick
Date: 11 May 04 - 11:37 AM

Whoops, have I walked into another wind up thread?


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: el ted
Date: 11 May 04 - 11:44 AM

Nick,
    No, this isn't a wind up. No one has replied because we are all still reading through your enormous post.
                         cheers
                     flamenco, the true path,
                      el ted


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: Sweetfia
Date: 11 May 04 - 02:10 PM

Well, that 'speed reading' course I did back at school came into use.

Well said tho' Nick, definately some sound advise there.


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: greg stephens
Date: 11 May 04 - 02:34 PM

Nick_: thanks for the inspiring account of your pub nights. Sounds just the sort of place I like going to. And I bet you sing really long songs too!


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: Nick
Date: 11 May 04 - 02:54 PM

No. Short. (Brevity = future watchword.)

Come visit next time you are wandering.


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: GUEST
Date: 11 May 04 - 03:03 PM

in a word, yes it is rubbish.


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: s6k
Date: 11 May 04 - 05:55 PM

in a word, muppet


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: breezy
Date: 11 May 04 - 07:39 PM

where's Easingwold then?


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: Nick
Date: 11 May 04 - 07:51 PM

About 10 miles north of York. The pub itself is in a tiny village called Farlington. As long as you don't all come and overwhelm it in one go (lol) there are details at the beginnings of a website I will one day get round to doing at Blacksmiths Arms and there are a few pictures from a couple of weeks ago (hopefully no-one minds being seen) at Pic1, Pic2, Pic3, Pic4. Quality of pix poor as trying out a camera and they are fairly compressed.

Not really an unashamed plug as I don't think we'd cope with loads of visitors in one go!


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: JennyO
Date: 11 May 04 - 10:56 PM

Love that last picture, Nick. With that lighting, it is sort of a work of art. And everybody looks so blissed out in that one.

Jenny


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: el ted
Date: 12 May 04 - 03:38 AM

Hey nick, your spot looks well worth a visit, useful plug that my man.


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: Nick
Date: 12 May 04 - 04:27 AM

Oh dear, guilty of thread banditry.

I'll check with the landlord tonight that he is ok with me promoting things a bit and start a separate thread to 'get us on the map' and leave this one alone. Sorry jOhn :(

(El Ted - (noticing the flamenco reference earlier) You're not the guy who played some flamenco stuff at the Globe at Guisborough? If so I much enjoyed your playing. If not, perhaps it's a pleasure to come!)


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: GUEST,KJ
Date: 12 May 04 - 04:31 AM

Hooray! CT


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: Beardy
Date: 12 May 04 - 04:35 AM

s6k I think you're being unfair to muppet. He would use his ID and not post anonymously.

Perhaps you should use other 6 letter words. Leslie Grantham has a useful vocabulary. Wanker is quite good.


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: s6k
Date: 12 May 04 - 05:47 AM

i didnt know there was a catter called muppet!

in that case i change my one word to TOSSER!


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: GUEST,Jane.
Date: 12 May 04 - 06:28 AM

From what I've read about this venture it seems to be an empty room where people can come and perform if they have nothing else to do, no resident singers or musicians, no guest artists, nothing to attract an audience at all, apart from the small circle of people who inhabit the various Hull threads on this forum, who also don't seem to be regular visitors. I think a folk club is more than that, sorry to be critical. Breezy seems to have the right idea, and Nick's session looks very inviting.


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: Sweetfia
Date: 12 May 04 - 06:30 AM

Nick, El Ted is the guy who goes round playin Flameno at folk clubs...sorry, it's my fault, i don't mean to bring him he just toddles along...!

(hehehe *bgrin*)

Oh, and I noticied my spelling mistake earlier; it should read advice, not advise! (Yes I know it's not a spelling site but I just had to correct it!)


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: el ted
Date: 12 May 04 - 07:08 AM

yo nick, yes, that was me at The Globe.Cheers.


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: greg stephens
Date: 12 May 04 - 08:09 AM

"empty room where people can come and perform if they've nothing else to do". Sounds like a reasonable working definition of a folk club to me. All I can say is, the club under discussion was a place I went to one night in April when I had nothing else to do, and I had a lovely evening. Thanks especially to the singing of Sweetfia and the playing of el ted, who have contributed here.


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: el ted
Date: 12 May 04 - 08:26 AM

Bloody ell I'm blushing!


