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51st Sidmouth festival

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John Golightly 04 Nov 04 - 06:25 AM
GUEST,Lizzie in Sidmouth 04 Nov 04 - 06:00 AM
fiddler 04 Nov 04 - 03:43 AM
GUEST,Chris Wale 04 Nov 04 - 03:38 AM
Tony Day 04 Nov 04 - 01:14 AM
GUEST,Roger Hayes 03 Nov 04 - 08:17 PM
Tony Day 03 Nov 04 - 07:49 PM
John Golightly 03 Nov 04 - 06:05 PM
GUEST,Roger Hayes 03 Nov 04 - 11:33 AM
GUEST,Stuart Hughes 03 Nov 04 - 10:30 AM
el_punkoid_nouveau 03 Nov 04 - 08:37 AM
GUEST,Lizzie...Dancing in Sidmouth 03 Nov 04 - 08:08 AM
GUEST,Stuart Hughes 02 Nov 04 - 06:44 PM
MBSLynne 02 Nov 04 - 06:31 PM
steve_harris 02 Nov 04 - 06:01 PM
steve_harris 02 Nov 04 - 05:35 PM
GUEST,Lizzie..... in the Land of The SoH Cream Te 02 Nov 04 - 01:02 PM
John Routledge 02 Nov 04 - 12:38 PM
steve_harris 02 Nov 04 - 12:12 PM
steve_harris 02 Nov 04 - 11:48 AM
steve_harris 02 Nov 04 - 11:25 AM
steve_harris 02 Nov 04 - 11:14 AM
manitas_at_work 02 Nov 04 - 11:11 AM
GUEST 02 Nov 04 - 11:10 AM
Merina 02 Nov 04 - 10:40 AM
Tony Day 02 Nov 04 - 01:26 AM
Sttaw Legend 01 Nov 04 - 06:50 PM
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Subject: RE: 51st Sidmouth festival
From: John Golightly
Date: 04 Nov 04 - 06:25 AM

OK Lizzie, here goes:

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Several people have expressed a wish to terminate this thread and replace it with 2 others.

If you have news, questions (straight, not rhetorical), suggestions, or something positive/constructive/forward-looking to say,
then please go to
Sidmouth 2005+ - news, info & support


If you have a problem with the way things are going, or with which individuals is/are involved in helping them go that way, or if you want to discuss past history or high-level strategic issues, or ask a rhetorical question, then try

Sidmouth 2005+ - opinions


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Subject: RE: 51st Sidmouth festival
From: GUEST,Lizzie in Sidmouth
Date: 04 Nov 04 - 06:00 AM

Well, all I can say is that I'm looking forward to dancing on the seafront with Roger Hayes and Steve Harris next August! :-) :-)

Sun's out again today, glistening on the waves and shining all the way from Salcombe Hill to Peak Hill!

PLEASE start those New Titles John!!

Lizzie


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Subject: RE: 51st Sidmouth festival
From: fiddler
Date: 04 Nov 04 - 03:43 AM

Joe Clones - see the latest posts and praps take some action please!

We are asking you for once!

Andy


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Subject: RE: 51st Sidmouth festival
From: GUEST,Chris Wale
Date: 04 Nov 04 - 03:38 AM

I am amazed by the type of comments from some of you guys, we trying to support Sidmouth here and the many who enjoy folk music as a whole. Lets stop the belittling and the egoism and join together in making and supporting the Sidmouth Festival 2005.

How many of you know Stuart on a personal basis? I've had the pleasure of working not as a Councillor but in the capacity as an individual member of the public as Stuart is also (and a family man)and we work for the interests of Sidmouth Town and valley. Lets detach the politics in some of these issues, and get on with the job of allowing a 2005 festival to take place.

Well done Lizze, great to see some common sense statements>>>

All the best
Chris


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Subject: RE: 51st Sidmouth festival
From: Tony Day
Date: 04 Nov 04 - 01:14 AM

Fine! When you see the full programme is the time to decide whether to come or not - and that won't be for a couple of months yet. Please don't decide on the basis of Mudcat's sometimes rather malicious meanderings!

