Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson

Subject: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 21 Jul 04 - 01:56 PM

Someone under the guise of "GUEST" is trying to start a rumour that I am in fact Martin Gibson. I find this kind of rumourmongering both tiresome and immature. I trust that all those who are regular catters can tell the difference!! "GUEST" If you are reading this then please try to use some sense as well as finding a mudcat identity before trying to confuse a large group of essentially mature people(with a few exceptions). Be Blessed.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 21 Jul 04 - 02:01 PM

Sorry, this was meant to go on the Non music thread.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: jimmyt
Date: 21 Jul 04 - 02:59 PM

I never thought you 2 were the same person, although I thought you may be dating.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Ebbie
Date: 21 Jul 04 - 03:06 PM

And having a spat. :~)

(Not to worry, gSilver. If you were one in the same person, it would mean that you are most severely conflicted. And that is not how you come across. mGibson, on the other hand...!)

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Jul 04 - 03:22 PM

wink wink.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Travelling Audience
Date: 21 Jul 04 - 03:26 PM

The very thought of GS being MG is absurd. Ebbie has got the right idea.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Little Hawk
Date: 21 Jul 04 - 03:47 PM

Ha! An absurd idea. However, be blessed, Guest...

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Once Famous
Date: 21 Jul 04 - 04:04 PM

If there is any doubt that I am not Georgiansilver then:

Be fucked.

He is a pussy, but not my type.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Nerd
Date: 21 Jul 04 - 04:15 PM

Now THAT's the MG we know and love!

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Peace
Date: 21 Jul 04 - 04:21 PM

Now, THAT a guy can say ten times fast.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Bill D
Date: 21 Jul 04 - 05:54 PM

LOL, brucie...

Subject: Lyr Add: THE REVOLUTION WILL NOT BE TELEVISED
From: GUEST,WHO'S COMING FOR DINNER
Date: 21 Jul 04 - 08:33 PM

You will not be able to stay home, brother.
You will not be able to plug in, turn on and cop out.
You will not be able to lose yourself on skag and skip,
Skip out for beer during commercials,
Because the revolution will not be televised.

The revolution will not be televised.
The revolution will not be brought to you by Xerox
In 4 parts without commercial interruptions.
The revolution will not show you pictures of Nixon
blowing a bugle and leading a charge by John
Mitchell, General Abrams and Spiro Agnew to eat
hog maws confiscated from a Harlem sanctuary.
The revolution will not be televised.

The revolution will not be brought to you by the
Schaefer Award Theatre and will not star Natalie
Woods and Steve McQueen or Bullwinkle and Julia.
The revolution will not give your mouth sex appeal.
The revolution will not get rid of the nubs.
The revolution will not make you look five pounds
thinner, because the revolution will not be televised, Brother.

There will be no pictures of you and Willie May
pushing that shopping cart down the block on the dead run,
or trying to slide that color television into a stolen ambulance.
NBC will not be able predict the winner at 8:32
or report from 29 districts.
The revolution will not be televised.

There will be no pictures of pigs shooting down
brothers in the instant replay.
There will be no pictures of pigs shooting down
brothers in the instant replay.
There will be no pictures of Whitney Young being
run out of Harlem on a rail with a brand new process.
There will be no slow motion or still life of Roy
Wilkens strolling through Watts in a Red, Black and
Green liberation jumpsuit that he had been saving
For just the proper occasion.

Green Acres, The Beverly Hillbillies, and Hooterville
Junction will no longer be so damned relevant, and
women will not care if Dick finally gets down with
Jane on Search for Tomorrow because Black people
will be in the street looking for a brighter day.
The revolution will not be televised.

There will be no highlights on the eleven o'clock
news and no pictures of hairy armed women
liberationists and Jackie Onassis blowing her nose.
The theme song will not be written by Jim Webb,
Francis Scott Key, nor sung by Glen Campbell, Tom
Jones, Johnny Cash, Englebert Humperdink, or the Rare Earth.
The revolution will not be televised.

The revolution will not be right back after a message
bbout a white tornado, white lightning, or white people.
You will not have to worry about a dove in your
bedroom, a tiger in your tank, or the giant in your toilet bowl.
The revolution will not go better with Coke.
The revolution will not fight the germs that may cause bad breath.
The revolution will put you in the driver's seat.

The revolution will not be televised, will not be televised,
will not be televised, will not be televised.
The revolution will be no re-run brothers;
The revolution will be live.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 21 Jul 04 - 08:55 PM

Well, that's made it a music thread - perhaps...

But who wrote it, and can we have a tune/chords?

Robin

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 21 Jul 04 - 09:12 PM

Gil Scot Heron, and you can find it on his album The Revolution Will Not Be Televised. It isn't sung. In fact, it is probably one of the first instances of rap music, but a much more intelligent type, with beatnik overtones. Heron was a member of the Last Poets, a group of black performance artists. He's now an English Professor at NYU.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Joe Offer
Date: 21 Jul 04 - 10:30 PM

Well, with my magic eye, I can tell that Georgiansilver and Martin Gibson come from completely different worlds, not to mention different realms of reality.
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Once Famous
Date: 21 Jul 04 - 10:47 PM

Of course, Joe!

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 21 Jul 04 - 11:24 PM

Joe-Is martin Gibson a seperate member, or a mudcat member pretending to be someone else?
ie somebody using 2 different names?

if so=i think this is bad,
i only ever posrted as the same name here, [even though i changed it, i was john in hull, then joihn from hull, then sir john from hull]
but i never farted about with different names.

