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Lyr Req: 'Once in China there lived a great man...

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12 Oct 98 - 09:23 AM
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Subject: Lyrics requested ... Once in China
From:
Date: 12 Oct 98 - 09:23 AM

Looking for the lyrics for a ditty that starts out:

"Once in China there lived a great man, His name was Chikera-chee-chi-chan ?? His legs were long his feet were small The chinese man couldn't walk at all

etc ???


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Subject: RE: Lyrics requested ... Once in China
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Apr 05 - 02:18 PM

a.marchant@tiscali.co.uk


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Subject: RE: Lyrics requested ... Once in China
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 26 Apr 05 - 02:24 PM

I had no luck on google or at the levy sheet music site.


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Subject: RE: Lyrics requested ... Once in China
From: Joe Offer
Date: 26 Apr 05 - 03:13 PM

I'm guessing it's one of those songs from the late 19th century that made fun of Chinese immigrants to the U.S. You'll find a number of songs like that if you use our Filter and look for "china" (set the age back) - or click here


I did find this on a Google search:
    once long ago, there lived a funny man.
    his name was icka rocka icka rocka ran.
    his legs were long as his feet were small.
    and he couldn't walk at all.

    EENY MEENY MING MONG PING PONG CHOW!
    EASY VEASY VACKA LEASY, EASY VEASY VOW!
    EENY MEENY MACKA RACKA RAY RI
    CHICKA RACKA DOMINACKA
    LOLLIPOPPA OM POM PUSH!


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Subject: RE: Lyrics requested ... Once in China
From: Joe Offer
Date: 26 Apr 05 - 03:29 PM

It also comes up in the writings of Louisa May Alcott, from Under the Lilacs, Chapter 21:
    Few of the children had ever seen the immortal Punch and Judy, so this was a most agreeable novelty, and before they could make out what it meant, a voice began to sing, so distinctly that every word was heard,--

        "In China there lived a little man,
        His name was Chingery Wangery Chan."

    Here the hero "took the stage" with great dignity, clad in a loose
    yellow jacket over a blue skirt, which concealed the hand that made his body. A pointed hat adorned his head, and on removing this to bow he disclosed a bald pate with a black queue in the middle, and a Chinese face nicely painted on the potato, the lower part of which was hollowed out to fit Thorny's first finger, while his thumb and second finger were in the sleeves of the yellow jacket, making a lively pair of arms. While he saluted, the song went n, --

        "His legs were short, his feet were small,
        And this little man could not walk at all."

    Which assertion was proved to be false by the agility with which the
    "little man" danced a jig in time to the rollicking chorus, --

        "Chingery changery ri co day,
        Ekel tekel happy man;
        Uron odesko canty oh, oh,
        Gallopy wallopy China go."

    At the close of the dance and chorus, Chan retired into the tea garden, and drank so many cups of the national beverage, with such comic gestures, that the spectators were almost sorry when the opening of the opposite window drew all eyes in that direction. At the lattice appeared a lovely being; for this potato had been pared, and on the white surface were painted pretty pink checks, red lips, black eyes, and oblique brows; through the tuft of dark silk on the head were stuck several glittering pins, and a pink jacket shrouded the plump figure of this capital little Chinese lady. After peeping coyly out, so that all could see and admire, she fell to counting the money from a purse, so large her small hands could hardly hold it on the window seat. While she did this, the song went on to explain, --

        "Miss Ki Hi was short and squat,
        She had money and he had not
        So off to her he resolved to go,
        And play her a tune on his little banjo."

    During the chorus to this verse Chan was seen tuning his instrument in
    the garden, and at the end sallied gallantly forth to sing the following tender strain, --

        "Whang fun li,
        Tang hua ki,
        Hong Kong do ra me!
        Ah sin lo,
        Pan to fo,
        Tsing up chin leute!"

