BS: 'Bush is THE criminal' Saddam ha ha ha

Subject: BS: 'Bush is THE criminal' Saddam ha ha ha
From: GUEST,sorefingers
Date: 01 Jul 04 - 05:51 PM

On CNN Saddam at his trial/s tells Judge "Bush is the criminal" ... so funny!

How can the Oil thieves get away with Saddam's oil?

Subject: RE: BS: 'Bush is THE criminal' Saddam ha ha ha
From: CarolC
Date: 01 Jul 04 - 05:56 PM

I thought it was a bit silly for the questioner to ask Saddam what his occupation is...

"Um... prisoner?"

Subject: RE: BS: 'Bush is THE criminal' Saddam ha ha ha
From: GUEST,Noddy
Date: 01 Jul 04 - 06:22 PM

People who launch "pre-emptive wars" against much smaller countries for false and self-serving reasons ARE criminals...even if the leader of the attacked country is himself a criminal also. It's all a matter of perspective. Saddam's depiction of Bush as a war criminal is entirely accurate, regardless of Saddam's own criminal record, which is undoubtedly extensive.

Saddam's former occupation was: hired killer for the USA (back in the 80's). His more recent occupation was: scapegoat for 911 and chosen "enemy du jour"...the latest phony Hitler substitute for an America which is always in search of a new terrible foreign enemy to focus its military strength upon and distract its ignorant public with while it wastes their tax money. He fit both roles so well that he ought to get 2 academy awards at least.

If Saddam died of a heart attack today, the Bush administration would miss him desperately. They need him in order to continue making lurid propaganda. Damn shame they couldn't surgically mount some horns on his head, isn't it? :-) Oh, where will we find the next "Saddam" to fix public paranoia upon? In some small country, that's where. One that has a strategic resource or a strategic location or both.

Subject: RE: BS: 'Bush is THE criminal' Saddam ha ha ha
From: Amos
Date: 01 Jul 04 - 06:45 PM

Saddam is quite right -- Bush is a criminal. He, himself, is another. They are comparable in more ways than either of them would like to talk about.

A

Subject: RE: BS: 'Bush is THE criminal' Saddam ha ha ha
From: akenaton
Date: 01 Jul 04 - 06:53 PM

Yes Amos and Noddy I agree.
This Show trial is just what America needs to deflect attention from the current problems in Iraq,which have nothing to do with Saddam by the way...Ake

Subject: RE: BS: 'Bush is THE criminal' Saddam ha ha ha
From: kendall
Date: 01 Jul 04 - 07:10 PM

Right on, Noddy.

Subject: RE: BS: 'Bush is THE criminal' Saddam ha ha ha
From: mack/misophist
Date: 01 Jul 04 - 11:14 PM

Right on from me, too.

Subject: RE: BS: 'Bush is THE criminal' Saddam ha ha ha
From: Amergin
Date: 01 Jul 04 - 11:17 PM

i think noddy said it all...

Subject: RE: BS: 'Bush is THE criminal' Saddam ha ha ha
From: GUEST,John O'Lennaine
Date: 02 Jul 04 - 02:45 AM

Me too.

Subject: RE: BS: 'Bush is THE criminal' Saddam ha ha ha
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 02 Jul 04 - 03:23 AM

Yup

Subject: RE: BS: 'Bush is THE criminal' Saddam ha ha ha
From: jack halyard
Date: 02 Jul 04 - 04:35 AM

It fascinates me that most of the US Administration's recent demons have been bastards they have trained themselves. Let us not forget that there were two other criminals who ignored the wishes of their people and committed their soldiers to this war, Tony Blair and Australia's own pathetic little running dog John Howard.
I have no brief for Saddam, except to say that he was doing to his people what Indonesia, Chile, Saudi Arabia, Burma and others have been brazenly doing for years and the US not only failed to step in to bring about democracy, it supported the crushing of democratic aspirations- notably in Chile. Yes, Bush is a War criminal who needs to be alongside Saddam Hussein and General Wiranto- among others- in an international court.

