Angel Band

Subject: Angel Band
From:
Date: 18 Oct 98 - 09:44 AM

Can anyone send me the music to Angel Band, please? Chorus is "Oh, come, Angel Band. Come and around me stand." Thanks much. Stan

Subject: RE: Angel Band
From: Susan of DT
Date: 18 Oct 98 - 09:55 AM

Enter [angel band] in the blue search box to find the lyrics.

Subject: RE: Angel Band
From: Joe Offer
Date: 18 Oct 98 - 02:33 PM

....anybody wanna post the tune?
-Joe Offer-

Subject: Tune Add: ANGEL BAND
From: Barbara
Date: 18 Oct 98 - 05:46 PM

Say, Joe, is it my imagination, or are you and I the only people who use this software? (grin) Blessings,
Barbara

MIDI file: aband.mid

Timebase: 240

TimeSig: 6/8 36 8
Tempo: 100 (600000 microsec/crotchet)
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End

This program is worth the effort of learning it.

To download the March 10 MIDItext 98 software and get instructions on how to use it click here

ABC format:

X:1
T:
M:6/8
Q:1/4=100
K:C
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Subject: RE: Angel Band
From: Barbara
Date: 18 Oct 98 - 05:47 PM

Next time I'm just gonna call you up and HUM it.

Subject: RE: Angel Band
From: Joe Offer
Date: 18 Oct 98 - 05:59 PM

How do I put hums on paper, Barbara? Thank you very much for posting the tune. I think there are actually ten to 15 of us who use MIDITXT - Alison is probably the most reliable MIDITXTer among us. Then there are scads of lazy souls who skim the ABC tune off our postings...
I have lots of hymnals, but none had this song. I think a lot of the best old-time gospel songs aren't "churchy" enough for hymnals. Can anybody recommend a good old-time gospel songbook?
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: Angel Band
From: Barbara
Date: 18 Oct 98 - 06:19 PM

For a song that gets sung so much, this one is surprisingly hard to find written out. I learned it when I was singing shape notes in the Bay Area, but we didn't have it in the regular Sacred Harp book ordered from Beria, Kentucky. One member had it in Southern Harmony, a similarly formatted shape note book. We photocopied it, and shared it around.
Now today, I didn't spend the time to find that photocopy; I just posted what I remembered. And my memory tends to have some glitches in regards time. 1. I sometimes get the time signature wrong (I guessed that this was 6/8, hope I was right). 2.I tend to forget about rests, and miss on the length an end note is held. It's possible here in the chorus that each line ends with a note twice as long as I indicated.
So, those are your caveats. If I get more time later, I'll go look for the sheet music.
Blessings,
Barbara

Subject: RE: Angel Band
From: John in Brisbane
Date: 18 Oct 98 - 07:44 PM

Barbara,

Thanks for posting this tune. I try and do a bit to post tunes, but don't (yet) have the ability to turn it into dots from a tune in my head.

I went searching for Angel Band a few months back, found the Southern Harmony site, but was somewhat confused by the tablature (and the blurriness of the notation). Any clues as to how to interpret it please?

Regards
John

Subject: RE: Angel Band
From: Dale Rose
Date: 18 Oct 98 - 07:47 PM

It all comes down to a matter of opinion, but here is my choice for the "best" hymnal of old time gospel songs.

Heavenly Highway Hymns
(with shape notes)
Compiled by Luther G. Presley
Stamps-Baxter Music and Printing Company
A Division of Benson Music Group
Copyright 1956

You should be able to find it in any good Bible bookstore, if not, they can order it for you. Here are just a few of the 324 songs~~ After The Sunrise, Anchored In Love Divine, Are You Washed In The Blood, Come and Dine, Drifting Too Far From The Shore, Higher Ground, I Shall Not Be Moved, I'll Be List'ning, Kneel At The Cross, Mansion Over The Hilltop, On Jordan's Stormy Banks, Precious Memories, Rock Of Ages, Saved By Grace, The Old Gospel Ship, The Unclouded Day, There Is A Fountain, Victory In Jesus, Where The Roses Never Fade, Will There Be Any Stars.