Tony


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Subject: RE: 51st Sidmouth festival
From: GUEST,Roger Hayes
Date: 03 Nov 04 - 08:17 PM

Thank you Tony. I will wait and see how the proposed 51st festival takes shape before deciding whether to attend. I do support those who are working hard to make things happen but I also hope they really do know what they are doing as half a festival could be worse than no festival at all.


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Subject: RE: 51st Sidmouth festival
From: Tony Day
Date: 03 Nov 04 - 07:49 PM

Sounds good to me John Golightly! Split the thread, and kill this one! (How do you do that?)

And apols to Roger Hayes, as you are clearly real (unlike at least some of the other posts! Identical punctuation errors!!) But please, don't desert Sidmouth just yet - not only might you regret it deeply, but you sound the sort of person I for one would like to see in town next August.

Tony


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Subject: RE: 51st Sidmouth festival
From: John Golightly
Date: 03 Nov 04 - 06:05 PM

Hey Guys

This thread is getting into a deep deep hole, and should be terminated. Forthwith.

The problem is that there are a few enthusiasts who are deeply committed to "resurrecting a folk festival" (to quote el punkoid nouveau [thanks!]), who are trying to using this thread in a positive manner, to inform mudcatters about what's happening, and to glean constructive ideas from the silent majority.

Instead of which the thread has become a thoroughly and deeply boring and puerile exchange of shots between various individuals, of such a size that it takes me B**** ages to download it.

Let's wipe the slate clean.

I suggest 2 new threads.

The first - "Sidmouth 2005+ - news, info & support". If you have news, or something positive or constructive to say , then this is the place.

The second - "Sidmouth 2005+ - opinions" - if you have a problem with the way things are going, or which individual is involved in helping them go that way, then it's all yours.

Mr "Burnley Cloggies" - feel free to contribute to the second of these . Maybe it's just as well that there's no such side - otherwise they would probably have come and cloggied all over you for speaking on their behalf..and Merina - I have just the thing for you - try
http://www.whatsonwhen.com/print/viewevent.asp?id=15012
(I'm deadly serious here... have a look)

I won't start the 2 threads unless there's some support - but I feel strongly that we need to do something here. If anyone wants to start them on their own - feel free.

Many thanks to all (esp. Lizzie, MBSLynne, Cats, Herga, Tony, The Barden of England and others)who have tried to brighten up our lives and move things forward.

I mentioned the silent majority...if you are a "lurker" and you have been trawling through this lot, and you agree with what I say then speak up PLEASE on this thread - are you out there? (sorry for shouting)

John Golightly


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Subject: RE: 51st Sidmouth festival
From: GUEST,Roger Hayes
Date: 03 Nov 04 - 11:33 AM

As Stuart Hughes was a Monster Raving Loony Councillor before becoming a Conservative (is there any difference?) then that certainly makes him suitable for organising next year's Festival. Only a raving nutter would try and do what experienced professionals could not, organise a Festival that adds up financially without EDDCs £60,000 funding AND satisfies all the Council's environmental health and safety regulations. Just because Stuart is a councillor he won't be able to avoid the latter. Health & Safety regulations are VERY strict these days and they apply to the Festival irrespective of who the organiser is. As for Tony Day's earlier post asking if I exist, you should know Tony as you spent quite a time chatting to me only a few weeks ago. You didn't know my name. You certainly know my face!


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Subject: RE: 51st Sidmouth festival
From: GUEST,Stuart Hughes
Date: 03 Nov 04 - 10:30 AM

Well said el punkoid nouveau....'I didn't start this'.
Lets get on with the job in hand, that being to put on a festival in 2005 that will lay the foundations for 2006.

Stuart


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Subject: RE: 51st Sidmouth festival
From: el_punkoid_nouveau
Date: 03 Nov 04 - 08:37 AM

Oh for God's Sake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I thought we were trying to resurrect a folk festival - we have several people here harping on about the politics of Sidmouth Town Council, and who was in which Political Party. Can we forget the effing politics, work together with the guys like Tony and Bill, and put something together?