[i dont think i can on internet tv anyway]

anyeay, if he is using different names, then he is just trying to make trubble.


anyway=if you got something to say,m then say it, [in your normal name, not a different one]


there was some body saying bad things about me, before, as Ivor Biggin , and people tjought it was someone using a different name, i'm not bothered,
if you want to say anything about me [or someone else], just say it, why use a differreent name?

them people that do that, are just stupid, and got nothing better to do, than make truoble,
they should get out more, sing or play there instruments etc, not make trouble with differrent names.


anyway=if its true, why dont you stop them?, ie just let them only use one name, and if they use 2, dont let the new messages go.?

i think this is a good idea.john

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Blackcatter
Date: 21 Jul 04 - 11:46 PM

I beleive Gil Scott-Heron is currently on parole for a drug charge. He's been in jail twice since 2001. A remarkable poet of the 1970s who probably did lend inspiriation to rap music.

What's that go to do with the thread?

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Peace
Date: 21 Jul 04 - 11:51 PM

jOhn from 'ull: May I ask what the MBE stands for?

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 12:02 AM

Member of the British Empire... supposedly, but I suppose the fertile minds here can create other acronymns....

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Peace
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 12:09 AM

Thank you, mate. I just found out you're an Aussie. Therefore, also thank you for not taking me to task for insulting Foster's liquid. Canada has its equivalent. Here, we put a picture of a horse on the label. However, perhaps the military has found a new use for it (see the "Pee on your sandwich" thread).

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 12:10 AM

My Big Elephnant.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: fat B****rd
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 03:15 AM

Great documentary about Gil Scott Heron on UK TV last week. Did you know his Dad played for Celtic FC ? (Thread drift and I don't care)

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 05:24 AM

I'm a Queenslander Brucie - we use Fosters (Southern States Drink!) to flush the toilet with - Real Queenslanders drink XXXX (Fourex).

Unfortunately I don't prefer beer - being raised in Bundaberg, I'm actually A 'Bundaberg Rum Guy'...

Robin

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Leadfingers
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 07:09 AM

Which is my opportunity to jump on my high horse about people joining Mudcat and NOT putting a profile up . If you are shy , perhaps the lack of a piccy might be excused , but basic info like what continent you are on and what instruments you play and what sort of songs you sing might just save a bit of confusion . Even what SEX you are might help , especially if you come into Mudchat under an androgenous name .

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 08:05 AM

With you on that LF - I have a basic Mudcat profile ... :-) and no comments about my beard.... ;-) anything to help me with sex gratefully accepted........

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Once Famous
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 11:17 AM

John From Dull

I assure you I am but one poster here. That is why I signed on here. It is much more fun and gratifying to do it this way, as opposed to the cowardly way you suggest. I find this a truly no balls approach.

did you ever consider that the literacy and most certainly the percent of spelling errors on this forum would improve if you were to take a hike? Or at least a big healthy dump?

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Peace
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 11:17 AM

I now have about three comments and I am fighting a losing battle biting my tongue, so I am going to go to another thread.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Peace
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 11:21 AM

OK, I lost the battle.

A certain guy on the 'cat knows where to get goats.
The same guy knows where to get blow-up dolls.
Are you a rhythm guitarist?

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: GUEST,weerover
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 12:51 PM

I find this forum excellent for finding new songs and tunes. I have posted several where I thought they were of interest, or where someone requested them. I have also been the beneficiary of other members who took time and trouble to share information.

If I wish to identify myself to particular members where I think we may have common interest, I will do so (and I have done). I believe all should be free to do so or not, as they choose.

wr.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 12:59 PM

Just what exactly are you driving at, brucie? :-)

I am anticipating a truly grand bitchslapping session between Martin Gibson and jOhn from Hull now that the first couple of verbal stones have been cast. With any luck it will still be going on weeks from now. And these are two guys who have both in their own fashion given me a whole lot of good laughs on the Mudcat. Worthy antagonists, to be sure. Man, I oughta get a concession and sell popcorn or something.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 02:52 PM

Trust me, I know GS and he is NOT Martin Gibson! If you knew him, you would realise what a gormless idea that is.

Leadfingers - GS is a guy, a very BIG guy. :0)

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: GUEST,Hourly Sun
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 03:21 PM

It's more than a rumour: Martin Gibson and jOhn from Hull are the same person.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Once Famous
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 04:54 PM

I've never even been to England.

why would I want to go to a place where the French fries are crap?

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 05:13 PM

"Chips" over here Martin "Chips"..using the words "French fries" is "NIGH" on lunacy and please don't claim to have knowledge of British food even if it is hearsay!!. The chips served over here are second to none. Be Blessed

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 06:42 PM

You mean they're worse than no chips at all?

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 06:46 PM

No! LH. I mean they are "First" as you well know. Love your sense of humour. Be Blessed.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 06:48 PM

Heh! You be blessed too, GS.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: GUEST,sorefingers
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 06:57 PM

j0hn is entertaining, grammar nazis are dry boring old farts...

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 07:16 PM

British style 'chips' are big chunky things - one name used in Aussieland is 'Steak chips'. 'French fries' - as the Yanks promote them, are what we Aussies call 'Shoestring chips'.

Interestingly enough, the smaller chunks of potato have a larger surface area, and absorb more of the cooking oil/fat - thus are probably prone to being more unhealthy.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Blackcatter
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 07:20 PM

Yes because we know that a potato which has alomst no nutritional value, deep fried in oil and drenched in salt CAN be good for you.

The problem with obesity is that it doesn't kill stupid people quickly enough.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 07:27 PM

Terminal stupidity seldom works fast enough either.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Blackcatter
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 12:13 AM

Yep.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 02:44 AM

Terminal Stupidity can kill lots of others quickly though - I'm not saying any more - I'm Bushed....

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Nerd
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 12:41 PM

Blackcatter,

you're wrong in so many ways. First, you seem to have a chip on your shoulder (pun intended) about obesity, which I think is unwarranted. A lot of obese people are genetically predisposed to obesity, and you're being very insensitive. How would you like to be told that the problem with YOUR congenital illness was it didn't kill stupid people fast enough?