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: Pied Piper
Date: 12 May 04 - 08:35 AM

I think what the club needs is a regular performance of jOhn's jiggling.
PP


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: Sttaw Legend
Date: 12 May 04 - 08:42 AM

El Ted and Sweetpea otherwise known as "Mick Tomlinson Experience" a pleasure to listen to. Good luck Ted with your sponsorship deal recently won from nail varnish distributor Estee Lauder.


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: s6k
Date: 12 May 04 - 09:09 AM

always knew he was a fairy.. ;)


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: Nick
Date: 12 May 04 - 09:28 AM

>>... it seems to be an empty room where people can come and perform ... no resident singers or musicians, no guest artists, nothing to attract an audience at all, apart from the small circle ... I think a folk club is more than that, sorry to be critical. Breezy seems to have the right idea, and Nick's session looks very inviting.

It was why I posted originally. Just because I believe there IS room for a range of different sorts of venue. I think we are probably a folk club in our pub but not a Folk-Club-with-capital-letters like Breezy's Folk Club or the Black Swan in York etc etc. We have no resident singers, no guest artists... just us. But one looks very inviting and one doesn't?

We are very happy as we are as we have no urge to be a major folk venue - it is not feasible and nor would any of us involved relish the work involved. There is no illusion that people SHOULD like it or come or support it, people come because they want to.

As I said in the 12 volume version above it is very doubtful that at least 50% of us here would have thought of going and performing at a Folk Club. Listen - yes, perform - no. So we have created something that very much satisfies our needs and that is probably why it works and keeps going. It is also part of the fun that some us have now started considering venturing out a little further and seeing if we could play outside of our cosy safe shell! (Not got far yet. Far too uncomfortable/shy at Guisborough but we may try on May 22 either at the folk day in the Black Swan in York or may even get to the Yorkshire gathering) It is a bonus that (rarely) people come and listen, but then it's not what it was set up for.

If you have a 'small circle of people' that's a good start. But if you want to create a Folk Club like the ones praised regularly in Mudcat I wish you luck - I would guess you are looking at a considerable expenditure of time and effort way out of line with anything I personally could envisage taking on.

But at 8.30 tonight in Farlington it will just be an empty room. And either it will be busy or not... *shrug*


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: GUEST,Jim Murray.
Date: 12 May 04 - 11:29 AM

When three people turn up to a FOLK CLUB, John's definition, not mine, which has been running for nine months, in a city we are constantly told is a hotbed of folk music, then something is wrong.


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: Nick
Date: 12 May 04 - 11:51 AM

True... but, if you're an optimist you at least believe there's hope! There could be less than three.


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: Les from Hull
Date: 12 May 04 - 04:55 PM

'constantly told is a hotbed of folk music' - who said that then? I think you are misconstruing. There are a lot of 'catters in the area, and a lot of them are singers and/or musicians. There are two very successful traditional folk clubs in the area, who attract large crowds.

Some of us aren't really folk club people, but prefer sessions. I support jOhn's efforts at the Marlborough because he's a good mate, but if it became another successful folk club with guests and floorspots I'd probably stop going. But then he wouldn't need me anyway.

I suppose because there is plenty going on in the area (although not necessarily within the city itself) it's proving difficult to get another venue up and running.

The monthly Black Boy session is this Sunday at 2pm. This session has been in danger of stopping but Maggie and I have asked for it to be continued. So see you there lads and lasses for songs and tunes and everything else.


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: el ted
Date: 13 May 04 - 03:35 AM

Les,
   Where is The Black Boy? Is it on the old high street? We could pop along to that one quite easily.


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: GUEST,Hugh Jampton
Date: 13 May 04 - 04:38 AM

Les,
    Why would you stop going to the club if it booked guest singers and musicians who are superb artists in their field? There is so much to learn and enjoy and it can also be an inspiration for your own performance.


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: GUEST,Greg Willis
Date: 13 May 04 - 07:19 AM

Trolls and flamers feed off the posts of those who attack them. There's an awful lot of troll food on this site, so you've only got yourselves to blame for their increasing numbers by providing a troll banquet. Don't feed them and they'll go elsewhere for sustenance.

