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Lyr Req: All Around the Water Tank? (J Rodgers)

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WAITING FOR A TRAIN


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Subject: All Around the Water Tank
From: Bojangles
Date: 28 Oct 98 - 12:07 AM

Does anyone have the words to this great old Jimmie Rodgers song? It does not seem to be in the database. Thank you very much..in advance. Bo..


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Subject: RE: All Around the Water Tank
From: Gene
Date: 28 Oct 98 - 12:58 AM

Try THE COWPIE!
Waiting for a Train

*GO COWPIE*


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Subject: RE: All Around the Water Tank
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 28 Oct 98 - 04:48 PM

Try Danville Girl for a slightly different version.


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Subject: RE: All Around the Water Tank
From: Bojangles
Date: 30 Oct 98 - 11:09 PM

Here's part of it. Please correct my errors:

All around the water tank waitin'for a train
10,000 miles away from home standin' in the rain
I walked up to te brakeman just to give him a line of talk
He said"if you've got money Ill see that you don't walk
I haven't got a nickel, not a penny can I show
"Get off, get off you railroad bum" and he slammed the boxcar door

He dropped me off in Texas. A state I dearly love
Wide open spaces all around me moon and the stars up above

Can anyone carry on from here?


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Subject: RE: All Around the Water Tank
From: GUEST,vehni
Date: 04 Jun 09 - 11:18 PM

All around the water tank, just a standin' in the rain,
A thousand miles away from home, just a waitin' for a train.
So I walked up to the conductor, just to hand him a line o' talk,
He said, "Boy if you've got money, I'll see that you don't walk".
Well I haven't got a nickel, not a penney can I show,
"Get off, get off, you railroad bum!", and he slammed the boxcar door.

Well, he put me off in Texas, 'tis the state I dearly love,
Wide open spaces around me, and the moon and the stars above.
But I haven't got a nickel, not a penney to my name.
A thousand miles away from home, just a waitin' for a train..


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Subject: Lyr/Chord Add: WAITING FOR A TRAIN (Jimmie Rodgers
From: Amos
Date: 04 Jun 09 - 11:29 PM

WAITING FOR A TRAIN
Words and music by Jimmie Rodgers
1929

F        C7        F        F7
All around the water tank
Bb             Bbm F
Waiting for a train
    Bb                     F             Dm
A thousand miles away from home
G7                   C7
Sleeping in the rain

  F              C7   F
I walked up to a brakeman
F7 Bb                  Bbm F       
To give him a line of talk
      Bb                        F
He says, "If you've got money
    G7         C7          F
I'll see that you don't walk"
             C7    F
I haven't got a nickel
F7      Bb             A7
Not a penny can I show
     Bb                     F
He said get off, you railroad bum
            G7              C7        F
And he slammed the boxcar door
(Yodel)
F   C7   F          C7    F

C7  F         C7   F
He put me off in Texas,
F7  Bb     Bbm  F
A place I surely love,
         Bb                F   
Wide open spaces 'round me,
       G7                     C7
The moon and stars above.
     F      C7          F
Nobody seems to want me
F7 Bb                  Bbm  F
Or lend me a helping hand.
      Bb                      F
I'm on my way from Frisco,
         G7        C7    F
Goin' back to Dixieland.
                C7         F
My pocket book is empty
F7         Bb                      A7
And my heart is filled with pain.
        Bb                      F
I'm a thousand miles away from home,
        G7       C7    F
Just waiting for a train.

(Yodel)


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Subject: RE: All Around the Water Tank
From: katlaughing
Date: 04 Jun 09 - 11:32 PM

Ah, I can just *hear* Art Thieme's wonderful rendition of this.


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Subject: RE: All Around the Water Tank
From: Tyke
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 12:06 AM

All around the Water Tank just waiting for a Train
Ten Thousand miles away from home just sleeping in the rain.
Well I went up to a break man to give him a line of talk.
He said if you've got money, I see that you don't walk.
Well I haven't got a nickel not a penny could I show.
Get off! Get off you railroad Bum! And he slammed the Boxcar door!

