Subject: Lyr Req: Lyrics for The Rising From: GUEST,Tim Clark Date: 29 Jun 04 - 11:43 AM Can anyone help with the lyrics for a song sung by the McCalmans called The Rising - it was on their album Smuggler. I can only remember a few words of the chorus, which went something like: ".... There's nought but freedom we would know If we follow the gallant weaver" Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Tim Clark |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lyrics for The Rising From: GUEST,weerover Date: 30 Jun 04 - 02:10 AM Tim, I believe I have it somewhere and will search for it when I get home. The song was part of a play about the weaver's rising which I saw (the play, not the rising) in Glasgow in I think the late 70s, with songs performed by the McCalmans. The tune is the same as that used by Robert Burns for "The Gallant Weaver". wr. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lyrics for The Rising From: Jim Dixon Date: 01 Jul 04 - 09:33 PM The McCalmans LPs "Smuggler" and "Burn the Witch" have been reissued together as one CD: Castle CD 72124, 2002. There, THE RISING is medleyed with TAMMY TRADDLEFEET. You can hear a sound sample at Amazon.de. I listened but I found it unintelligible. (I was hoping to find a few more words to search for.) |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lyrics for The Rising (McCalmans) From: Geoff the Duck Date: 02 Jul 04 - 04:55 AM I have a vague recollection of a wordsheet in the original LP. If I can find my old copy it may answer your question. Alternatively you could try asking the McCalmans yourself http://www.mccalmans.com/! There is a lyrics page, but the song you want doesn't appear to be there currently. They have an e-mail address at the bottom of the page. Quack!! Geoff the Duck. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lyrics for The Rising (McCalmans) From: GUEST,Tim Clark Date: 02 Jul 04 - 05:17 AM Thanks for your help guys. I did look at the Macs website, and having not found it there, tried e mailing them to ask if they could send me the lyrics, but haven't received any reply yet (several months later). Unfortunately, now living in the Midlands, haven't been able to get to see the Macs for several years now (sadly), because they don't seem to venture this far south, so haven't been able to ask them personally either! With respect to the CD, as I recall, the original recording (on a firend's LP) didn't make the words particularly clear, because I seem to recall him trying to sort out the words without much success! Hence. still looking, so if anyone cand find the words on wordsheet or elsewhere, I would be eternally grateful! Regards & thanks agin Tim |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lyrics for The Rising (McCalmans) From: OldPossum Date: 02 Jul 04 - 06:35 PM The play called 'The Rising' was written by Hector MacMillan. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lyrics for The Rising (McCalmans) From: delphinium Date: 03 Jul 04 - 03:18 PM As you say Tim, this is a hard one to catch the words - here's a bit more of what I hear, in hopes that it might jog someone else's memory or help with your search: Chorus Say forward lads step heel and toe A man who fought ... ? There's nought but freedom we would know Kin we follow the gallant weavers Oh the battle by betrayers won Our country by timeservers run The fight has barely but begun For aye 'twas with the weavers [There's just one more verse, and corrections to the above] |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lyrics for The Rising (McCalmans) From: GUEST,weerover Date: 06 Jul 04 - 08:56 AM Second line of the chorus: A man who fought come weel, come woe (i.e. come good or bad) wr. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lyrics for The Rising (McCalmans) From: GUEST Date: 06 Jul 04 - 11:37 AM Thanks again for your help all of you. Have searched on the play by Hector Macmillan, but not found any links to the words of songs. However, we seem to be making progress gradually - anyone know the rest of the words? Thanks again, and regards Tim |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lyrics for The Rising (McCalmans) From: Jim McLean Date: 06 Jul 04 - 12:40 PM gin not kin |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lyrics for The Rising (McCalmans) From: GUEST,Tim Clark Date: 13 Jul 04 - 08:45 AM Anyone know the second verse to this song? |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lyrics for The Rising (McCalmans) From: GUEST,Billy Date: 14 Jul 04 - 03:32 PM |
