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Lyr Req: Day after Day It's Slippin' Away (Shango)

M.Ted 23 May 04 - 08:49 AM
Blackcatter 21 May 04 - 07:14 PM
robomatic 21 May 04 - 06:35 PM
M.Ted 21 May 04 - 06:24 PM
Blackcatter 21 May 04 - 01:29 PM
M.Ted 21 May 04 - 12:49 PM
Blackcatter 21 May 04 - 11:54 AM
M.Ted 20 May 04 - 06:11 PM
GUEST,Blackcatter 20 May 04 - 05:10 PM
M.Ted 20 May 04 - 02:27 PM
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M.Ted 20 May 04 - 12:42 PM
GUEST,Edie 19 May 04 - 09:31 PM
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Subject: RE: Tune Req: anyone remember this '60s hit?
From: M.Ted
Date: 23 May 04 - 08:49 AM

I am with you on the singing business, Blackcatter--all the live singers do that "Diva" thing, and all the recordings are pitch-corrected and electronically harmonized so that the melodies are undistinguishable--

robomatic--I think I would call that subject rather than theme, image might even be better--I am wary of the word unique,   but I think I kind of generally disagree with you--there are a lot of particularly American themes and subjects, because American culture trades on "uniquely American experiences"--cattle drives, long lonesome highways, boom and bust, elusive dreams, cars, the hop, drive-ins, Chicago, California, New York in June, rolling down the Mississippi, anything to do with banjoes, surfin' at Malibu, shootings, showdowns, and taking a job and shoving it--all this kind of stuff really only appears, or has meaning, in American songs--


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: anyone remember this '60s hit?
From: Blackcatter
Date: 21 May 04 - 07:14 PM

It's 30,000 Pounds of of Bananas.

& M Ted - I'm with you about new pop stuff. I can't get into rap even when they make it sound nice by calling it hip-hop, And no one seems to know how to sing anymore. All they want to do it vocal gymnastics.


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Subject: Concept of Native American Themes
From: robomatic
Date: 21 May 04 - 06:35 PM

The unique theme of the west coast sinking away seems to be one of the very few uniquely American themes in song. There's a cute throwaway song with the same subject that my brother used to sing in coffee houses:

"Edgar, did you ever, ever, really feel that California s l i d e?"

The only other uniquely American theme I have come up with is:

Brake failure on a steep slow, started in railroad days with "Casey Jones" turning to trucking mishaps in latter days: "Wolf Creek Pass" and "40,000 Pounds of Bananas".


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: anyone remember this '60s hit?
From: M.Ted
Date: 21 May 04 - 06:24 PM

I've moved on to Joel Whitburn's Hot 100 Book, and one of these days will pop for the newest edition, which includes about ten years of stuff I haven't got covered--I am in no great hurry because I am haven't been much interested in the pop stuff from the last 4 or 5 years--

My daughter does DJing for techno dance clubs--I was very proud of myself when I casually mentioned to her that I'd been listening to Apoptygma Berserk--"How did you ever hear of them?"
Just from cruising the internet--


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: anyone remember this '60s hit?
From: Blackcatter
Date: 21 May 04 - 01:29 PM

Certainly the fans should drive the pop information. The Top 40 is a valuable resource for DJs - it's one of the ways they hear from the listeners. Certainly listeners watch the charts too, but few people are going to buy a record just because it's high in the charts without listening to it.

The whole pop thing is very interesting to me, because I rarely have been into pop stuff.

I DJ occasional dances at my church and use my PC and MP3s. Since I don't personally listen to Top 40, I've had to use Joel Whitburn's Top 40 Hits book. And now everyone thinks I'm an expert and that I have every song they've ever wanted to dance to (I have about 500+ dance songs from the 50s on to the present. Of course I also host an alternative dance now an again with music that never was even on the Hot 100.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: anyone remember this '60s hit?
From: M.Ted
Date: 21 May 04 - 12:49 PM

Cashbox was the trade magazine for jukeboxes, our local newspaper published both the Cashbox and the Billboard charts every week, and they were often very different, the difference between what people want to hear and what people want them to hear--I understand that now, there is a ratings service that monitors P2P downloads to determine which songs and artists are popular--an interesting turnabout for the music industry!