Beyond that, the potato is extremely nutritious. You can live on almost nothing but potatoes. This is why Irish people were able to become so dependent on it that a loss of that one crop killed millions of people.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 01:36 PM

Of course potatoes have nearly no nutritional value. That's why it's important to add lots of butter, salt, pepper and sour cream to them, right?

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Little Hawk
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 02:48 PM

They work very well in spud guns.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: GUEST,Blackcatter
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 02:58 PM

I'm not talking about genetic obesity - I'm talking about all those stupid fat people who each crap all day long such as bad, un-healthy fast food and snack food and wash it all down with diet coke.

My best friend was obese for 6 years while it took doctors to figure out she had Cushing's Syndrome caused by a growth on her adrenal gland. As soon as the growth was removed, she began losing weight and got back down to her normal size. People like that may need some medical help, but it's not their fault and more than my poor eyesight is mine.

It's the fat, lazy junk-food people I don't like.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Ebbie
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 03:09 PM

And are you sure you can always tell the difference?

Your attitude, Blackcatter, reminds me of once when I was having a hard time of it with a meniscus and hailed a city bus about 5 blocks from its terminal, a ride which would get me five blocks closer to my destination. The driver was surly when I got on- and then changed his face when I dropped in the normal fare. He mumbled something about he thought I was just trying to catch a ride, i.e. too lazy to walk.

I've always wished I had had a quick comeback, but I hope that from then on he was a little more cautious in his judgments.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Blackcatter
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 05:11 PM

Ebbie - I'm not sure I get your point. I don't go around being surly to people who are fat. I treat everyone equally regardless or anything. So it doesn't matter if I can't tell the difference.

People in the country, for the most part, chose the type of food they eat and how much they eat. Sure you can blame advertising and even the fact that some food places like McDonalds probably lie about how bad their stuff is, but it's still "caveat emptor."

I saw a recent news article on TV (don't remember the show, sorry) about how difficult it is to get good, healthy food to eat in the poorer ares of cities. Supposedly there are few grocery stores easily reachable yet there are tons of fast food joints. I can sympathize, but my life doesn't make it easy to get good food either. I use a bike and the bus to get around and it is 3 miles to the closest grocery store. But I grow my own vegetables and make the trip to the grocery store to get good stuff. I haven't eaten in a fast food joint other than Subway in probably 10 years.

If people eat too much stuff and eat mostly bad stuff that's their flippin' fault. Yet their health problems end up costing all the rest of us millions of dollars in increased health insurance costs and taxes (for those who are uninsured). How do you like the fact that you pay money every year to cover these expenses that could be prevented if people just had more self-control?

I'm not going to apologize for those statements. There's enough legitimate health problems in the world without people hurting themselves and them blaming others.

And once again, this has nothing to do with those people who have true medical reasons for being obese.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: JennyO
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 11:47 PM

There are plenty of people who eat lots of junk food and never put on weight. I have met some of them, and I was married to one - two years younger than me, skinny as a rake and would only eat food that had plenty of fat or sugar, despite my efforts to cook nice meals for him. He also smoked like a chimney. He is still skinny, but has had several heart attacks, a triple bypass, and several mini-strokes. After the triple bypass he finally gave up smoking.

On the other hand, I am overweight - all my family was, and lived into their 80's and 90's - and I have never had a serious illness at the age of 58. I would like to be fitter, but basically I am healthy.

If you were to see him or me on the street, you would think that he was the smart slim healthy one and I was the fat lazy unhealthy one, but you would be wrong. So maybe when you are making your judgments, you should remember that things are not always what they seem.

Jenny

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Ebbie
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 04:03 AM

Blackcatter, I'm not trying to pick a fight, truly. My point is simply in response to your saying that you don't have anything against "genetically obese" people but "It's the fat, lazy junk-food people I don't like." My question was are you sure you can always tell the difference. There may be times when you think you're in the presence of one of those fat, lazy junk-food people when it is not. As JennyO pointed out, things are rarely as simple as they seem.

And just like my bus driver, it is not easy to keep one's judgments to oneself.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 06:13 AM

My name is Johnny. I'm a fat person. I eat too much, and I like unhealthy food. I'm 5' 7" tall and 17 stone. In the 41 years of my working life I've taken 10 days off work through sickness, five of them in one go when I had Flu - everyone else in my office who caught it took between 10 and 15 days off, I took 5). I reckon that's a good score - many of my skinny colleagues take as many days off in one year as I've taken in my entire working life. Apart from five months when I was unemployed because I was made redundant, I've worked continuously for those 41 years and paid my taxes and NICs. I've also been a semi-pro musician for all that time and paid my taxes from those earnings. On top of my full-time job, I was a Youth-Worker for twelve years, giving up three evenings a week plus numerous weekends to work with disadvantaged kids, helping them through the crap that life had dealt them, giving them a view of a better way and, hopefully, giving them the benefit of my life-experience to help them with theirs. I've had two kids of my own who are now in their twenties and making their way in the world.

My name is Johnny. I'm a fat person. I eat too much, and I like unhealthy food. I'm 5' 7" tall and 17 stone. And because of this, Blackcatter believes I'm a worthless person, a figure to be hated. Blackcatter, you're a total prick.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 06:30 AM

Strollin' Johnny. John, in recent years I have met some first class people..and put you in that category. I care not for your size or your background or how you have fared at work or whether you have paid your taxes etc etc. I enjoy your company, your humour and your overall persona..I also enjoy greatly your musical talent. What more can I say. Anyone who puts a downer on you for your size could not know you the person. Be Blessed.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Blackcatter
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 11:51 AM

Whatever.

I clearly stated that I don't go around making judgements about whether a person is someone I would dislike if I got to know them or not. This has nothing to do with that so you are all missing my point. When meeting people I treat them equally, as if they might be my next close friend. I don't care what they've got going inside. They could be a mass murderer for all I know, or one of the nicest persons on Earth. It doesn't matter to me, I treat them equally.

