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jacqui.c 06 Aug 04 - 01:42 AM
DougR 06 Aug 04 - 01:39 AM
Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 05 Aug 04 - 11:56 PM
GUEST,Fred miller 02 Aug 04 - 01:59 AM
jacqui.c 02 Aug 04 - 01:39 AM
GUEST,William Shatner 01 Aug 04 - 09:31 PM
DougR 01 Aug 04 - 09:08 PM
Blackcatter 01 Aug 04 - 07:23 PM
Little Hawk 01 Aug 04 - 06:34 PM
akenaton 01 Aug 04 - 03:56 PM
DougR 01 Aug 04 - 01:25 PM
jacqui.c 01 Aug 04 - 01:20 PM
Georgiansilver 01 Aug 04 - 12:27 PM
GUEST 01 Aug 04 - 12:17 PM
Georgiansilver 01 Aug 04 - 11:10 AM
Once Famous 01 Aug 04 - 11:02 AM
GUEST 01 Aug 04 - 04:55 AM
GUEST,fred miller 31 Jul 04 - 07:09 PM
Clinton Hammond 31 Jul 04 - 04:41 PM
CarolC 31 Jul 04 - 04:16 PM
Little Hawk 31 Jul 04 - 03:44 PM
Nerd 31 Jul 04 - 03:02 PM
CarolC 31 Jul 04 - 01:35 PM
Little Hawk 31 Jul 04 - 01:03 PM
Nerd 31 Jul 04 - 12:48 PM
GUEST 31 Jul 04 - 12:30 PM
Little Hawk 31 Jul 04 - 12:08 PM
M.Ted 31 Jul 04 - 11:24 AM
GUEST,Disillusioned 31 Jul 04 - 09:11 AM
jacqui.c 31 Jul 04 - 07:42 AM
Paul from Hull 31 Jul 04 - 05:59 AM
Georgiansilver 30 Jul 04 - 07:36 PM
Once Famous 30 Jul 04 - 03:14 PM
Blackcatter 29 Jul 04 - 10:17 PM
GUEST,fred miller 29 Jul 04 - 10:13 PM
Blackcatter 29 Jul 04 - 12:26 PM
M.Ted 29 Jul 04 - 11:12 AM
GUEST,fred miller 29 Jul 04 - 09:44 AM
GUEST,freda 29 Jul 04 - 04:38 AM
Cluin 29 Jul 04 - 02:38 AM
Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 28 Jul 04 - 11:38 PM
M.Ted 28 Jul 04 - 11:34 PM
M.Ted 28 Jul 04 - 11:32 PM
Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 28 Jul 04 - 11:08 PM
Once Famous 28 Jul 04 - 09:42 PM
M.Ted 28 Jul 04 - 09:32 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatr people waht piss you off?
From: jacqui.c
Date: 06 Aug 04 - 01:42 AM

He should send that hairpiece out to find work - it would probably stand a better chance. Maybe it could write a book - 'My Life Covering Shatner'.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatr people waht piss you off?
From: DougR
Date: 06 Aug 04 - 01:39 AM

Glad you asked, John. William Shatner is Little Hawk's third cousin twice removed. He has had difficulty finding work lately, and L. H. has been trying to help him along to find ganefull employmement. Trouble is most of the outer-space jobs have been outsourced to India. That's why Shatner has been selling himself on motel commercials, and L. H. has been brushing up on his Indianese language.

Hope this clears things up for you.

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatr people waht piss you off?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 11:56 PM

Who is William Shatner?


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatr people waht piss you off?
From: GUEST,Fred miller
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 01:59 AM

Exactly, Little Hawk. No one can be a virtual bully unless you allow them to. Why would you?

I can only imagine that what Martin finds funny in his bit is how easy it is to mess with people--he seems to make a point never to try hard, never to be very sharp or interesting, in his routine. There are other posts when he is maybe just himself, has opinions, says things, but that's a different line.

I once had to review a couple of books of short-stories that were so awful I had trouble imagining they were written in any kind of earnest. It was a personal crisis in a weird way. I had to review them, I'd said I would, so I couldn't do the easy thing and ignore them. But as I dutifully plowed through them I began to imagine they were artfully contrived to be really terrible--they had to be. And I didn't know what to think of them, quite. Bad stuff can be as interesting as good stuff, in it's way. It's all the stuff in between that dulls our senses, makes us dull.
   
   So, sincerely. Other mudcatters who piss me off are the ones who offer parroty-mediocre "observations" and never risk pissing anyone off by saying what they really think they think. Even those who we disagree with, violently, mean more to us than that. A bigot is better than a stealth-bigot, for example, I think. If your views make you sound wrong, it's still right to try to say them properly.