    Carried away by his passion, Chan dropped his banjo, fell upon his
    knees, and, clasping his hands, bowed his forehead in the dust before
    his idol. But, alas! --

        "Miss Ki Hi heard his notes of love,
        And held her wash-bowl up above
        It fell upon the little man,
        And this was the end of Chingery Chan,"

    Indeed it was; for, as the doll's basin of real water was cast forth by the cruel charmer, poor Chan expired in such strong convulsions that hishead rolled down among the audience. Miss Ki Hi peeped to see what had become of her victim, and the shutter decapitated her likewise, to the great delight of the children, who passed around the heads, pronouncing a "Potato" pantomime "first-rate fun."


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Subject: RE: Lyrics requested ... Once in China
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 29 Apr 05 - 09:23 AM

From the TIME Magazine archive: (with formatting changed a bit by me)
    Chickery Chick
    Dec. 3, 1945

    In the [18]70s, collegians at Amherst set the 100-year-old jingle to music and sang it over pots of ale, when they wanted to prove that they could walk a musical straight line. One of the many versions ran like this:

      In China there lived a little man
      His name was Chingery-ri-chan-chan,
      His feet were large and his head was small,
      And this little man had no brains at all.
      Chingery-rico-rico-day ekel tekel Happy man.
      Kuan-a-desco cartty-o gallopy-wallopy-china-go.

    Last week this old tongue twister, with new and even less intelligible lyrics, was the fast-climbing No. 2 seller in Billboard magazine's poll of record sales. It was well on its way to join Mairzy Doats and the Hut Sut Song in the jabberwocky Valhalla of the jukebox. Twenty-nine-year-old Arkansas-born Jo Proffitt had changed the Chinaman into a chick, and called it Chickery Chick. She sent the lyrics to Tin Pan Alleysmith Sidney Lippman, who added some new notes. Now it describes a chicken who got bored with saying "chick chick" all day, astounds his companions with some jived-up poultry poetry: Chickery-chick cha-la cha-la, Check-a-la-romey in a ba-nan-i-ka... .Tin Pan Alley actuarians estimate that the U.S. will need about three months to get over it.

    -Copyright 1945 by Santly-Joy, Inc.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Once in China there lived a great man...
From: GUEST,Lee Garrett
Date: 17 Jan 07 - 10:21 AM

My brilliantly bonkers Grandpa told me when I was young:

Once in China there lived a great man,
His name was Chika-Laka-Che-Chi-Chang.
His sins were many though his feet were very small,
But he had toenails on them all.

With a Chika-Laka-Che-Chi-Chang-Chika-Laka,
Chang-Chika-Laka-Malapy-Kat.
Kat-Go-To-Go
Iti-Kati-Ki-Go
Iti-Kati-Ki-Go Chiney-Go!!

Genius I tells ya, pure genius


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Once in China there lived a great man...
From: Joe Offer
Date: 17 Jan 07 - 01:16 PM

Lee, when you answer an eight-year-old request, that IS pure genius. Thank you very much.
-Joe Offer, who searched for this song for hours and hours-


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Once in China there lived a great man...
From: GUEST,flyingcat
Date: 17 Jan 07 - 02:29 PM

this is version i learned at my mother's knee, she used to sing to us and make us laugh.

In China there lived a very big man
His name was Jigger iger ingjing jang

His legs were long and his neck was short
And the Chinese man could't walk nor talk

His servants used to carry him about
because he was so very very stout

They took him up to the top of a hill
And rolled him down like a great big wheel

Jiggerigering jiggerang jiggarora
bondolora woodawooda waok
Okotoko idi adi itiko
Itify titify Chinese talk


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Once in China there lived a great man...
From: GUEST,Son of an Amherst grad
Date: 21 Jan 07 - 11:59 PM

My father, Amherst '53, used to sing a version with a chorus that went something like this:

Chicka cha loo, cha loo, Japan
Allopy, wallopy, chicka cha lallopy
Chicka cha loo, cha loo, Japan
Allopy wallopy China man

We sang it on long car trips to Canada in the 1960s, along with other ethnic favorites.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Once in China there lived a great man...
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Feb 07 - 03:26 PM

In China once there lived a man
His man was chickery iker man
his legs were long
and his feet were small
And this poor chinaman couldn't walk at all

chorus

The ladies from about the town
Came up the hill and
Rolled him down
And tickle and tease this China man

chorus

And when this chinaman
he did die
and in his coffin he did lie
They shipped his body to Japan
And that was the end of the chinaman

Politically incorrect in today's world but my Grandmother sang it to me when I was a child.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Once in China there lived a great man...
From: Azizi
Date: 06 Feb 07 - 11:48 PM

What???!!

