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BS: Awww, screw it, UFO's DO exist....

Ebbie 23 Jun 04 - 03:27 PM
Chief Chaos 23 Jun 04 - 01:57 PM
Little Hawk 23 Jun 04 - 12:47 PM
Bill D 23 Jun 04 - 12:43 PM
Rapparee 23 Jun 04 - 09:20 AM
beardedbruce 23 Jun 04 - 09:17 AM
GUEST,John O'Lennaine 23 Jun 04 - 09:04 AM
Bobert 22 Jun 04 - 08:44 PM
Peace 22 Jun 04 - 07:16 PM
GUEST, with a life 22 Jun 04 - 05:55 PM
Little Hawk 22 Jun 04 - 05:43 PM
Bill D 22 Jun 04 - 04:20 PM
GUEST,Watcher 22 Jun 04 - 03:14 PM
Little Hawk 22 Jun 04 - 02:23 PM
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Little Hawk 22 Jun 04 - 01:23 PM
Chief Chaos 22 Jun 04 - 01:21 PM
Little Hawk 22 Jun 04 - 12:56 PM
Wolfgang 22 Jun 04 - 12:29 PM
Rapparee 22 Jun 04 - 09:28 AM
GUEST,.gargoyle 22 Jun 04 - 04:52 AM
GUEST,HEAD OF THE CIA 22 Jun 04 - 04:12 AM
Two_bears 22 Jun 04 - 02:13 AM
Little Hawk 21 Jun 04 - 11:35 PM
GUEST,Tang the Orangutan 21 Jun 04 - 11:25 PM
GUEST,Neebles 21 Jun 04 - 11:17 PM
Bill D 21 Jun 04 - 09:14 PM
Bobert 21 Jun 04 - 08:43 PM
GUEST,John O'Lennaine 21 Jun 04 - 08:25 PM
GUEST,Your answer, Rapaire... 21 Jun 04 - 12:49 PM
Rapparee 21 Jun 04 - 12:19 PM
Peace 21 Jun 04 - 12:18 PM
Pied Piper 21 Jun 04 - 12:03 PM
GUEST,Vogon Commander 21 Jun 04 - 11:44 AM
beardedbruce 21 Jun 04 - 11:19 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: Awww, screw it, UFO's DO exist....
From: Ebbie
Date: 23 Jun 04 - 03:27 PM

Face it- Earth is someone's Ant Farm.


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Subject: RE: BS: Awww, screw it, UFO's DO exist....
From: Chief Chaos
Date: 23 Jun 04 - 01:57 PM

So Hillary was climbing a mountain while Monica was climbing a cigar?


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Subject: RE: BS: Awww, screw it, UFO's DO exist....
From: Little Hawk
Date: 23 Jun 04 - 12:47 PM

That's still better than molehills.

By the way, they're AFO's, not UFO's. Alien Flying Objects.


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Subject: RE: BS: Awww, screw it, UFO's DO exist....
From: Bill D
Date: 23 Jun 04 - 12:43 PM

Hillary's are more like foothills...


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From: Rapparee
Date: 23 Jun 04 - 09:20 AM

"Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiimb evvvvvvvverrrrrrrrrrrrry mountainnnnnnnnnnnnn..."


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Subject: RE: BS: Awww, screw it, UFO's DO exist....
From: beardedbruce
Date: 23 Jun 04 - 09:17 AM

or because Hillary is here?


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Subject: RE: BS: Awww, screw it, UFO's DO exist....
From: GUEST,John O'Lennaine
Date: 23 Jun 04 - 09:04 AM

So the aliens have been coming here because Mt. Everest is there?


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Subject: RE: BS: Awww, screw it, UFO's DO exist....
From: Bobert
Date: 22 Jun 04 - 08:44 PM

Well, Bill was busy at the office and like they say, "If you don't do your homework, someone else will." That's the way I heard it... Plus, the aliens got it on tape and I'm sure got a kick out of that particular episode of "Earth, Stranger than Strange"...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: Awww, screw it, UFO's DO exist....
From: Peace
Date: 22 Jun 04 - 07:16 PM

Let me get this right: Sir Edmund Hillary climbed a Senator from New York? I thought he climbed Everest. The things a guy learns on the 'cat.


