Lyr Add: John of Badenyon

Subject: Lyr Add: John of Badenyon
From: *#1 PEASANT*
Date: 11 Jun 04 - 03:49 PM

John of Badenyon

When first that I became a man,
Of twenty years or so,
I thought myself a hansom youth,
And fain the world would know;
I deck'd myself in best attire,
With spirits bright and gay,
And here and there and everywhere,
Was like a mom of May.
I had no care nor fear of want,
But rambled up and down;
And for a bean I might have past,
In country or in town:
I still was pleased where e'er I went,
And when I was alone,
I tun'd my pipe and pleas'd myself,
With John of Badenyon.

Now in the days of youthful prime,
A mistress I must find,
For love they say gives one an air,
An e'en improves the mind;
On Phillis fair above the rest,
Kind fortune fix'd mine eyes;
Her piercing beauty struck my heart,
And she became my choice.
To Cupid then with hearty prayer,
I offer'd many a vow;
And danc'd and sung and sigh'd and swore,
As other lovers do,
But when I came to breath my flame,
I found her cold as stone,
I left the girl and tun'd my pipe,
To John of Badenyon.

When love had thus my heart betray'd
With foolish hopes in vain;
To friendship's port I steer'd my course,
And laugh'd at lovers pain,
A friend I got by lucky chance,
T'was something like divine,
An honest friend's a precious gift,
And such a gift was mine.
And now whatever might betide,
A happy man was I,
In any strait I knew to whoom,
I freely might apply.
A strait soon came, I try'd my friend,
He heard and spurn'd my moan,
I turn'd away and tun'd my pipe,
To John of Badenyon.

I though I should be wiser next,
And would a patriot turn!
Began to doat on Johny Wilks,
And cry up Parson Horn,
Their manly courage I admir'd,
Approv'd their noble zeal,
Who had with flaming tongue and pen,
Maintain'd the public weal.
But e'er a month or two was past,
I foiund myself betray'd
T'was self and party after all,
For all the stir they made.
But when I saw the factious knaves
Insult the very throne,
I curs'd them all and tun'd my pipe,
To John of Badenyon.

What to do next I mus'd a while,
Still hoping to succeed;
I pitch'd on books for company,
And gravely try'd to read,
I bought and borrow'd everywhere,
And studied night and day;
Ne'er miss'd what dean or doctor wrote,
That happen'd in my way.
Philosophy I now esteem'd,
the ornament of youth,
And carefully through many a page,
I hunted after truth,
A thousand virtuous schemes I try'd,
But found them all in vain,
I threw them by and tun'd my pipe,
To John of Badenyon.

And now ye youngsters everywhere,
Who want to make a show,
Take heed in time nor vainly hope,
For happiness below,
What you may fancy pleasure here,
Is but an empty name;
For girls and friends and books also,
you'd find them all the same.
Then be advis'd and warning take,
From such a man as me,
I'm neither Pope nor Cardinal,
Nor one of high degree,
Youl'll find displeasure everywhere,
Then do as I have done,
E'en tune your pipe an' please yourself,
To John of Badenyon.

doat-dote
John Wilks- 18th century reformer= known to be frivolous and dissipated.
Parson Horn- 18th century reformer Supported John Wilkes and supported his election committee.

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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: John of Badenyon
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 12 Jun 04 - 12:08 PM

Nice one, Conrad. Know any of its history? Incidentally you've got Wilkes spelt with and without and "e" at the bottom, the former being correct of course. I always thought how ironic it would be if John Wilkes Booth were named after/for him.

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: John of Badenyon
From: *#1 PEASANT*
Date: 12 Jun 04 - 01:34 PM

Will make corection it is now here:
http://www.geocities.com/matalzi/priests13.html#John of Badenyon

hayden did one
Franz Josef Haydn Catalogue
Musique vocale
XXXI. Arrangements

H 31a: Chants écossais (273)
24a 1801 John of Badenyon When first I came to be a man
Andantino (si bémol majeur)
avec violon, violoncelle et piano

Looking for more references....computer not happy...