                              Jack Halyard

Subject: RE: BS: 'Bush is THE criminal' Saddam ha ha ha
From: kendall
Date: 02 Jul 04 - 08:30 AM

In this world the sad fact is that the big devour the small. Can you picture a court at the bottom of the sea in which a minnow has brought a shark up on charges?

Subject: RE: BS: 'Bush is THE criminal' Saddam ha ha ha
From: GUEST,Larry K
Date: 02 Jul 04 - 12:11 PM

It is still not too late to get Sadaam as the principal speaker at the Democratic National convention.   He would be far more exiciting that Kerry and has the same positions as the democratic party. (Sadaam must be pro choice because he is certainly not pro life) You could probably pay hin in oil as well.

All those people in Iraq who still have fingers gave Sadaam "two thumbs up" yesterday.

Subject: RE: BS: 'Bush is THE criminal' Saddam ha ha ha
From: CarolC
Date: 02 Jul 04 - 12:47 PM

I heard that Saddam's approval rating amongst Iraqis is currently only a couple of points lower than Bush's approval rating amongst USAns, and that Saddam would stand a decent chance of getting elected if they held elections today in Iraq.

Larry K, I don't think Saddam would be allowed to speak at the Democratic national convention. I think he's still under contract with the Republicans.

;-)

Subject: RE: BS: 'Bush is THE criminal' Saddam ha ha ha
From: SINSULL
Date: 02 Jul 04 - 01:11 PM

Given that the US financed much of Saddam's activities, I agree with his assessment. By the way, anyone have an update on the body count for US military in Iraq?

Subject: RE: BS: 'Bush is THE criminal' Saddam ha ha ha
From: Amos
Date: 02 Jul 04 - 01:33 PM

Larry K:

I think you are delusionary and are projecting hallucinations on to genralized impressions of the American public. Your assertion that there is any similarity between the Democratic Party's desires and Saddam Hussein's is nothing short of disgusting, except that it cannot be taken seriously. The fact that you support one criminal does not mean that others support another.

A

Subject: RE: BS: 'Bush is THE criminal' Saddam ha ha ha
From: GUEST,Clint Keller
Date: 02 Jul 04 - 02:06 PM

"Saddam… has the same positions as the democratic party."

I'm tired of hearing this kind of mindless shit.

clint

Subject: RE: BS: 'Bush is THE criminal' Saddam ha ha ha
From: Terry K
Date: 03 Jul 04 - 01:52 AM

I just heard that Saddam has been awarded the death penalty.

Sadly, David Beckham will be taking it.

Subject: RE: BS: 'Bush is THE criminal' Saddam ha ha ha
From: Nerd
Date: 03 Jul 04 - 02:32 PM

Larry K.:

Saddam is pro-life in the same way George W. Bush is. Remember, Bush executed a whole lot of prisoners while he was governor.

Bush is anti abortion rights, not pro life.

Subject: RE: BS: 'Bush is THE criminal' Saddam ha ha ha
From: Bo Vandenberg
Date: 04 Jul 04 - 06:00 AM

How can George Bush be a criminal.

He's the elected leader of a soverign country!

Some people just dont understand.

Subject: RE: BS: 'Bush is THE criminal' Saddam ha ha ha
From: Amos
Date: 04 Jul 04 - 07:47 AM

He wasn't elected; he was impressed by the power structure.

A

Subject: RE: BS: 'Bush is THE criminal' Saddam ha ha ha
From: freda underhill
Date: 04 Jul 04 - 08:24 AM

letter to the editor, sydney morning herald: US should be in the dock alongside its old pal Saddam; July 3, 2004

Many of the charges to be faced by the former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein before a tribunal set up by the new interim government could also be levelled at his once staunchest ally: the United States.

The US military supplied Saddam with no less than 14 different strains of the deadly anthrax virus in 1988 to help hasten the end of the Iran-Iraq war. The US was also largely responsible for supplying Saddam with chemical weapons to suppress the Kurdish uprising in Halabja. In a UN Security Council resolution condemning the attack, the US was the only member to vote against the resolution.