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Subject: RE: BS: Awww, screw it, UFO's DO exist....
From: GUEST, with a life
Date: 22 Jun 04 - 05:55 PM

Jackanory ... Jackanory ... Jackanory ...


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Subject: RE: BS: Awww, screw it, UFO's DO exist....
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 Jun 04 - 05:43 PM

That is VERY intriguing... :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Awww, screw it, UFO's DO exist....
From: Bill D
Date: 22 Jun 04 - 04:20 PM

well now, 'watcher'...that actually makes a certain amount of sense...*grin*. We are pretty funny.


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Subject: RE: BS: Awww, screw it, UFO's DO exist....
From: GUEST,Watcher
Date: 22 Jun 04 - 03:14 PM

Earth is actually a sort of reality TV (planet) show for aliens.   Basically they 'maroon' half a dozen guys on the planet to see how they get on amongst the local wildlife. Sometimes they get up to all sorts of mad stuff. In one episode a guy gets to be the leader of a tribe, and he goes and knock seven colours os shit out of another tribe just to see what happens.

What you guys are seeing are the alien film crews. You know what media people are like, they imbibe a few perception altering substances and party. Crazed pod pilots like to make low passes over the planet to scare the shit out the inhabitants.

Occasionally late at night you can pick up 'rushes' on a satellite dish. I saw one where an alien was changing into a human form and back again, each time it went human it remodelled itself into a different person.

Watcher


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Subject: RE: BS: Awww, screw it, UFO's DO exist....
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 Jun 04 - 02:23 PM

Did I get his name wrong?


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Subject: RE: BS: Awww, screw it, UFO's DO exist....
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 Jun 04 - 02:22 PM

No, Sir Edmund! :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Awww, screw it, UFO's DO exist....
From: Rapparee
Date: 22 Jun 04 - 02:18 PM

The senator from NY climbed a mountain?


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Subject: RE: BS: Awww, screw it, UFO's DO exist....
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 Jun 04 - 01:23 PM

Why would they come here? The same reason Hillary climbed the mountain.


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Subject: RE: BS: Awww, screw it, UFO's DO exist....
From: Chief Chaos
Date: 22 Jun 04 - 01:21 PM

Why would they come here?

To prove to their skeptics that there is other intelligent (well....) life in the universe!


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Subject: RE: BS: Awww, screw it, UFO's DO exist....
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 Jun 04 - 12:56 PM

LOL! Just when I think you've lost your sense of humour, Wolfgang, you redeem yourself.


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Subject: RE: BS: Awww, screw it, UFO's DO exist....
From: Wolfgang
Date: 22 Jun 04 - 12:29 PM

Bobert,

that was really nice of you to start this thread. The other thread, 'UFOs do Not exist', was dominated completely by unbelievers scaring the believers into silence.

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: BS: Awww, screw it, UFO's DO exist....
From: Rapparee
Date: 22 Jun 04 - 09:28 AM

I am aware of the benefits of bipedal, two-eyed, humanoid bodily configuration. But I still have to ask -- why do our visitors (and our self-created demons and angels) all seem to follow that form?

Life on Earth is womderfully varied, from the microorganisms which live near high-temperature sulfur vents to the human beings to jellyfish. Not all blood is red -- some insects us hemocyanin, a copper-based molecule instead of hemoglobin, which is iron-based, and their blood is bluish. Insects have six legs, arachnids have eight, other critters have no legs at all. There are chitonous body coverings, fur, scales, feathers, and no body coverings. Reproduction is carried on in a wonderous variety of means.

And that doesn't even touch plant-based life!

With millions of life-supporting planets, why are our visitors effectively images of ourselves? Why aren't they based upon, say, a silicon/oxygen life instead of carbon/oxygen (and yes, I'm aware that they'd have to excrete silicon dioxide -- know to us as sand -- but this is an example)? Or chlorine? Or why not be based upon some other energy source than chemical?