I thought that for the first time in years, I might actually enjoy teh festival next year - but if you guys don't stop bickering, there won't be time to organise it. Put yer bloody egos down - especially Seered - and think about what you are trying to achieve.

Share and enjoy!

epn


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Subject: RE: 51st Sidmouth festival
From: GUEST,Lizzie...Dancing in Sidmouth
Date: 03 Nov 04 - 08:08 AM

So Steve said " Hmmm but can you dance Lizzie? (or something like that anyway!!!)"

Steve! Can I DANCE? I'm starting to OYSTER DANCE!! Hands Above Your Head Dancing! Swaying! Jumping! Rocking! Shouting! Joyous Kind of Gypsy Dancing! Wild!!   Not only have I discovered Show of Hands but I've discovered The Oysterband too!!! Whooo!

How can a person have SO MUCH luck in one lifetime AND get to live in Beautiful Sidmouth! Home of the Best Folk Festival in The World!

It's a Truly Beautiful day down here in Sidmouth, the sun is sparkling on the sea, (sorry guys if this is making you fed up!)
The Arena is drying out nicely after the rain, and in just 7/8 months I will be sitting down on the grass singing Show of Hands 'Country Life' at the top of my voice....And CROOKED MAN...Oh Wow! Seriously brilliant song!!! Just listen to this:

"There was a Crooked Man with a Crooked Smile,
He made his plans and walked a Crooked Mile,
He went to live in the big house,
Then started fires no one could douse.
He fanned the flames and he poured on oil,
Till the desert burned and the ocean bolied,
At night in the darkness of his room,
The Crooked Man danced to another's tune.    !!!!!!!! :-) Wow!

And THAT's just the First Verse!!!! Very appropriate song for Tony and George!

?????????Why does The Department of Culture pour money into Casinos but will give NOTHING towards our FOLK FESTIVALS?????????? Apparently has to keep at 'Arm's Length' from any such decision!! Are they at 'Arm's Length' from Casinos?? Tessa Jowell seems to be lying across the tables!!! I'm puzzled!


Well...I'm just off to look at The Sidmouth Fiddler,(I think we should have a statue of STEVE HEAP in Connaught Gardens as well, because we owe him SO much!)

Then I'm going to dip my toes in the sea and imagine my town Alive with All Of You!!! And Dream that maybe, just maybe The Oysterband can come as well!!! Show of Hands AND Those Oysters.......just the thought is too much!!!!

Lizzie :-)


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Subject: RE: 51st Sidmouth festival
From: GUEST,Stuart Hughes
Date: 02 Nov 04 - 06:44 PM

Unfortunateley the website which carries my so called political history hasn't quite got the story correct. I was indeed elected as Britain's first ever Raving Loony to a District Council in 1991 and took a seat from the sitting Conservative. The following day I was elected to the Town Council as an Independent (No party politics on Sidmouth Town Council) I was elected to the County Council in 1993 as an Independent. I joined the Conservative Party in 1997. Hope that that has set the record straight..... now how about concentrating on Sidmouth Folk Week 2005 and beyond....... Over to you Lizzie


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Subject: RE: 51st Sidmouth festival
From: MBSLynne
Date: 02 Nov 04 - 06:31 PM

That's where we run the "Ashby de la Zouch folk club" on the first Friday night. It has run for 14 years and will do so again next year

Love Lynne


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Subject: RE: 51st Sidmouth festival
From: steve_harris
Date: 02 Nov 04 - 06:01 PM

"the storytellers will be back. We are looking for a suitable venue to hold sessions in for informal storytelling"

Excellent news! I would like to see a return to more particpative events.

Have you heard of a pub called the "Volunteer" with a garden? :-))))))


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Subject: RE: 51st Sidmouth festival
From: steve_harris
Date: 02 Nov 04 - 05:35 PM

Lizzie said: "Come to Sidmouth 2005 Steve, and I will teach you how to make a Cream Tea whilst listening to my Show of Hands CD's! Two Magical Moments in just one day!! Irresistible!!! :-) :-) :-)"

Hmm, but can you dance? :-)


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Subject: RE: 51st Sidmouth festival
From: GUEST,Lizzie..... in the Land of The SoH Cream Te
Date: 02 Nov 04 - 01:02 PM

Dear Steve,

My God! You're RIGHT!! Show of Hands COULD WELL be compared to a Cream Tea! Why haven't I seen it before!!!!