I've noticed that John from Hull's posts seem to attract a lot of derogatory comments from 'GUESTS'. Some of you obviously know him personally, and are quick to come to the defence of a friend, which is admirable, but surely even you as his friends can see how some his posts are open to ridicule and so become a troll magnet. Anyone who starts a thread called 'Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?' should realise they are not going to get entirely serious responces. A site that allows people to post as anonymous guests is open to abuse even more than most, so members just have to ignore trolls and flamers as much as possible, and accept that John's posts are likely to get many abusive 'GUEST' replies. I've also noticed that derisive comments directed at John from guests seem to upset John's friends much more than they upset John himself. Perhaps it's best left to John to reply to his critics. This way there would be a lot less trolling.


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: GUEST,Jesus Martini
Date: 13 May 04 - 07:27 AM

We had 11 people at the Farlington Folk Club last night and it was very pleasant.

Sometimes we get people coming from as far away as Halifax - Hull is nearer than that so why not come and join us one evening - Wednesdays 8.30 for 9.00 pm or whenever?

Jesus Martini


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: el ted
Date: 13 May 04 - 08:31 AM

I am tempted to pop up one week jesus, but when I looked Farlington up on my AA map it said " Danger Cannibal country"


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: GUEST,Jesus Martini
Date: 13 May 04 - 08:45 AM

El Ted

Just make sure you come to the right Farlington. There is one near Portsmouth which is where some foreign truck drivers think they are when they visit us.

But it sounds like you have got the right one!


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: Les from Hull
Date: 13 May 04 - 09:05 AM

Hugh - don't get me wrong, it's just that I'm not much of a 'sit and listener', I'm much happier as a 'joiner-in'. It took me years to discover that. I was a regular 'sit and listener' at Folk Union One at the Bluebell in Hull, although there would usually be lots of chorus stuff to join in with. As for my own performance, well almost anything could improve that. Also, since taking early retirement, I have to choose my nights out quite carefully. Hasn't live music got expensive?

El Ted - yes it's the one in High Street, the quite famous one with the lovely room at the front with the great acoustics. If you come, I'll let you play with my bouzouki!


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: Sweetfia
Date: 13 May 04 - 09:06 AM

Don't tell him that Les...he'll want to buy one!


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: GUEST,Simon Oakes.
Date: 13 May 04 - 08:58 PM

John from Hull has contributed more abusive comments on this site than most, little wonder he attracts trolls.


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: harpmaker
Date: 13 May 04 - 09:27 PM

Quote; Nil Bastardo Carborundum. Thanks Jenny!


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: el ted
Date: 14 May 04 - 10:09 AM

I will be down to tickle your bouzouki Les. I have permission to leave the housework till monday, so I will see you in Black Boy 2ish, are you coming tots?


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: The Unicorn Man
Date: 17 May 04 - 06:23 AM

For god sake don't listern to Breezy, if you do what he says the grass roots folk won't beable to bloom and you will only have a false club that will only turn out for big names. Unless you have Breezys (how can I put it) negotiating skills, this could cost a packet, and also how then will we get the folkies for the future when all the big and old names have retired? We have Sing a Rounds every two weeks, and have built up over two years decent and loyal players, to keep the interest up we then offer a half hour spot to people who want to do more, and then we also have Saturday Night Charity Mic Nights with a big band, support acts and of course floorspots. We have other things planed as well. And any way I thought you Hullies we're well up for folk, we at The Bull in Barton le Clay Beds, want to come up in the Autumn to see you, and the Hummber Bridge. Any ideas of where to go?


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: The Unicorn Man
Date: 17 May 04 - 06:29 AM

And See the sea.


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: The Villan
Date: 17 May 04 - 06:43 AM

Martin
There is room for both.
Market Rasen Folk Club is a bit like Breezy's style.
However, there are so many other clubs in the 30 mile radius who do singaround or sessions.
I personally think that we compliment each other.
The beauty is that if somebody has got to the level where they are confident to sing in front of an audience then they have that chance at my club.
I have normally about 9 artists playing on the night. Whilst there are bound to be adverse comments from people who do not like my style of club, I can honestly say that the comments I get from singers and audience are only positive.
At the end of the day, we are all putting lots of hours in FOC, to promote Folk Music.
Les


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: GUEST,Sooz(at work)
Date: 17 May 04 - 07:44 AM

Room for both indeed.
You'd like our club in Gainsborough Martin - 14 performers turned up on Friday and we had a great evening!


