Folklore: Rude Rhymes & Bawdy Songs.

Subject: RE: Folklore: Rude Rhymes & Bawdy Songs.
From: GUEST,singdown
Date: 03 May 11 - 10:19 PM

Unfortunately, in 2011 neither John Mehlberg's email address nor his immortalia website are still functional. Anyone know where's he gotten to?

Subject: RE: Folklore: Rude Rhymes & Bawdy Songs.
From: GUEST,Jack-o
Date: 01 Jul 10 - 01:45 AM

Hi
Does anyone know - when the following bawdy ballads were first recorded and are they in copyright?   1st one is Thrashing Machine which I cannot find any early versions before 1970.

ROSIE ME GIRLFRIEND
Rosie, Rosie me girlfriend
She lets me touch her little twot
I don't know if she likes it or not ----- (and so on)

the other is

ORGY AT BILLY MILLER'S RANCH
I went out to an orgy
At Billy Miller's ranch ----- (and so on)

the last one

POOR OLD BLUEY
Bluey shot down from the scrub, running for his life
Seems they caught old Dusty, screwing Bluey's wife
We were siting drinking at the pub that day
When Dusty had a bang bang bang, with Bluey's wife called May

any help would be appreciated.

J.

Subject: RE: Folklore: Rude Rhymes & Bawdy Songs.
From: LadyJean
Date: 10 Jun 10 - 11:31 PM

Another catter, John Edwards, recorded me singing some naughty songs my mother taught me. (She was an unusual lady.) I'd be deligted to sing them for you too.

Subject: RE: Folklore: Rude Rhymes & Bawdy Songs.
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Jun 10 - 07:09 AM

sex ? anytime pal (6)..

Subject: RE: Folklore: Rude Rhymes & Bawdy Songs.
From: GUEST,Jack-o2007
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 07:46 AM

I wondered if anyone would know any other verses to the following, It also unknown where it originated.

Tiddly-Winks ?

Tiddly winks old beam, have you ever kissed a queen
Have you ever seen a sailor eat a can od sardines
Said the Captain of the lugger to another filthy bugger
Let's have another drink before the ship goes down ... ..

.........another ballad was:-

Which really I only know one line - that I had been trying to fine if there is actually a more to it. I remember my father use to sing in while playing the banjo when we were kids, during the late 1960s.
The line goes like:-

Go home to ya mother, ya little black bugger
You don't belong to me

Another version, I heard from elsewhere (years later) was:

Go home to ya mother, ya red-headed bugger
You don't belong to me.

IF ANYONE CAN HELP WITH ABOVE 3 - IT'LL BE GREAT......

[e-mail]

Subject: RE: Folklore: Rude Rhymes & Bawdy Songs.
From: Joe_F
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 09:44 PM

_The Dirty Song Book_ by Jerry Silverman (Stein and Day, 1982, out of print but seems to be pretty available) contains a lot of the old standards as well as some that I have not seen elsewhere.

Subject: RE: Folklore: Rude Rhymes & Bawdy Songs.
From: John M.
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 01:46 PM

I am reviving this thread to ask for people to SING TO ME over the phone any rude rhymes & bawdy songs that they learned for a folklore project. People often think of these as rugby songs, military songs or hash house harrier songs and are traditional bawdy songs.

If you know a rude rhyme or bawdy song, please send me an email at john AT mehlberg D-O-T com.   If you like I can keep the recording of you singing anonymous.

Any help will be appreciated.

Sincerely,

John Mehlberg
www.immortalia.com
~
Common song titles:

    I Used To Work In Chicago
    The S&M Man
    My Name Is Jack
    Caviar Comes From the Virgin Sturgeon
    The Ball of Kirriemuir
    Sammy Small
    Sweet Violets
    Bang Away, Lulu

Subject: RE: Folklore: Rude Rhymes & Bawdy Songs.
From: Forsh
Date: 22 Sep 04 - 05:21 AM

Here's another link for your perusal: BAWDY LINK
Oh, and... "Remember the night, you fell in the shite, ya had ya best suite on, the one with the stripes,the one that ya baught with Embassy coupons, Magic, Moments, ...etc
Filth, it's a great leveler!!

Subject: RE: Folklore: Rude Rhymes & Bawdy Songs.
From: NightWing
Date: 21 Sep 04 - 09:02 PM

JWB asked, "Would someone be so kind as to define 'hashing', 'hash house' and 'harrier' songs? I've never encountered the terms before."

The Hash House Harriers are the infamous international "drinking club with a running problem." You can find out more about the Hash at http://www.harrier.net.