Something you wait with Melting Anticipation to experience all year round!

A Truly Sumptuous Treat on a Summer's Afternoon!

The warmth of those scones, only equal in sensation to the warmth of a Show of Hands Audience!

Something that stays in your memory all the way home and for many months later!

The care that you take when spreading the cream, the jam, and the eagerness with which hand lifts scone to mouth, only equal to the care that you take when you unpack your brand new Show of Hands DVD, (The Big Gig and Stairway to Devon combined!!!)and put it eagerly, but oh so gently, in your DVD player!

And that Melt in the Mouth Moment....when scone and cream and jam combine.....just like the first time you heard 'Cousin Jack' filling the air in The Arena a few years back! A truly unforgettable moment
when Cornish history, miner and emigrant are brought together, topped deliciously with the haunting fiddle of Phil Beer and drizzling with Steve Knightley's wonderful lyrics!

And both only ever to be found in Devon and Cornwall! Home of the Original Cream Tea and the Incredibly Original Show of Hands!!

And you ALWAYS remember your very first Cream Tea, just as you remember your first Show of Hands concert, when you fell in love with a music the like of which you'd never heard before!! :-) :-)

Come to Sidmouth 2005 Steve, and I will teach you how to make a Cream Tea whilst listening to my Show of Hands CD's! Two Magical Moments in just one day!! Irresistible!!! :-) :-) :-)

Phew! Need a cup of tea after that!!

Lizzie :-)


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Subject: RE: 51st Sidmouth festival
From: John Routledge
Date: 02 Nov 04 - 12:38 PM

Just the sort of guy to be running a folk Festival :0)


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Subject: RE: 51st Sidmouth festival
From: steve_harris
Date: 02 Nov 04 - 12:12 PM

Actually, I didn't really do Stuart Hughes justice. "Colourful", no he's "extremely colourful". Here's an extract from http://www.ebroadcast.com.au/lookup/encyclopedia/of/Official_Monster_Raving_Loony_Party.html

the first Raving Loony to win as a result of a straight vote (as opposed to being elected unopposed) was Stuart Hughes taking the safe Conservative seat of Sidmouth Wolbrook on East Devon District Council (he then took a seat on the Sidmouth Town Council from the Conservatives the following day) in May 1991. His election was met with fury and quite disproportionate hostility from the local Tories. Hughes reaction was to make their lives an absolute misery for the next three years (this included refusing to pay his Poll Tax and then dumping a load of scrap metal in the middle of the council chambers to the value of his unpaid "Community Charge"), and forming an alliance known as "The Coastals" (because of the seats they held) of Independants and the sole Green Party councillor that gave East Devon's ruling Conservatives the first true opposition they'd faced for decades (the local Liberal Democrat and Labour Parties being negligble).

Hughes was to retain his seats when up for election with increased majorities, and the final humiliation for the Conservatives came when he took the Devon County Council seat from the local party's Chief Whip in the council. Hughes remains a member of all three councils to this day.


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Subject: RE: 51st Sidmouth festival
From: steve_harris
Date: 02 Nov 04 - 11:48 AM

Google fan: "Or if you want to know all about Stuart (councillor) Hughes just put [stuart hughes + sidmouth] into http://www.google.co.uk"

Interesting reading indeed. The man seems to be a politician :-) And a colourful one. It is surprising that a town like Sidmouth has contnued to elect him - the place has gone up in my eyes. But, Oh dear, his polical opponents don't like him!


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Subject: RE: 51st Sidmouth festival
From: steve_harris
Date: 02 Nov 04 - 11:25 AM

Lizzie said: "I mean, just imagine.... 2005, a hot summer's day, a packed Arena, all of us sitting on the hill, when suddenly....Show of Hands appear on stage!!... What a PERFECT afternoon! Steve, you CAN'T miss that, you just CAN'T!"