The problem with the Favourites thread is that it's hard to answer--you forget who all said what or whose name is which. I forgot Peg and McGrath and Bobert--although I have trouble with Bobert because I get drawn into his style but then can't do it, myself, I can't even bring myself to order a po'boy sandwich at the Hoka in Oxford MS so I have to order something other than what I really want--and John in Kansas who probably doesn't reciprocate it and others who I can't mention now because they've said nice things to me and so it's too late to bring it up.

This thread has gone a long ways without many real answers to the question, which is really a fair question to ask, I think, among grown-ups.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatr people waht piss you off?
From: jacqui.c
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 01:39 AM

Glory be - Marty goes for a week's rest and we gain Mr Shatner. We really are blessed!


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatr people waht piss you off?
From: GUEST,William Shatner
Date: 01 Aug 04 - 09:31 PM

I have compassion for all the good folks at Mudcat, even if some of them desperately need to "Get a Life". (big grin) Which reminds me, have you read my book of the same title? (breathing on right hand and vigorously polishing chest with it)


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatr people waht piss you off?
From: DougR
Date: 01 Aug 04 - 09:08 PM

Well, AKE, I suppose you MAY be an exception.

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatr people waht piss you off?
From: Blackcatter
Date: 01 Aug 04 - 07:23 PM

Y'all are funny.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatr people waht piss you off?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 Aug 04 - 06:34 PM

Is this the fake feuding thread or am I in the wrong place?

I think Clinton's idea of bronzing this thread is one of the few good ideas Clinton has ever had. Let's do it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatr people waht piss you off?
From: akenaton
Date: 01 Aug 04 - 03:56 PM

Doug....I have....framed on my wall,one of my proudest posessions.


A post from you that says *I*   piss you off....Ake


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatr people waht piss you off?
From: DougR
Date: 01 Aug 04 - 01:25 PM

Nope Nerd, you never have succeeded in pissing ME off, though I evidently have an unintended talent for it myself. No apology necessary here.

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatr people waht piss you off?
From: jacqui.c
Date: 01 Aug 04 - 01:20 PM

Martin - unlike you I have nothing to hide and you can find my profile on Mudcat.

To answer your query - nun of the above. I'm not even a Christian and I've never been to Nebraska.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatr people waht piss you off?
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 01 Aug 04 - 12:27 PM

Might have been a man.....


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatr people waht piss you off?
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Aug 04 - 12:17 PM

Ummmm poor old MG wonder which woman made him feel inadequate in his formative years?


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatr people waht piss you off?
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 01 Aug 04 - 11:10 AM

Gibson. You are a total wimp. Meet the challenges you have been given on Mudcat and prove you have something other than insults and expletives.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatr people waht piss you off?
From: Once Famous
Date: 01 Aug 04 - 11:02 AM

Guest, please fuck yourself with an active blow torch. Or at least use a 2 day old burrito. Obviously you are the coward and have some big hang-ups.

JacquiC are you:

a) a nun
b) a nun who owns a vibrator.
c) a nun who owns a 2 way dildeaux (notice the correct French spelling)
d) nun of the above, just a whiner, possibly a fundamentalist Christian from Nebraska.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatr people waht piss you off?
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Aug 04 - 04:55 AM

In defence of stinky kids everywhere, soap and water would not make MG smell any sweeter. A few sessions on a couch may do the trick.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatr people waht piss you off?
From: GUEST,fred miller
Date: 31 Jul 04 - 07:09 PM

Disillusioned guest--I enjoy a comparison that is overwhelmingly wrong. It's what I love about conservative pundits, and fondly remember from those golden Reagan years when he made us all feel good again by sheer force of sincere-sounding nonsense. So thanks for sharing. if you read what people have actually said, though, it's less like a bully's gang, more like people who extend some tolerance toward the stinky kid.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatr people waht piss you off?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 31 Jul 04 - 04:41 PM

Someone needs to BRONZE this thread as a fine example of what Mudcat is really like!

It needs to be perma-threaded and all newbies should have to read it before they are allowed to post...

Think of the bandwidth this place WOULDN'T take up then....


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatr people waht piss you off?
From: CarolC
Date: 31 Jul 04 - 04:16 PM

I agree with you, LH. Best thing to do is ignore them.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatr people waht piss you off?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 31 Jul 04 - 03:44 PM

Oh, it's definitely rude and in bad form, all right, but there's still no use letting it mess up your head and put you in a bad mood. It's not like the person was invading your home, after all. You can just ignore them and continue enjoying yourself regardless. What can they do?