Like ruggers (rugby players, of course) we like to sing bawdy songs after our runs.

ON-ON

Little Head aka Shut Yer Manhole

(and, here on the Mudcat, as NightWing)

Subject: RE: Folklore: Rude Rhymes & Bawdy Songs.
From: pavane
Date: 16 Jul 04 - 05:13 AM

Three drunken maidens (from the Isle of Wight) has a bawdy verse - omitted in recorded versions. I presume you already have that.

I am not sure how traditional it is though - if and when that verse was collected.

Subject: RE: Folklore: Rude Rhymes & Bawdy Songs.
From: Uke
Date: 15 Jul 04 - 06:47 PM

Hello John

Incredible website - congratulations...! And thanks too, a great resource...

Subject: RE: Folklore: Rude Rhymes & Bawdy Songs.
From: John M.
Date: 15 Jul 04 - 03:23 PM

Thanks for the feedback.

Yes, I too enjoy the Ed McCurdy recordings of When Dalliance Was in Flower -- all of which are on my website. These are songs are primarily derived from Thomas D'Urfey's Pills to Purge.

I am looking for BAWDY FOLKSONGS that were learned from other people. Most people seem to have learned their traditional bawdy songs while in college, in the military, while playing sports (e.g. Rugby) or as a Hash House Harrier.

So if any of you know any bawdy songs, would you be willing to sing them? I can make the recording anonymous if you prefer.

If yes, you can email me directly at John Mehlberg.

Any help will be appreciated.

Sincerely,

John Mehlberg
~
Here is my current 3300 mp3 collection of -- mostly traditional -- bawdy songs: http://www.immortalia.com/sounds/download-bawdy-mp3-song.htm

Subject: RE: Folklore: Rude Rhymes & Bawdy Songs.
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 15 Jul 04 - 02:34 PM

It wouldn't do any good then to suggest extant recordings because they're already under copyright in other venues. If someone learned a song, for example, from an Ed McCurdy recording (The Daliance albums, for example), is that what you're looking for, or do you want simply the neighborhood bawdy song handed down informally?

In the "For What it's Worth" category, I enjoy and laugh at the McCurdy songs and others, but the few I listened to in this thead seem to fall into a "guy thing" mode or perhaps "juvenile (but not necessarily youthful) humor." It's bound to have plenty of takers, but I think I'll leave it here. :-/

SRS

Subject: RE: Folklore: Rude Rhymes & Bawdy Songs.
From: GUEST,John Mehlberg
Date: 15 Jul 04 - 01:24 PM

Greetings everyone,

I already have almost every book published that has bawdy songs in them -- and a few manuscripts that have never been published. I seek people to SING for me the bawdy songs that they know.

You can email me directly at John AT Mehlberg D-O-T com

I do not make any money from this project and all songs sung, with your permission, will be public domain. Here is an example of bawdy songs that I have recorded.

Field Recording - John Mehlberg Collection - See Notes.