Could I have been wrong??

Is it possible that I was mistaken about the origin of the "Stella Ella Ola" family of handclap rhymes???

Click here to read those rhymes: thread.cfm?threadid=77066#1370542

I thought that these rhymes might have come from the Spanish language because of that "s chico chico" line that's found in a number of its variants. But I really was standin' on shakey ground as I could never find any documentation of a Spanish source. It just sounded kinda Spanish, you know?

Now I come to find out that there may be a Chinese origin for rhymes like:

Stella ella ola, clap clap clap

With an s, chicko chicko,

chicko chicko slap jack!

falo falo falo,

with ah one, two three four, FIVE!

-snip-


Okay. I can live with that.

But. I was close, hun? No??

Oh, well.

Thanks Jim Dixon, and all the Guests!

I appreciate it. Really.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Once in China there lived a great man...
From: Azizi
Date: 07 Feb 07 - 12:14 AM

I hasten to correct my statement that the source for the Stella Ella Ola rhymes may be of Chinese origin.

I should have written that the source for these rhymes may be American English rhymes that attempted to mimic what they thought was Chinese/Asian talk.

That's considerably different than the rhymes being of "Chinese origin".


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Once in China there lived a great ma
From: GUEST,Hugh
Date: 10 Feb 07 - 05:22 PM

I remember a song I heard at summer camp in Canada in the 60s. Unthinkable that anyone would sing it now. Clearly of the same origin as many of the other songs mentioned here, but a little different.

"Once in China lived a man
Name was Chickeracka Chee Chi Cho
Arms were long and legs were short
Chinaman could walk nor snort."

And the chorus went something like:

"Hoke chickeracka cheek chickaloro
Bongo loro piggywiggy wango
Hoko poko hit 'im in the coco
Chitterbee chatterbee chee chi cho."

For some reason it really sticks in my head over 40 years later. In fact, I found this thread because it was running through my head today, so I googled "Once in China lived a man". Weird.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Once in China there lived a great man...
From: Azizi
Date: 10 Feb 07 - 05:56 PM

Hello, GUEST,Hugh!

Life is weird that way. But anyway you get here, you're welcome to stay.

Consider joining our community. There's a whole lot of exchanging musical and other information going on.

Best wishes,

Azizi


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Once in China there lived a great man...
From: Charley Noble
Date: 11 Feb 07 - 03:34 PM

It certainly is a weird little ditty, and I can easily imagine how readily it passed from one generation to another as a nonsense song. But I cannot imagine leading it today unless I changed it to something like "Once in Scarsdale there lived a rich man..."

Once upon a time there was a little poetry book called, I believe, THE INNER CITY GOOSE which processed familiar nursery rhymes. The only one that comes readily to mind is:

There was a crooked man,
And he done quite well!

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Once in China there lived a great man...
From: GUEST,Geoff Yeowell
Date: 24 Feb 07 - 11:47 AM

My English granddad used to sing us a song when we were little. It went something like this:

There once was a Chinaman who had a funny name
His name was Chickeraka Chu Chi Chan
His arms were long and his legs were short
This Chinaman couldn't walk or talk
-
CHORUS
Chickeraka Chu Chi
Chimmy Chimmy Ora
Pomma Diddy Ora
Paddy Waddy Wack
Oko Boko Hit Him on the Popo
Here we go, here we go, cheerio!
-
Once his servant took him out
Treated him to a glass of stout
When they got to the top of the hill
The Chinese man felt very very ill
-
CHORUS
-
Once his servant took him for a drive
Told him not to drive to fast
He drove too fast and they tumbled down
That was the end of the Chinese man
-
CHORUS

My granddad died in 1993 at the age of 81. I wish I had recorded him singing this!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Once in China there lived a great man...
From: Stewie
Date: 24 Feb 07 - 07:54 PM

Adam McNaughtan recorded a Glasgow version of this and a couple of other children's ditties relating to Chinese on his "Words, Words, Words" album. This album and another, titled 'The Glasgow I Used To Know', have been reissued on an excellent double CD as 'The Words I Used to Know' Greentrax CDTRAX 195D.