Yodel a eee a eee a eee

He put me off in Texas a State I dearly love
Wide open spaces all around me and the moon and stars up above.
Well no one seems to want me or lend me a helping hand.
I'm on my way from Frisco going back to Dixieland
Though my pocket book is empty and my heart is full of pain.
I'm a Thousand miles away from home just waiting for a train.


D G DG Em A DG DG Em A

The Yodel is D A D

OK so you can't Yodel Then ask for volunteers

Or give the entire audience a quick Yodelling lesson.

You) Knock Knock!

Who's there?

You) Little Old lady!






And the Answer is?


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Subject: RE: All Around the Water Tank
From: NOMADMan
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 09:33 AM

Here are the words transcribed from a Jim Reeves single, about 1957. Only slight variations from those already posted. The flip side of this was "Am I Losing You?"

All around a water tank, waitin' for a train
A thousand miles away from home, sleepin' in the rain
I walked up to a brakeman to give him a line of talk
He said, "If you've got money, I'll see that you don't walk."
"I haven't got a nickel; not a penny can I show."
"Get off, get off, you railroad bum;" he slammed the boxcar door

Well, he put me off at Texas, the state I dearly love
The wide open spaces all around me, the moon and stars up above
Nobody seems to want me, or lend me a helping hand
I'm on my way from Frisco, going back to Dixie land
My pocketbook is empty, my heart is full of pain
I'm a thousand miles away from home, waitin' for a train

Regards,
John


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Subject: RE: All Around the Water Tank
From: Art Thieme
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 07:47 PM

Stone County Arkansan, Glenn Ohrlin, used to sing a great and quite different version of this song that he got from his friend and neighbor named Sam Hess. I always preferred it to Jimmie's song. It's in my collection somewhere. I hope I can find it.---Glenn put it on an LP put out by Archie Green and the Folklore Society at the University Of Illinois about 1960 or '61.

Also, there was another different version collected in Iowa from a woman named Mrs Dogle-Manning -- but I can't recall her first name.

We will see...

Art


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Subject: Lyr Add: SAM'S WAITING FOR A TRAIN (from G Ohrlin)
From: NOMADMan
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 11:26 PM

Art,

Thanks for reminding us about the Glenn Ohrlin song.

I have a copy of that LP here. Here are the words to what Glenn calls "Sam's Waiting for a Train."

I was born and raised in Texas, a state that you all know,
I got on that Katy train, so cold I could hardly go,
I rode down to Memphis, and I got off to warm,
Looked out for that Katy train, but the Katy train was gone.

They left me standing on a platform a-waiting for a train,
So cold and hungry I lay down, my heart was filled with pain,
I'm thinking of those good old days, I wish they'd come again,
A thousand miles away from home trying to catch an old freight train.

I went up to a lady and I asked for something to eat,
A little piece of bread and a little piece of meat,
A little piece of punkin pie would soothe my appetite.
I aim to ride that old freight train a thousand miles tonight.

Well, I went up to Kansas, I didn't go to stay,
I fell in love with some Kansas girls and I had to run away,
Goodbye to all you Kansas folks, I'll bid you all adieu,
And when that old freight train runs out I'll see no more of you.

They left me standing on a platform, a-waiting for a train,
So cold and hungry I lay down, my heart was filled with pain,
I'm thinking of those good old days, I wish they'd come again,
A thousand miles away from home, trying to catch an old freight train.

