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Lyr Req: Mr Noah (Dave Van Ronk)

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BROTHER NOAH
NOW DIDN'T OLD NOAH BUILD THE ARK?


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GUEST,Russell Cowell 07 Jul 04 - 07:20 AM
GUEST,Sooz (at work) 07 Jul 04 - 07:42 AM
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The Fooles Troupe 07 Jul 04 - 09:03 AM
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GUEST,threelegsoman 09 Dec 14 - 02:42 AM
GUEST,Frogman 10 Dec 14 - 01:26 PM
GUEST,Bob Coltman 10 Dec 14 - 05:47 PM
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Subject: Mr Noah - song lyrics
From: GUEST,Russell Cowell
Date: 07 Jul 04 - 07:20 AM

I'm looking for the lyrics to a song which I believe was titled "Mr Noah" and which I believe was originally performed by Nina and Frederik. Sorry to be so non-specific but I never heard the song in its original form - just several friends performed it so I'm not absolutely certain of its title or origins. The song itself is a supposed dialogue between Noah and an animal who was not sufficiently lucky to be included in Noah's passenger list on the ark. I can remember none of the words except that the chorus finished with a rather corny little duet of "doodly doo, doodly doo, doodly doodly doodly doodly doodly doo"

Anyone able to help?


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Subject: RE: Mr Noah - song lyrics
From: GUEST,Sooz (at work)
Date: 07 Jul 04 - 07:42 AM

From (childhood) memory;

Mr Noah please, Mr Noah please
May I ride in the Ark of the Lord
'cos its getting mighty dark
Its going to rain very hard
Doodly do Doodly do
Doodly oodly oodly oodly oodly ooh


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Subject: Lyr Req: MR. NOAH (from Dave Van Ronk)
From: Midchuck
Date: 07 Jul 04 - 08:26 AM

As learned from singing of Dave Van Ronk:

Oh, Mr. Noah;
Oh, Mr. Noah:
May I take a ride
In the Ark of the Lord
'Cause it's gettin mighty dark
Gonna rain mighty hard.
Doodly Do
Doodly Do
Doodly doodly doodly
Doodly doodly do.

("Doodlys" omitted hereafter, but repeat every verse)

Oh, no, you can't, sir
Oh, no, you can't, sir
You may not ride
In the Ark of the Lord
'Tho it's gettin mighty dark
Gonna rain mighty hard.

Well, go to the devil, sir
Well, go to the devil, sir
You can go to the devil
In your durned old scow,
'Cause you know darn well
It won't rain anyhow

Well, listen, young feller.
Well, listen, young feller.
That's the bluff of your life,
'Cause you know darn well,
It's sprinklin' now;
Gonna rain like Hell.

Peter.


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Subject: RE: Mr Noah - song lyrics
From: GUEST,Sooz (at work)
Date: 07 Jul 04 - 08:46 AM

Thats a relief, Peter. That would have been on my mind all afternoon!


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Subject: RE: Mr Noah - song lyrics
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 07 Jul 04 - 09:03 AM

... and thank god it wasn't about 'The Unicorn'!... :-)

... or was it now?


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Subject: RE: Mr Noah - song lyrics
From: Little Robyn
Date: 07 Jul 04 - 04:02 PM

Yes, at the end Nina would say something like
"You know there's no such thing as a unicorn!"
They toured NZ and presumably Australia in the early 60s, when the only other overseas 'folk' on offer included Clausen or Theodore Bikel, so we thought they were lovely. Later I gave their record away!


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Subject: RE: Mr Noah - song lyrics
From: dwditty
Date: 07 Jul 04 - 09:33 PM

I once saw 2 guys perform this song, gargling water (as in underwater) for the last doodleedoo's.

dw


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Subject: RE: Mr Noah - song lyrics
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Jul 04 - 10:32 PM

DEar all,

Many thanks. Russell


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Mr Noah (Dave Van Ronk)
From: GUEST,Mr Powly
Date: 04 Sep 12 - 08:10 AM

Does anyone know the chords Van Ronk uses in his version?

Thanks
Tom


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Mr Noah (Dave Van Ronk)
From: Dead Horse
Date: 04 Sep 12 - 03:14 PM

I dont know where I got these words, but it is what I sing.

Brother Noah, Brother Noah,
May I come into the Ark of The Lord?
For it's growing very dark and it's coming on to rain
Hallelu, Hallelu, Hallelu-u-u-u-ya.

No you cant sir, No you cant sir,
You cant come into the Ark of The Lord
For you have commited sin, so you aint a-coming in
Hallelu, Hallelu, Hallelu-u-u-u-ya.

Very well sir, Very well sir
You can go to the devil with your darned old scow
Cos it aint gonna rain very hard no how
Hallelu, Hallelu, Hallelu-u-u-u-ya.

That's a lie sir, That's a lie sir
You will darn soon tell that it aint no sell
For it's sprinkling now - but it's gonna rain like hell
Hallelu, Hallelu, Hallelu-u-u-u-ya.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Mr Noah (Dave Van Ronk)
From: GUEST,Frogman
Date: 07 Dec 14 - 12:40 PM

Hey, I still have that original Nina and Frederik record (vinyl) if you wish to purchase it.
Oddly, there is quite a bit of Nina y Frederik music on You tube but I did not find this piece...