--Stewie.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Once in China there lived a great ma
From: GUEST,Mel
Date: 12 Mar 07 - 09:40 PM

I can't believe I found this. My grandmother used to sing it to me and I have never met anyone who knows what I'm talking about.

Her version went:

In China once there was a great man,
His name was Chickery Choo Chai Chan,
His legs were fat and his feet were small,
That China man couldn't walk at all.

Chickery Choo Chai Chan-galora,
Bang-alora, Men-a-Kin-Men.
Lang-con-do-dee
Idi-kiddi-pi!
Idi-kiddi-pi!
China Coo!

My god, it is quite insane when you write it down. The Idi-kiddi bits were inevitably accompanied by a burst of tickling.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Once in China there lived a great ma
From: Artful Codger
Date: 12 Mar 07 - 10:35 PM

Can someone post an ABC or send Joe a MIDI for one of these variants?


Gor, I remember "Chickery-Chick". I think the chorus ends:

Fallika wallika, can't you see,
Chickery-chick is me!

Though I don't remember any of the verses.

Thanks, Joe, for the Alcott excerpt.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Once in China there lived a great man...
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Mar 07 - 09:40 AM

My Mum's version, which I now sing to my children is:

In China once there lived a man
Whose name was Chicker-racker-ring-chi-chan
His legs were long and his feet were small
It's a wonder he could walk at all.

Chorus
Chicker racker ring chi chan chacker rorum
Pon my orum ecki pecki wan
Oh ko oh ko chicker pa chicker pa
Chicker pi chicker pi she en ko

They marched him up to the top of the hill
And they rolled him down with a right good will
They rolled him here and they rolled him there
The chinaman with the turned up chair.

Repeat chorus!

No idea how to spell it, of course, nor where it comes from (which was why I googled it in the first place) but there you go!!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Once in China there lived a great man...
From: GUEST,Shawn Bettise
Date: 30 Mar 07 - 09:27 AM

Of all the things to be running through my head this morning - I googled it and found all of you - my older cousin taught us this rhyme - they sang it at Girl Scout camp in Montana. The following is what I can remember:
"There was a man in China town - his name was Chika Racka Chee Chi Cho -
His legs were long - his feet were short - the Chinese man could walk nor talk.
(chorus) Chicka rack Chee Chi Cho Chi Chika Laro - Bongo Lago - Piggy Wiggy Wago - Oko Noko Hit 'im on the Koko - Charami Charami Chee Cha cho.
The Chinese man, he had a wife and oh! they lived a terrible life (can't remember the rest of this verse)
(chorus)
The Chinese man was dynamite - he lit the fuse and turned out the light - the very next morning, he flew sky high - but he didn't care 'cause he could fly!
(chorus)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Once in China there lived a great man...
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 30 Mar 07 - 02:55 PM

"Under the Lilacs," Louisa May Alcott (see Joe Offer post, 26 Apr 05), was serialized in the children's "St. Nicholas Magazine." Chapter 21 with-
In China there lived a little man,
His name was Chingery Wangery Chan,-
appeared in vol. 5, no. 11, 5 Sept 1878.

This long-lived and popular children's magazine would ensure widespread disemination of the little rhyme.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Once in China there lived a great man...
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Apr 07 - 03:08 PM

Chinkity Chinkity Luchadapan Ollipy Ollipy China man,
His Teeth were short and his hair was long
And this is the way he walked along

They took his coffin to Japan
And that was the end of the China Man.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Once in China there lived a great man...
From: GUEST,Guest- MR
Date: 07 Apr 07 - 07:39 PM

I was trying to sing this to my 3 yr old daughter and remembered only the chorus on this song from 25 years ago-
    Chickereka chee chi cho lemma lauren
    Si lemma lauren one a pecka one
    Koi koi koi koi hitti hotti hotti ho
    Chee Chi cho.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Once in China there lived a great man...
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 07 Apr 07 - 08:27 PM

Here I thought I had buried long ago the old earworm as sung by Sammy Kaye (1945), and Artful Codger has to mention it. AAARRGHH!