Seems to me that if they're advanced enough for the travel they do, they'd be advanced enough to protect themselves in our environment just as even now we could protect ourselves in theirs.

Or is this just another case of Sol-centric thinking?

(Actually, I'd like to meet someone who breathed, say, chlorine and talk with them. Maybe have a beer and they can have the equivalent. Learn a few songs and some of their music.)


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Subject: RE: BS: Awww, screw it, UFO's DO exist....
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 22 Jun 04 - 04:52 AM

If these things interest you .... Visit this site .... be sure to watch the video clip available at the bottom of theier webpage.



http://www.thephoenixlights.net/



Sincerely,

Gargoyle


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Subject: RE: BS: Awww, screw it, UFO's DO exist....
From: GUEST,HEAD OF THE CIA
Date: 22 Jun 04 - 04:12 AM

I TOLD YOU NOT TO DISCUSS THIS TOPIC. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!


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Subject: RE: BS: Awww, screw it, UFO's DO exist....
From: Two_bears
Date: 22 Jun 04 - 02:13 AM

I have no problem wih multi ( greater than 3-space) dimensional travel- but I had thought that this discussion was in relation to interstellar travel in 3-space. Possible, but ... Why?

Does it really matter whether they use 3D space, or slipping into another dimension to use as a short cut.

All that matters; is that Earth is being visited.


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Subject: RE: BS: Awww, screw it, UFO's DO exist....
From: Little Hawk
Date: 21 Jun 04 - 11:35 PM

No, Tang! You were correctly identified. Chongo saw the whole thing, and he said, "There's that asshole Tang getting smacked out of his tree again. Serves him right!"

You were an IFO, Tang. Tough bananas!


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Subject: RE: BS: Awww, screw it, UFO's DO exist....
From: GUEST,Tang the Orangutan
Date: 21 Jun 04 - 11:25 PM

I was a UFO for a few seconds, the other day. One of my lovely mates was sick of me trying to foist my unwanted attentions on her and smacked me right out of the tree.


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Subject: RE: BS: Awww, screw it, UFO's DO exist....
From: GUEST,Neebles
Date: 21 Jun 04 - 11:17 PM

Well, there are a number of different physical types reported, but the "greys" have been seen a fair bit. Others have reportedly been seen who look so much like us Earth people that no one would know the difference if they were dressed in a conventional manner, and some of those may already be living quietly among us as observers.

They do seem to be waiting for something. It could be:

1. for us to stop being so warlike and paranoid
2. for us to establish a unified World society so that they have someone they can actually talk to here that represents the whole human race in a real manner
3. for us to stop trying to shoot them down with our archaic military junk
4. for us to give up atomic weapons and other crazy stuff like that
5. for us to welcome them in an open fashion instead of covering it up
6. for a looming ecological catastrophe to sort itself out, after which the situation would be radically different
7. or a hundred other possible reasons...

Or maybe...

They do just see us as "pets" or interesting creatures, but not advanced enough to bother having diplomatic relations with.

Or a hundred other possible scenarios.

I can just imagine a bunch of monkeys trying to decide what the weird aliens (humans, I mean) in the airplanes and bulldozers are up to, and why! :-) I'm sure they would be quite offended to discover that our interest in their forestland is not entirely because we are fascinated with monkeys and desperate to get to know them.

I mean, hell, monkeys would probably figure the Universe revolves around their concerns too....just the same as people do. They would not wish to be seen as creatures of little importance in the grander scheme.

Do the guys in the airplanes care what the monkeys think when they fly over? No. Do all the monkeys believe there are guys in planes up there? No. But there are.

Consider the possibility that we humans may be so culturally backward by the visitors' standards that they cannot even conceive of successfully relating to us at this point, due to problems in communication and mutual understanding. It's entirely possible. And if so, it would scare the hell out of our military and our politicians and they would keep it a secret if at all possible. They would not want to admit to something that is totally beyond their control. What else have they got except the illusion of control standing between their present position of authority and a total loss of prestige and public confidence that would follow such admissions of helplessness in the face of an alien presence?


