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early music - the pink album

GUEST,leeneia 04 Jul 04 - 09:08 AM
GUEST 11 Aug 08 - 01:56 AM
GUEST,leeneia 11 Aug 08 - 10:53 AM
Zhenya 11 Aug 08 - 02:25 PM
GUEST,leeneia 11 Aug 08 - 03:41 PM
GUEST,Stephan 14 Aug 08 - 08:03 PM
Jack Blandiver 15 Aug 08 - 04:35 AM
GUEST,leeneia 15 Aug 08 - 11:12 AM
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GUEST,pink prowler anon 16 Aug 08 - 04:28 PM
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Jack Blandiver 01 Dec 09 - 08:29 AM
GUEST,leeneia 01 Dec 09 - 09:25 AM
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Subject: early music - the pink album
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 04 Jul 04 - 09:08 AM

I'm just back from a trip to Europe, and guess what I encountered there. The good old pink album again!

You ask what is the pink album? The pink album is in RCA Victor LP called "Dance Music of the Renaissance." (VICS 1328) It has a pink cover with a woodcut of artistocrats revelling. I bought this album as an impecunious student in 1968 - after much thought and much scrabbling of nickels from the bottom of my purse.

I loved the pink album. While my contemporaties divided their musical loyalty between the Beatles and Beethoven, I listened to it again and again on the record player (also pink) that I got free from a rich senior. I enjoyed the sweet sonority of the recorder and the strumming of the lute. As for the krumhorn, a predecessor of the oboe which sounds like a duck trying to sing, I was glad the selection was short. The album includes pavanes, branles, galliards, etc by famous editors such as Susato, Attaignant, and Gervaise. Since the music was mostly anonymous, was played widely and long, and would have been played by whatever instruments the musicians happened to own, I consider it traditional music.

Since then I have run into the selections from the pink album rather often. Buy a book of Renaissance tunes, and there will be dance from the pink album. Go to a workshop and attend the student recital, and there will be a song from the pink album. From time to time a CD of traditional music slips in a tune from the pink album for a little variety.

A few days ago I was in Nuremburg (sp) Germany, visiting the house of Albrecht Durer, the painter and woodcutter. When you visit the house, you get headphones, and you hear a tour of the house, narrated in your own language by "Durer's wife." And accompanying the narration was the pink album. Not just the tunes from it - the pink album itself. Believe me, I know every measure of it, and that was the pink album again - after 36 years.

I'm curious. Perhaps some student of music history is reading this and can answer by question. Was the pink album a seminal work which re-introduced this forgotten music to the world, or was it a compilation of greatest hits, pieces which conservatory students have been taught for years?

Thanks to it and to a fellow student who encouraged me to ask for a recorder for Christmas, I have made music, made friends, and found something to pass the weary hours when jet lag wakes me up at 4:30 am.


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Subject: RE: early music - the pink album
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Aug 08 - 01:56 AM

The "Pink Album" was the greatest selection of Renaissance music ever compiled onto an LP. Unfortunately it has never been reissued on CD, at least not to my knowledge.


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Subject: RE: early music - the pink album
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 11 Aug 08 - 10:53 AM

Hello, guest. It's nice to hear that there are other enthusiasts about.

Do you play an instrument? If so, what?


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Subject: RE: early music - the pink album
From: Zhenya
Date: 11 Aug 08 - 02:25 PM

I have quite a few early music LPs at home, bought in the late 70s and early 80s, and most never released on CD. This album itself didn't ring a bell with me, but I got curious and was able to find a picture. I'll check for sure at home later to see if I by chance have it, but it still doesn't look familiar. Maybe this will click with someone else, though:

Picture of The Pink Album

(Disclaimer - I know nothing about the actual site this photo is on, which just popped up when I googled, so you'll have to research that yourself.)

As for the tunes, a lot of these tunes were recorded on many different albums. I tend to think of them like Irish session tunes, and have my favorite versions of some of them. I did study and play recorder for a few years and still like to listen to early music, but due to lack of time, I mostly play trad fiddle these days. I still hope to get back to recorder playing as well at some future time. I played classical flute and Irish tin whistle as well at various times, and I never liked either of them as much as I liked the sound of the recorder.