Posted in thread 14419 by Alice, 14 Oct 99
Chickery Chick

Chorus (I won't repeat the rest)

Chickery chick, cha-la, cha-la
Check-a-la-romey in a bananika
Bollika, wollika, can't you see
Chickery chick is me!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Once in China there lived a great man...
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Apr 07 - 08:21 PM

it kills me that I can't remember all the verses. My Mom taught us this when we were very young. the middle to end goes

oh this Chinaman, oh he had wealth,
he lived in a mansion all by himself
the neighbors next door, they bought him a boat
and this is the way the Chinaman floats:

Chingaling chee, chi li, chi lo,
chingaling wallaga, in the bananaga,
wallaga, wallaga, over the sea,
in the bananaga watch-ah.

oh this Chinaman, oh he did die,
and in his coffin he did lie;
they sent him back to Old Japan,
and this is the way his epitaph ran...

Chingaling chee, chi li, chi lo,
chingaling wallaga, in the bananaga,
wallaga, wallaga, over the sea,
in the bananaga watch-ah.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Once in China there lived a great ma
From: GUEST,Matthew Burns
Date: 15 Apr 07 - 05:32 PM

This is the version my Mum, nanna and great grandma used to sing to me, I'm from the north of England and was searchin to see if this was an actual song, i cant believe there's so many versions. anyway it went;

In china once there lived a great man
his name was chik-o-rak-a-chee-chi-chan
his legs were long and his feet were small
and that chinaman couldnt walk at all

so its...
chee chi chuckle oh cho chuckle oram
candy norum in a pee nam
cat-go two-go etty-gitty-gotty-go
addi-pi addi-pi china go

there were quite a few more verses but i cant remember them and me great grandmas dead n she always sang it the best.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Once in China there lived a great man...
From: GUEST,guest
Date: 18 Apr 07 - 11:58 AM

Once in China lived a man
and his face was dark as tan
here he comes and here he goes
Hong Kong Harry with the beery nose

chikericky chee-chee chee-chee cholum
laughala doolum missipee guy
I go you go, hitty-kitty catty go
Hong Kong chikericky chee choo chi

MY FATHER TAUGHT ME THIS SONG AS A CHILD. APPARENTLY HE USED TO SING IT WITH HIS MATES IN THE ARMY CIRCA WW2

Other songs included:-

Felix... keeps on walking... keeps on walking still...

AND

For the boys all laugh at Charlie Chaplin... his boots a cracklin, for the want of blackin'...

AND

Dan, Dan the lavatory man... cleaning up the muck all day... cleaning up the 'you know'... reading the football final, passing the merry hours away gor blimey...

At this point my mum would step in and give my Dad a row for teaching the bairn... they rude songs...
Well I was only 3 then, but more than five decades later, I still remember them.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Once in China there lived a great ma
From: GUEST,Cheryl M
Date: 18 Apr 07 - 10:03 PM

I knew of verse that spoke of The Chinaman's Wife. It was something about "he led a terrible life" and "She cut off his pigtail, grew so long," and then I don't remember anymore. Is anyone familiar with that part of the song?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Once in China there lived a great man...
From: GUEST,Michele L
Date: 19 Jun 07 - 09:39 PM

I LOVE THIS!!! I was trying to find the lyrics to sign this to my son. My Grandmother used to put us to sleep with this song, but this is all I can remember:

In China there once live a man
His name was Chinering Changering Chan
His legs were short and his feet were long
as this Chinaman couldn't walk at all.