I'd rather be dancing, at a story-tellihng session or trying a cream tea workshop :-)


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Subject: RE: 51st Sidmouth festival
From: steve_harris
Date: 02 Nov 04 - 11:14 AM

``mailing list remains with Steve Heap and Mrs. Casey Music. Are they likely to release it to the Council (and Councillor) who forced them out of Sidmouth? I guess not. ''

There's a more attractive possibility than that anyway. Ask Steve Heap to mail out an envelope containing a Sidmouth 05 leaflet plus some leaflets about his own projects.

He might do it for less than the cost of all those stamps. Thinkk win-win


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Subject: RE: 51st Sidmouth festival
From: manitas_at_work
Date: 02 Nov 04 - 11:11 AM

Dranouter in Belgium is a good one. A small village in a National Park on the French border (just a bus ride from Lille) is swamped by thousands of folkies. Lots of Euro-folk, World Music and a fair few bands from Britain and Ireland. Often top acts from pop, rock and country are on the main stage.


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Subject: RE: 51st Sidmouth festival
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Nov 04 - 11:10 AM

Whitby late August Google for the rest
I think I'll join you after reading about these children


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Subject: RE: 51st Sidmouth festival
From: Merina
Date: 02 Nov 04 - 10:40 AM

Having struggled through this thread:

My first Sidmouth: 2004 festival superbly professionally organised, nearly 1000 events, wild LNEs at the Dance House, and the likes of Bellowhead and Banditaliana.

Possible 2005 festival: dodgy organisation, dances in school halls, the Wurzels and Show Of Hands.

No contest: I'm off to see what festivals take place over in Europe around the beginning of August. Any recommendations?


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Subject: RE: 51st Sidmouth festival
From: Tony Day
Date: 02 Nov 04 - 01:26 AM

Er...Sttaw Legend.....have you actually MET Lynne???????

(Er, touche Lynne, as Clouseau might say, if he could find the accent thingy on 'is keyboard! :-))

Love Tony

PS Lizzie - you clearly haven't seen moi dance, and sorry I can't take you to torchlight, as I have to do certain things in a certain Anchor bar at that particular time....

I know a man who might, though!

Tony


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Subject: RE: 51st Sidmouth festival
From: Sttaw Legend
Date: 01 Nov 04 - 06:50 PM

"I'll be thrown out of the club"

I feel sure people will only be to willing to put you back in the club.


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Subject: RE: 51st Sidmouth festival
From: MBSLynne
Date: 01 Nov 04 - 05:50 PM

Sttaw Legend..I get excited on ALL the threads!!! But yes, it's an innuendo I missed! Damn! I'll be thrown out of the club!!

Love Lynne


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Subject: RE: 51st Sidmouth festival
From: Sttaw Legend
Date: 01 Nov 04 - 04:31 PM

"let's keep it up"

MBSLynne doesn't this belong on your other thread, I think you're getting excited?


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Subject: RE: 51st Sidmouth festival
From: MBSLynne
Date: 01 Nov 04 - 04:23 PM

Well that's better isn't it? Positive postings...no bitching...let's keep it up!!!

Love Lynne


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Subject: RE: 51st Sidmouth festival
From: John Golightly
Date: 01 Nov 04 - 12:48 PM

..and further to my last, I have just learned that East Devon District Coucil will keep their website at http://www.eastdevon.gov.uk/index/community/leisure/sidmouth_international_festival_news.htm open for now, until the replacement mentioned in my last posting is up and running.

Any details entered there will be forwarded to me anyway...

Cheers

John G


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Subject: RE: 51st Sidmouth festival
From: Cats
Date: 01 Nov 04 - 12:44 PM

And apart from the dancers, singers and musicians, the storytellers will be back. We are looking for a suitable venue to hold sessions in for informal storytelling and already 2 well known storytellers have offered their services to do their 3/4 hour one person epics, one on the seal cycle of stories and one doing the story of Joan Wytte, the Fighting Fairy Woman of Bodmin who ended up as an exhibit in the Boscastle Witchcraft Museum. Both very rare opportunities to witness storytelling on this scale - the old bardic tradition. So, any storytellers out there who want to get involved - pm me.