And when Saddam had informed the then US ambassador to Iraq, April Gillespie, of his plans to invade Kuwait, she raised no objections. Her equivocation was interpreted by Saddam as a green light from the US to go ahead. Saddam's trial has already been dubbed the trial of the century. But because he did not act without the implicit support of the US, they should both be put on trial for committing these crimes against humanity.

The Reverend Dr Vincent Zankin, Rivett (ACT), July 2.

Subject: RE: BS: 'Bush is THE criminal' Saddam ha ha ha
From: DougR
Date: 04 Jul 04 - 03:17 PM

Probably no point in reminding the negative posters that Saddam is being tried by Iraqis, not Americans. Naw!

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: 'Bush is THE criminal' Saddam ha ha ha
From: Cruiser
Date: 04 Jul 04 - 08:30 PM

Bush's act against Iraq was criminal, literally and figuratively.

The only real justice would be to put Bush and Saddam in a cage together, without weapons, see which one lasted the longest, then put the survivor on trial for crimes againt humanity, including war crimes.

Cruiser

Subject: RE: BS: 'Bush is THE criminal' Saddam ha ha ha
From: Bobert
Date: 05 Jul 04 - 08:34 PM

I guess it wouldn't matter to you, Doug, that the Iraqis who are trying Saddam were handpicked by Bush and his handpicked appointees...

Come to think about it, Bush was handpicked by his daddy's Supreme Court?

Hmmmmmmm? Where's all this democracy, anyway?

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: 'Bush is THE criminal' Saddam ha ha ha
From: Bo Vandenberg
Date: 05 Jul 04 - 10:48 PM

Amos,

"He wasn't elected; he was impressed by the power structure."

Many people say that about Bush.

Subject: RE: BS: 'Bush is THE criminal' Saddam ha ha ha
From: Amos
Date: 05 Jul 04 - 11:55 PM

That's who I meant, as well.


A

Subject: RE: BS: 'Bush is THE criminal' Saddam ha ha ha
From: Kaleea
Date: 06 Jul 04 - 01:04 AM

Jeepers, when I saw Sad-umm Insane on the news I sure got a chuckle out of that "bush is the criminal" comment too. Pot calleth kettle black--Bush was elected in a fair democratic election just like Sad-umm,the elected Prez of eye-rack.
    & ya know, Bobert, not only did bushlite hand pick them thar fellers whut iz a tryin' ole sad-umm, I remember when the press found out that when pappybush was the head of the See-eye-ay (central ignorance agency) he hand picked sad-umm, put him in power, & then the bush family arms company sold him lotsa arms & weapons. Golly gee, how did that happen? Better yet, why? Does the phrase "black gold, texas-T" ring a bell?) Things that REALLY make you go . . .hmmmmmmmmmmmm?!
    So hows come when the leaders decide to go to war it's mostly the children of the poor folks who get killed?   more hmmmmmmm. I'd say put bushlite & sad-umm in the WWF LockDown cage & see who wins, but I think we know bushlite is too frou-frou to throw a punch. Maybe somebody oughta put them thar 2 prezident type fellerz into the midst of the wives & mothers of the dead soldiers & see who comes out alive. If televised, it would be the all time best international ratings evr, & beat all reality shows to a pulp.

Subject: RE: BS: 'Bush is THE criminal' Saddam ha ha ha
From: Teribus
Date: 06 Jul 04 - 05:51 AM

freda underhill,

Your Reverend Dr. is talking crap.

Kaleea,

"I remember when the press found out that when pappybush was the head of the See-eye-ay (central ignorance agency) he hand picked sad-umm, put him in power, & then the bush family arms company sold him lotsa arms & weapons."

It's amazing what the press can find out and print. It's equally amazing how many eejits that will swallow it.