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Subject: RE: BS: Awww, screw it, UFO's DO exist....
From: Bill D
Date: 21 Jun 04 - 09:14 PM

what I wanna know is, why all the images of aliens have those scrawny little bodies with big heads? No Earth babes are gonna go for wimps like that. I guess they are just here for the fantasies.


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Subject: RE: BS: Awww, screw it, UFO's DO exist....
From: Bobert
Date: 21 Jun 04 - 08:43 PM

Why bother with Earth?

Wel gol danged. That's an easy one. Have you seen them female aliens in the sci-fi movies? Hey, Earth has all the babes...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: Awww, screw it, UFO's DO exist....
From: GUEST,John O'Lennaine
Date: 21 Jun 04 - 08:25 PM

What I want to know is why they have been hanging around for so long, but always just in or out of view.
They never seem to go away, but never actually come and introduce themselves either.

One must at least consider the possibility that they regard us as pets, or an experiment, or a threat (most likely), or something else that they can think of but I can't.

They do seem to be waiting for something to happen...

John


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Subject: RE: BS: Awww, screw it, UFO's DO exist....
From: GUEST,Your answer, Rapaire...
Date: 21 Jun 04 - 12:49 PM

And why not bother with Earth? It's an interesting place, worth investigating if one has the means, don't you think? After all, it has unique and very worthwhile life-sustaining qualities which certainly set it apart in this solar system. It has breathable air, a moderate climate, fertile soil, lots of water, millions of species of plants, animals, insects, fish, and an entire sentient civilization of humans!

Talk about an ideal place for scientific observations...

I am kindly and gently pointing out that your last point was totally pointless, in fact. :-)

Who says they need us? Maybe they just find us interesting. Maybe they even hope to deal with us in a friendly manner AFTER we grow up and become reasonable and stop fighting all these stupid wars! Maybe they even care about us, and are willing to give us our own good time to do just that.

In the light of direct experiential evidence (sightings), I am willing to consider a number of possible theories on the matter. I don't have to ask IF they are coming here, I know they are.


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Subject: RE: BS: Awww, screw it, UFO's DO exist....
From: Rapparee
Date: 21 Jun 04 - 12:19 PM

With all that space out there, with literally millions of stars in this galaxy alone (and if only 10% supported life it would still be in the millions) -- why bother with Earth? Or the whole solar system, an obscure place out in a spiral arm, for that matter? Seems to me to be a bit of pride and Earth-centrism here. Maybe poke around, but why keep coming back?

The same argument would hold for multi-dimensional travel, only there would be far more places to visit than here, since each dimension of the sheaf would hold a "universe."

In short, yes, I'm certain that there IS intelligent life out there. Yes, some folks have developed not only space, but interstellar, travel (and possibly multi-dimensional travel). And yes, it's possible this solar system and even the Earth has been visited so, yes, people may well have seen such things.

What I'm NOT convinced of is why a race or races which are so intelligent and so advanced need us. We learn an enormous amount from one cadaver, and peoples as advanced as these are supposed to be should be at least as good at learning as we are.

Why would they want to stick around? (And don't say food -- if life is ubiquitous, so must protein-based life be.)


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Subject: RE: BS: Awww, screw it, UFO's DO exist....
From: Peace
Date: 21 Jun 04 - 12:18 PM

Two Bears: My remark about the government was facetious. I happen to have seen a UFO when I was younger. I know there is cover-up taking place.


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Subject: RE: BS: Awww, screw it, UFO's DO exist....
From: Pied Piper
Date: 21 Jun 04 - 12:03 PM

A Mark or a Smart
Boost your cognitive immune system


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Subject: RE: BS: Awww, screw it, UFO's DO exist....
From: GUEST,Vogon Commander
Date: 21 Jun 04 - 11:44 AM

Too late.......

Oh frettled gruntbuggly
thy micturations are to me
As plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee.
Groop I implore thee
my foonting turlingdromes.
And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles,
Or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon, see if I don't!

Do your worst, bearded bruce!


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Subject: RE: BS: Awww, screw it, UFO's DO exist....
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 Jun 04 - 11:19 AM

Vogon Commander,

Go away and leave us alone, or I will be forced to read you my poetry...