Subject: RE: Angel Band
From: Barbara
Date: 18 Oct 98 - 08:04 PM

John, would you post a URL? I suspect you are just talking about shape notes (and bad resolution) Shape notes come in square, diamond, triangular and round. The idea behind the notation is that even if you can't read the note or key you will know what part of the chord it is. It was a way music was taught in this country beginning in the late 1700's, It began in New England (with Joshua Billings among others) and then spread south where it still is alive today.
Classic shape note tunes include What Wondrous Love and Precious Memories, Rocky Road, Bound for the Promised Land. Most of the tunes in Sacred Harp are named after places (Idumea; Concord) and many are contrapuntal (fuging tunes). The one everyone knows, fuging part goes "Fly swift around ye wheels of time (2x) and bring the promised day", I can't remember its name right this moment.
Start a thread asking about shape notes if you want more of an explanation. My memory's rusty.
Blessings,
Barbara

Subject: RE: Angel Band
From: John in Brisbane
Date: 18 Oct 98 - 09:30 PM

Barbara,

The URL is http://ccel.wheaton.edu/s/southern_harmony/sharm/sharm/contents.html

I must admit I had not realised that the site also includes Midis, so don't need help on reading the notation. I also note for the first time that part of the site gives tips on the best browsers to use to get a clearer GIF display.

Regards
John

Subject: RE: Angel Band
From: mcmud
Date: 18 Oct 98 - 11:36 PM

This song is on the Hedy West and Bill Clifton album "Getting Folk Out of the Country." Let me know if you want their verses posted.

Subject: Tune Add: ANGEL BAND^^
From: Joe Offer
Date: 19 Oct 98 - 02:05 AM

McMud, if the lyrics are different from those in the database, please do post them. Thanks.

Well, Barbara, my Significant Other didn't think your rendition was quite right. Here's my transcription from Jerry Silverman's Folk Song Encyclopedia, which, by the way, has a number of those old gospel songs I've been looking for.
-Joe Offer-

MIDI file: ANGELB~1.MID

Timebase: 192

Name: ANGEL BAND
Text: Generated by NoteWorthy Composer
TimeSig: 3/4 24 8
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End

This program is worth the effort of learning it.

To download the March 10 MIDItext 98 software and get instructions on how to use it click here

ABC format:

X:1
T:Angel Band
M:3/4
Q:1/4=120
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^^

Subject: RE: Angel Band
From: Barbara
Date: 19 Oct 98 - 02:37 AM

Intr'stin' Joe, The chorus is pretty similar, but your verse tune isn't familiar to me; tho I did try singing mine on top of it, and it's possible I have a harmony part. Shape notes tend to put the melody in the tenor, and I may be remembering one of the other lines.
Ever heard Faith sing it? In my mind's ear, I hear her voice when I hear the words.
So we may just have a testimonial here to the folk process. Some of the passing notes in your version were slides or grace notes the way I learned it.
Blessings,
Barbara

Subject: RE: Angel Band
From: Barbara
Date: 19 Oct 98 - 02:42 AM

Wait! I GOT IT! I have a version on the Jean Redpath/Lisa Neustadt tape called "Angels Hovering Round". Too late tonight, but I'll go listen tomorrow, and see what their tune is.
B*

Subject: RE: Angel Band
From: Roy de Tucson
Date: 20 Oct 98 - 01:47 AM

Angel Band & Angels Hovering 'Round are not same song. Both very nice though.

Subject: RE: Angel Band
From: Barbara
Date: 20 Oct 98 - 02:56 AM

They are both lovely songs. The collection of gospel songs by Redpath/Neustadt is called "Angels Hovering 'Round", and one of the songs on this IMHO underpurchased classic is "Angel Band". I think. I still haven't found the tape.
Besides the title track and Angel Band, the tape includes: Precious Mem'ries, Down On My Knees, Light from the Lighthouse, Lower Lights, Harbor Bells of Heaven, Canaan's Land, Have thine Own Way Lord, No Home in this World Anymore, and a bunch more.
It's still available, because I ordered a copy a couple weeks back for a friend.
Blessings,
Barbara

Subject: RE: Angel Band
From: rich r
Date: 20 Oct 98 - 10:20 PM

Lisa and Jean have another album of similar songs called "Anywhere Is Home". Album contains: Turn Your Radio On; Standing ON The Promises; Life's Railway To Heaven; Let The Lower Lights Be Burning; Grey Funnel Line (not exactly old time gospel); Run Come See Jerusalem; Near The Cross and others. Interestingly, their collection of backup singers calls themselves The Angel Band.

A nice version of " Angel Band" can be found on the EmmyLou Harris album of gospel songs by the same name.

Joe,

Looking for old time gospel songbooks. ONe you might find is :" Albert E Brumley's Olde Time Camp Meetin' Songs" c 1971, Camp Meetin' Song Book, 342 West Hiwy 54, Camdenton, MO 65020. It is a paperback with 60+ songs. Among them are: Beautiful Isle of Somewhere; Bringing In The Sheaves; Diamonds In The Rough; Farther Along; I'll Fly Away; Nothing But The Blood; Precious Memories; Softly & Tenderly; Great Speckled Bird; The Old Time Religion; Picture From Life's Other Side; Royal Telephone; Unclouded Day; Where The Soul Never Dies; Never Grow Old; many others including on p23 O Come Angel Band.