By the way, leeneia, I got to try a krumhorn once. I decided it must be a cross between an umbrella handle and a kazoo!


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Subject: RE: early music - the pink album
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 11 Aug 08 - 03:41 PM

If you even know what a krumhorn is, you have the syndrome.

I often go to a workshop in Texas that holds the annual Krumhorn Konklave in a bar somewhere. We drink beer, sing madrigals and play krumhorns of every size.

This year we had fascinated bikers listening to us, with their scruffy beards scraping on the windowsills. They roared off after a while, but not until they had had a glimpse of a world they never dreamed existed.
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It's hard to see on the link that you posted, but on the cover of the pink album, two people are playing cards and the woman is scratching her index finger on the table to indicate 'give me a card.' My husband plays casino blackjack, and that is still how a player asks for an additional card.

Amazing that such a small gesture could survive for 400 years.


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Subject: RE: early music - the pink album
From: GUEST,Stephan
Date: 14 Aug 08 - 08:03 PM

I still have my copy of "the pink album" and as soon as I can get hold of a decent phono player I'm going to try to digitize it and remove the pops and clicks. Another favorite is the Nonesuch recording "Masque Music - Instrumental and Vocal Music from the Stuart Masque" (Concentus Musicus of Denmark).

After 30 years of working as a church organist and rock band keyboard player I've finally started studying Viola da Gamba and plan to join the local chapter of the Viola da Gamba Society of America (www.vdgsa.org). Wish me luck!


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Subject: RE: early music - the pink album
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 15 Aug 08 - 04:35 AM

So who plays on this particular pink album then?

Another classic early music pink album is O Vilanella by The Consort of Musicke under the direction of Anthony Rooley. Needless to say this fine album has never made it to Compact Disk, and remains little more than a rumour, albeit much cherished, by the faithful few...


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Subject: RE: early music - the pink album
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 15 Aug 08 - 11:12 AM

Good luck with your gamba, Stephen.

You might consider going to workshops such as the Texas Toot or the annual Elderhostel deal in Monterey. They are great ways to improve your playing, meet other players, and just have fun making music.

I mention the Toot and Monterey because I've been to them. I'm sure there are other workshops you might be interested in.


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Subject: RE: early music - the pink album
From: Marilyn
Date: 15 Aug 08 - 12:47 PM

I've never come across the pink album Leeneia but, around the time you're talking about (late sixties), I was a music student (in England) and very, very keen on early music.

David Munro was the person I listened to most and I bought every recording of his. Also, Anthony Rooley was a big influence.

Since then early music has become much more popular in this country and I think David Munro was probably the catalyst that boosted that particular reaction.

Both my daughter and I play recorders in an early music group and our Friday night rehearsals are the highlight of our week! The other members of the group (lute, cornamuse and violin) say the same; we all play more modern stuff as well but it's the early music we enjoy most.


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Subject: RE: early music - "The Pink Album" !
From: GUEST,pink prowler anon
Date: 16 Aug 08 - 04:28 PM

Okay. The Pink RCA album did make it to CD, but it is now OOP. :-( Here are the titles under which it was released and some more album info.

If ANYONE knows where to find this on CD, I will be eternally in your debt. I do have many other Renaissance CDs with many other versions of the songs on this album performed by other artists — but the legendary "Pink Album" remains by far the most memorable, tasteful and enjoyable performance recording to date. Bar none. Can any of you help find it?

Dance Music of the Renaissance, RCA Victrola VICS-1328

aka: Dance Music of the Renaissance, Musical Heritage Society MHS-3938

aka: Greatest Dance Hits of the 1500's, Quintessence PMC-750495.

Includes Branle de Brougogne, Branle gay nouveau, Pavan: Mille Regrets, Ronde, Pavan: Si pas souffrir, Ronde and Saltarello, Hoeboecken dans, Ronde: Il estoit, Branle, L'arboscello ballo Furlano, Pavan, Galliarde, 3 Intradas, Tordion, Pavan, Galliarde, Polnischer Tanz, Galliarde...

