BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: JennyO
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 09:36 AM

I just noticed that my vote for Adams has put him in a tie with Bush.

Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 11:09 AM

Great going,

I headed to Bed at 2:30 AM and Adams was still a few votes under and this morning he's over Bush! Coll. I can start voting for two under the other Bush.

By the way, LBJ was not the perfect president, but as a Texan it was remarkable he kept the Federal involvement in the Civil Rights movement going forward.

Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Peace
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 03:43 PM

544 to go.

Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Peace
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 11:10 PM

527

Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: JennyO
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 11:45 PM

525 for Millard Fillmore to catch Ronnie Reagan

50 for Lyndon Johnson to catch George W

Only 20 for Abigail to catch Nancy Reagan.

Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Alex.S
Date: 03 Aug 04 - 08:44 PM

Johnson always gets a bad rap -- sure, Vietnam was a mistake, but he must be one of our more progressive presidents.

Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 03 Aug 04 - 09:24 PM

He also knew when to quit. Gotta give him that too.

Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Peace
Date: 03 Aug 04 - 10:10 PM

489 to go.

Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST,Toypresidents founder & president Jesse Comb
Date: 04 Aug 04 - 01:17 AM

Greetings everyone. I am Jesse Combs, and I founded Toypresidents along with my long-time friend Dwayne Crosby, who is also VP for sales and marketing.

I'm not sure quite what to say about all this interest in our simple poll. None of us at Toypresidents could have forseen this scenario. We are proud of our collectible figures and are in the process of producing more. We do not currently have plans to create a Millard Fillmore issue, but we do hope to have all 43 presidents in production by the end of 2005. We also plan to include at least 10 of the first ladies by that time.

We also plan to keep the poll going, just to see what happens. We did recently change it so that visitors cannot continue to vote for presidents currently in production as well as those that are slated for release in the near future.

So, on behalf of all of us at Toypresidents, keep voting and make sure to vote in the real election in November!

Jesse Combs
President, Toypresidents

Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Aug 04 - 08:21 AM

Well sir - there is obviously a grass roots campaign for Millard Fillmore.

Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: DMcG
Date: 04 Aug 04 - 08:41 AM

Abigail has passed Nancy!

Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 04 Aug 04 - 01:17 PM

Jesse Comb

Welcome to the Mudcat. As you've probably figured out, where having fun, hopefully not at your expense. Feel free to ask us questions.

Also, I don't know if we can persuade you, or not, but I'll bet there's a few of us involved with the voting that would actually buy a Fillmore if you produced one.

Thanks for visiting!

Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 04 Aug 04 - 01:26 PM

if for no other reason then to remember this crazy thread!

Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: DMcG
Date: 04 Aug 04 - 01:47 PM

To: Jesse Combs

Dear Sir,
Please consider Blackcatter's application to be the Voice of Millard. I am assured by reliable sources (i.e. Blackcatter) that he is virtually indistinguishable from Millard Filmore. It is false modesty on his part to attempt to withdraw the offer so clearly made above.

I look forward to hearing from you. And indeed him. And it.

Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: SINSULL
Date: 04 Aug 04 - 01:56 PM

I can see the astonishment in their little eyes as my grand nieces and nephews, nevermind my brothers, sisters-in-law, and father, open their Christmas presents - a Millard Fillmore doll that talks! Spaw you have a lot to answer for. Wonder if I can get one that sings "Turkey In The Straw" for Spaw's boys?

Today Hillary Clinton, tomorrow that Bush woman!

Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 04 Aug 04 - 02:42 PM

Hello all,

I did a quick check and it is true that Jesse Combs is the president of Toypresidents. That's not to say that the guest above was really him, but hey, it's not Ed, Pru or the other guy (Oliver?).

Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Peace
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 12:33 AM

425 to go. Post more for Fillmore.

Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Marion
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 03:48 AM

LBJ has just overtaken Bush. Next in line are James Madison and Chester Arthur.

(Never heard of Chester Arthur myself... what's he famous for?)

Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: SINSULL
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 10:52 AM

He was assassinated, I think.

Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: SINSULL
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 10:57 AM

No. Died of kidney disease. Garfield was assassinated and Chester Arthur as VP took over.

Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 11:16 AM

From the White House web site:

Chester A. Arthur

Dignified, tall, and handsome, with clean-shaven chin and side-whiskers, Chester A. Arthur "looked like a President."

The son of a Baptist preacher who had emigrated from northern Ireland, Arthur was born in Fairfield, Vermont, in 1829. He was graduated from Union College in 1848, taught school, was admitted to the bar, and practiced law in New York City. Early in the Civil War he served as Quartermaster General of the State of New York.

President Grant in 1871 appointed him Collector of the Port of New York. Arthur effectively marshalled the thousand Customs House employees under his supervision on behalf of Roscoe Conkling's Stalwart Republican machine.

Honorable in his personal life and his public career, Arthur nevertheless was a firm believer in the spoils system when it was coming under vehement attack from reformers. He insisted upon honest administration of the Customs House, but staffed it with more employees than it needed, retaining them for their merit as party workers rather than as Government officials.

In 1878 President Hayes, attempting to reform the Customs House, ousted Arthur. Conkling and his followers tried to win redress by fighting for the renomination of Grant at the 1880 Republican Convention. Failing, they reluctantly accepted the nomination of Arthur for the Vice Presidency.

During his brief tenure as Vice President, Arthur stood firmly beside Conkling in his patronage struggle against President Garfield. But when Arthur succeeded to the Presidency, he was eager to prove himself above machine politics.

Avoiding old political friends, he became a man of fashion in his garb and associates, and often was seen with the elite of Washington, New York, and Newport. To the indignation of the Stalwart Republicans, the onetime Collector of the Port of New York became, as President, a champion of civil service reform. Public pressure, heightened by the assassination of Garfield, forced an unwieldy Congress to heed the President.

In 1883 Congress passed the Pendleton Act, which established a bipartisan Civil Service Commission, forbade levying political assessments against officeholders, and provided for a "classified system" that made certain Government positions obtainable only through competitive written examinations. The system protected employees against removal for political reasons.

Acting independently of party dogma, Arthur also tried to lower tariff rates so the Government would not be embarrassed by annual surpluses of revenue. Congress raised about as many rates as it trimmed, but Arthur signed the Tariff Act of 1883. Aggrieved Westerners and Southerners looked to the Democratic Party for redress, and the tariff began to emerge as a major political issue between the two parties.

The Arthur Administration enacted the first general Federal immigration law. Arthur approved a measure in 1882 excluding paupers, criminals, and lunatics. Congress suspended Chinese immigration for ten years, later making the restriction permanent.

Arthur demonstrated as President that he was above factions within the Republican Party, if indeed not above the party itself. Perhaps in part his reason was the well-kept secret he had known since a year after he succeeded to the Presidency, that he was suffering from a fatal kidney disease. He kept himself in the running for the Presidential nomination in 1884 in order not to appear that he feared defeat, but was not renominated, and died in 1886. Publisher Alexander K. McClure recalled, "No man ever entered the Presidency so profoundly and widely distrusted, and no one ever retired ... more generally respected."

Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Jeri
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 01:23 PM

I wonder if they'll allow write in votes for Martin Sheen?

Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 01:54 PM

probably not - but I would think Bartlett would be allowed -

Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Peace
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 10:06 PM

364 to go.

Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 10:23 PM

Jesse Combs, I am assuming you are the real McCoy. If so, it's good to hear from you, and I'm glad you're being a good sport about all this. Are you really serious about producing figures of all of the Presidents by the end of 2005? That's a lot of product to tool. If so, you are being quite ambitious. I'm glad to hear that you're going to do some of the First Ladies as well, and I assume that Hillary Clinton will be one of them...as well as Jacquie Kennedy, for sure. Sounds good.