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Mr Noah (Dave Van Ronk)
From: bubblyrat
Date: 08 Dec 14 - 09:28 AM

I have today been disabused of the idea and / or practice of spelling names containing the Dutch word "van" , as in of or from ,with a capital V , thus (I assume ! ) the guy's name should be Dave van Ronk.But I expect that I am wrong again !!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Mr Noah (Dave Van Ronk)
From: GUEST,threelegsoman
Date: 09 Dec 14 - 02:42 AM

I was asked to do this one a couple of years ago and my version which includes lyrics and chords can be found by clicking on the following link:

Mr Noah including lyrics and chords


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Mr Noah (Dave Van Ronk)
From: GUEST,Frogman
Date: 10 Dec 14 - 01:26 PM

Very nice, Threelegsoman, but allow me to say that the version from Nina y Frederik has additional verses at the end, including the last one that does mention a Unicorn.
I will try to find the time to put it on YouTube within the next two days. Hope I am not running into some copyright infringement... please let me know if you know otherwise.
Thank you.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Mr Noah (Dave Van Ronk)
From: GUEST,Bob Coltman
Date: 10 Dec 14 - 05:47 PM

The origins of this are mysterious to me. Could it be one of those songs that circulated in men's clubs and other private male gatherings in the first half of the 20th century, and didn't enter folk tradition until later?

The earliest version I know is long before Nina and Frederick's: "Brother Noah," as sung by Sam Eskin c. 1947 for the Library of Congress. Is this closest to the original?? Its chorus does make more sense in an old testament context:

Hallelu, hallelu, hallelu, lu, lu.

But the song as sung by the U.S. Marines at an early date (1940s? 1950s?) uses this chorus: Tralaloo, tralaloo, tralaloo, loo, loo.

(The go-to-hell verse dates back much further, to World War I, as the chorus of an entirely different, much more literary glee-club-type song, "Old Noah," which begins "Old Noah built himself an ark, the good old Christian soul.")

Here's the version sung by Sam Eskin for the Library of Congress in 1947:

BROTHER NOAH

Brother Noah! Brother Noah!
Can I come into the ark of the Lord,
For it's getting' pretty dark, and it's rainin' very hard,

CHO
Hallelu,hallelu,
Hallelu, lu, lu.

No, you can't, sir, no, you can't, sir,
No you can't come into the ark of the Lord,
Though it's gettin' pretty dark, and it's rainin' very hard, CHO

Go to hell, sir! Go to hell, sir!
Go to hell with your damned old leaky old scow,
'Cause it ain't goin' to rain very hard anyhow! CHO

That's a lie, sir! That's a lie, sir!
That's a lie, for you know damn well it's a sprinkling now,
It's a-sprinklin' now, gonna rain like hell.

Note: The marine version differs most in the final verse:

Young feller! Young feller!
Thats a doggoned lie, for y' know damn well
That it's getting' very dark, goin' to rain like hell, CHO


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Mr Noah (Dave Van Ronk)
From: Lighter
Date: 10 Dec 14 - 07:50 PM

Hi, Bob!

U.S. diplomat Post Wheeler (1869 - 1956) recalled singing the following at Princeton in 1893:

Mister Noah! Mister Noah! Won't you let me aboard
                                             your Ark of the Lord:
For it's raining mighty hard and I want to get aboard.
                Let me in! Let me in! Let me in!

Poor sinner! Poor sinner! You can't get aboard this Ark of the Lord.
If you want to get aboard you must get a passport.
                Get away! Get away! Get away!

Go to Hell, then! Go to Hell, then! Go to Hell, then,
                                        with your damned old scow!
For it ain't going to rain very long anyhow.
                Go to Hell! Go to Hell! Go to Hell!"

                   (Wheeler, "Dome of Many-Colored Glass," 1955).


That places the song at a far earlier date than any other source I've seen.

Next in line is this, from Meade Minnegerode's college novel, "The Big Year" (1921):

        Brother Noah ! Brother Noah !
        Can I come into the Ark of the Lord
        Cause it's getting kind of dark,
        Going to rain very hard,
                Turulu, turulu, turulululululu!

        No you can't, sir ! No you can't, sir !
        No you can't come in to the Ark of the Lord
        Though it's getting kind of dark,
        Going to rain very hard--
                Turulu, turulu, turulululululu!

        Go to hell then ! Go to hell then !
        Go to hell with your darned old scow,
        For it isn't going to rain
        So very much anyhow--
                Turulu, turulu, turulululululu!

        Young feller ! Young feller !
        That's the bluff of your life and you know darn well
        That it's getting very dark,
        Going to rain like hell--
                Turulu, turulu, turulululululu!


Frank Shay's "My Pious Friends and Drunken Companions" (1929) has a very similar text with "Halleloo" instead.

With Eskin's and Van Ronk's versions, those are the only texts of the song I know of.

It seems odd that it didn't appear in some post-1893 college songbook.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Mr Noah (Dave Van Ronk)
From: GUEST,Bob Coltman
Date: 11 Dec 14 - 06:29 PM

Hello, Lighter,

Good finds! That just about doubles its historic span. Best wishes, Bob


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