I have had what occasionally borders on an obsessive interest in what songs are and were popular--Of course, as a kid, I was an avid radio listener,   and the top 40 standings of everything were drummed into our heads as often as the songs themselves--but later, as a bar--club--wedding--coffeehouse-sandwich-shop entertainer, I was always looking for the perfect set list, and always tried to get the inside line on what people really liked--and for that the charts only get you so far--

For that, there are two non-existant charts that I'd really like to see--one would be charts based on the set lists for working club/bar bands(including info on the "most requested"), the other would be the set lists for club and dance party DJ's--these guys make their living by playing what people want to hear, and they die if the dance floor is empty--


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: anyone remember this '60s hit?
From: Blackcatter
Date: 21 May 04 - 11:54 AM

The Billboard charts (the Top 40 is part of the Hot 100 - the 40 highest ranking songs on the Hot 100) were, until 1998, based on sales, juke box play and national radio airplay. In 1998 there was a change and for the first time, airplay alone could determine whether a song made it into the Hot 100, but it took 2 years before a song hit #1 without any sales stats.

The HOT 100 was created specifically to merge the information of the previous "The Best Sellers In Stores," "Most Played By Jockeys" & "Most Played In Jukeboxes" into one chart and made its debut on August 4, 1958. That makes the charts to be only 1/3 based on airplay.

Airplay is certainly important, but it was only one way that people would learn about the songs - TV and the variety shows gave some groups an immdiate national audience, especially in the rural areas where pop radio station might not exist. The jukebox market was also huge - especially since the popularity of the records in jukeboxes had little to do with what DJs liked. The Billboard people knew early on that they had a more useful product (the charts) if they based it heavily on what the average listener wanted rather than what a few DJs played over and over.

This is what allowed performers such as Elvis and the early Mowtown groups to have big hits even though many radio stations wouldn't play their songs. My Mom grew up in the late 50s in San Bernardino CA - she and her friends listened to the records of many of the early black artists, but they didn't have a radio station that would play those artists because of racism.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: anyone remember this '60s hit?
From: M.Ted
Date: 20 May 04 - 06:11 PM

Actually, the Top 40 concept is based on radio airplay rather than record sales, and basically it is that a station would play only about 40 tunes(the real number varied), which were supposed to be the biggest hits in whatever city the radio station was in----the Billboard Charts (in the US)are last word in the national ranking, but they were really compilations of several things, which included airplay on a relatively small number of regional stations, plus jukebox play, DJ picks, and record sales.    Anyway, the bottom line is that the national top 40 is now and always was basically an average of what was a being played locally, all across the country.

Local hits in one area are generally picked up in other areas, as well(often really quickly) and if they do well, they are picked up in even more areas. Record companies have people whose job it is to call radio stations and say, "Hey, this song is really hot in X town, if you play it, it'll be a big hit for you, too!" Sometimes, these guys manage to get a lot of national airplay for records that no one really buys, making an artist really well known without making any money for them.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: anyone remember this '60s hit?
From: GUEST,Blackcatter
Date: 20 May 04 - 05:10 PM

Well, I guess that's argueable.

I'm looking at the Top 40 as being "national hits" - local ones for whatever reason rarely generate record sales large enough to put a record in the Top 40.

I was 1 in 1967, so sorry, don't remember it.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: anyone remember this '60s hit?
From: M.Ted
Date: 20 May 04 - 02:27 PM

Blackcatter, If it is in the Hot 100, it is officially a hit--though not necessarily much of a hit--

The way that the charts are compiled, or were compiled at the time, being on the Hot 100 meant that it was in the top 40, and perhaps even the top 20, in some markets--(Remember that the pop AM stations usually had a top 20 or top 40 playlist, which meant that if it wasn't one of the 40, it wasn't played at all)The top hits were the ones that were in the top in the most markets simulaneously.

For instance, in 1967, Betty Swan released a record called, "Make Me Yours"-- though it made the Billboard Top 40, it never broke into the Top 20, and didn't make year end Hot 100--however, in Detroit, on CKLW(OK, the Station was in Windsor, but most of the listeners were in Detroit) it was the number 10 for the whole year--(Great tune--if you remember it, you'll know why it was a big hit in Detroit!)


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: anyone remember this '60s hit?
From: Blackcatter
Date: 20 May 04 - 01:03 PM

I didn't mean to imply that is was a bad song - I doubt I've ever heard it before and I certainly like songs with worse lyrics.

I was just pointing out that it didn't chart in the Top 40, therefore not officially a "hit"

Just trying to provide what info I had.

By the way, Badfinger had a top 40 hit with a different song with the same title.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: anyone remember this '60s hit?
From: Amos
Date: 20 May 04 - 01:01 PM

Well, kinda below the radar! Thanks, MTed -- things I never knew I didn't know!