Checkeree chee che-la che-la
Checker-a-roni in a banana-ka
ballacka wallacka kanatakee
in a banana-ka China go

This Chinaman had plenty of wealth
He lived in a mansion all to himself
The neighbers nextdoor they bought him a boat
And in it they set the poor Chinaman afloat

Checkeree chee che-la che-la
checker-a-roni in a banana-ka
ballacka wallacka kanatakee
in a banana-ka China go



That's were I lose it. I know the words are what I heard as a little girl, but I would love to know the actual lyrics. anyway, having fun with this post.


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Subject: Lyr. Add: Chingery Chan
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 19 Jun 07 - 10:30 PM

Jim Dixon posted the first verse of this old Amherst song. Here is the entire song. Many versions and additions since it first appeared in the 1860's.

Lyr. Add: CHINGERY CHAN

1.
In China there lived a little man,
His name was Chingery-ri-chan-chan;
His feet were large and his head was small,
And this little man had no brains at all.

Chorus:
Chingery-rico-rico-day,
Ekel-tekel. Happy man!
Kuan-a-desco-canty-o,
Gallopy-wallopy-china-go.

2.
Miss Sky-high she was short and squat;
She had money, which he had not;
To her he then resolved to go,
And play her a tune on his little banjo.

Chorus:

3.
Miss Sky-high heard his notes of love;
She held his wash-bowl up above;
She poured it on the little man,
And that was the end of Chingery-chan.

Chorus:
Chingery-rico-rico-day,
Ekel-tekel. Injured man!
Kuan-a-desco-canty-o,
Gallopy-wallopy-china-go.

From the section on Songs of Amherst (E. C. Brayton), p. 178-179. No author cited.
H. R. Waite, Coll. and Ed., 1868, "Carmina Collegensia: A Complete Collection of the Songs of the American Colleges, with Piano-Forte Accompaniment. To Which Is Added a Compendium of College History." Oliver Ditson & Co. New York:-C. H. Ditson & Co.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Once in China there lived a great man...
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 19 Jun 07 - 10:41 PM

The song was reprinted, without change, in the enlarged "Carmina Collegensia" of 1876.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Once in China there lived a great man...
From: Azizi
Date: 19 Jun 07 - 11:04 PM

"Chingery-rico-rico-day" ??!

Could "Once in China there lived a great man" be the source [or "a" source] for the children's handclap rhyme "Stella Ella Ola"?

If so, there goes my theory about "Stella Ella Ola's Spanish origin...

Here's an example of "Stella Ella Ola" for those who aren't familiar with it:

Subject: RE: Kids chant Stella Ola Ola / Stella Ella Ola
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Apr 07 - 01:17 AM

wow, i'm surprised i found this...we used to sing it like this in the early 90s

Stella ella ola
clap clap clap
singin' es chico chico
chico chico cracker jack
es chico chico
falo falo
i gotta blow my nose
so, 1,2,3,4,5!

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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Once in China there lived a great man...
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 19 Jun 07 - 11:48 PM

I doubt a relationship. Chingery Chan was changed around by Louisa May Alcott; I think "Under The Lilacs," where she used it, (1878) is on line (also see the post by Joe up above.
There seem to be a number of these songs- children and the writers for them are inventive!

On the other hand-


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Once in China there lived a great man...
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 20 Jun 07 - 02:26 PM

refresh


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Once in China there lived a great ma
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Jun 07 - 05:54 PM

Here's the version I learned as a child. Clearly much mutated from but also related to other versions:

In Chinatown there lived a man
His name was Chickety-Chickety Chan
His feet were long and his toes were short
And this is the way the Chinamen talk

CHORUS:
Ooooh, chickety-chee chi-ly chi-lo
chickety-rummity inna-ga-waddiya
waddiya waddiya chi-na-key
inna-banana-ga-watchio

[other verses I've forgotten]

The Chinaman, he up and died
and in his coffin he did lie
they shipped him off to old Japan
and that was the end of the Chinaman


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Once in China there lived a great man...
From: GUEST,DavidWalters
Date: 26 Jun 07 - 08:49 AM

Like all old songs this one has many versions and here's the one my mother used to sing:

Chickeracka chin chi chi chackerlan
Constance lorey hetti petti pan
Hoko poko hitterpotta hitterpi
Hitterpi hitterpi ee i oh

Once there lived a little old man
His name was Chickeracka Chin Chi Chan
His arms were long and his feet were small
Chinese man couldn't walk at all

Chickeracka chin chi chi chackerlan
Constance lorey hetti petti pan
Hoko poko hitterpotta hitterpi
Hitterpi hitterpi ee i oh

His servants used to carry him about
On their backs and the boys would shout,
"Here he comes, there he goes,
Chinese man with a very long nose."