Maybe you could later do a famous folk musicians series too, and tool up figures of our most favourite folksingers. I have seen action figures of some of the heavy metal rockers, of Cheech and Chong, and of Jerry Garcia (very neat!), but never of a folksinger. Now in Bob Dylan's case there are at least 6 distinct Bobs you could do:

1. early Bob in the Huck Finn cap and work clothes (1961-64)

2. electric Bob with the glorious hair and the lean, intense look (65-66)

3. Nashville Bob with the big smile (68)

4. Rolling Thunder Bob with the big hat and vest (75)

5. Born-again Bob in stylish black suit and crucifix necklace (79)

6. Post-born-again Bob in a variety of interesting suits (83-present)

Just think of the possibilities!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 07 Aug 04 - 11:21 AM

Here's the rankings at this point.

George Washington         1872         2117         1726         5715
Ronald Reagan           2974         1394         1295         5663
Millard Fillmore         4011         711         652         5374


George W. Bush                256         218         225         699
James Madison            172         257         265         694
Chester Arthur         81         206         274         561
Woodrow Wilson         66         214         193         473
Gerald Ford            49         167         238         454
Franklin Pierce         25         206         211         442
Zachary Taylor         63         171         201         435
Grover Cleveland         28         213         164         405

Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: SINSULL
Date: 07 Aug 04 - 06:08 PM

804 to put Abby on top. Less than 300 needed to unseat Ronnie.

Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: SINSULL
Date: 07 Aug 04 - 10:43 PM

Chester Arthur and Woodrow Wilson to move little bush down the line.

Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 08 Aug 04 - 09:05 PM

That would be Shrub

Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Peace
Date: 08 Aug 04 - 11:00 PM

243 to go.

Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Aug 04 - 11:19 PM

Oink!

Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Peace
Date: 09 Aug 04 - 01:32 AM

241

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From: Blackcatter
Date: 09 Aug 04 - 11:56 AM

223

Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 Aug 04 - 12:07 PM

Oink!

Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: MMario
Date: 09 Aug 04 - 12:10 PM

LH, what is your point? Are you just upset because Millard is going to be the first US president to be elected posthumously? (For those of you not aware the 'ToyPresident' poll site has replaced the Electoral College)

Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: YOR
Date: 09 Aug 04 - 09:29 PM

Millard's Rocking! Ronnie's going down.

Chester Arthur needs your votes too.

Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 10 Aug 04 - 12:24 AM

Ronald Reagan          2974   1394    1295    5663
Millard Fillmore       4093    718    663    5474


And only 687 votes are needed to put George W in the bottom 10 of the presidents.

Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Aug 04 - 12:34 AM

Whaddya mean, what's my point? I just like saying "Oink!". Specially on this thread. It has such resonance, don't you think?

Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: SINSULL
Date: 10 Aug 04 - 11:20 AM

And what about Abigail? Surely you don't want to see her husband sharing a shelf with a bush or a Clinton?

Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 10 Aug 04 - 12:43 PM

LH,

Well you certainly have an echo.


WUFF!

Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Aug 04 - 01:04 PM

I bet Abigail would have leaped at the chance to share a shelf with Bill Clinton. That's my guess.

Oink!

Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: JennyO
Date: 10 Aug 04 - 01:06 PM

150 to go for Millard Fillmore, and only 12 for Chester Arthur.

Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Aug 04 - 04:29 PM

Chester is over the Shrubya - working on woodrow and franklin.

Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 10 Aug 04 - 04:38 PM

I won't vote for Ford, but that's just me. I'll be voting for those below him as most of them I have no direct grievence with.

Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Aug 04 - 10:13 AM

100 to go for Millard. Dubya is 84 votes out of falling to 12th from bottom

Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 11 Aug 04 - 10:25 AM

Abigail needs 300 votes to edge into slot number two - But Darling Frances needs only 7 to put Jackie-O down.

Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Aug 04 - 02:06 PM

59 to go to bump Shrubya down one place

Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST,Blackcatter
Date: 11 Aug 04 - 03:26 PM

George Washington 1872 2117 1726 5715
Ronald Reagan 2974 1394 1295 5663
Millard Fillmore 4191 733 674 5598

By the way, i will stop voting for Fillmore after he passes Reagan. Y'all can do what you want.

Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 11 Aug 04 - 03:32 PM

ditto.

Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: SINSULL
Date: 11 Aug 04 - 06:49 PM

Someone keeps voting for Hillary Clinton. A 'Catter? This could be grounds for expulsion from the Cat!