Now let's see:

"pappybush" was head of the CIA from 30th January 1976 until 20th January 1977. Now by the time "pappybush" became head of the CIA, Saddam Hussein was already deputy leader of the Iraqi Ba'athist Party and he didn't become leader of the Ba'athist Party and President of Iraq until 1978 when he side-lined his boss and murdered about 600-odd senior Ba'ath Party members plus a few of their families and relatives. Now under such circumstances Kaleea, can you explain how "pappybush", hand picked Saddam and put him in power?

"...then the bush family arms company sold him lotsa arms & weapons."

Ah, that would explain why the entire equipment inventory of the Iraqi Armed Forces is made up of US and Western weapons, "pappybush's" family arms company sold them to Iraq - I take it then that the AK-47's, and variants, the RPG-7's, etc, etc, are all recent imports? As likewise were the BPM's, T-72 tanks, the Chinese "Silkworm" missiles, the MIG combat aircraft - or were they from "pappybush's" personal stash in the family arms firm?

Subject: RE: BS: 'Bush is THE criminal' Saddam ha ha ha
From: Wolfgang
Date: 06 Jul 04 - 08:05 AM

Mr. Hussein's line of defense reminds a lot of what Goering had to say in the Nuremberg trial. "Them too" was his main defense.

Wolfgang

Subject: RE: BS: 'Bush is THE criminal' Saddam ha ha ha
From: freda underhill
Date: 06 Jul 04 - 10:03 AM

its dangerous to only accept information that colludes with your own world view - whatever that view is.

History is a bunch of people arguing about what "really" happened.

Unfortunately, sometimes the only place to find out what is really happening in a country is outside the country.


freda

Subject: RE: BS: 'Bush is THE criminal' Saddam ha ha ha
From: Bobert
Date: 06 Jul 04 - 10:35 AM

Kaleea,

I had the same idea about a Bush/Saddam fight card last year in the Bush machine's run up to war... I had Saddam as a 7-1 favorite but after seeing him in the TV, I'd have to reconsider. Maybe a 5-1 favorite to beat the top chickenhawk...

As a side bar, I drive home from playing blues in DC every Saturdeay and us the George Washington Parkway and would you believe there is a big sign for the "George Bush Center of Intellegence" right thefre on the parkway? Every time I see it I'm thinking "What's wrong with this picture?"

Ya notice how the right wing will name just about anything that ain't moveable after one of their *very average* heros. Ronald Reagan Interantional Airport? What a friggin' joke! What did he do other than danged near bangrupt America?

(But, Bobert, didn't he win the Cold War?)

Yeah right, all those who believe Ronnie Reagan won the Cold War please send me you address so I'll know where to mail the sales contract for you to own the bridge of your choice...

But there it is, danged Ronnie-Raygun International Airport. The George Bush Center for Intellegence. (John Foster) Dulles Airport. Heck, let the country name Cape Canaveral after JFK and the right wingers come round and take down the signs and change it back....

Sorry about the creep. This is supposed to be more about Bush and his boggie man da joir, Saddam....

.... 5-1 Saddam takes Bush out in 2 rounds...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: 'Bush is THE criminal' Saddam ha ha ha
From: Teribus
Date: 06 Jul 04 - 10:46 AM

freda underhill,

"its dangerous to only accept information that colludes with your own world view - whatever that view is."

You should pass that gem onto the Reverend Dr.

I really would like to hear him expand on his reasons for stating that the United States of America was once Saddam Hussein's "staunchest Ally". Considering that diplomatic relations between the two countries have been broken for 28 of the last 37 years. Did the Rev. compare that to Iraq's relations with Russia, France, China, North Korea. I believe that if he did he might revise his definition of staunchest ally.

Oh yes the 14 different strains of the deadly anthrax virus - Not weaponised - requested to improve defense against a biological attack, this massive consignment was transported to Iraq from America in a metal brief case, carried onboard the aircraft as hand luggage. And can The Reverend Dr Vincent Zankin, tell us how many people these 14 different strains of the deadly anthrax virus killed. If he can't I will - None. Correct me if I am wrong but during the Iran/Iraq War Anthrax was never used, mustard gas (good old World War I stuff) was used.