If you are a person who has health problems because you engage in a voluntary activity, whether it's unsafe driving, smoking tobacco, eating bad food, whatever, and because of that either my insurance rates or the part of my taxes that goes to social security/medicaid are increased, I dislike you. Because you have CHOSEN to not take care of yourself, it is costing me money, just like unsafe drivers endanger my life.

If you don't like that, fine. I don't live my life to make sure to get approval from people.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 12:46 PM

Hating is bad for your health. People who suffer poor health because they are bitter and angry push up health costs, too. We all have our stupid failings. Me included (in case you're wondering.) Over-eating and smoking don't happen to be my weaknesses. Or temptations.
I don't take any pride on resisting something that isn't a temptation.

Jerry (appropriate weight and BLESSED with good health that I take no credit for.)

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 01:08 PM

You are Blessed Jerry.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 02:55 PM

Georgiansilver said

Someone under the guise of "GUEST" is trying to start a rumour that I am in fact Martin Gibson.

Your only mistake here is paying attention to the negative post of someone under the guise of GUEST. When someone wants to communicate, they identify themselves. When they want to snipe the don't. Why give attention to someone who is only posting to find fault?

I enjoy your posts and your positive attitude. Keep up the good work.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 03:59 PM

Blackcatter - I quote your exact words - "The problem with obesity is that it doesn't kill stupid people quickly enough", and "It's the fat, lazy junk-food people I don't like".

I'm obese, but I'd hoped you'd realised from my post that I'm neither unhealthy nor lazy. I work on average 55 hours per week. I pay for private health-care rather than relying on state care. I'm an accountant and well educated. I don't smoke, and drink very moderately - maybe three or four beers a week. I've never used illegal drugs, not even cannabis. I live within the law, my only brush with the law was a speeding ticket for doing 47 in a 40 limit whilst following an off-duty police officer. I loved my (sadly deceased) mother and father. I love my kids. I love my wife and am faithful to her. I make monthly donations direct from my salary to four charities. I played soccer until I was in my early thirties, I was a competitive rower until I was 40 and I played league squash in three leagues until my late 40's. I cycle. I go hill-walking, maybe covering 12 miles and 1,000 feet of ascent in a five-hour outing (not too many mountains in Lincolnshire). My resting pulse is, according to my physician, as it should be for a person of my age (57).

I told you in my first post the number of days I've been sick in the past 41 years. How many days have you been sick in that period?

I'm overweight. You're an intolerant prick. I know which one I'd rather be.

And I don't need your approval either.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 04:18 PM

Given the choice, I'd take overweight, any day, Johnny.

Jerry

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 04:33 PM

Blackcatter, I guess we can't blame you for disliking those people who chose to drive up your health costs because of their unhealthy habits. I'm glad to know that you are so without fault that you feel free to make such a judgement. You make no unhealthy choices? None at all? Please tell us your secrets of success so that we may bask in the enlightenment.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 04:33 PM

Thanks Jerry, I appreciate your fairness and tolerance.

Sorry to everyone (other than Blackcatter of course) for getting on my high horse there. I'm intelligent enough to know that being overweight isn't good for me, but I strongly resent someone who's never met me making a public statement that, because I'm overweight, I'm stupid and lazy and, even worse, using that one fact as a reason to hate me for God's sake! Isn't there already enough hate in the world without this kind of bigoted horse shit?

J :0)

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 04:46 PM

JTS - eloquently put. I wish I'd written that. Unfortunately I allowed myself the luxury of permitting the Red Mist to come down. :0)

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 04:52 PM

And of course my ire was on behalf of not only myself, but all stupid fat lazy bastards the world over.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 05:05 PM

Got nothing to do with fairness or tolerance, Johnny. I'd hate to thank that we need to be "Tolerant" of folks carrying a stone or two too many. I've carried a stone or two too many myself, in my day. I was forced to put them down, for health reasons, or I'd probably still be lugging them around. I haven't noticed that I'm any better as a person, though.

Jerry

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 05:09 PM

You seem to be a good person to me Jerry, I wish you all the best.
John :0)

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Blackcatter
Date: 25 Jul 04 - 01:41 AM

"The problem with obesity is that it doesn't kill stupid people quickly enough", and "It's the fat, lazy junk-food people I don't like".


I still stand by both these remarks.

The first: let me clarify, if you have a medical condition that is casuing you to be over-weight, my heart goes out to you for that illness or condition. If you read the post where I mention my best friend you'll realize I understand that. If your medical problems stem from just the fact that you eat too much and don't get enough exercize then you are not only hurting yourself, you are potentially hurting others. If you don't understand that, I'm sorry. There are any number of health studies that show just how dangerous it is to be over-weight and inactive. I tend to dislike people who take their personal well-being so lightly. I've got friends ho are working through major and minor health problems that are beyond their direct control. I'd rather spend my time with them, helping them get better. I said "stupid people" simply because people who take their personal well-being so lightly are going ignoring the basic instinct to survive, and that is just plain stupid.

The second: I've not said that anyone on this list is fat, lazy (or stupid). If you take my statements as personal attacks, that's your karma, not mine. I have said that I do not judge people upon appearance. And frankly, I don't judge people all that often. I believe that there are people out there who are fat merely because they eat too much and don't exercise. Medical science backs me up.    I don't personally know any of them, as far as I know, but just because I don't know any doesn't mean they don't exist. If you cannot admit there are fat lazy stupid people out there, then I believe you have blinders on.

I have no plans to defend how healthy I am. I am not taking the stand that I am better than anyone else on this list. I am healthier than many obese people, but there may be others who are healthier that I.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Jul 04 - 02:43 AM

Well, blackcatter, do you drive? If so, you know, you are taking a risk that you will crash and die, and then not only will our tax money go to pay the ambulance, but our insurance premiums will go up.