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatr people waht piss you off?
From: Nerd
Date: 31 Jul 04 - 03:02 PM

Yes, that's true, CarolC. It can get in the way of threads to which there is an actual purpose!


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatr people waht piss you off?
From: CarolC
Date: 31 Jul 04 - 01:35 PM

Down here in the BS section, LH and Nerd have a point (sort of). But up in the music section, an intrusion into a serious music discussion by soneone who has no interest in discussing the subject of the thread, but is only looking to get their jollies at the expense of the others in the thread with puerile behavior and gutter language, is rude and in bad form. I'm not pointing fingers at anyone in particular... just pointing out the fact that it does sometimes happen.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatr people waht piss you off?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 31 Jul 04 - 01:03 PM

There's no point at all in getting upset over that kind of stuff on the Net. If you do, it doesn't get you anywhere useful, and it just makes you a mark for further such attacks. If you find it amusing, however, then you are having a good time and it doesn't matter. If the other person is having a good time too, then so much the better.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatr people waht piss you off?
From: Nerd
Date: 31 Jul 04 - 12:48 PM

I find the so-called good guys who are clamouring to be in MG's gang, alot more distasteful, they are so scared of being singled out for a tongue-lashing, they applaud/ignore/laugh at his nastiness....the sort of kids who simper after the school bully.

I presume this is directed at me, since I defended MG on this thread.

My real reson for enjoying MG is simply that I have a rather puerile sense of humor which I am too polite to let out very often. I admit it's my own hangup, but you're interpreting too much if you assume he has a "gang" or if anyone wants to be "in his gang." I personally am not afraid of anything and would welcome a tongue-lashing, provided it was funny. If MG merely said "fuck you" to me it would be disappointing (though even then it would not bother me), but if he somehow introduced rhinoceros semen into the equation (as he did on another thread) I'd be delighted.

Here's what I don't get: how can someone be seriously hurt/insulted by a guy they don't really know and who doesn't really know them? If my wife insults me, it hurts. If someone here insults me, it kinda rolls off, leaving only the humor of the insult behind. But we've been through this already...


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatr people waht piss you off?
From: GUEST
Date: 31 Jul 04 - 12:30 PM

I've never met a bully who wasn't also a coward.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatr people waht piss you off?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 31 Jul 04 - 12:08 PM

Yeah, fred!


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatr people waht piss you off?
From: M.Ted
Date: 31 Jul 04 - 11:24 AM

That "John from Dull" was very funny, Martin--


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatr people waht piss you off?
From: GUEST,Disillusioned
Date: 31 Jul 04 - 09:11 AM

Kind of agree Jacqui, but, at least MG makes no bones of his pleasure at insulting people, especially women, and in the most derogatory fashion. He is easy to dismiss then, because he has said, " This is me, like it or lump it."

I find the so-called good guys who are clamouring to be in MG's gang, alot more distasteful, they are so scared of being singled out for a tongue-lashing, they applaud/ignore/laugh at his nastiness....the sort of kids who simper after the school bully.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatr people waht piss you off?
From: jacqui.c
Date: 31 Jul 04 - 07:42 AM

Sir jOhn invariably makes me laugh Martin. You just leave a bad taste in the mouth with every post.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatr people waht piss you off?
From: Paul from Hull
Date: 31 Jul 04 - 05:59 AM

His act?

Youre actually very much mistaken....

Unlike yourself, there is nothing of the 'act' about the noble Sir jOhn that I can see...


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatr people waht piss you off?
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 30 Jul 04 - 07:36 PM

Still persisting with the puerile name calling Martin. Please take up the literal challenges on the Feuds that are not feuds" and Mudcat bad writing contest" threads. Prove something to us all...like you have some ability other than expletives or downing others...


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatr people waht piss you off?
From: Once Famous
Date: 30 Jul 04 - 03:14 PM

John from Hull:

Your act here is so stale. John from Dull is really more like it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatr people waht piss you off?
From: Blackcatter
Date: 29 Jul 04 - 10:17 PM

Now that's funny!


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatr people waht piss you off?
From: GUEST,fred miller
Date: 29 Jul 04 - 10:13 PM

well there's a difference between fun trouble, which I like as much as anyone, and nastiness. But we each are entitled to our own sense of which is which. When it isn't fun it would be a good idea to ignore it instead of drawing it out endlessly--why try to debate someone who's baiting you, except for sport? Even answering an annoyance is a wee bit fun, or vaguely satisfying, like swatting at a mosquito.