Chickeracka chin chi chi chackerlan
Constance lorey hetti petti pan
Hoko poko hitterpotta hitterpi
Hitterpi hitterpi ee i oh.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Once in China there lived a great man...
From: GUEST,Karen
Date: 08 Jul 07 - 09:40 PM

I remember singing this with my sisters on the base we lived on, not sure which one we first learned it at, but possibly Ottawa.

China man had a wife,
Didn't know how to handle a knife,
,
Cut her up with a carving knife.

Chee chi cho chickalora,
Bungalora,
Pigy Wiggy Oko,
Oko oko, hit him in the coco,
Chitter bug, Chitterbug,
Chee chi cho cho.


And that's all we can remember.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Once in China there lived a great ma
From: GUEST,John Tapscott
Date: 12 Jul 07 - 04:28 PM

When I was about 5 years old (I'm 60 now) I learned this poem in school by heart I still remember most of the lyrics:

Once In China there lived a funny man,
His name was Chick-a-rack-a chee-chaw-chan.
His nose was long, his legs were short,
This Chinese man could walk nor talk.

Unfortunately I can't remember the chorus properly. It's something like:

Chick-a-rack-a-chee-chaw.....
.........con-o-lorum ecko pecko-ann

Some of the lyrics quoted in this thread have been close but there is nothing the same as those I learned as a child.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Once in China there lived a great man...
From: GUEST,Simon In Leeds
Date: 12 Jul 07 - 05:00 PM

When I was very young My Uncle made out that my family was originally from China and our imaginary family sang this song to each other.
Once in China there lived a great man
his name was chika raka chee chi chan
his legs were long his feet were small
the chinese man he could,t walk at all
chikaraka chee chi chor chucoloram
condu norum nedi pee nan
cat go doogo
esty go dee gedygo
chika raka chee chi the chinese man.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Once in China there lived a great man...
From: GUEST,Janet from Leeds
Date: 16 Jul 07 - 11:25 AM

I beg to differ with my cousin from Leeds. The words I learned were just slightly different. Only this weekend the family got together, aunties, uncles, nieces, nephews, brothers sisters and cousins and recited the poem once more.

Once in China there lived a great man,
His name was Chika Raka Chee Chi Pan,
His legs were long and his feet were small,
The poor old man he couldn't wall at all,
ChiKa Raka Chee Chi chore chuckalorum,
Condu lorum neddy pee nan,
Cat go doo go, estigo digeddy go,
Chicka Raka Chee Chi the Chineese man.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Once in China there lived a great ma
From: GUEST,R
Date: 16 Jul 07 - 06:47 PM

Wow! How cool that there is a website on this! My mom was a kindergarden teacher and taught me this song back in the early 70s. I loved it and made her sing it to me over and over and now I sing it to my son...he's only 5 months...unfortunately I won't be able to sing it once he understand and can repeat the words because it has now been deemed politically incorrect, but anyway...here is the version I know:

Once there was a China man
His name was Chicka chalu Chapan
His hair was short, his teeth were long
And this is the way he walked along,

Chicka chalu chalu Chapan
Challapy Allapy, Chicka Challapy
Chicka Chalu, Chalu Chapan
Challapy Allapy China Man

Alas this poor old man he died
And in his coffin did reside
They shipped him back to old Japan
And that was the end of the China Man

Chicka chalu chalu Chapan
Challapy Allapy, Chicka Challapy
Chicka Chalu, Chalu Chapan
Challapy Allapy China Man


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Once in China there lived a great man...
From: GUEST,JDW Harrogate
Date: 17 Jul 07 - 07:24 AM

Regrettably I was unable to attend the recent Family gathering.