I bought my copy in the last 10 years at a Minnesota State Park gift shop so it may still be around.

A book with 184 songs, but maybe harder to find is: Rodeheaver's Gospel Solos and Duets. c 1925 Rodeheaver Co., Chicago This one was my mother's

Also: Tabernacle Hymns Number Three, c 1934 Tabernacle Publishing Co. Chicago. This one has 350 songs in it. I presume there was a Number 1 and 2 in the series. The title page says "Printed in round and shaped notes", but there ain't no shape notes I can find in my copy so there may have been two separate printings.

Rich R

Subject: RE: Angel Band
From: Joe Offer
Date: 21 Oct 98 - 04:53 AM

Thanks, Rich - I found a good one I forgot I had - a gospel songbook by Wayne Erbsen, published by Mel Bay, called Old Time Gospel Songbook. My copy didn't last long. My Significant Other discovered it on the shelf today, and now it's at her house. The Erbsen songbooks can be ordered direct from Wayne's "Native Ground Music" publishing company at [phone] (or click on the link).
Click here for a thread on the Brumley songbooks. They're darn good, but I keep looking for bigger and better.
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: Angel Band
From:
Date: 23 Oct 98 - 09:08 AM

All of this information is very interesting and enlightening but would someone please FAX me the music for Angel Band. We want our church choir to sing it but can't do so without music notation for the piano and/or organ. Thanks FAX is 760 727-6555

Subject: RE: Angel Band
From:
Date: 23 Oct 98 - 02:21 PM

Many thanks to Bill in Alabama for FAXing me the music to Angel Band. Just what I needed. Isn't the Internet great?! Stan

Subject: RE: Angel Band
From: Joe Offer
Date: 23 Oct 98 - 03:27 PM

Stan, you may want to download a MIDI program like Noteworthy Composer, so you can print up sheet music from MIDIs. You can actually do quite a bit with the program without paying the $40 registration fee, but it's really great when you pay the fee and get the code to unleash all the features of the program. To post or copy tunes from the forum here, you need the free MIDITXT prorgam - there's a link for downloading MIDITXT everywhere that we have tunes posted in the forum (tunes in the database are already in downloadable MIDI format).
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: Angel Band
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 23 Oct 98 - 09:22 PM

Joe- We're in the final stages of negotiating for a freeware version of MusicEase specifically tailored to Mudcatters' needs, and downloadable from this site. It will play and print scores with SongWright, MIDI or ABC inputs.

Watch this space!

Subject: RE: Angel Band
From: Barry Finn
Date: 23 Oct 98 - 09:49 PM

The Angel Band were not known as a backup band for Lisa & Jean, who were the better known names of the bunch, but as group that that oozed & dripped with vocal talent. Tom Gibney as of late sings with Poor Ol Horse (Heather Wood & Davey Jones), Sandy Davis & Sarah Gregory have been performing together & with others for eons, Sara Newcomb, Jim McDade have also been greats to hear & Shari Ajemian, an incredible voice (& fiddler) has gone to directing theather, I believe, years ago. I think they all sang in a local (Boston) Sacred Harp gathering together. The thing that amazes me the most about them is the shear size of the talent (& I don't mean that some were large), it's not often you could round up 8 singers like that & keep that high going longer than a night on the town. Barry

Subject: RE: Angel Band
From: Bill D
Date: 24 Oct 98 - 12:04 AM

Joe & Barbara.....and others.. I downloaded Miditxt etc..months ago...but I never got it to do what I though it should...do you all TYPE that tune? or do you 'make' a midi and then translate it??

the first line says "Obtain or create the MIDI file by whatever means you can" and there I stand...

Subject: RE: Angel Band
From: Joe Offer
Date: 24 Oct 98 - 02:11 AM

That's where the process gets complicated, Bill - you gotta have some sort of software to produce the MIDI, like Noteworthy, or the MusicEase software Dick is talking about. Once you have the MIDI file, MIDITXT translates it into text for posting, and back to a MIDI for playback. Actually, it's a logical process and not all that complicated. You'd be amazed how fast I can copy a tune from a songbook and post it in the forum.
Sounds like you who haven't got MIDI software may want to wait until Max & Dick finish their negotiations. MusicEase has a test or shareware version available for download, but the registration is $79.95. The freeware setup that Dick & Max are working on should be better for us. Hmmmm. Now, I wonder if there will be an updated tune player in the PC version of the database....
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: Angel Band
From: Bill D
Date: 24 Oct 98 - 02:33 PM

ok..thanks, Joe...that's sort of what I had concluded..I will look forward to whatever freeware they are cooking up...then, at some point, I will pour neat tunes out like a broken spigot..