Dance music of the Renaissance
RCA Victrola VICS 1328, [1968]
PERFORMERS: Ferdinand Conrad, recorder and crumhorn; Ilse Brix-Meinert, Ulrich Koch, Gunther Lemmen, viola da braccio; Johannes Koch, Heinrich Haferland, viola da gamba; Otto Steinkopf, dulcian; Walter Gerwig, lute.
NOTES: Program notes and durations on container.
CONTENTS:Music by Moderne, Susato, Gervaise, Phalese, Franck, Hassler, Attaignant, and Demantius.
DOUGLASS PHONODISC DMds 9020


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Subject: RE: early music - the pink album
From: RangerSteve
Date: 16 Aug 08 - 11:21 PM

I also have a copy of the pink album, purchased around 1968, along with an album of lute music on the same label. I don't know why I bought them, as I was already playing banjo and harmonica and deeply into traditional country music. It's still one of my favorite records.


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Subject: RE: early music - the pink album
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 17 Aug 08 - 06:15 AM

I have this album too, and - along with that classic 1610 Vespers on DGG and my Juliam Bream records, was always one of my dearest favourites. If I ever manage to unearth my old turntable (buried in a box Somewhere after I moved house) I might have a go at trying to burn it onto CD, though I don't know how good the LP's sound quality will be after years of being subjected to an assortment of student/bedsit/budget stereos. That project is not even on the radar screen at the moment, but if I have any joy I'll resurrect this thread.

David Munrow was also a seminal influence, and I also have always liked the Skeaping clan. Thanks for the memories, Leenia -


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Subject: RE: early music - the pink album
From: GUEST,Frank
Date: 30 Nov 09 - 10:27 PM

I also have the same LP, purchased in February 1971.

There is also a Harmonia Mundi CD, HMC 90610, called "Danses de la Renaissance", with the Clemencic Consort and its original instruments, performing most of the same titles...

But the pink album sounds sweeter...

Frank


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Subject: RE: early music - the pink album
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 01 Dec 09 - 08:29 AM

Clemencic Consort! Respect!


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Subject: RE: early music - the pink album
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 01 Dec 09 - 09:25 AM

Hello, Frank. I have that Clemencic Consort album too. It's nice to meet another early-music enthusiast.

I have come to like the slightly rough, burry sound of early stringed instruments. Recently I attended a concert in honor of Henry Purcell's 350th, where local musicians played his incidental music for 'Abdelazer' [sp] on early-type instruments.

(I was tickled to hear a dance tune we play, 'Hole in the Wall.')

I tried to find a CD of that music, but the only version I could find was all smoothed out and modern-sounding. I said to myself, "That's not it! That sounds like musical cream cheese."
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I agree that the pink album sounds sweeter, except for the krumhorn, of course.


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Subject: RE: early music - the pink album
From: GUEST,Frank
Date: 03 Dec 09 - 08:00 PM

Hi Leenia and Suibhne...

If you haven't heard it, I would like to recommend the Rene Clemencic Consort's "Danses Anciennes de Hongrie", 17th century Ancient Hungarian Dances played on original instruments, on Harmonia Mundi France HM 90.1003, issued in 1978... A stunner!

My interest in early music goes back to 1972, after hearing "Les Menestriers" perform at my SUNY @ Stony Brook dorm, and on their Vanguard Everyman LP SRV.316SD.


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Subject: RE: early music - the pink album
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 04 Dec 09 - 11:46 AM

Christmas is coming, Frank, so I decided to check out that CD. I found it used on Amazon, listened to samples, and decided to buy.

Did you know that there is a way to buy something on Amazon so that the Mudcat gets a percentage? To do so, use this URL

http://www.amazon.com/?ie=UTF8&%2AVersion%2A=1&tag=themudcatcaf&link_code=hom&%2Aentries%2A=0


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Subject: RE: early music - the pink album
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 04 Dec 09 - 11:49 AM

I'll see your Danses Anciennes De Hongrie Et De Transylvanie (which is indeed a stunning piece of work) and raise you a Roman de Fauvel, which remains my personal Clemencic favourite.