However as the "Uncle who hails from China" I am delighted to confirm

that the version given by my niece Janet (Leeds)is correct & as taught to me by my Mother (her Grandmother). I'm afraid its back to school for you Simon!!!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Once in China there lived a great man...
From: GUEST,Janie - Daughter of the Uncle who hails from
Date: 18 Jul 07 - 05:39 AM

I have to tell you all that I am really quite devastated - I was firmly under the misapprehension that my father's family had actually written the rhyme when they lived in China many years ago - how taken in was i????? I also believed that my father's pigtail was somewhere in the loft at home!! sad really!! Anyway, I have to confirm that my cousin Simon needs to go back to another family gathering so that he can learn chica racka all over again - The words I know are the same as my cousin Janet!! But she has always been right about everything in my life!! xxx


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Once in China there lived a great man...
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 18 Jul 07 - 08:58 AM

In China once there lived a man
his name was chickereye ching chin chang
his legs were tall and his feet were small
and the chinaman couldnt walk at all
his servants used to carry him about
on their backs and the people would shout
here he comes, there he goes
the china man with the monkey nose


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Once in China there lived a great man...
From: GUEST,PenniOther daughter of 'Uncle who hails from
Date: 19 Jul 07 - 04:29 AM

I was fortunate enough to be present with my cousin Janet at the recent family gathering..... What she omits to mention is the reason we were discussing Once in China - is that it is - or at least used to be - a pre-requisite for any outsider wishing to join our dynasty to be able to recite the ditty. My fiance was attempting to learn said poem prior to being 'allowed' to marry me. I can confirm that the version written by Janet is the same as that provided for him by Aunt Margaret - who also hails from China. How did Simon go so wrong???? I blame the parents!!!! Aunty sybil??


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Once in China there lived a great man...
From: GUEST,Lisa, Witney, Oxon England - Aged 34
Date: 21 Jul 07 - 06:42 AM

Wow....

I am trying to teach my five year old boy this rhyme, my aunt used to sing it to me when we used to walk on the moors over Barnsley. Our version was this:

In China lived a funny little man
His name was Chi Chy Chy Chy Chuckalan
His legs was small but his body was tall
The Chinese man couldn't walk at all

Chi Chy Chy Chy Chy Chuckaloo
Chuckaloo loo loo icky picky bum
Halabala rush and a by gum day
Halabala riding home

It took two men to carry him around
It made the people laugh and shout
Here he comes and there he goes
The Chinese man with the turned up toes

Chi Chy Chy Chy Chy Chuckaloo
Chuckaloo loo loo icky picky bum
Halabala rush and a by gum day
Halabala riding home.....

My memories of this are such happy ones, my little boy loves it and so do I....thanks everyone for sharing your memories.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Once in China there lived a great man...
From: GUEST,Al the ole fashioned gal
Date: 22 Jul 07 - 10:31 AM

We used to sing this in the Brownies and I sang it to my son, he's 12 now and likes me to sing it every now and again. The version I learnt goes

In Chinatown there lived a man
His name was Chicker Racka Choo Cha Chan
His legs were short and his feet were small,
and the poor little devil couldn't walk at all.
CHORUS

Chicker racker choo cha chi chicker nora
anti nora wee willy wim
oko oko hit him on the boko
itta ma itta ma im pim pim.

His servants used to carry him about,
upon their backs with a merry merry shout,
And when they got to the top of the hill
they rolled him down like a Beechams pill
CHORUS

He got married so they say
to his wife on his wedding day.
Tho he was born on the day of his birth
He died on the very last day on earth
CHORUS


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Once in China there lived a great man...
From: GUEST,Al the ole fashioned gal
Date: 22 Jul 07 - 10:36 AM

As my mum sang it me from when I was tiny, I sang it to my son (still do now some times).Have never seen it written down so excuse the spelling, I write it as it was sung.

Chickaree chick cha la cha la, chicala roma in a bananicka
Wollika wollicka can't you see
Chickaree chick it's me


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