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: GUEST
Date: 17 May 04 - 07:53 AM

This is true, we even had a very happy two hours in a pub in Baldock at The Baldock Festival on Saturday where Morris Men and session people played and then we sung and then they played we sung, etc and both lots enjoyed it, we kind of took over the pub. And when we had fininshed one man was sad cos he enjoyed it so much. Mind you I like all the diffrent types of folk anyway, so I could not lose, but not everyone does. I also like Breezy and his funny ways, I was just saying if ALL clubs were like his, no one would be looking after the grass roots folk, which we ALL need to do,to keep it going. And to give Breezy his due he does run a Spotlight Club for the lesser know people as well.


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: el ted
Date: 17 May 04 - 08:20 AM

Post no100!!!!!!!!!!!!! I thank you, my work here is done.


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: s6k
Date: 17 May 04 - 08:33 AM

you bloody bugger i hate you


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: el ted
Date: 17 May 04 - 10:00 AM

All hands to the pumps chaps!! jOhn tells me that sorcha is visiting him in sunny hull tonight, and unfortunately there appears to be shag all on, musically speaking,in the town tonight.Anyone got any bright ideas?


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: s6k
Date: 17 May 04 - 10:21 AM

have a round of golf - the weathers good for it


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 17 May 04 - 10:28 AM

golf, my arse!


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: el ted
Date: 17 May 04 - 10:29 AM

Next!


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: s6k
Date: 17 May 04 - 10:55 AM

have a game of boules


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: GUEST,Hugh Jampton
Date: 17 May 04 - 11:39 AM

Surely it is time that jOhn took a break from fretting about the Hull F.C., amitted his obvious DESIRE TO obSEE


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: GUEST,Hugh Jampton
Date: 17 May 04 - 11:47 AM

REPLAY
Surely it is about time that jOhn stopped fretting about the Hull F.C., came to terms with his patently obvious desire to succeed at the game and went to enjoy a round of the Old Royal and Ancient.
P.S. Nick, there is an enormous group of singers down here that will beat a path to your club and applaud everything if the session bitter is still £1.22 per pint!!


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: Nick
Date: 17 May 04 - 03:19 PM

The bitter is always £1.22 a pint - Sam Smiths pubs are always priced with the beer at happy hour prices (and it's real ale as well).

People are always welcome to come - if those of you stuck in Hull who are on their way to Selby are short of something to do wednesday I'm sure you would be made very welcome. You can always PM if you want any info or to check what's going on.

I would be interested in others views on the different/the best ways to organise singarounds so will be starting a new thread rather than continuing to take this one off topic.

(By the way it's not MY club it's OUR club - I was guilty of grumbling about that earlier in the year and would hate to give the same impression)


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: GUEST,Jesus Martini
Date: 20 May 04 - 11:19 AM

Following up Nick's thread, we had 14 at the Farlington Folk club last night (beer still £1.22 a pint)and an excellent evening was had by all - but still no-one from Hull. What are you waiting for?!

Jesus Martini


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: GUEST
Date: 20 May 04 - 11:35 AM

any time any place any where


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: Amos
Date: 20 May 04 - 01:17 PM

Sheesh!

A


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: el ted
Date: 21 May 04 - 10:41 AM

Hola Jesus,
          Right you bugger! I'll come, anybody else up for a trip to middle of nowhere next wednesday from Hull? I can take two passengers in my fabulous Fiat Scud.


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: el ted
Date: 21 May 04 - 10:47 AM

ps: I will be "offline" until monday (as you computer bods say) but feel free to PM or text me if you are hard enough to travel to the wilds of Farlington.I will consider taking non-flamenco types, but only in the boot.


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: harpmaker
Date: 03 Jun 04 - 07:00 PM

Well?


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: GUEST,Grubby
Date: 03 Jun 04 - 11:50 PM

Nick coming over to UK in September from Tasmania AUS and as a coincidence will be travelling around your area. I will make a point of visiting your club at Farlington. I run a club here in our home town and I can understand the problems discussed in this thread well. So it appears to be a world wide provlem doesn't it. we are really catering to a niche market and number are small in comparison to the big picture, but Iif you work at it and get the info out to the folkies they will turn up. It took us a while but it is working now.
Regards
Grubby
Hobart Tasmania

Mudcat member but using another PC at present


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Jun 04 - 12:43 AM

yes, yes, yes, yes, yes!

yes!

yest

YES!!!!

YES.

YEAH, Yeah, yean

It is most common knowledge...both here and abroard...if you seek rubbish, (i.e. you are a rubbish collector) or if you are a seeker of (refined rubbish)

Unequivalcally, your precense is demanded upon the University of Campus Hull....