Another essential : Guillaume de Machaut: La Messe de Nostre Dame - recorded in 1999!

Must have been around 1972 I my first taste of it too, although I was eleven at the time, playing percussion in a school concert of early carols c/o Mr Marshall who had a folk / experimental / early music thing going on. A crucial epiphany which opened my ears to a lot of stuff from avant-garde musique concrete to the Cantigas de Santa Maria and all points beyong and between. Like many people, I got into the Clemencic Consort via their Carmina Burana albums which I cherish & play to this day.

And whilst we're on The Clems - what about Atrium Musicae de Madrid? Though of course (Rene Zosso notwithstanding) my real EM hero is Jordi Savall whose Alia Vox label is a constant source of pure joy to me.


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Subject: RE: early music - the pink album
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Dec 09 - 02:08 AM

Aha!

Oddly, the French title of "Danses Anciennes De Hongrie Et De Transylvanie" was never fully translated into English, in the Harmonia Mundi CD booklet...

I actually do have a copy of the Roman de Fauvel somewhere in my pile of CD's, and my recollection is that there was quite a bit of dialogue in that recording...

I will look into Guillaume de Machaut: La Messe de Nostre Dame. I first thought there was a spelling error in the title, but when I checked Amazon, I noticed the rest of the individual tracks also look misspelled...I guess many early French words borrowed from the Latin (nostre, etc...)and eventually dropped the "s"...

Alia Vox issues are works of art, and I've been hooked on Jordi Savall ever since Tous les Matins du Monde made it to the big screen...


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Subject: RE: early music - the pink album
From: GUEST,Frank
Date: 05 Dec 09 - 02:23 AM

Xmas indeed leeneia...

But $35 for a used CD on Amazon sounds a bit steep!...

Enjoy it !

Last time I convinced myself to pay collector's prices was for Anne Akiko Meyers playing Bruch's Scottish Fantasy on a discontinued RCA CD...The CD sounded magical on the radio...But at the end of the day, it's Heifetz (again on RCA) who makes the most of that exquisite piece...


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Subject: RE: early music - the pink album
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 05 Dec 09 - 02:40 AM

quite a bit of dialogue in that recording...

Other recordings of RdF go for plain speaking; Clemencic goes for Rene Zosso's masterly storytelling, half canted with searingly cthonic hurdy-gurdy and half intoned with fitting gesticulations. Being familiar with the work in translation helps, but I always find RZ a joy to listen to!

RZ features on the Machaut too, as RC brings us from the folk musicians outside No(s)tre Dame into the sacred space itself where the mass is sung by four voices. A very potent & beautiful piece of work.

My first intro to Jordi Savall was on a duo LP he made with Trevor Pinnock of early 17th century music for viol & keyboard called The Punkes Delight around 1976. Actually, I have a feeling this might be a pink album too, but like so much else I don't believe it made to CD. Do a search on Google and check out its obscurity! The Alia Vox CDs are my only really bad habit; I was hooked on the earlier Savall CDs on Astree, but since they released Diáspora Sefardí back in 2000 (when Hesperion XX became Hesperion XXI!) I think I've bought most the releases. I'm especially fond of the big books; I hope Santa will be bringing me Jérusalem...


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Subject: RE: early music - the pink album
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 05 Dec 09 - 03:52 AM

Just a thought but for lovers of Folk & Early Music, Jordi Savall's The Celtic Viol is a real treat.


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Subject: RE: early music - the pink album
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 13 Dec 09 - 03:36 AM

Favourite Early Music Christmas Album?? Two that get a spin every year:

The Clemencic Consort's spirited La Fete de l'Ane (Feast of the Ass) - long unavailable but you might cop a free download HERE.

Gabrieli Consort's sublime Praetorius Lutheran Mass for Christmas Morning - featuring the best In Dulci Jubilo ever...