The people here who piss me off are the ones who don't think I'm as funny as I think I am, which is, apparently, all of you. damn you, damn you all.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatr people waht piss you off?
From: Blackcatter
Date: 29 Jul 04 - 12:26 PM

About $50,000 in plastic surgery,


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatr people waht piss you off?
From: M.Ted
Date: 29 Jul 04 - 11:12 AM

He knows the difference between clawhammer and three-finger style banjo picking--


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatr people waht piss you off?
From: GUEST,fred miller
Date: 29 Jul 04 - 09:44 AM

it was killed freda. got out of hand.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatr people waht piss you off?
From: GUEST,freda
Date: 29 Jul 04 - 04:38 AM

I've also been looking for the favourite mudcatters thread & can't find it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatr people waht piss you off?
From: Cluin
Date: 29 Jul 04 - 02:38 AM

You started this thread which was meant to start trouble. Why did you do that?


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatr people waht piss you off?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 28 Jul 04 - 11:38 PM

waht you on about mted, i know loads about folk music [i started the only folk club in hull] [see thread new folk club in hull], and i dont make trubble like him.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatr people waht piss you off?
From: M.Ted
Date: 28 Jul 04 - 11:34 PM

You're a fine one to talk, John--


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatr people waht piss you off?
From: M.Ted
Date: 28 Jul 04 - 11:32 PM

But they still recognize the pointed head from a mile away--not to mention the jake walk--


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatr people waht piss you off?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 28 Jul 04 - 11:08 PM

martin gibson-you are rubbish, and just like makin g trouble, and i bet you don;t know shit about folk music, so just get lost.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatr people waht piss you off?
From: Once Famous
Date: 28 Jul 04 - 09:42 PM

Perhaps, but acting is a fine art.

You could always wear makeup and put on a fake accent.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatr people waht piss you off?
From: M.Ted
Date: 28 Jul 04 - 09:32 PM

You'd kill off Martin Gibson? After building up such an appreciative following? Folks would be disappointed. Besides, as I said, nothing ever disappears in cyberspace--you might think you've made a clean start, but there are fewer secrets here than you think--


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatr people waht piss you off?
From: Once Famous
Date: 28 Jul 04 - 09:11 PM

Yeah, true.

But I don't have to always be Martin Gibson. I could kill him off and start over at anytime and not really care. Maybe even sign off all my posts with "Have a nice day."


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatr people waht piss you off?
From: M.Ted
Date: 28 Jul 04 - 02:54 PM

What you choose to reveal, and what you actually reveal are two different things--

On one hand, it seems as if cyberspace is a place where you have total control of what people know about you--however, as in the non-cyber world, the things that people notice are often things that you are totally unaware of--and, because nothing ever disappears in cyberspace, everything you've ever posted and everything that has ever been posted about you is there for anyone that cares to see it--often enough to put together a good picture--


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatr people waht piss you off?
From: Nerd
Date: 28 Jul 04 - 12:58 AM

I get what you're saying, BillD. I wasn't so much saying that people shouldn't be nicer, so much as saying it's unlikely they will be. Your analogy of the fair-skinned people is actually a good one: Fair-skinned people shouldn't go out in the sun, and if they do then it is up to them to protect themselves, because the sun isn't going to cool down for them. You can say anything you want about MG, he is a force of nature like the sun, consistent and thick-skinned. He isn't going to change just because people get mad at him.

Perhaps being a native New Yorker has had an effect on me: sure, in a perfect world the muggers wouldn't be there, but seeing as they ARE there I had to be responsible for my safety growing up. Sometimes I got mugged. I didn't think it was MY fault, but I simply had to take what I got. I had no choice if I wanted to live my life.

By the way, if you looked through all my posts, you'd find a lot that might identify me: I'm a folklorist, native New Yorker, now live in Philadelphia, have a wife (and thus am probably a man--in fact, I'll tell you now that I am) etc. So I'm not completely hiding. But there are many things you won't find out, including probably my name (though I have PMd it to a few people, so they could always spill the beans).

But as you know, you can't be SURE I'm telling the truth. Maybe I'm a little old lady in Leningrad making Nerd up! Anyway, it's kind of a fun little game, how much each of us chooses to reveal.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatr people waht piss you off?
From: Bill D
Date: 28 Jul 04 - 12:04 AM

well, Martin, I wasn't trying to BE funny right then...I'm pretty hilarious in other threads. (we moths have some very witty 'flame' remarks)

Oh, you mean, perhaps, my failure to get YOUR humor! Those gumball machines diplomas don't cover analysis of humor based on insults and put-downs. (and you wouldn't want my sphincter relaxed much more. ;>)


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