CB

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: John of Badenyon
From: *#1 PEASANT*
Date: 12 Jun 04 - 01:36 PM

Here is another

Early American Secular Music and its European Sources, 1589-1839:
Source Data-A64.61
Return to Database Home Page
Title Song 61 (t), or John O'Badenyon (at)
Number A64.61
Short Title Calliope, 1788
Page 114-117
First Line When first I came to be a man (fl)
Verses 6
Time Signature C
Do C
Incipit //6535/6531+//1+2+1+6/51+//661+2+/3+2+1+5
Stress Notes 661563
Intervals -2,-3,3,2,-2,-3,6,2,-2,-3,-2,4,-3,3,2,2,-2,-2,-4,
Date 1788
Alternate Title John O'Badenyon (at). Song 61 (t), or
Instruments VO
Country E
Genre SC

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: John of Badenyon
From: *#1 PEASANT*
Date: 12 Jun 04 - 01:39 PM

Skinner, The Reverend John (1721 -1807)
The author of the song 'Tullochgorum' was born at Balfour, Aberdeenshire, the son of the schoolmaster of Birse. He was educated at Marischal College, Aberdeen, became assistant schoolmaster at Monymusk, took orders in the Scottish Episcopal Church in 1742, spent two years in Shetland as preceptor in the family of the Sinclairs of Scalloway, then, returning to Aberdeen, ministered at Longside, near Linshart, for the rest of his life.

He was the author of an Ecclesiastical History of Scotland and many other theological works, as well as 'Tullochgorum' and other Scots songs which included 'John o' Badenyon' and 'Ewie wi' the Crookit Horn'.-The Burns Encyclopedia

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: John of Badenyon
From: *#1 PEASANT*
Date: 12 Jun 04 - 01:43 PM

Badenyon
Aberdeenshire

The settlement of Badenyon is located at the head of Glenbuchat, to the north of Ladylea Hill, approximately 4 miles (6 km) north of Strathdon in Aberdeenshire. Badenyon is celebrated in the song "John o' Badenyon" by the ecclesiastical historian, the Rev. John Skinner (1721-1807).

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: John of Badenyon
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 12 Jun 04 - 01:44 PM

The song appeared in The Scots Musical Museum (III, 1790, no. 285), and subsequently in various popular songbooks and on broadsides. The example here is taken from one of Gwen Polwarth's books; either Folk Songs of Northumberland (1966 and 1967) or Folk Songs from the North (1970). She in turn got it from Thomas Hepple's MS (c.1855), images of which can now be seen online at the Farne archive.

Number 2592 in the Roud Folk Song Index.

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: John of Badenyon
From: *#1 PEASANT*
Date: 12 Jun 04 - 01:46 PM

One step ahead of me....

CB

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: John of Badenyon
From: *#1 PEASANT*
Date: 12 Jun 04 - 02:16 PM

Farn is a great place.....the wonders of gambling money put into the right place

Here is the
archive file from Farn
http://www.asaplive.com/archive/detail.asp?id=R0803701

Not much detail on "john"

Also only present in the original form.

Conrad

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: John of Badenyon
From: *#1 PEASANT*
Date: 12 Jun 04 - 05:44 PM

and more...

SKINNER, JOHN (1721-1807), Scottish author, son of John Skinner, a parish schoolmaster, was born at Balfour, Aberdeen-shire, on the 3rd of October 1721. He had been intended for the Presbyterian ministry, but, after passing through Marischal College, Aberdeen, and teaching for a few years, he took orders in the Episcopal Church, and was appointed to the charge of Longside in 1742. Very soon after Skinner joined the Episcopalians they became, in consequence of the Jacobite rebellion in 1745, a much persecuted remnant. Skinner's church was burnt; his house was plundered; for some years he had to minister to his congregation by stealth; and in 1753 he suffered six months' imprisonment for having officiated to more than four persons besides his own family. After 1760 the penal laws were less strictly enforced, but throughout the century the lot of the Episcopalian ministers in Scotland was far from comfortable, and only the humblest provisions for church services were tolerated. He died at the house of his son, John Skinner, bishop of Aberdeen, on the i6th of June 1807. It is by his few songs that Skinner is generally known. A correspondence took place between him and Burns, who considered his " Tullochgorum " " the best Scotch song Scotland ever saw," and procured his collaboration for Johnson's Musical Museum. Other of his lyrics are: " The Monymusk Christmas Ba'ing," a football idyll; " The Ewie wi' the Crookit Horn " and " John o' Badenyon." His best songs had stolen into print; a collection was not published till 1809, under the title of Amusements of Leisure Hours. Throughout his life Skinner was a vigorous student, and published in 1788 an Ecclesiastical History of Scotland (2 vols.) in the form of letters.