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Subject: RE: early music - the pink album
From: GUEST,Frank
Date: 15 Apr 10 - 08:21 PM

Speaking of Jordi Savall and Hesperion XXI, I just finished listening to his "Orient-Occident, 1200-1700; A dialogue of souls....a sense of magical communion with reconciled humanity..." to quote from the elaborate liner notes...(Alia Vox AV 9848, released in 2006).

I picked the CD so as to hear four works by Dimitri(Kantemir) Kantemiroglu, a Moldavian prince who composed while he was being held hostage by the Ottoman empire.

For someone like myself who spent some 20 years in Europe, the Middle East and Asia, it is absolute joy to listen to Jordi Savall perform a selection of tunes that blend effortlessly and seamlessly...


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Subject: RE: early music - the pink album
From: GUEST,ANGUS EDYBURN
Date: 05 Jun 10 - 07:43 PM

It is amazing that so many of you feel the same way I do about that pink album! I was a lute student and purchased the album in 1970 when I was 14. I have lost it and have heard bits of it on wpr.
If anyone can help me get a copy in any form, I would be most grateful. I agree, it is the sweetest sounding of all the renaissance records. Also walter Gerwig, the featured lutenist on the pink album , had two records on RCA called:the art of the lute vol 1 and 2, those are impossible to find too! It makes me very happy to know that I am not alone in missing the Pink album. If anyone has info or a copy please contact me at: angus.northwoods@gmail.com
THANKS!!


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Subject: RE: early music - the pink album
From: John P
Date: 05 Jun 10 - 08:47 PM

This thread sent me scurrying to the dark area under the stairway and a box of old vinyl. I found some gems I'm going to digitize:

Clemencic Consort and Ensemble Ricercare - Danses Du Moyen-Age

Two albums by Les Menestriers

Guy Roberts and l'ensemble Perceval - The Art of the Lute in the Middle Ages

The Ensemble for Early Music - Christesmas in Anglia - Great Christmas album.

I was very happy to find the Thomas Binkley and his Studio der Fruhen Musik albums on CD recently. Some of my favorite medieval music.

I'd like to find the Atrium Musicae de Madrid albums. I used to have them but can't find them now.

I guess I'll have to keep an eye out for the Pink Album!

And yes, I have a crumhorn.


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Subject: RE: early music - the pink album
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 05 Jun 10 - 10:47 PM

It is so nice to hear from others who love early music. I'm not alone after all!


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Subject: RE: early music - the pink album
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 05 Jun 10 - 10:51 PM

There is a page on amazon where the Mudcat gets a donation from purchases:

http://www.amazon.com/?ie=UTF8&%2AVersion%2A=1&tag=themudcatcaf&link_code=hom&%2Aentries%2A=0

(Put that on your Favorites list.)

If you search for Music and Dance Music of the Renaissance, you will find that 3 copies of the vinyl LP are available. However, they start at $24.99. They know they can jack up the price when people are going into withdrawal...


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Subject: RE: early music - the pink album
From: GUEST,Angus Edyburn
Date: 02 Sep 10 - 09:43 AM

I have finally found the pink album "Dance Music of the Renaissance!
I will be digitally transfering from a perfect copy of the LP/ I will send a disc to anyone who wants it. All you have to do is write me an email telling me how much you want it and give me an address, and I will send it.
Angus.northwoods@gmail.com
I am happy to provide this free service.


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Subject: RE: early music - the pink album
From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray
Date: 02 Sep 10 - 10:14 AM

Now that this thread has resurfaced it seems the ideal place to mention that Rene Zosso & Anne Osnowycz's duo album La Mare de Déu has at least been released on Troba Vox. Both Rene and Anne are long term members of The Clemencic Consort and feature on many of the classic albums including the epic Carmina Burana, Cantigas de Santa Maria, & Troubadours collections. On this latest collection they focus on unadorned mediaeval devotional song at its most potently beautiful - two voices, with hurdy-gurdy & citera respectively. A minimal masterpiece & entirely beguiling!


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Subject: RE: early music - the pink album
From: GUEST,Renaissance Man
Date: 26 Oct 10 - 01:43 PM

I also am a pink album fan. I bought it in 1968 or so when it first came out. My copy is almost painful to listen to and I am looking for a pristine digital version. Thanks for all the tips on how to look.