8-{E


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Subject: RE: BS: Awww, screw it, UFO's DO exist....
From: GUEST,Vogon Commander
Date: 21 Jun 04 - 11:06 AM

People of Earth, your attention please. This is Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz of the Galactic Hyperspace Planning Council. As you will no doubt be aware, the plans for development of the outlying regions of the Galaxy require the building of a hyperspatial express route through your star system, and regrettably your planet is one of those scheduled for demolition. The process will take slightly less than two of your Earth minutes. Thank you.


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Subject: RE: BS: Awww, screw it, UFO's DO exist....
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 Jun 04 - 08:59 AM

I have no problem wih multi ( greater than 3-space) dimensional travel- but I had thought that this discussion was in relation to interstellar travel in 3-space. Possible, but ... Why?

I KNOW that people have seen UFOs- by definition: anything they cannot recognize is a UFO. The question becomes whether it is an intelligent life form. Or a time-traveler from out future... Or secret government program...


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Subject: RE: BS: Awww, screw it, UFO's DO exist....
From: Two_bears
Date: 21 Jun 04 - 08:51 AM

I think you mean without producing a sonic boom- that speed is far in excess of the speed of sound.

Hi Bearded Bruce.

That is exactly what I meant. Thank you for catching that error.

A sonic boom is what occurs when a plane flies faster than the speed of sound.

The speed of sound fluctuates depending on the altitude, and the atmospheric conditions at the time. If memory serves; the speed of sound varies deom 734-749MPH at sea level.

I have to agree with BillD- I am certain that alien species with high technology exist, I just doubt that they would travel here and remain hidden.

I have never seen an alien; so I am unsure whether Aliens came here and remain hidden For all we know they may have some rules like the prime directive in Star Trek.

As far as my sightings of UFOs; they may have been classified government projects for all I know.

I will say that Einstein's perception that nothing can travel faster than lightis bunk. Sub atomic particles have been known to exceed the speed of light.

For all we know; the aliens may be able to enter a different dimension where there are different laws of physics.

The ancient Kabbalists claimed there were 10 different dimensions. Even theoretical physicist Michio Kaku Ph.D believes there are between 10 (hmmmmm) and 26 different dimensions. Dr. Kaku is the author of several books "Hyperspace" the most known, and teaches phusics at New York university.


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Subject: RE: BS: Awww, screw it, UFO's DO exist....
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 Jun 04 - 07:12 AM

"There have been UFOs clocked at traveling more than 20,000 MPH without breaking the sound barrier."

I think you mean without producing a sonic boom- that speed is far in excess of the speed of sound.


I have to agree with BillD- I am certain that alien species with high technology exist, I just doubt that they would travel here and remain hidden.


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Subject: RE: BS: Awww, screw it, UFO's DO exist....
From: Two_bears
Date: 21 Jun 04 - 03:41 AM

If UFOs existed, wouldn't our governments tell us? Why would any government want to keep that a secret? Ah ha! Gotcha.

A common misconception Brucie.

The Government ridicules UFO experiencers as unhinged because if the Government were to tell the people the truth People being taken from inside their homes, being experimented on, and the numerous cattle mutilations; then the population would demand that the government take steps to prevent such encroachments.

I happen to know that the U.S. Government can not stop these encroachments.

The SRS 71 blackbird (the fastest governmental acknowledged plane, and I have touched one on display) could only travel at Mach 3.5.

The alleged Aurora can travel at mach 8.

There have been UFOs clocked at traveling more than 20,000 MPH without breaking the sound barrier.

There have been several pilots, and ground forces fire missles at UFOs, and the UFO move to the side and the missle passes by harmlessly; or the UFO leaves so fast the that the missle is left in the dust.

Much like compating a Corvette to a 10 speed bicycle.

I believe the Government can NOT stop the beings in the UFOs; so they ridicule people instead of seeing panic in the streets.

We already have people having panic attacks at trafic lights. If the people were told the following; things would be a thousand times worse.