A Life of Skinner, in.connection with the history of Episcopacy in the north of Scotland, was published by the Rev. W. Walker in 1883. His songs and poems were edited by H. G. Reid (1859).

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: John of Badenyon
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 12 Jun 04 - 09:32 PM

Couldn't get that Farn archive link to work tonight. Maybe just a Mudcat-type glitch on their website - I'll try it again tomorrow. I'm amazed by what you two unearth by way of background to some of these songs.

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: John of Badenyon
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 12 Jun 04 - 09:45 PM

That link won't ever work; it's a server-side thing at their end. Unfortunately, you have to find things at Farne the slow way.

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: John of Badenyon
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Jun 04 - 10:34 PM

Actually Farne does not have all that much to say about the song.
Generally just a sentence or two not researched in depth just a summary and then a more detailed description of the collection as a whole.
Another aspect is that unlike my Beuk of Sangs they have scanned in the originals but not transcribed them. Interesting to see the originals but sometimes even though images are good you still need
transcription to put the song to work for you.

Who knows....maybe someone will find a lottery to channel my way....

A great project....
Strange though how some collections as in Armstrong are far from complete. Another handful of scans would have done it. Maybe they will get them all in eventually.

Conrad

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: John of Badenyon
From: Thomas the Rhymer
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 08:12 PM

Thanks for the song... I like it!

Who's got a good site for the tune?
ttr

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: John of Badenyon
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 08:21 PM

Staff notation at Farne.

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: John of Badenyon
From: Thomas the Rhymer
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 08:24 PM

I play by ear, dontchaknow... thanks, though... I'll make a note of it if I have to use the notation...
ttr

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: John of Badenyon
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 08:52 PM

I'm assuming that's ABC at the bottom of Conrad's first post. If so, can't that be used to produce midi output? If it is ABC, I can't do anything with it immediately, as I've not yet got round to re-installing ABC2Win since a recent PC clean-up.

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: John of Badenyon
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 09:13 PM

Conrad's abc transcription is made from the notation given in Gwen Polwarth's book, I think, rather than from the original transcription in Hepple (different key) but you can easily get a conversion to midi via

http://www.concertina.net/tunes_convert.html

Don't forget to remove the spaces at the beginning of each line that will result from copying-and-pasting from here, though, before submitting the abc.

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: John of Badenyon
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 09:24 PM

It does, incidentally, appear to be possible to link to a series of image files at Farne, though not to the (more useful) listing for them.

http://www.asaplive.com/Archive/show_images.asp?id=R0803701&image=1

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: John of Badenyon
From: Thomas the Rhymer
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 09:36 PM

I just located a program called 'Barfly'... and I'll soon see if I can get it to read. thanks. Is this tune similar to Hamish he carpenter?
ttr

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: John of Badenyon
From: *#1 PEASANT*
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 10:46 PM

The midi file is available via my songbook page-

http://www.geocities.com/matalzi/john_of_.mid

The notation image is

http://www.geocities.com/matalzi/badenyon.jpg

The directory in which you can find the whole lot is here
http://www.geocities.com/matalzi/priests13.html#

Anyone know anything else about the song or who John was.....

Conrad

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: John of Badenyon
From: Thomas the Rhymer
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 10:46 PM

Well then! Thanks Malcolm, for the link to the 'convert o matic'! Works like a charm. Quite thought provoking... that abc to midi format... Cheers! ttr