From all previous of John of Hull's postings...this appears to be the rubbish captiol of the world....take advantage......smell and taste DEEP of the best of Hull's world.


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 04 Jun 04 - 02:39 AM

you spelled capitle wrong stupid.


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: el ted
Date: 04 Jun 04 - 04:12 AM

And presence.


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: Sttaw Legend
Date: 04 Jun 04 - 04:20 AM

So who is it that wants the present at the camp uni....


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: JennyO
Date: 04 Jun 04 - 11:46 AM

My folk club in Sydney was on last night (same night as yours jOhn).

So how did it go?

Jenny


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: s6k
Date: 04 Jun 04 - 12:31 PM

you also spelt the thrid YEAH wrong and put YEAN


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 07 Sep 04 - 12:37 AM

................REFRESH............
Hull Folk Club celebrated its 1st Birthday last Thursday, it was a brilliant night, with over 20 singers and musicians there, everybody [including me!] did at least 1 song/tune, we drank loads of ale and ate some cake!
During the year we,ve been going, we have loads of top performers there, including Greg Stephens, Kate Barfield, Nahro Zagros, Rory McLeod, Jim Eldon, Henry ayrton, Bill Sables, Punch the Horse, Pat Cooksey, Linda Kelly, El Ted, David Oaklet, Cowfish, Martin the Whistler and loads of people like that, playing all sorts of folk type music including skiffle, traditional irish tunes, protest songs, ballads, Flamenco Tunes, Blues songs, Kurdish Fiddle Tunes etcetcetc.

I'd like to thank everybody that has suppported us, especially them that came from far away [Greg, Kate and Rory etc], and especially them that have made the efoort to turn up every week, [Ted, Mick and Les etc].

Over the last weekend about 20 of us travelled to Nick_'s place at Far Lington for the weekend, it was brilliant, a full weekend of folk music of all types,by people of all ages everyone was made really welcome, its a brilliant pub, really well run, good ale at good prices, and I'd reccomend a visit to anyone [see link to pub website in Nicks post].


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: alanabit
Date: 07 Sep 04 - 02:06 AM

Well done. Good luck for the coming years. Pat Cooksey came a long way too - he lives in Nürnberg!


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: JennyO
Date: 07 Sep 04 - 11:47 AM

Congrats jOhn! Glad it went so well. Keep up the good work. You'll be surprised how quickly the next few years go. I can hardly believe my folk club will be 7 years old in November - and it all started as a result of a course I was doing. I had to do a project, and the folk club was it - it's very rewarding, as I'm sure you are finding out.


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 08 Sep 04 - 05:19 AM

jOhn,
    You mispelt effort! You put "efoort," terrible!


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: harpmaker
Date: 08 Sep 04 - 11:20 AM

this is not a spelling site


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 09 Sep 04 - 12:41 AM

, its a music sight.


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: GUEST,Mike, Halifax UK
Date: 09 Sep 04 - 07:14 AM

Interesting thread to read through, could someone précis what was going on there??! I've being playing in clubs and sessions for years and have enjoyed everything from three to a hundred and three in a club. I went to an 'open mic' in Hebden Bridge last night. It was almost alternative, but plenty of songs, the odd poem, double acts closely associated with 'folk' but light hearted and fantastic fun. It's loosely organised and there must have been about eighty in the room. Are we beginning to take it all to seriously??


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 09 Sep 04 - 08:48 AM

Fear not Mike of Halifax. This thread is tongue in cheek to say the least.


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: Sttaw Legend
Date: 09 Sep 04 - 08:58 AM

Mike of Halifax

Do you have any cheap mortgages at the moment?


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: GUEST,Mike, Halifax UK
Date: 10 Sep 04 - 05:25 AM

Tee Hee. That's put a smile on my face and made my day, however my original question still stands.. Maybe a new thread "does the folk fraternity take it too seriously sometimes" ?


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: PoppaGator
Date: 10 Sep 04 - 10:42 AM

I think we've established by now that Hull Folk Club is not now, and never has been, rubbish...

BUT:






is it shite?


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 10 Sep 04 - 10:46 AM

You misspelt Flcok, this is a spelling site you know.


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Subject: RE: Is Hull Folk Club Rubbish?
From: Hand-Pulled Boy
Date: 10 Sep 04 - 04:20 PM

Aye wonce went und ib wod gud.


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