I agree with Leeneia that once you have internalized the sound, you can recognize it anywhere. Did you know that Busch Gardens Williamsburg (this goes back to the late 80's) had a medieval/renaissance section of the park and at that time they used the pink album as the background music! I don't even know if they still have that section as it has been many years since I have been there.

Here is info from the University of Oregon Library:

Title        Dance music of the Renaissance [sound recording]
Publisher        New York : RCA Victrola, [1968]

LOCATION         CALL NUMBER         STATUS
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PHONODISC DMds 9020   
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Description
1 sound disc : 33 1/3 rpm, stereo. ; 12 in
Cast        Ferdinand Conrad, recorder and crumhorn; Ilse Brix-Meinert, Ulrich Koch, Günther Lemmen, viola da braccio; Johannes Koch, Heinrich Haferland, viola da gamba; Otto Steinkopf, dulcian; Walter Gerwig, lute
Notes        Program notes and durations on container
Contents        Moderne, J. 3 branles de Bourgogne. Branle gay nouveau--Susato, T. Pavane ("Mille regretz") Ronde. Pavane ("Si pas souffrir") Ronde and saltarello. Zoboecken dans. Ronde ("Il estoit une fillette")--Gervaise, C. Branle--Phalèse, P. L'arboscello ballo Furlano--Franck, M. Pavane--Galliard--Hassler, H. L. 3 intradas--Attaignant, P. Tordion. Pavane. Galliard--Demantius, C. Polnischer Tanz. Galliard
Alt Author        Conrad, Ferdinand

        Brix-Meinert, Ilse

        Koch, Ulrich

        Lemmen, Günther

        Koch, Johannes, ca. 1910-1973

        Haferland, Heinrich

        Steinkopf, Otto

        Gerwig, Walter

        Moderne, Jacques, fl. 1523-1544. Musique de joye. Selections

        Susato, Tielman, fl. 1529-1561. Danserye. Selections

        Gervaise, Claude, 16th cent. Danceries, 5. livre. Branle

        Phalèse, Pierre, b. ca. 1510. Chorearum molliorum collectanae. Arboscello ballo furlano

        Franck, Melchior, d. 1639. Newe Pavanen, Galliarden und Intraden. Pavan, no. 4

        Hassler, Hans Leo, 1564-1612. Lustgarten neuer teutscher Gesäng. Selections

        Attaingnant, Pierre, fl. 1528-1549. Basses dances. Selections

        Demantius, Christoph, 1567-1643. Neue ausserlesene polnischer und teutscher Art Tänze. Selections

L.C. Subject        Dance music

        Chamber music

Issue No.        VICS 1328 RCA Victor
LCCN        r 68002901
WorldCat no.        8329132

Item URL         http://janus.uoregon.edu/record=b2727911


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Subject: RE: early music - the pink album
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 26 Oct 10 - 07:36 PM

Hello, Renaissance Man. It's good to hear from another fan of 'my kind of music.'


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Subject: RE: early music - the pink album
From: GUEST,Renaissance Man
Date: 27 Oct 10 - 02:21 PM

I really have delved into trying to find a digital version of the "Pink Album" over the last couple of days. I had digitized my own LP version a couple of years ago but the sound quality is awful. I did get back in the attic and pull the LP out so I have it here in front of me for inspiration as I type.

The new album, with the original recordings (at least to my ear and I have a pretty good ear) is now called "Tanzmusik Der Renaissance" and the performers are "Collegium Aureum". It sounds very good. You can find it on the iTunes store-but only if you switch countries to some country outside of the US. For those of you in Europe (I have found it both in the UK and Canadian iTune stores) you are only a digital download away. If you live in the US, you need to switch countries (at the bottom of the page) in the i-tune store and go, for example, to Canada. There you will find that you can listen to the samples, but you are not permitted to buy the product--just call me Tantalus. I am going to pursue this with the Apple folks to find out why not. It makes no sense since the original LP was released within the RCA library but I'm sure there is some legal pitfall.