Can't you see that you're just being a flaming asshole when you say you think people should die faster?

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Blackcatter
Date: 25 Jul 04 - 02:52 AM

Some guts posting as a GUEST.

And who's attacking whom?


By the way - I ride a bike, and guess what, I hate stupid people who don't pay attention to the rules of the road and put my and everyone elses life in danger.

You gonna take that personally too?

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Jul 04 - 03:02 AM

Sorry, BC, but you gotta admit you endanger yourself by riding a bike on the road. And that could conceivably cost society money. So you're a goddamn hypocrite.

BTW, I don't take any of it personally cos I ain't obese. I just call 'em like I see 'em, which is:

You're an asshole.

By the way, some guts posting as blackcatter, a pseudonym as anonymous as GUEST.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Blackcatter
Date: 25 Jul 04 - 03:09 AM

Yep, but you're still the one who has gone to the gutter with a personal attack.

Pity.


Read the hundreds of posts I've posted here since 1999 (early ones are under Blackcat, or Blackcat1). I stand by what I say and through my posts you'll get an idea of who I am, where I live, how I live, and the rest.

Next time you're in Orlando, take one of my tours. I'll let you take it for free, and I'll even treat you like a nice person regardless of whether you deserve to be or not.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Jul 04 - 03:54 AM

No, YOU were the one who attacked when you said people should DIE because you disapprove of their eating habits. It's not personal, of course, because you claim you don't know any of these people.

Sort of like the bigot who says all black folks should die because I don't approve of their work ethic. But it's not a PERSONAL attack, so that makes it okay.

I'll go on tour with you as eagerly as I'd let a starved gibbon feast on my bollocks. (And in case you don't get it, that's not very eagerly, BC)

By the way, I take your "Yep" to be an acknowledgement that you are indeed an asshole.   Good that we agree on SOMETHING.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Ron Davies
Date: 25 Jul 04 - 01:11 PM

This is amazing--now all we need is a word from "Martin Gibson". Come on, " Martin", don't you have something pithy --(there's no "s" in that word, Martin)-- to say?

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Once Famous
Date: 25 Jul 04 - 01:26 PM

Guest, you endanger yourself everytime you successfully give yourself a blowjob.

Guest, you are obviously really fat, which is why it is amazing you CAN give yourself a blow job. BlackCatter may be just a name, but Guest just makes you a worthless cowardly "it."

You smell rank, Guest. Real bad body odor. Real bad.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Ron Davies
Date: 25 Jul 04 - 02:12 PM

Ah, Martin has arisen. Gee, Martin, I was hoping for something different. Is "gutter" really the only language you speak?

But after all, it is at least partly your thread--it even says so in the title.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Once Famous
Date: 25 Jul 04 - 05:45 PM

No, gutter is not all I speak.

Just when so inclined to do so. Or to give some a cheap thrill, here.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Blackcatter
Date: 25 Jul 04 - 05:47 PM

I like a cheap thrill.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Once Famous
Date: 25 Jul 04 - 05:52 PM

Picture Queen Elizabeth naked bending over.

That will be ten cents, please.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Blackcatter
Date: 25 Jul 04 - 06:17 PM

Here's a quarter. Keep the change.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Peace
Date: 25 Jul 04 - 06:57 PM

Queen Elizabeth I or Queen Elizabeth II?

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Blackcatter
Date: 25 Jul 04 - 08:15 PM

Maybe it's a twofer

What's wrong Brucie, swearing off sheep?

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Peace
Date: 25 Jul 04 - 08:27 PM

Sheep, NEVER. Goats only. Do you think me a commoner? A village ne'er-do-well? A tartuffle? No sirrah, goats only. But for shear (little pun there) ecstacsy, a melon at room temperature.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Blackcatter
Date: 25 Jul 04 - 09:08 PM

In what hole do you put the melon?

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 01:59 AM

Wherever it fits....

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Peace
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 02:15 AM

LOL

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: jacqui.c
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 03:47 AM

Brucie - how do you get Marty to stay still long enough?

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 03:56 AM

jacqui.c..... Please give Brucie credit for his policy of personal non-pollution. Be Blessed.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: jacqui.c
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 04:11 AM

GS - I do, I'm just in awe at his abilities!

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 04:47 AM

if youve never been here, you do you know the chips are crap?
[there not anyway, so just shut up].

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Blackcatter
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 11:25 AM

I've been to the UK

The chips ain't crap, except in McDonalds.

What was really nice were the hot dogs in the little stand right on the Scottish border. They were about 3 inches long so they put 2 i each bun. Very nice and I'm sure the sheeps hanging about appreciated that they were beef/pork.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Bagpuss
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 11:27 AM

Fatter chips might have less fat in them than skinny fries, but if you have crinkle cut chips, it makes up for that!

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 11:44 AM

Oh, this is MG who is actually PROUD that he hides his identity with a fake name, calling someone else a worthless cowardly "it." Be fucked, my good man. And speaking of self-fellatio, I'm surprised you can say anything with your dick in your mouth. Blackcatter may be an asshole, but you're the turd.

Oh and I'm not fat, thank you very much, and I'm using very good deodorant. Sniff....aaaaahhhhh!

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: GUEST,Blackcatter
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 04:38 PM

There goes GUEST again, sniffing her crotch. How many sticks of deoderant to you "gently" insert?

Neithe Martin or I or most of the numerous long-time member/posters here at Mudcat are hardly hiding. Everyone else knows us pretty well and most of us have met with fellow 'Catters several times face to face. I myself have take two on walking tour of Orlando while they were vacationing and have met others at music festivals.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Peace
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 04:54 PM

Martin is my friend. So too are Blackcatter and Georgiansilver. I have had tiffs with lotsa people. However, they all know it's wise to be friendly with me because I know more about goats than anyone on the 'cat. Even Scottish people. Someday, they may need my advice, and they would be angry with themselves if they couldn't call upon me to share my expertise. So, let's all be nice. I ain't gonna tell you again. In fact, I am warning all of you: settle down or the goat gets it! Speaking of which . . . later. Duty calls.