Subject: Lyr Add: THE RISING (from the McCalmans) From: GUEST,Billy Date: 14 Jul 04 - 03:35 PM This is as near as I can get listening to the CD. The Rising We weaver lads were merry blades When those who (brook sae weel?) And when the price o' ilka piece Would (sae?) a bowl and meal Then (bogus?) ale for beef and veal And cash is right wi' everybody Aye, and every ale has had the smell O' roast, aye, reekin' toddy Whack row de dow dow fal al de dal de diddle Whack row de dow dow fal al de diddle day Gin times would come like times has gone, We'd soon be merry-O. We'd loup and prance and jig and dance 'Til we'd be like tae fa' And then you'd see, we'd happy be And every (ait?) we'd ha'e a drink on. We could laugh and sing 'God Save The King" And better songs that we could think on. Whack row de dow dow fal al de dal de diddle Whack row de dow dow fal al de diddle day Whack row de dow dow fal al de dal de diddle Whack row de dow dow fal al de diddle day CHORUS Sae forward lads step heel and toe A man who'd mount, come weel, come woe There's naught but freedom we would know Gin we follow the gallant weavers Oh the battle by betrayers won Our country by timeservers run The fight has barely but begun For aye 'twas wi' the weavers CHORUS There's place men (placement?) (hae'd? hate?) oor cause despise Wha seek tae stem and spirit's rise But heart and hand, we'll cut such ties And join the gallant weavers CHORUS |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lyrics for The Rising (McCalmans) From: Wolfgang Date: 14 Jul 04 - 04:40 PM Thanks, Billy, this was on my missing list. I couldn't have done as good as you, but I'll listen once more just in case I get an idea. Wolfgang |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lyrics for The Rising (McCalmans) From: Wolfgang Date: 15 Jul 04 - 04:13 AM As I thought I couldn't hear any better than you, Billy. In fact, I sometimes even had to listen twice or more to slowly start realising that you may be right in your transcription. The McCalmans are usually beyond my listening abilities. Let me just add that these are two different songs with different tunes sung one after the other. It starts with 'Tammy Traddlefeet' and ends with 'The Rising'. Tammy has the Whack choruses and Rising starts with the line 'Sae forward lads...'. Perhaps one thing: I hear 'despite' where Billy has 'despise' but despise makes more sense in the context. Wolfgang |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lyrics for The Rising (McCalmans) From: GUEST,Tim Clark Date: 15 Jul 04 - 08:08 AM Thanks guys - I have been trying to get these words for ages, and couldn't work them out. Should we consider putting them on Digital Tradition if we are fairly confident of them?? Once again, thanks to you all for your contributions Regards Tim |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Rising (from The McCalmans) From: GUEST,Mick, FRANCE Date: 12 Oct 16 - 09:35 AM While trying to improve on the lyrics above, I came across the first verse of Tammy Treddlefeet on a website @ http://www.monikie.org.uk/journey-dta2.htm#weavers, when clicking on the "Weavers"' link: "We weaver lads were merry blades when Osnaburgh sell'd weel An' when the price of ilka piece did pay a bowl of meal: Then folk got sale for beef and veal for cash was rife wi' everybodie, An' ilka ale-hoose had the smell o' roas'en pies an' reekin' toddie." I then reajusted it to the McCalmans' version and made a few more tentative readjustments to the rest of the lyrics, so as to make more sense here and there. Although there remain a few questionable elements, I am satisfied these lyrics are not far from what the McCalmans are actually singing. So, here's where I stand at the moment: TAMMY TRADDLEFEET / THE RISING (Traditional, arranged by McCalman, Moffat, Bayne, MacMillan) We weaver lads Were merry blades When Osnaburg sold weel, And when the price O' ilka piece Would say a bowl o' meal. Then, folk got sale For beef and veal, And cash 's rife wi' everybody. Aye, and ev'ry alehoose Had the smell o' roas'en Pie an' reekin' toddy. Whack row de dow dow fal al de dal de diddle, Whack row de dow dow fal al de diddle day. Gin times would come Like times has gone, We'd soon be merry-O. We'd loup and prance And jig and dance 'Til we'd be like tae fa'. And then you'd see, We'd happy be And every (ait?) we'd ha'e a drink on. We could laugh and sing "God Save The King" And better songs that we could think on. Whack row de dow dow fal al de dal de diddle, Whack row de dow dow fal al de diddle day. Whack row de dow dow fal al de dal de diddle, Whack row de dow dow fal al de diddle day. CHORUS : Sae, forward, lads, step heel and toe, (In manhood bound,?) come weel, come woe. There's naught but freedom we would know, Gin we follow the gallant weavers. Oh, the battle by betrayers won, Our country by timeservers run, The fight has barely but begun, For aye 'twas wi' the weavers. CHORUS There's p'licemen, (hey, do?) oor cause despise, Wha seek tae stem (man's?) spirit's rise, But heart and hand, we'll cut such ties And join the gallant weavers. CHORUS Can anyone improve on that some more? Thanks. P.S. I thought it might be "p'licemen" in the last verse rather than placement/place men, after reading a detailed account of the 1820 events, explaining that the police force managed to infiltrate the protesters' organisation. |
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