• Digital Recording -Tom "Fuk Stik" Tarka - 2004.05.07
  • A Frenchman Went To The Lavatory  Size: 59KB  Time: 0:19
  • 'gina [Dina]  Size: 52KB  Time: 0:17
  • A Is For A [Song With Description]  Size: 796KB  Time: 4:25
  • All Australians Are Born Illegitimate  Size: 53KB  Time: 0:17
  • Anthony Roley  Size: 318KB  Time: 1:46
  • Are You Going To Get A Hard-on (It's Rising Now)  Size: 21KB  Time: 0:07
  • Are You Going To Get A Hard-on (So Suck Me Off)  Size: 18KB  Time: 0:06
  • As I Was Walking [fragment]  Size: 98KB  Time: 0:32
  • Asshole [A Soldier I Will Be]  Size: 29KB  Time: 0:09
  • Balls To Mr. Bangelsteen  Size: 107KB  Time: 0:35
  • Balls To Mr. Bangelstein [Singer: John Mehlberg]  Size: 234KB  Time: 1:18
  • Bang Bang Lulu  Size: 39KB  Time: 0:13
  • Barcelona  Size: 108KB  Time: 0:36
  • Charlotte The Harlot Lay Dying  Size: 80KB  Time: 0:26
  • Come Sit On My Face If You Love Me [fragment]  Size: 41KB  Time: 0:13
  • Days Of The Week  Size: 765KB  Time: 4:15
  • Dina Won't You Blow Me  Size: 56KB  Time: 0:18
  • Do Your Balls Hang Low  Size: 24KB  Time: 0:08
  • Doggies Meeting [with Performance Notes]  Size: 344KB  Time: 1:54
  • Edge Of Creation [Mrs. Murphy]  Size: 56KB  Time: 0:18
  • Follow The Hash  Size: 62KB  Time: 0:20
  • Fuck A Duck A Female Duck  Size: 180KB  Time: 1:00
  • Gang Bang  Size: 78KB  Time: 0:26
  • Get It Up, Get It In, Get It Out [attrib. to "Sex Toy and Rose Eh" Toronto HHH]  Size: 39KB  Time: 0:13
  • Glorious Victorious [chorus only]  Size: 31KB  Time: 0:10
  • God Bless My Underpants  Size: 54KB  Time: 0:18
  • Have It You Way [parody Of Burger King Commercial]  Size: 48KB  Time: 0:16
  • He Ought To Be Publicly Pissed On  Size: 18KB  Time: 0:06
  • He's The Horses Ass [He Takes It Up The Ass]  Size: 87KB  Time: 0:29
  • Head Who Said Head [with Additional Verse]  Size: 129KB  Time: 0:43
  • Hello Penis My Old Friend  Size: 277KB  Time: 1:32
  • Here's To Them They Are Blue [down-down Song]  Size: 28KB  Time: 0:09
  • Hitler Has Only Got One Ball  Size: 28KB  Time: 0:09
  • I Love My Gal [variant tune]  Size: 46KB  Time: 0:15
  • John Thomas  Size: 300KB  Time: 1:40
  • Jr. Birdman [With Performance Notes]  Size: 325KB  Time: 1:48
  • Lady In Red  Size: 126KB  Time: 0:42
  • Lassie With The Black Hairy Assie  Size: 144KB  Time: 0:48
  • Last Night I Stayed Up Late To Masturbate  Size: 102KB  Time: 0:34
  • Leprosy [fragment]  Size: 100KB  Time: 0:33
  • Lil Lived In A House Of Ill Reputey  Size: 194KB  Time: 1:04
  • My Girls A Vegetable  Size: 74KB  Time: 0:24
  • Nancy Brown [Rolling Down The Mountain]  Size: 271KB  Time: 1:30
  • Nellie 'awkins  Size: 452KB  Time: 2:30
  • Periwinkle Song  Size: 119KB  Time: 0:39
  • Pubic Hairs  Size: 37KB  Time: 0:12
  • Pull Back My Four Skin For Me  Size: 51KB  Time: 0:17
  • Put Your Left Leg Over My Shoulder  Size: 26KB  Time: 0:08
  • S & M Man [with Performance Notes]  Size: 227KB  Time: 1:15
  • S-c-r-o-t-u-m  Size: 51KB  Time: 0:17
  • Sex Is Boring Pain Is Fun  Size: 61KB  Time: 0:20
  • She's A Little Sex Pot  Size: 87KB  Time: 0:29
  • Singing In The Rain Hash Version  Size: 560KB  Time: 3:06
  • Suck Swallow Hurl [Alternative To Why Are We Waiting]  Size: 19KB  Time: 0:06
  • Take It In Your Hand Mrs. Murphy [Down Down And Variant]  Size: 71KB  Time: 0:23
  • The Balls Of O'Leary  Size: 81KB  Time: 0:27
  • The British Grenadier  Size: 67KB  Time: 0:22
  • The Button Factory  Size: 209KB  Time: 1:09
  • The Color Song  Size: 123KB  Time: 0:41
  • The Engineer's Song [with Performance Notes]  Size: 291KB  Time: 1:37
  • The Girl From Baltimore [with Commentary And Performance Notes]  Size: 437KB  Time: 2:25
  • The Little Brown Mouse  Size: 80KB  Time: 0:26
  • The Lobster  Size: 218KB  Time: 1:12
  • The Monks Of Saint Bernard  Size: 73KB  Time: 0:24
  • There Was A Little Bird No Bigger Than A Turd  Size: 200KB  Time: 1:06
  • This Is Your Down Down Song It Isn't Very Long  Size: 12KB  Time: 0:04
  • Twinkle Twinkle Little Hasher [fragment]  Size: 32KB  Time: 0:10
  • Up Jumped The Monkey From The Coconut Grove  Size: 65KB  Time: 0:21
  • Vagina In The Morning  Size: 43KB  Time: 0:14
  • Walking Down Canal Street  Size: 140KB  Time: 0:46
  • We've Got Virgins At Our Hash  Size: 30KB  Time: 0:10
  • When I Was A Little Girl I Had A Little Thing  Size: 262KB  Time: 1:27
  • When The End Of The Month Rolls Along  Size: 115KB  Time: 0:38
  • Whip It Out At The Ball Game  Size: 134KB  Time: 0:44
  • Why Was He Born So Beautiful [One Ball Variant]  Size: 26KB  Time: 0:08
  • Why Were They Born So Beautiful [Long Version]  Size: 42KB  Time: 0:14
  • Why Were They Born So Beautiful [Medium Version]  Size: 35KB  Time: 0:11
  • Why Were They Born So Beautiful [Short Version]  Size: 24KB  Time: 0:08
  • Why Were They Born So Beautiful [Three Parts Complete]  Size: 69KB  Time: 0:23
  • You Can Go Get Fucked  Size: 183KB  Time: 1:01
  • Zulu Warrior [Two Versions]  Size: 34KB  Time: 0:11

