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Tune Req: Tramps and Hawkers DigiTrad: THE ROSE OF THE SAN JOAQUIN TRAMPS AND HAWKERS Related threads: Tramps and Hawkers (12) Origins: Tramps and Hawkers (165) QUERY Re Tramps & Hawkers tune usage (21) Chord Req: tramps & hawkers, ringer/russell vs tra (10) Tune Req: Dots wanted for Tramps and Hawkers (3) (closed) |
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Subject: Tramps and hawkers From: alison Date: 26 Oct 98 - 05:48 AM Hi Heard a band doing this at the weekend, they said it was by the Battlefield Band. I know the lyrics are in the database ..... as is a tune, but the tune in the database is basically "The homes of Donegal" they did a different more minor tune. Anyone able to help out thanks. Real audio would be great (eh Joe?).... but I'd be happy with midi. Slainte alison |
Subject: RE: Tramps and hawkers From: Barry Finn Date: 26 Oct 98 - 09:18 AM Hi alison, I don't know the tune to "The Homes Of Donegal" but from the looks of what's in the DT it could fit the same as "Tramps & Hawkers" which is the same tune as "Paddy West". Don't know if this helps at all. Barry |
Subject: RE: Tramps and hawkers From: Liam's Brother Date: 26 Oct 98 - 09:23 AM Hi Alison! I've heard this from a hundered singers but never to a different tune than "Paddy West." As a matter of fact, when people speak about "Paddy West," they usually say that it's to the tune of "Come All Ye Tramps and Hawkers." Singers who record a lot could be specifically looking for something different. If the Battlefields were to record "Tramps," it wouldn't surprise me that they would be more likely to do it with a completely different melody, should they be able to find it, because the standard one is so common (e.g. also "Captain Wedderburn's Courtship," "Peter Amberly," etc.). Sorry to answer a question with an anecdote. Hope you find what you are looking for. All the best, Dan |
Subject: RE: Tramps and hawkers From: Art Thieme Date: 26 Oct 98 - 11:24 PM Have always done "Lakes Of Ponchartrain" to this same tune... |
Subject: RE: Tramps and hawkers From: Barry Taylor Date: 27 Oct 98 - 01:26 AM I've done a midi of it (Come All Ye Tramps and Hawkers), available here with lyrics, Alison... http://www3.islandnet.com/~btaylor/scotmidi.htm Darned if I know which melody I used, though. I'll leave it to you folk archivists to pinpoint that. ;-)
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Subject: RE: Tramps and hawkers From: alison Date: 27 Oct 98 - 07:57 AM Hi Barry, where have you been hiding this site.... it's wonderful.... heaps of tunes and songs. Hey Joe .... does this mean I'm perfect now? (**grin**) PS Barry your tune is the same as the others named above.... I know it as "The Homes of Donegal". Slainte alison |
Subject: RE: Tramps and hawkers From: Joe Offer Date: 29 Oct 98 - 12:11 PM Yes, dear, anything you say, dear...A search of the database under "Hawkers" brings up a number of interesting songs. Tom Russell did nice recording of a Jim Ringer song he called "Tramps and Hawkers" on THE ROSE OF THE SAN JOAQUIN CD (we call it "Rose of SJ" in the database). -Joe Offer- |
Subject: RE: Tramps and hawkers From: Jon Bartlett Date: 01 Nov 98 - 04:05 AM "Tramps & Hawkers" must be one of the most popular tunes (along with "Sweet Betsy from Pike") for zipper songs, where you zip out the old words and add your own. Ewan MacColl used it for "England's Motorway", it was used for "The manchester Martyrs" (Fenian song of the 1850's), also "The River Roe" in Joyce; Tommy Armstrong used it for his most famous song "The Durham Lockout" (1892) and there are several BC songs to it, too. |
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