I'll be right there, Esmerelda.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Don Firth
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 05:03 PM

Goat. Esmerelda.

Brucie, do I detect a literary reference?

Don Firth

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Blackcatter
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 05:44 PM

Cooking a goat for me would be nice. Gonna marinate it with some of Mudcat's Own Jerk Sauce?

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 07:37 PM

Brings new meaning to the expression "getting my goat". Made me feel quite sheepish. Baaaaa Blessed.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Once Famous
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 10:41 PM

I love how I brought the best out in the Guest!

You need very good deodorant, bitch, your box is so rancid and diseased with gonnhrea, syphillis, and the gizzum of a rhinoceros who mounted you oh so easily.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 11:06 PM

Well Done GS! And some have been trying to suggest that you do not have a sense of humour...

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: GUEST,mmmmuwwwaaaaaaaa!
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 11:22 PM

Martin Gibson my ass! Lepus Rex lives on! You may have fooled the rest of these folks, Will, but you haven't fooled me!

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Little Hawk
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 11:38 PM

Either that...or Howard Stern is moonlighting on Mudcat!

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Blackcatter
Date: 27 Jul 04 - 12:20 AM

Gee,

Isn't anyone questioning Brucie's choice of friends?

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: jacqui.c
Date: 27 Jul 04 - 02:02 AM

Having read Brucie's various posts - no. This is a man who honours Bill Shatner for heaven's sake!

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 27 Jul 04 - 04:25 AM

Brucie, nice to be referred to as friend and see you in the same way, in spite of our differences on threads....However. I will not question your choice of other friends as I believe you are capable of choosing for yourself. Be Blessed.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Peace
Date: 27 Jul 04 - 09:12 PM

Hey, the goat was a gift from Little Hawk. How do you refuse a gift without insulting your friend?

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Once Famous
Date: 27 Jul 04 - 10:01 PM

Who or what is a Lepus Rex? Is that some kind of two way dildo?

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 28 Jul 04 - 12:41 PM

I think brucie's choice of Esmeralda and William Shatner speaks very well of him.

I do question LH's motives for most likely introducing him to them both.

And brucie, goat yoghurt is the BEST! Just speak in low sexy tones and there is sure to be a response...


...from Bill that is.

;-D

..xx..e

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: saulgoldie
Date: 28 Jul 04 - 01:22 PM

Come to think of it, it is altogether possible that GS and MG ARE one in the same. What an excellent scam! Impressive how "he" manages to fight with himself and make it look like two separate people.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: harpgirl
Date: 28 Jul 04 - 01:53 PM

Mick, I don't know about the rest of these folks and I personally don't care about GS's Be Blessed sign off, but my annoynace with him began here:

I am not the type to knock other peoples beliefs but I have to say that:- I believe myself to be a true CHRISTian, which is exactly what it implies. A follower of Christ and His teachings. We follow Jesus'Commandments which may be found in chapter 5 of Matthew and although refreshed from the Old Testament are not the OT ten! also Matthew 23-37-40 tells us the Two great Commandments. Jesus also gives HIS NEW Commandment to us, which covers everything we need to practice in John 15-12. Being a CHRISTian means unswervingly following the words of Jesus. He did not tell us to celebrate the Passover but he did tell us to take bread and wine in remembrance of Him.. an instruction given at the Last supper..which hopefully...if you are Christian..you do! He did not tell us to keep the Sabbath which someone kindly pointed out, has not moved from Saturday to Sunday..merely been confused with it. From time immemorial there have been two factions on earth...Good which is given by God and bad which comes from the devil....I was in the grip of the latter until 1991 when I smoked heavy, drank heavy, womanised, fought often and was generally a pretty awful sort of guy. Since then my life has changed beyond regognition...I fall short of the Glory of God...as the Bible puts it... but I believe and you have to believe before you can begin your understanding..not the other way round. I say to all of you, keep seeking the truth..yes I said the truth..because satan will lead you up the garden path and back again to stop you finding your salvation in Jesus Christ.
I was lost but now I'm found...was blind but now I see....My suggestion to you is..get a Bible with Jesus words in red..or highlighted...read them and then make your mind up....I know that some of you(just by the things you have written already) are not ready to find Jesus...that's up to you..but I won't knock your belief so please don't knock mine.
My website should you wish to visit to view what has happened to me to change me so drastically is http://groups.msn.com/allforourlordjesus Please check out my Testimony and my healing.


This is what I object to and I think many of us are responding to his prosletyzing and not his blessing.
harp

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 28 Jul 04 - 02:14 PM

When I wrote that, I was somewhat green to the ways of mudcat and quickly realised I had made a mistake but what has it to do with this thread or any other thread I have submitted or submitted to. Am I to be quoted this each time I say something someone takes exception to?
It seems I am the subject of attack as flavour of the week or month or whatever. O.K so I'm not perfect. I make mistakes.
Best wishes anyway.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: GUEST,Blackcatter
Date: 28 Jul 04 - 03:27 PM

But that's the way it works on most other discussion boards I've been to. People always hold your quotes up for tortuous scrutiny. It may be unfortunate, and certainly I've been attacked, but I hold to the position that I stand by all my statements around here as long as I didn't quote facts that are incorrect.

I don't take posting here lightly (especially in the music section since there people are often looking for real info and advice).

---------- ---------------- ------------- -----------

Mudcat is like a pubilc pool.

Some of us jump in immediately; others wade in slowly to take measure of the waters.

Some of us spend all our time in the deep end, getting into every discussion and even diving down to the bottom of subjects; others either stay in the shallow end, mostly connecting with the occasional waves from someone's cannonball; while others stay in the adjacent hottub that is the music section.