Subject: RE: Folklore: Rude Rhymes & Bawdy Songs.
From: JWB
Date: 15 Jul 04 - 12:23 PM

Would someone be so kind as to define "hashing", "hash house" and "harrier" songs? I've never encountered the terms before.

Thanks.

Also, Ed Cray has published both "The Erotic Muse" and "Bawdy Ballads", an edition of the former I purchased recently right here at the Mudcat auction. "Erotic Muse" is an expanded version of "Bawdy Ballads".

Jerry

Subject: RE: Folklore: Rude Rhymes & Bawdy Songs.
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 15 Jul 04 - 11:47 AM

Radriano's post reminds me to mention "What Do You Do With a Drunken Sailor," unexpurgated sea chanties, by Douglas Morgan, 124 pp., Swordsmith Books, 2002, in paperback. (Mentioned in other threads)

Subject: RE: Folklore: Rude Rhymes & Bawdy Songs.
From: Nerd
Date: 15 Jul 04 - 11:40 AM

Sorry, Stu, you're right! The Erotic Muse is Cray's famous study of Bawdy songs (second edition, 1992).

Q: we used to sing "that's how they got li'l ol' me" at the end of the bawdy "My Bonnie." It's the only version I knew as a child!

Subject: RE: Folklore: Rude Rhymes & Bawdy Songs.
From: radriano
Date: 15 Jul 04 - 11:07 AM

Check out the sea songs at:

Salty Dick's Uncensored Sea Songs

Subject: RE: Folklore: Rude Rhymes & Bawdy Songs.
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 15 Jul 04 - 07:49 AM

Ed Cray, in his introduction to "The Erotic Muse," gives examples of a child's bawdy rhymes. The girl, pointing to her breasts, genitals and buttocks, chants:

Milk, milk, lemonade,
Around the corner where fudge is made.

and:
My bonnie lies over the ocean.
My bonnie lies over the sea.
My father lies over my mother,
And that's how I came to be.

Children's bawdy rhymes are not well represented in published literature, having been ignored by Opie, Baring-Gould and the like, and perhaps would be worth exploring in a thread, but "adult" material is so well-covered by the volumes of Randolph and Legman, Cray and others that it is hard to make original contributions.

Subject: RE: Folklore: Rude Rhymes & Bawdy Songs.
From: s&r
Date: 15 Jul 04 - 06:35 AM

Ed Cray may have written other books; I have in front of me 'Bawdy Ballads' compiled by Ed Cray and published in 1970
Stu

Subject: RE: Folklore: Rude Rhymes & Bawdy Songs.
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Jul 04 - 05:48 AM

G;day Leadfingers,

I don't have the time, or patience to transcibe ALL the Bawdy Ballads. GUESt Johm - you'll find tem of 'em at this D/Urfey link. Mumble... here's Another link...

Cheers Sam - Singing "Eskimo Nell"... or is it "Charlotte".. or...???

I can't remember.....

Cheers - Sam

Subject: RE: Folklore: Rude Rhymes & Bawdy Songs.
From: Nerd
Date: 15 Jul 04 - 02:59 AM

True, but I'll mention that Ed Cray's book is actually called The Erotic Muse.

Our Guest's request on the surface seems odd. Why would he care if we learned them for a folklore project? On the other hand, if he merely means that he wants them for a folklore project, then the "that they learned" becomes redundant; clearly we could only sing songs we had learned.

Subject: RE: Folklore: Rude Rhymes & Bawdy Songs.
From: Terry K
Date: 15 Jul 04 - 02:18 AM

Note that our GUEST John Mehlberg posted

"I am seeking people to sing me rude rhymes & bawdy songs that they learned for a folklore project".

He didn't ask for recommendations of good books.