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Subject: RE: 51st Sidmouth festival
From: John Golightly
Date: 01 Nov 04 - 11:47 AM

Hi All

I am one of the (in Tony Day's words) "two dozen people who spent an amicable, enthusiastic and hard working three and a half hours on the 23rd, putting together the bones of what is going to be a very enjoyable festival"

This is my personal view:

Everything I saw and heard was positive. There was no dissent, bickering or whingeing. There was a spirit of active and enthusiastic cooperation between people who had previously been working separately, and are now working together very much as a team.

Those present have different types of background & experience from inside and outside the folk world, and from inside and outside Sidmouth. I feel these individuals will complement and assist each other very well in putting on a worthwhile festival in 2005.

It won't be the same, of course. Neither will it be easy.
The "feel" will be the same as ever, I'm sure, but the execution (and scale) may well be quite different, so if you don't like change then brace yourself.

We'll see - bear with us, & keep the positive comments coming.

In answer to the question from "Guest (curious)" as to how festival-goers can be kept informed...we are building a mailing list from scratch, based on the expressions of interest already received via the EDDC website, the leaflets distributed at Towersey and people who have given their details to Bill Lankaster, or via the Email adress sidmouthfringe05@AOL.com.

This mailing list is in my custody at present.

I am still trying to find out whether the East Devon District Council website will continue to provide the facility for people to register their interest - but I suspect not. However it is planned that the new site at www.sidmouthfolkweek.org.uk will have the same functionality by late November.

In the meantime, if you'd like to be kept informed, please Email me your name (and snail-mail address if you really must - but we haven't bought any stamps yet!). Please set the "subject" to SIDLIST, or your Email will be discarded as spam.

I/we can give the usual undertaking that your details will not be passed on to any other organisation without your express permission.

My address is my name with a dot in the middle, then the squiggly thing, then "Rawlinson", then a dash, then "Hunter", then a dot, then "GG".

Please don't expect weekly - or even monthly updates - we all have day jobs too, and there's an awful lot to do! But we will do our best to keep you up to date.

That's all for now....watch this space, though.


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Subject: RE: 51st Sidmouth festival
From: MBSLynne
Date: 01 Nov 04 - 10:32 AM

Er...Lizzie.....have you actually MET Tony Day??????? Don't rush in before you do!

(Sorry Tony! :-))

Love Lynne


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Subject: RE: 51st Sidmouth festival
From: GUEST,Lizzie.....in glorious Sidmouth
Date: 01 Nov 04 - 09:57 AM

Well Tony, I'm going to Sidmouth 2005!!! No-one, but NO-ONE is going to put me off! Had to miss 2004 due to illness, not going to miss a second of 2005 though!!

Will you dance with me on the Seafront, in The Arena, or up at the Late Next Extra? I just love a man with a French Accent!! You could sing Show of Hands 'Country Life' to me in French...Oh! Mon Dieu!

Will you 'Follow me Down' (almost a Show of Hands song there! Whooo!) to The Torchlight Procession or up to Salcombe Hill to hear the music drifiting lazily up to heaven, and the cheers of the crowds as their favourite acts entertain them? We can watch the seafront from up there, absolutely thronged with people of every age, colour, and background. All having the time of their lives! So much to see and hear and enjoy!

Au Revoir Mon Cherie!

Lizzie


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Subject: RE: 51st Sidmouth festival
From: Tony Day
Date: 01 Nov 04 - 07:00 AM

Clouseau ici

I like some 'elp in the searching for many missing persons on le catmud. Zer is ze mysterious "Cloggies from Burnley",
"Roger 'ayes", "Google fan", and "On ze Make".

My enquiries they reveal two things: all these mysterious "guests" subscribe to the same illogical thought processs about Sidmouth Festival. None of them have ever made any other posting to mudcat (click on their handles to confirm).

My suspicious mind he say "are zeez characters real? Or are they all one person, with one boring agenda, having zee spuddle?"

Well, all I can say to someone who 'as just arrived and says they are going again is "au revoir".

Clouseau, he know who you are!

Anon (not).