Some repeatedly climb out of the pool, only to dive right back in whne the whim hits them; others perfer to stay in the water all day long.

Some are purposeful and try to exercise their minds by doing laps and water aerobic-like reserarch and discussion; while others float around and let what happens happen.

And while the rest of us usually chose to ignore it, some pee in the pool.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Blackcatter
Date: 28 Jul 04 - 09:29 PM

Refresh ('cause I like what I said).

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Peace
Date: 28 Jul 04 - 09:32 PM

Yeah, me too!

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Raptor
Date: 28 Jul 04 - 10:18 PM

I just read this for the first time!

I can't believe the flack Blackcatter took for the fat statement!




I think "Little Hawk" and Bill Shatner are the same Person!

Chew on that!

Raptor

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 28 Jul 04 - 11:48 PM

Quoute-[Blackcatter] "refresh"

blackcatter=there was loads of trubble making in this thread, i wonder waht you refreshed it for?

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Blackcatter
Date: 29 Jul 04 - 01:11 AM

Actually jOhn, I forgot about that. It was the most recent statement about comparing Mudcat to a community pool that I was referring to.

But hey, I don't shy away from controversy like some.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Nerd
Date: 29 Jul 04 - 02:12 AM

Well, Raptor, as you can see from my relatively mild post on the matter, I also thought Blackcatter was out of line with the fat comment. I mean, wishing other people would die faster? How gauche!

But then in slamming GUEST, Martin brought up the "gizzum of a rhinoceros" (I mean "brought it up" in the sense of "introduced it into the conversation," not "regurgitated it") and I was too damn amused to pursue it (I mean, "pursue the fat comment," not "pursue the Gizzum")!

But now that I think of it, shame on you, blackcatter! etc, etc!

Also, did anyone else think it was odd that Martin first treated GUEST as a man and then as a woman? It made me wonder if there was more than one GUEST, and if Martin somehow KNEW who they were.

Come clean, Martin: was it a set up with some of your pals?

Naah, I guess he wouldn't bother; there's enough shit to be stirred up without making shit up.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 29 Jul 04 - 05:35 AM

I loved your pool allusion, Blackcatter, so I'm glad you refreshed.


(William Shatner still chanelling through Ellenpoly and here to assure you I am NOT Little Hawk, though I have been thinking of getting a little more intimate with the goat he gave brucie if I can find her.)

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Blackcatter
Date: 29 Jul 04 - 12:46 PM

Yes, shame on me.





























Ha!

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Little Hawk
Date: 31 Jul 04 - 12:16 PM

Me? I'm Bill Shatner? Well, no. But it would be incredibly cool if I was. Hmmm. What would be cooler, to be Dylan or to be Shatner? Hmmm. This is tough. Who do I pity more, people who don't get Dylan or people who don't get Shatner? That's a tough one too. Hmmm.

Well, I will have to go off for a bit and think about all this and get back to you later.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Nerd
Date: 31 Jul 04 - 03:12 PM

LH,

you could be Shatner singing Dylan! Now THAT would be cool!

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Little Hawk
Date: 31 Jul 04 - 03:41 PM

Hey, yeah! Totally cool. And I wouldn't even have to actually sing. :-) Just emote grandly.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 01 Aug 04 - 01:01 AM

Looks like Marty went mad and somebody shot him...

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 01 Aug 04 - 10:43 AM

Poor Martin. The challenges for literal composition on "Feuds that are not feuds" and "Mudcat bad writing" were too much for him and I think he must have died of fright.
Rest in Peace Martin.....or you could always come back as a guest and give people more grief.
Best wishes anyway.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Once Famous
Date: 01 Aug 04 - 10:55 AM

See my answer on the Mudcat Feuds thread.

Glad to see GS that you ditched the Be Blessed shit. Now all of your time is spent focusing on your whims for me. Believe me when I say I don't dwell on you for Don Filth.

Alive and well, and leaving on vacation, while you pick your butt and post nonsense,

Mudcat's very own Martin Gibson

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 01 Aug 04 - 11:09 AM

Martin Gibson...Ever the wimp and ever the tryer. Sad for you to be such a failure . One day you may grow up and as a big boy answer challenges instead of shying away. Difference between a boy and a man Martin. Meet the challenges you wimp!

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: harpgirl
Date: 01 Aug 04 - 12:02 PM

Oh good, a week's vacation from our resident psychopath...whose clever new guise has fooled some of us!

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 01 Aug 04 - 12:34 PM

If Martin has truly gone on holiday then please keep the two threads mentioned refreshed.."Feuds that are not feuds"...and "Mudcat bad writing contest" for him to answer when he returns. I personally believe he is avoiding them.
Best wishes.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 01 Aug 04 - 12:55 PM

harpgirl. I hope you do not think that Georgiansilver and Martin Gibson are one and the same....He lives in the US..Chicago I believe and that can be seen on his threads..I live in Gainsborough, UK where I am a singer in Folk Club...and others in the area..not a good singer I have to add but O.K. I will be at Barton Club on Tuesday night(see music threads) where I hope to meet ElTed, Sir jOhn from Hull and a few others from Hull...and Oaklet already knows me. In Gainsborough I am known by a few catters...Travelling Audience, Strollin' johnny and Sooz.
Won't take much for you to check things out I'm sure. If you don't think it is me then who do you think it is?...his alter-ego I mean.
Best wishes, Mike.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 01 Aug 04 - 12:58 PM

As I have said on other threads, with me, what you see is what you get..Best wishes.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: el ted
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 05:16 AM

Six Bells in Barrow tomorrow, Be there or be square!