The Reverend Dr Vincent Zankin, can also tell us exactly what chemical weapons the US supplied Saddam Hussein with to attack Halabja. I think Saddam actually used a few Hughes helicopters he got from the US to carry out the attack, because they would not appear to be military, all Saddam's military helicopters at the time being of Soviet manufacture, didn't want to alarm the good people of Halabja, immediately prior to gassing them.

Correct me if I am wrong, but at no time did Saddam Hussein inform April Gillespie of his plans to invade Kuwait. What he did talk to her about was the existence of a border dispute with Kuwait. Saddam Hussein was quite amazing when it came to his perception of what constituted a "green light" or not - if you doubt that take a look at the rationale that "kicked-off" the Iran/Iraq War.

And talking about not acting without the implicite support of people, if you want to pin that on anyone, pin it on the United Nations. Can't think why the Reverend Dr Vincent Zankin is so discriminating.

IMHO - He's talking crap - very trendy, populist, leftist crap, but crap all the same.

Subject: RE: BS: 'Bush is THE criminal' Saddam ha ha ha
From: freda underhill
Date: 06 Jul 04 - 10:50 AM

check the shite thread, Teribus...

Subject: RE: BS: 'Bush is THE criminal' Saddam ha ha ha
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Jul 04 - 11:22 AM

Goering's defence ("them too") was quite legitimate in my opinion, Wolfgang. His Luftwaffe committed atrocious bombings on civilians...and so did the Allied air forces. The Allies outdid him in those efforts merely because they had a lot more aircraft at their disposal.

Goering was really on trial not because his Luftwaffe was extraordinarily more brutal than anybody else's air force, but because he happened to be in the unfortunate position of:

1. being on the losing side
2. being a key figure in a tyrannical and very destructive regime (but anyone else who had lost such a war would have found themselves in a similarly embarrassing position...and their regime would have been seen as an evil one by the winners)

He was also personally speaking a rather unsavoury man in a number of respects, and he certainly abused the privileges of power and acted in a highly egotistical and ridiculous fashion when things were going well for his side...so I am not defending his basic character in the least. :-) He was a disaster for the German nation and for their war effort, since he made a lot of bad decisions and was utterly unable to stand up to Hitler when he needed to.

I am merely pointing out that his defence ("you people did it too") was justified. Bomber Harris was at least as big a criminal as Goering, in my opinion, but he had the good luck to be on the winning side.

Winners are usually awash in self-righteousness and self-justification, and they make sure that their own bloody deeds are revered by future generations of impressionable children. Mass murder, after all, cannot be admitted to as mass murder by an official "winner", can it?

Subject: RE: BS: 'Bush is THE criminal' Saddam ha ha ha
From: GUEST,Larry K
Date: 06 Jul 04 - 11:25 AM

Amos:

Clearly you don't get satire.    So I'll be direct to the point.   I have a very good idea of the american public.   I am in marketing and do 20-50 public presentations to 1,000s of people each year.   Many are salt of the earth rotary clubs, elk clubs, block associations, etc.    I do both low income and high income groups.

If anyone in this forum thinks they are mainstream American they are deluding themselves.   Part of the beuty of folk music is not being mainstream.    We cherish that independence.    But don't think that more people go to coffeehouses than listen to Brittany Spears.   And don't think that the view on this forum is mainstream america.

I read 10 comments praising Sadaam for calling Bush a criminal.   I don't recall reading any comments about Sadaam mass murdering hundreds of thousands of innocent people.   That begged for Sarcasm.   Decomcrats claim they support the troups but oppose the war.   Published e-mails from soldiers in Iraq say that kind of support is Bullsh....   

I believe the actions of many deomcrats cause american lives to be lost and are done solely for political purposes.   They put their own political gains above that of the county.   If I was on a jury, I would find many of them guilty of treason.   That is why the democrats have lost the house, senate, governorships, and the presidency.   So am I out of touch with the american people or are you out of touch with the american pepole?