Subject: RE: Folklore: Rude Rhymes & Bawdy Songs.
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 15 Jul 04 - 12:02 AM

?No one has mentioned the two volume set, "Roll Me In Your Arms" and "Blow the Candle Out," Randolph and Legman, over 950 quarto-sized pages of bawdy and "unprintable" Ozark Folksongs, pub. by Univ. Arkansas. (Since bawdy songs travelled everywhere, these are not just Arkansas versions. Still available at near published price.

Subject: RE: Folklore: Rude Rhymes & Bawdy Songs.
From: Celtaddict
Date: 14 Jul 04 - 10:38 PM

Besides Oscar Brand's longlived series of "Bawdy Songs and Backroom Ballads" (those we called "Basement songs" when I was in school) you might want to check out Richard "Salty Dick" Docker's recent release "Uncensored Sea Songs" from Old Fashioned Music. (www.oldfashionedmusic.com)

Subject: RE: Folklore: Rude Rhymes & Bawdy Songs.
From: Bill D
Date: 14 Jul 04 - 09:52 PM

oh, I wouldn't say th

Subject: RE: Folklore: Rude Rhymes & Bawdy Songs.
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 14 Jul 04 - 08:52 PM

Bill D-
You always did have a short attention span.

Subject: RE: Folklore: Rude Rhymes & Bawdy Songs.
From: Bill D
Date: 14 Jul 04 - 12:13 PM

I do hope John Mehlberg comes back to follow up, as not everyone will go to the trouble to send emails when we trade information here, mostly.

(There are many places you can find bawdy songs...it's always a popular topic...but except for research purposes, I don't particularly care for the 'hashing' versions, as they tend to get into filth for filth's sake, with little concern for accuracy and construction as long as it is long, loud and goes well with LOTS of beer! *grin* )

Many bawdy songs are quite clever and funny, but after the 23td gratuitous verse which is just an excuse to bellow out naughty names for body parts and acts, I do get a mite bored..

Subject: RE: Folklore: Rude Rhymes & Bawdy Songs.
From: NightWing
Date: 14 Jul 04 - 12:00 PM

Whoops! That didn't work. Let me try this again, with apologies.

Being the Hash Mouth for the Denver and Boulder Hash House Harriers, my own website has a quite a few Hashing songs, some with links to tunes. These are mostly modern, rather than traditional, however.

ON-ON

Little Head / Shut Yer Manhole

(aka [here on the Mudcat] NightWing)

Subject: RE: Folklore: Rude Rhymes & Bawdy Songs.
From: NightWing
Date: 14 Jul 04 - 11:55 AM

Being Hash Mouth for the Denver and Boulder Hash House Harriers,

Subject: RE: Folklore: Rude Rhymes & Bawdy Songs.
From: Bert
Date: 14 Jul 04 - 08:20 AM

And you can search DT for @BAWDY

Subject: RE: Folklore: Rude Rhymes & Bawdy Songs.
From: Leadfingers
Date: 14 Jul 04 - 05:37 AM

I would reccomend Thomas D'Urfey's 'Pills to Purge Meloncholy' - a wonderful collection of seventeenth century filth .

Subject: RE: Folklore: Rude Rhymes & Bawdy Songs.
From: pavane
Date: 14 Jul 04 - 05:11 AM

'Llewtrah' has a large number on her web site - link can be found somewhere in the threads here.

Subject: RE: Folklore: Rude Rhymes & Bawdy Songs.
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 14 Jul 04 - 04:15 AM

John, try and find a book by Ed Cray entitled ' Bawdy Ballads ' a serious study but enough bawdy songs for anyone.

eric

Subject: RE: Folklore: Rude Rhymes & Bawdy Songs.
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 14 Jul 04 - 04:03 AM

Kirriemuir, and it's in the Angus in Scotland.
Giok

Subject: Folklore: Rude Rhymes & Bawdy Songs.
From: GUEST,John Mehlberg
Date: 14 Jul 04 - 12:19 AM

I am seeking people to sing me rude rhymes & bawdy songs that they learned for a folklore project. People often think of these as rugby songs, military songs or hash house harrier song and are shared traditional bawdy songs.

If you know a rude rhyme or bawdy song, please send me an email at john AT mehlberg D-O-T com.

Any help will be appreciated.

Sincerely,

John Mehlberg
www.immortalia.com
~
Common song titles:

    I Used To Work In Chicago
    The S&M Man
    My Name Is Jack
    Caviar Comes From the Virgin Sturgeon
    The Ball of Kerrymoor
    Sammy Small
    Sweet Violets
    Bang Away, Lulu