A


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: anyone remember this '60s hit?
From: M.Ted
Date: 20 May 04 - 12:42 PM

It made it to number 57 on the Billboard Hot 100--interestingly, Shango featured drummer Tommy Reynolds, of "Hamilton, Joe Frank, and Reynolds", who was also part of the T-Bones, who had the instrumental Alka-Seltzer hit, "No Matter What Shape"--well, maybe not that interesting--


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: anyone remember this '60s hit?
From: GUEST,Edie
Date: 19 May 04 - 09:31 PM

Thanks to all, esp. Amos.   You must have some searching magic unavailable to me. OK maybe wasn't a "hit" and probably not even good, but I am glad to have found it.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: anyone remember this '60s hit?
From: LindsayInWales
Date: 19 May 04 - 07:14 PM

there's no accounting for taste....


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: anyone remember this '60s hit?
From: Amos
Date: 19 May 04 - 07:09 PM

Actually it was a "hit" in 1969.

A


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: anyone remember this '60s hit?
From: LindsayInWales
Date: 19 May 04 - 07:00 PM

60s? Sounds more like 90s crap


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: anyone remember this '60s hit?
From: Blackcatter
Date: 19 May 04 - 06:17 PM

Thanks Amos - I could only find the one with the unsure lyrics.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: anyone remember this '60s hit?
From: Amos
Date: 19 May 04 - 06:04 PM

DAY AFTER DAY
Shango


Day after day, more people come to L..A..
Don't you tell anybody, the whole place's slipping away
Where can we go, when there's no San Francisco ?
Better get ready to tie up the boat in Idaho

Do you know the swim, you better learn quick Jim
Those who don't know the swim, better sing the hymn

Tuna at the bowl
Find fillet of much sole!
Ooooo what can you do
With a bushel of wet gold?

Day after day, more people come to L..A.
Don't you tell anybody, the whole place's shaking away
Where can we go, when there's no San Francisco ?
Better get ready to tie up the boat in Idaho

Where can we go, when there's no San Diego
Better get ready to tie up the boat in Idaho
Do you know the swim, you better learn quick Jim
Those who don't know the swim, better sing the hymn

Tuna at the bowl
Find fillet of much sole!
Ooooo what can you do
With a bushel of wet gold?


Day after day, more people come to L.A.
Don't you tell anybody, the whole place's shaking away
Where can we go, when there's no San Francisco ?
Better get ready to tie up the boat in Idaho

Better get ready to tie up the boat in Idaho
Better get ready to tie up the boat in Idaho
Better get ready to tie up the boat in Idaho
Better get ready to tie up the boat in Idaho
Better get ready to tie up the boat in Idaho


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: anyone remember this '60s hit?
From: Blackcatter
Date: 19 May 04 - 06:04 PM

Quick seach using a line of the lyrics:

By the way - it may have been on the radio, but it never cracked the Billboard Top 40.


Day After Day (It's Slippin' Away) - by Shango


Day after day, more people come to L..A..
Don't you tell anybody, the whole place's slipping away
Where can we go, when there's no San Francisco ?
Better get ready to tie up the boat in Idaho

Do you know the swim, you better learn quick Jim
Those who don't know the swim, better sing the hymn
Do the happy (?????)
What can you do when the bush is (?????)

Day after day, more people come to L..A.
Don't you tell anybody, the whole place's shaking away
Where can we go, when there's no San Francisco ?
Better get ready to tie up the boat in Idaho

Where can we go, when there's no San Diego
Better get ready to tie up the boat in Idaho
Do you know the swim, you better learn quick Jim
Those who don't know the swim, better sing the hymn

Do the happy (?????)
Oh, what can you do when the bush is (?????)

Day after day, more people come to L.A.
Don't you tell anybody, the whole place's shaking away
Where can we go, when there's no San Francisco ?
Better get ready to tie up the boat in Idaho

Better get ready to tie up the boat in Idaho
Better get ready to tie up the boat in Idaho
Better get ready to tie up the boat in Idaho
Better get ready to tie up the boat in Idaho
Better get ready to tie up the boat in Idaho


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: anyone remember this '60s hit?
From: open mike
Date: 19 May 04 - 05:41 PM

it is best to put a hint in the title so people will check your message.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: anyone remember this '60s hit?
From: emily rain
Date: 19 May 04 - 05:34 PM

my mom says: "it's a familiar concept, but it doesn't ring any bells."


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Subject: Tune Req: anyone remember this '60s hit?
From: GUEST,EdieShack@hotmail.com
Date: 19 May 04 - 05:24 PM

I'd love to know the name of the song and group. It was a radio hit when I was a kid. Calypso sound, went like this:

Day after day, more people come to LA
Shh, don't you tell anybody, de whole place shakin' away
Where will we go, when there's no San Diego?
Shh, better get ready to tie up de boats in Idaho.

Do you know the swim? You better learn quick chip...
Those that don't know the swim, better sing a hymn
Where will we go, when there's no San Francisco (I dunno)
Shh, better get ready to tie up de boats in Idaho.

Thanks to any radio/trivia geeks out there.


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