You can also go to YouTube and search for "Tanzmusik" or Romeo and Juliet and find that some enterprising young Zefferelli has replaced the original Film music (during a renaissance dance between R and J no less) with the first track of the album--the entire first track, and it sounds great. It does not match the action well since everyone is clicking finger cymbals in the scene as they dance--but that's why they invented digital recording.

For those of you not living in the US, the pink album is about 10 US dollars and a one minute digital download away. For us Yanks, it may be a little harder. I'll let you know what I find out from Apple.

Thanks again to Leeneia for bringing this topic up. I went thru Durer's house in 1984 but I did not use the headphones so I don't know if they used the Pink Album back then.
RM


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Subject: RE: early music - the pink album
From: Tootler
Date: 27 Oct 10 - 06:37 PM


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Subject: RE: early music - the pink album
From: Tootler
Date: 28 Oct 10 - 11:52 AM

The record that first got me interested in Early Music was called "Two Renaissance Dance Bands" and was by David Munro. I used to borrow it from my local library and eventually taped it on to cassette as it was no longer on the record company's catalogue at that time.

On one side it had a collection of twelve pieces from Susato played by a variety of renaissance double reed and other instruments. The other side had a collection of music mainly by English Composers of the late 16th Century played by a broken consort of viols, recorder and lute. I later found (and bought) it on CD under the title "Testament: Two Renaissance Bands - Monteverdi's Contemporaries". They have added to the original record some pieces by Italian composers of the late 16th/Early 17th century played by a broken consort.

It's a fabulous album and well worth seeking out if it's still available.


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Subject: RE: early music - the pink album
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 28 Oct 10 - 03:16 PM

It's still available on Amazon. (Use the page where the Mudcat gets a cut.)


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Subject: RE: early music - the pink album
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 29 Oct 10 - 10:34 AM

If I were to make MIDI's or abc's of the tunes from the pink album and provided the chords, do you think anybody would be interested in playing the tunes?


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Subject: RE: early music - the pink album
From: GUEST,Renaissance Man
Date: 31 Oct 10 - 05:51 PM

Leenia,
This may save you some time. If you want to research the actual notation of the pink album you can go to the following site:IMSLP / Petrucci Music Library--
The free public domain music library.

Link = http://www.imslp.org/wiki/Main_Page

I downloaded the SATB for the "Musique de joye" which contains the Jacques Moderne works that start side 1 of the pink album.

Go to the main page.
Browse scores (on the left) and select "composer period".
Select "renaissance".
Select "Moderne, Jacques".
Select "Musicque de Joye (Moderne, Jacques" (the only option).
Download the files.

The 3 Branle de bourgoigne are (start from the numbers at the back) 17, 18, 24 and the Branle gay nouveau is # 27. Start from the back because the work appears to be in two numbered parts.

Number 17 is the unmistakable first cut on the pink album. I was somewhat verklempt to see it notated for the first time after loving it for 40 years. The clefs are tough but seem to be easy to figure out. (I think)

I have played the superius and bass starting on "D" and it seems to work--but I am not a renaissance clef expert.

I will try to find some of the other selections on this site.

Have fun!
RM


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Subject: RE: early music - the pink album
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 31 Oct 10 - 07:14 PM

Thanks, that will save time.

What I'm asking is, do OTHER people want to play them? I myself have been playing early music for quite a while. I wonder if new people want to join the inner golden circle of early-music players.


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Subject: RE: early music - the pink album
From: GUEST,David E.
Date: 04 Nov 10 - 11:32 PM

I received my cd of "Tanzmusik der Renaissance" (Collegium Aureum) in the mail yesterday and it has not left my cd player since. I just wanted to say thank you to everyone who contributed to this thread with such enthusiasm as you lit a fire under me to find a copy of this famous "pink album." What a wonderful recording. Thank you!

David E.


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Subject: RE: early music - the pink album
From: GUEST,Renaissance Man
Date: 14 Dec 10 - 01:15 PM

I did go to Apple and was not able to get very far finding out why we can't get "Tanzmusik der Renaissance" (Collegium Aureum)in the United States.