"Ladies and Gentlemen: I come here to inform you that UFOs are real. They are responsible for taking people against their will for experiments, and there is nothing we can do to stop them."

There would be chaos.


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Subject: RE: BS: Awww, screw it, UFO's DO exist....
From: Two_bears
Date: 21 Jun 04 - 12:49 AM

425 posts of UFO's not existing? This is mind boggling since a number of folks here *know* they do...

Now LH says he's seen one and I've seen one so there. They exist!

Bobert: This is one of the first times I have agreed with you.

I saw three UFOs in my life.

I saw a disc in 1961 when I was 6.
I saw a cigar shaped craft twice in 1986 when I was 31. The first time I saw this craft; it was chasing four military jets.

I saw the ships; but I did not see the passengers.


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Subject: RE: BS: Awww, screw it, UFO's DO exist....
From: Shanghaiceltic
Date: 21 Jun 04 - 12:25 AM

Check this.

UK X files

I see no reason why they should not exist.


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Subject: RE: BS: Awww, screw it, UFO's DO exist....
From: Bobert
Date: 20 Jun 04 - 11:02 PM

Well, Bill, it would seem to me that if folks who have experienced situations with UFO's that we could be hypnotized to give details. After enough folks ahd given dimilar reports then there would be a level of credibility for the majority who has never been *cursed* with being a witness... And I mean cursed...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: Awww, screw it, UFO's DO exist....
From: Bill D
Date: 20 Jun 04 - 10:26 PM

of course there's Unidentified Flying Objects

they haven't identified them all yet...




(and **I* believe there are aliens out there who can fly (millions of galaxies!!!)...I just doubt that they have been here...I can't prove anything either way, and when I discuss my opinions about God OR aliens, it is only to explain why I doubt and to show what skepticism is about to those who have never dealt with it much till they encountered this wild bunch at Mudcat..*grin*)

..I am sure those of you who have had clear, personal experiences with God, aliens, or the supernatural are telling us the truth about your experiences...but since we can't agree on how to validate those experiences, we can only compare notes, hmmm? It is a fascinating study in human nature and relationships, not matter what the ultimate answer may be, and this is, on the whole, a pretty good bunch of people to sift thru these issues...........


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Subject: RE: BS: Awww, screw it, UFO's DO exist....
From: Rapparee
Date: 20 Jun 04 - 10:21 PM

Of course they exist, Bobert. If you knew what you were looking at, it wouldn't be unidentified.

Hey, Pill! Read MOAB!


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Subject: RE: BS: Awww, screw it, UFO's DO exist....
From: GUEST,The Omnipotent Krill
Date: 20 Jun 04 - 09:42 PM

You don't exist, kendall. Or at least you won't, shortly... (evil grin) Prepare to be assimilated, with extreme prejudice. We have need for fresh fertilizer on Glipton V.


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Subject: RE: BS: Awww, screw it, UFO's DO exist....
From: Peace
Date: 20 Jun 04 - 09:42 PM

Yeah.

I too saw one years back. Now, someone will come along and tell me I didn't. However, that's life. On the bright side, I never saw Elvis.

This will be my last post to this thread.

I believe you and LH. Take care, buddy.

Bruce M


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Subject: RE: BS: Awww, screw it, UFO's DO exist....
From: Bobert
Date: 20 Jun 04 - 09:42 PM

Well, geeze, WYS-zer, now that you put it that way, hey, I'm fine wid it. Like, I ain't all eat up wid UFO's. I don't have to be 'cause I know they exist so I'm way beyond the "belive" part of UFO's which does tend to eat folks up 'cuae believin' takes a lot more work than knowin'...

Know what I mean?

And, yeah, that lovin' up stuff is in that knowing category, too, but after 3 gigs in 2 days, any BLUES I be playing tonight is gonna be the real deal...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: Awww, screw it, UFO's DO exist....
From: Bobert
Date: 20 Jun 04 - 09:33 PM

Okay, brucie, you win. Yeah, darn it, if they did exist then the governemnt would certainly tell us...