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Subject: RE: 51st Sidmouth festival
From: GUEST,On The Make
Date: 01 Nov 04 - 06:07 AM

I did as Google Fan suggested. It scared me. Stuart (councillor) Hughes seems more interested in himself than the festival. I think I'll give 2005 a miss and will wait for reports from others before deciding whether to return in 2006.   Andy B


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Subject: RE: 51st Sidmouth festival
From: GUEST,Google fan
Date: 01 Nov 04 - 05:31 AM

Or if you want to know all about Stuart (councillor) Hughes just put [stuart hughes + sidmouth] into http://www.google.co.uk

Ticking "just pages from the UK" avoids material from the USA. This is the advantage of using the .co.uk rather than the .com version of Google


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Subject: RE: 51st Sidmouth festival
From: GUEST,Google fan
Date: 01 Nov 04 - 05:22 AM

How to find out about Sidmouth 2005?? Try asking Google! Most people will not be thinking about it until after Christmas anyway. There is a long way to go yet.


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Subject: RE: 51st Sidmouth festival
From: MBSLynne
Date: 01 Nov 04 - 03:11 AM

Just have patience Guest Curious.....all will be well.
And a lot of people who go to Sidmouth every year will turn up anyway...like most of the people who regularly do the fringe things.

Totally agree Lizzie...it's going to be really great...I can't wait!!!

Love Lynne


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Subject: RE: 51st Sidmouth festival
From: GUEST,Curious
Date: 31 Oct 04 - 07:24 PM

If there is to be a festival in 2005 how will everyone who attended in 2004 hear about it? I guess that only a relative handful know of this board. Most got their information through the Sidmouth festival mailshots. And who has the mailing list? Not Stuart, not Chris, not Barry, not Lizzie, not Rhyzla, not East Devon Council. No, I guess the mailing list remains with Steve Heap and Mrs. Casey Music. Are they likely to release it to the Council (and Councillor) who forced them out of Sidmouth? I guess not.


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Subject: RE: 51st Sidmouth festival
From: rhyzla
Date: 31 Oct 04 - 03:27 PM

Well , all I can say is, at last some positivity - amen to that!!

Well done Lizzie,   

Barry!!


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Subject: RE: 51st Sidmouth festival
From: GUEST,Lizzie...still in Beautiful Sidmouth!!
Date: 31 Oct 04 - 02:55 PM

Earlier, Steve Harris mentioned that Show of Hands were not to his particular taste. Oh No! Steve! Surely Not? This can't be true!!
:-) :-)

I mean, just imagine.... 2005, a hot summer's day, a packed Arena, all of us sitting on the hill, when suddenly....Show of Hands appear on stage!!...Wow!!.....Maybe 'Tall Ships' 'You're Mine' or 'The Galway Farmer' echoing up through the Chestnut trees, the sun sparkling on the sea, away in the distance! The buses going up and down taking colourful, happy people
all around the town! What a PERFECT afternoon! Steve, you CAN'T miss that, you just CAN'T!

And down on the seafront, those Gorgeous Morris Dancers in their wild and colourful costumes, clacking away with their sticks and all those accordian players gently playing, with the sound of the waves in the background! Jacob's Ladder filled with Folkies and that incredible Tea Room at the top that does 'those' cakes, 3 feet high! All this and Show of Hands music drifting gently up to Salcombe Hill!

And Roger Hayes and The Burnley Cloggies, are you out there?

Now listen, you can't leave me all alone in Sidmouth next year! I wait for 51 weeks a year for my town to be filled with loving, joyous, zany, happy, colourful people! You just can't let a girl down like that! I would LOVE to watch The Burnley Cloggies clogging!

Anyway, it's lovely to suddenly start reading all these brilliant posts that are now starting to come in. Sidmouth 2005 will be a One-Off! a Collector's Item! Unique! A time to look back on and say "Ah yes! We were there in 2005! And what a time we had!"

And then it'll be on to Sidmouth 2006! Brilliant! Hope lots of you Morris Dancers are coming!! And all you Singers, Musicians and Ceilidh Dancers! I can see you all in The Bedford Hotel and Blackmore Gardens as I write! And The Sidmouth Fiddler is still waiting for you all up in Connaught Gardens. Just can't wait till you get here! So hurry up, please!!