David E.--Glad you were able to get it. Also glad it sounds great. If you live in the US (I hope)which venue did you order yours from? If you are not in the US, then I am likely still out of luck.


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Subject: RE: early music - the pink album
From: IvanB
Date: 14 Dec 10 - 03:02 PM

I checked Amazon and was able to get a new vinyl copy for $25. There was only one listed, but there are a few used copies available (all vinyl, no cd's). Of course, now I'll not get to hear it until spring, since we're in SC for the winter. Actually I'm pretty sure I have a copy home in MI, but I doubt it's in great shape given the fact that not only I, but my children, played these records over and over. I'll put the new one high in line for making a digital copy.


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Subject: RE: early music - the pink album
From: andrew e
Date: 15 Dec 10 - 01:23 AM

If you look back to Sep 2nd, you will see that Angus offered to send it to anyone who wanted it.
I contacted him, and he emailed me the whole album as MP3s.
Thanks again Angus!


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Subject: RE: early music - the pink album
From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray
Date: 16 Dec 10 - 11:25 AM

Just found another Pink Early Music Album (for 50 English Pennies on Preston Market) although the cover is mostly white and the pink is decidely purplish...

New York ProMusica (dir. Noah Greenberg) : The Renaissance Band (Brunswick 1965) featuring Praetorius Dances, a Heinrich Isaac Bataglia, madgrigals by Lasso as well as two tracks given over to a Demonstration of Instruments. Nice cover pics of regal, crumhorns, shawms, portative, racket etc. with extant inserts of notes & further images. Mint vinyl too; I'll give it a spin later.


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Subject: RE: early music - the pink album
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 16 Dec 10 - 11:53 AM

Purplish, eh? Does it have a line drawing of people amusing themselves, including a pair playing cards? Is she scratching the table to indicate 'hit me'?

(Card players do that to this day.)

I hope and pray that the forces of evil haven't taken to counterfeiting pink albums the way they counterfeit Rolex watches.


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Serious, S.A., congratulations on a wonderful find at a great price.


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Subject: RE: early music - the pink album
From: GUEST,David E.
Date: 16 Dec 10 - 12:11 PM

"David E.--Glad you were able to get it. Also glad it sounds great. If you live in the US (I hope)which venue did you order yours from? If you are not in the US, then I am likely still out of luck."

I am in the States but ordered my copy (cd) through a listing on the Amazon UK site. I just checked and it's still there, yours for only 8pound99. Happy shopping!

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Renaissance-Dance-Music-Various-Composers/dp/B0009W4M4Y/ref=sr_1_10?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1292519215&sr=1-10

David E.


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Subject: RE: early music - the pink album
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 17 Dec 10 - 10:40 AM

If possible, use the page where Mudcat gets a cut when ordering from Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/?ie=UTF8&%2AVersion%2A=1&tag=themudcatcaf&link_code=hom&%2Aentries%2A=0


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Subject: RE: early music - the pink album
From: GUEST,Angus
Date: 20 Jan 13 - 03:55 PM

Hi, I just heard from a teacher who contacted me about obtaining the virgin vinyl digitized Dance Music of the Renaissance, (THE PINK ALBUM).
I actually sent a friend the files from the vinyl and he has posted all of the entire album on youtube. The sound is phenomenal. There is also a photo of the cover. There are 6 posts I believe and you can download a prigram called :"audacity", and record them off youtube.
Here is the link to the first few tracks. I hope you all will enjoy it! I forgot about this site so I am happy the gentleman contacted me so I was reminded to post this link!
Let me know how you like it and have a fun enjoyable reunited experience with this wonderful album!
Here you go:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrJwn2cIdcQ


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Subject: RE: early music - the pink album
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 20 Jan 13 - 09:26 PM

Thanks very much! It's a great sound.


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Subject: RE: early music - the pink album
From: Jack Campin
Date: 21 Jan 13 - 02:34 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrJwn2cIdcQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bu5bfpgyGYA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zmi9FwMfzFs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6OdxqB-nMA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5P_7co_szDA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXbsO7dEstY

Not very well digitized.


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