I contend that conservatives will vote for Bush with pride, while liberals will vote for Kerry holding their nose.   Basically, they will not be voting for Kerry but in essence voting against Bush.   That rarely (if ever) is a winning combination in an election.

To Carol C- just laugh out loud funny.   The people next to me wanted to know what I was laughing at.    I told them that you were an acquired taste that took a while to understand.    Yes- I am sure that Sadaam is still under contract to the republicans.    (sarcasm coming) Sadaam must love the Bushes since killing his two sons, and removing him from power.    He must prefer sleeping in rat holes and prison cells to his palaces.   His real enemy is the Clintons who let him back in power and looked the other way on his oil for food programs.   But the republicans don't need Sadaam to speak at their convention.   They already have Zel Miller- democratic senator who is going to tell why the democrats have abondoned the people and why they must vote for Bush.   I wonder if Ed Koch- former mayor of NYC will also speak.    He wrote an article in Hadassah magazine explaining why a lifelong democrat who has never voted republican in his life is supporting Bush.   Maybe McCain can speak for the democrats. Oh I am sorry- he turned down the VP for Kerry and is also supporting Bush.   Being in Boston, I guess you are stuck with the "swimmer" Ted Kennedy.

Subject: RE: BS: 'Bush is THE criminal' Saddam ha ha ha
From: Teribus
Date: 06 Jul 04 - 11:31 AM

Little Hawk,

Can you tell me of any instance throughout the course of the Second World War where R.A.F. Bomber Command bombed a city that had been declared "open"? I can give instances of where such "open" cities were bombed on Goering's orders.

Subject: RE: BS: 'Bush is THE criminal' Saddam ha ha ha
From: CarolC
Date: 06 Jul 04 - 11:49 AM

Am I in Boston? Very cool. Here I was thinking I was in Alabama all this time. Funny old world innit? At any rate, I am not a Democrat and I will most probably not be voting for Kerry.

Yes- I am sure that Sadaam is still under contract to the republicans.    (sarcasm coming) Sadaam must love the Bushes since killing his two sons, and removing him from power.    He must prefer sleeping in rat holes and prison cells to his palaces.

Yeah. Really sucks for Saddam that he can't get out of the contract, even after all they did to him. But they still need him for the bread and circuses.

Subject: RE: BS: 'Bush is THE criminal' Saddam ha ha ha
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Jul 04 - 12:14 PM

I know what you're speaking of Teribus, but it does not change my low opinion of the RAF's nightly depredations upon German (and other) cities...or the Americans' firebombings and atomic bombings...or the Nazis bombings in Spain and Russia and many other places...or the Italian bombings in Africa before WWII...or the British bombings in the Middle East before WWII...or the American bombings in Vietnam.

Mass murder by great powers for their own gain. Mass murder.

I name all of it for what it is.

Goering merely pointed out the obvious. But because he was a chosen "bad guy", nobody gave him any credibility. The people judging Goering were looking straight at their own ugly reflection in the great mirror of Life...and they were ultimately judging...themselves. Accordingly, they sentenced him to death. That's what they (subconsciously) figured they deserved. Maybe they were right. Maybe not.

Goering "cheated" them of their little petty moment of power and control by taking his own life first with a hidden poison capsule.

When people judge others, they are judging themselves. Execution is murder.

Subject: RE: BS: 'Bush is THE criminal' Saddam ha ha ha
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 06 Jul 04 - 12:46 PM

LarryK have you, like so many Bushites attended the George Orwell school of "truth".

Here is Saddam sealing the deal with his masters.

Saddam and Rummy

Subject: RE: BS: 'Bush is THE criminal' Saddam ha ha ha
From: GUEST,guest from NW
Date: 07 Jul 04 - 12:40 AM

"Probably no point in reminding the negative posters that Saddam is being tried by Iraqis, not Americans. Naw!"

more brilliant commentary from dougR, fox news echo chamber. check this story out doug, if you dare.

http://www.counterpunch.com/fisk07032004.html

Subject: RE: BS: 'Bush is THE criminal' Saddam ha ha ha
From: Teribus
Date: 07 Jul 04 - 04:50 AM

"or the British bombings in the Middle East before WWII"

Little Hawk, have you ever read "Bomber" Harris's memoires? He covers this as he served in Mesopotamia early on in his carreer.