Lizzie :-) :-)


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Subject: RE: 51st Sidmouth festival
From: MBSLynne
Date: 31 Oct 04 - 01:57 PM

There will be proper. organised information...as Tony said...just be patient

Love Lynne


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Subject: RE: 51st Sidmouth festival
From: GUEST,fgvrt.
Date: 31 Oct 04 - 12:29 PM


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Subject: RE: 51st Sidmouth festival
From: buttonbox
Date: 31 Oct 04 - 12:06 PM

good to hear some positive indications of plans for 2005 but unfortunate to hear that one or two people have already decided to go elsewhere.It would help restore confidence enormously if a respected organisation such as folk south west or efdss would take on some sort of 'overseeing' role , perhaps by becoming, with the agreement of all concerned, the sole purveyors of festival information, having of course first checked it's authenticity.They could also possibly be prevailed upon to operate some sort of official 2005 website.

This is not to suggest that either of these organisations take on an 'organisational' role. The present hotchpotch of information, counter information and indeed misinformation can only be overcome by such organisations adding public 'respectability' to the various rumoured 2005 plans


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Subject: RE: 51st Sidmouth festival
From: MBSLynne
Date: 31 Oct 04 - 11:49 AM

I'm REALLY looking forward to next Sidmouth. I always do look forward to it, but from everything I've heard, it's going to be better in a lot of ways than the festival that has developed in recent years. Like Kitty, I remember the festival when it was smaller (though I don't go back to pre-Arena days!) and in a lot of ways it had more 'character' then. I know a lot of people who are putting a great deal of effort into the organising of the un-festival next year and I really don't think many people will be disappointed. I just wish everyone would stop bitching. It IS conterproductive, but it won't stop us from having a bloody good festival in the end

Love Lynne


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Subject: RE: 51st Sidmouth festival
From: Tony Day
Date: 31 Oct 04 - 11:33 AM

It's very sad - and more than a little silly - for people to be jumping to the conclusion that Sidmouth Folk Week 2005 will not be one that they will enjoy, on the basis of uninformed opinion from people who are not connected with the festival.

It is also very premature. It's not even November until tomorrow, but already a sound organizational model for next year is in place, with an enthusiastic and highly experienced team working up a significant and varied programme.

No, it won't be exactly like last year. There may be some things missing - equally there will be some new ideas. A few people will doubtless be disappointed - others will like the new style. But the spirit that is Sidmouth Festival be very much alive and well.

If you haven't got the details by Christmas, then by all means start complaining or deciding to go elsewhere - but have a little patience do!

In the meantime please try not to pay too much attention to the armchair wafflers who have offered nothing towards 2005 other than negativity on here.

It's gonna be a good 'un!

Tony


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Subject: RE: 51st Sidmouth festival
From: GUEST,Roger Hayes
Date: 31 Oct 04 - 10:43 AM

Steve Harris is right to say some businesses will experience a big shock if there is no festival in 2005. He is also right to applaud all the people who are trying to stage some form of event next year. They deserve respect for at least trying.

The problem is that many of us who have travelled from far and wide to enjoy Sidmouth week each summer have little confidence in any event next year being anything like the festival we love.

Sadly my family, like The Burnley Cloggies, will NOT be returning to Sidmouth in 2005. There are many other festivals now to attract us and we hear there may even be a 'new' Sidmouth festival just along the coast early next August in an area where the local council are more welcoming and supportive than in East Devon.


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Subject: RE: 51st Sidmouth festival
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 31 Oct 04 - 10:08 AM

Well, I guess this sorts out the newbies from the people who fell in love with Sidmouth and the festival when it was all on a much smaller scale.

I can remember the Sidmouth festivals when there wasn't even an Arena, and they were brilliant. So I'm expecting a smaller festival, plus Arena, to be brilliant too.

I also remember when the evening ceilidhs were rotated between Sidford, Sidbury and Newton Poppleford village halls, so that's not a new idea at all.

I'm looking forward to being in Sidmouth next year for the first week in August.

Kitty


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