Not...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: Awww, screw it, UFO's DO exist....
From: kendall
Date: 20 Jun 04 - 09:32 PM

Of course they exist! people see things every day that they can not identify.
That doesn't mean they are looking at space ships, they simply don't know what they are looking at.


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Subject: RE: BS: Awww, screw it, UFO's DO exist....
From: Peace
Date: 20 Jun 04 - 09:31 PM

I think some have.


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Subject: RE: BS: Awww, screw it, UFO's DO exist....
From: wysiwyg
Date: 20 Jun 04 - 09:31 PM

Look, Boberq, here's the thing. (Many things boil down to this which is why I no longer post in most of the controversy or conspiracy threads). There are SOME THINGS (woooo....ooo.... weird music) that we can NEVER know the truth of (sound of wind moaning), because some F*ck higher up the chain than WE are has covered it all UP.

Just a Few Examples:
Who killed JonBenet
Who killed Kennedy
Who's beheading Americans every time the country is sick of war
UFOs

It's a LONG list. The thing is, no amount of investigative journalism can ever be assured of having the real story, because the stories have been so layered over each other and woven into each other and bullshitted over and news-commentated on, there is no longer any credibility IN these kinds of stories or issues. It's all just crap.

So whether or not there SHOULD be UFOs according to one's personal beliefs, the truth is, we just don't know. Even if I got abducted by aliens tomorrow, I could equally believe I've fallen victim to a cult of demon-worshippers, or brainwashed by the CIA, or stuck in a Mudcat thread and can't reboot or even get the Help page to open.

So screw it!

The good news, most of these kinds of issues have no effect whatsoever on how you actually live your life and live out your beliefs.

Now you can relax and get back to playing BLUES and lovin' up on the P-Vine.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Awww, screw it, UFO's DO exist....
From: Rapparee
Date: 20 Jun 04 - 09:25 PM

Okay. Personally, I think that they either come here 'cause they need a good laugh now and then. Notice that they don't seem to stick around.


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Subject: RE: BS: Awww, screw it, UFO's DO exist....
From: Peace
Date: 20 Jun 04 - 09:22 PM

If UFOs existed, wouldn't our governments tell us? Why would any government want to keep that a secret? Ah ha! Gotcha.


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Subject: RE: BS: Awww, screw it, UFO's DO exist....
From: Bobert
Date: 20 Jun 04 - 09:19 PM

Ahhhhh, now wait a minute there, L-Hawk... We can't go sayin' that God don't believe in folks who don't belive in Him 'cause He's, ahhhh, you know..... God and He ceratinly has a lot more Faith is us than lots of us do in Him...

But, hey, yer point about the infinate number of planets circling their own suns (stars to us) lending heavily toward life elsewhere is rather undisputable... And given that I've seen a "flying saucer", UFO, close enough to be able to draw it in detail, I **know** that either the someone on earth has perfected a "flying suacer" or someone else has...

Oh, geeze, this down kinda mess with the strickest interprataions of the "Heavens and the Earth" part in the Bible... Well, maybe not...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: Awww, screw it, UFO's DO exist....
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Jun 04 - 09:10 PM

God would certainly not allow the existence of a couple of trillion planets and only populate one of them with sentient beings... :-)

Now we'll get a strenous objection from someone who believes in neither God nor UFO's. Heh!

To such people I say, "That's okay. God doesn't believe in you either. Matter of fact, even I don't really believe in you..."


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Subject: RE: BS: Awww, screw it, UFO's DO exist....
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 20 Jun 04 - 09:03 PM

Not shure about UFO's Bobert, but I've experienced enough things in my life that defy any rational explanation to dismiss the possibility. Just watched Close Encounters Of The Third Kind before heading out to visit Devil's Tower, first hand. I figure God can do whatever He dang well pleases...

Bro Jerry


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Subject: BS: Awww, screw it, UFO's DO exist....
From: Bobert
Date: 20 Jun 04 - 08:52 PM

425 posts of UFO's not existing? This is mind boggling since a number of folks here *know* they do...

Now LH says he's seen one and I've seen one so there. They exist!

Period. End of discussion. Right?

Bobert


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