The drill went something like this:

A tribe, or village, engaged in their age old occupation of raiding and brigandage would be reported to the authorities by their victims. An aircraft would be sent to fly over the offending village to drop leaflets warning the tribe/occupants of the village of the date and time of the impending attack. The aircraft would circle for a while then select a piece of open country side near the village and drop one bomb, by means of a demonstration. On the appointed date and time, the tribe/occupants of the village would vacate the place and sit and watch as the village was bombed. They would then return and rebuild their village. This was considered effective as while they were engaged in rebuilding their village they would not be out plundering others.

The same sort of thing was done in Waziristan, and belief in this policy of policing from the air has produced the current state of play in that province of the now independent Pakistan. No government has ever controlled it and it remains to this day to be largely autonomous and outwith government control.

Remembering that the Second World War, in the fullest definition, did not begin in 1939 in Europe, it began much earlier out in the Far East with Japan's invasion of Korea, Manchuria and China. Bombing of civilian centres of population was considered to be justified and was the norm. Natural enough as you do not find centres of transport and communication in unpopulated areas, there existence marks them out as important tactical and strategic targets. The difference is when they have been declared "open", neither side can make use of the facilities they provide until they are actually occupied. In the observance of this aspect the tactical and strategic bombing campaigns of the US and UK air forces, is in marked contrast to that of either their Italian, German and Japanese counterparts.

Subject: RE: BS: 'Bush is THE criminal' Saddam ha ha ha
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Jul 04 - 11:35 AM

That's a kind of amusing reminiscence in a way, Teribus...almost like a symbiotic relationship between one set of brigands (the villagers) and another (the British).

You are quite right that WWII did not start in '39, it just started officially in '39, but had commenced earlier than that in Asia, in Spain, and possibly in Africa as well (with Italy's attack on Ethiopia). As for ideas of relative right and wrong, those are subjective ones which differ according to which side of the pond one is sitting on, so to speak. Fighting forces ALWAYS feel justified in what they are doing, and always see themselves as morally superior to their enemy.

The Germans and Japanese definitely felt that way. Had they won, other people (such as Churchill, Stalin, Curtiss Le May, and "Bomber" Harris) would have been tried for war crimes...and it would have been quite hideous, I'm sure. It was hideous enough as it was.

I look with a skeptical eye on the righteousness of winners who set about condemning and executing losers after a war. Surely losing a war is, in itself, punishment enough? It's plenty enough as far as I'm concerned.

Subject: RE: BS: 'Bush is THE criminal' Saddam ha ha ha
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 08 Jul 04 - 09:58 AM

Back to the top!

Subject: RE: BS: 'Bush is THE criminal' Saddam ha ha ha
From: Amos
Date: 08 Jul 04 - 12:49 PM

LArry,

Bushite that you are, you seem to be occupying one of those famous reality-distortion fields I have heard about.

Please identify three statements on this thread, or on this whole forum, which are in praise of Saddam Hussein.

The fact that Saddam is a psychotic, murdering antisocial son of a bitch does not mean that Bush is not a criminal.

Premeditated assault with a blunt weapon resulting in death is a crime.

Bush has committed said crime.

He would like to use politics as an excuse, but I do not believe he should be allowed to.

A

Subject: RE: BS: 'Bush is THE criminal' Saddam ha ha ha
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Jul 04 - 07:50 AM

I don't think anyone answered SINSULLs question on the casualties of the US military. Numbers can be found here:

Iraq Body Count - military

Subject: RE: BS: 'Bush is THE criminal' Saddam ha ha ha
From: Amos
Date: 09 Jul 04 - 04:57 PM

Larry:

I am sorry -- I misread your post and responded inaccurately -- you didn't say posts praising Saddam, but rather posts praising him for calling Bush a criminal.

The rest of my post stands, however.


A