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 05:59 AM

No prob el ted....Travelling Audience, myself and possibly a friend Stuart(not a Catter) will be there. Best wishes.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: el ted
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 06:03 AM

One hopes one doesn't get lost once over the bridge. All the bloody towns in that area of linkunshur swamp all seem to begin with B! Brigg, Barrow, Barton, Bunthorpe! Most confusing!
Be Sting.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 06:37 AM

It's just going to take Marty a week to wash out his pants since teh literary challenges given him...

Robin

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Sttaw Legend
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 06:37 AM

Be Blessed

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 07:50 AM

Be At Barton

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Sttaw Legend
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 10:21 AM

Would love to but I Be At'ull sorting a gigoramma

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: el ted
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 11:10 AM

Hang on, hang on, Are we in bloody Barton or Barrow tomorrow? one is getting confused here.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Blackcatter
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 11:14 AM

GS, glad to see you haven't stopped posting below the bar.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 11:23 AM

... just stay sober.... :-)

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 12:02 PM

Thanks Blackcatter. I was so encouraged by other Catters I could not stop. Best wishes.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 12:38 PM

Barrow.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 07:58 PM

Bibbity bobbity boo?

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Aug 04 - 10:35 AM

I've heard the rumour too. Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson have been posting as one on another music board. It's a big laugh over there.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 03 Aug 04 - 10:39 AM

Always a guest eh?? Your brain about matches your comment...There is no truth in it.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 03 Aug 04 - 11:11 PM

So GUEST, if you don't tell which board now, I call you a liar.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Blackcatter
Date: 04 Aug 04 - 02:49 PM

Why do y'all respond to things like that?

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 04 Aug 04 - 08:32 PM

Why do you ask silly obvious questions? - oh sorry, that should have been in the TOMSQT!

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: el ted
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 10:41 AM

Yo georgiansilver and strollin johnny,
                                     Good to meet you lads at Barrow folk club on tuesday. Come out of this shit thread now, it is not what mudcat is for, and it is also a waste of computing power!

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Aug 04 - 03:53 PM

Georgiansilver and Martin Gibson have both seemingly gone silent.

Guess they got bored.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Once Famous
Date: 11 Aug 04 - 04:04 PM

Fuck you, Guest.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Blackcatter
Date: 11 Aug 04 - 05:01 PM

Good god.

someone has wakened the Giant.

Where ya been MG?

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Once Famous
Date: 11 Aug 04 - 05:23 PM

Away fro a week on vacation, then digging out of a big hole recovering from being gone.

Nice to be missed. In reviewing most of the postings, it was getting quite dull (as in John from Dull) here.

I'm baaaaaaaaaack.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 03:29 AM

And that's where assholes belong - at the back!

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Once Famous
Date: 13 Aug 04 - 12:17 AM

Guest, do you find your prick by cutting hairs until you find one that bleeds?

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Aug 04 - 12:48 AM

You seem to be an expert on finding your prick that way, Martin. Maybe you are one. You are definitely a male chauvinist too, as you always assume that others are male.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Blackcatter
Date: 13 Aug 04 - 01:25 AM

What the hey - it's safe to assume annoying GUESTS are male - Nearly all mass muderers are male. Nearly all rapists are male. Nearly all dictators are male. GUESTS often times all into one of those categories.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 13 Aug 04 - 07:10 AM

Nearly all rapists are male? Aren't they ALL male? Women don't have the equipment, at least none of the ones I know do! :0)
SJ

PS - definitely not treating rape as a joke. Just can't see how a woman can commit rape.
SJ

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Wolfgang
Date: 13 Aug 04 - 11:44 AM

SJ,

I don't know your law but I know ours. Before a recent change only women could be victims of a rape. Even then a woman could be guilty of rape even without having touched the woman that was victim of a rape.

That's how it goes (it was a trick question for the really good students): A woman let's say armed with a pistol forces another woman and a man that are not married to each other to have intercourse. Let's say she looks very serious when she threatens to shoot them if they don't do what she wants and the two rather have intercourse than risk being shot.

Then the woman was a victim of a rape, the man also was a victim though in our old law that wasn't called rape. The rapist however was the woman with the gun.

The definition of rapist in most European laws is the one who enforces a penetration and not the one who penetrates. In 99,99 % of all cases both the enforcer and the penetrator were (1) male and (2) identical. But in the tiny rest...

Anyway, women have been guilty of raping a woman in the history of German law, but extremely seldom.

Wolfgang

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 14 Aug 04 - 02:16 AM

Thanks for the explanation Wolfgang - just goes to show what a strange lot you Germans are! :0) LOL! Only kidding mate!

I'm amazed how much stuff you can learn from Mudcatters.

SJ :0)

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 14 Aug 04 - 06:24 AM

Technically, a female can, er, well, use an object such as a drink botle on a guy in a forceful manner, and that would be charged as an aggravated assault. What name you want to give it is up to you.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 15 Aug 04 - 02:38 AM

Yep Foolestroupe, I'd already thought about that one. I suppose she could do it to anoter woman too. Not nit-picking here, but the name it's given is determined by the law, not by me or any other individual. :0)

I just queried the assertion that MOST rapes are carried out by men - I may lead a very sheltered existence here in my little backwoods corner of darkest Lincolnshire, but I don't recall EVER hearing of a case like the one Wolfgang described, or of one like the one we're discussing now. I've never heard of a case of rape committed (by whatever means) by a female, so I'd postulate that ALL rapes are carried out by men.

Or maybe I've missed something.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 15 Aug 04 - 02:41 AM

And BTW I'm absolutely not trivialising the appalling nature of the crime.

Subject: RE: Georgiansilver/Martin Gibson
From: GUEST,Judge Dread
Date: 15 Aug 04 - 08:02 AM

Is true rape really possible by a woman? by inserting false items into a person, in UK anyway, this is aggravated indecent assault.
Rape has to have a penis in use. Therefore if a woman rapes a man his penis would have to be erect. If this is so then surely there would have to be some complicity by the male, as if he were in fear, what would really happen?