Here are Glenn's comments:

"Suppose a lot of you are familiar with the songs of Jimmie Rodgers, I mean the Jimmie Rodgers that died in 1933. I mean, he's still well-liked, and they still put out albums of his songs. One of my favorites of his was 'Waiting for a Train.' But one of my old neighbors down in the Ozarks - Sam Hess - he's got a ranch down there and a bunch of cattle, and he's past 80 years old, plays the banjo and sings, he knows an older version of the same song. I call it 'Sam's Waiting for a Train.' There ain't no yodeling. I can't yodel anyway."
(tape 12/14/63)

"When you pick up stuff because you enjoy it you generally forget most other considerations about it. But I do remember, in fact, on the song ballet Sam wrote for me I marked it at the time, that Sam learned that song from Levi Morris, the brother of Neal Morris and Jimmie Driftwood's uncle. Jimmie sang it last Friday night at the courthouse and said 'Here's one my dad used to sing.'... Sometimes when Sam sings it, it ends with the words 'I aim to ride that old hog train a thousand miles tonight.' Then he laughs when he says 'hog train.' To date the song - Sam said he hadn't played a banjo for 40 years when he started playing it again this year. Oh yes - Sam calls it 'that old freight train song."
(Letter 5/11/64)

Note - there was a pop singer named Jimmie Rodgers active in the late '50s (Remember "Honeycomb?") That's probably the reason for Ohrlin's comment "I mean the Jimmie Rodgers that died in 1933" to distinguish him from the more current performer of the same name.

Regards,
John


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Subject: RE: All Around the Water Tank
From: Art Thieme
Date: 06 Jun 09 - 12:13 AM

Hey, John---

What a fine job you've done on that vivid old version. Thanks so much. I did just find the song and was planning to put it here but procrastinated. But you done done it--and I appreciate it.

I recorded another song that Glenn had on that grand album --- Jock Coleman's song "The Big Combine" is included on the first LP (now a CD) that I did for Sandy Paton at his Folk Legacy Records. It paints a glorious picture in a nice small frame and it would be perfect for hanging on the wall of a museum. On seeing it, you'd know that you had just been given a precious glimpse into the lives of the harvesting crew on that Big Combine as it was pulled through the wheat by 50 or so horses near the town of Pilot Rock in the state of Oregon. I was glad the Folk Society taped Glenn's concert for them---and then made it available.

All the best,

Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: All Around the Water Tank
From: Jon Bartlett
Date: 06 Jun 09 - 01:45 AM

Here's a version, again earlier than the Rogers set, I found in the Gordon Collection (Gordon 1720) at the Library of Congress:

HOBO SONG

All around the water tank,
Waiting for that train,
All tired out and hungry
From sleeping in the rain;
My heart was filled with sorrow,
My days are filled with pain;
Five thousand miles away from home,
Nobody knew my name.

I stepped up to that brakeman
To hand him a line of talk,
He says, "If you got that money, son,
I'll see that you don't walk."
My pocket book was empty,
Not a penny could I show;
"Get off, get off," that brakeman said,
Arid slammed that box car door.

He put me off at Denver,
Got stuck on a Denver girl,
You know she was all right,
For she wore that Denver curl.
She was pretty as a picture,
She was dressed in the fashion too;
But when that train pulled out, boys,
I bade that girl adieu.

From there I went to Albuquerque,
And I meant to stay a while,
But the bulls they got my number,
And I had to hit th' spile.
I dropped down to El Paso,
But they also knew me there,
The Judge said,"30 days or leave"
And I had to take the air.

I hopped on board a rattler,
And beat it across the state,
They threw me off at Corsicana,
And there I met my fate.
I woke up in the hospital,
I was minus of a leg,
Now that I can roam no more
To live I have to beg.

Terrell McKay San Antonio, TX, Apr 5, 1926

(Learned from men around the oil wells.)

From accompanying correspondence from Gordon to Terrell McKay, 1 June 1926: "…The Hobo Song. – I have fragments of this, a number from negroes, but no version as complete as yours. Thank you! The last line you quote and other lines is some of the scraps I've picked up lead me to think it was often used as a begging song. It must have started with a humble author and then been made over many times. It sounds to me like a genuine "hobo" song."

Verse 3 has elements, as Dick Greenhaus pointed out, of "The Danville Girl". Whether we have here two songs that merged, or two songs that came out of one original, I don't know. I note the the set above includes lines from McClintock's "Great American Bum", though he may well have incorporated (as we know he did with "Hallelujah, I'm a Bum") popular material he didn't himself create. I supsect that most "bum" or "Hobo" songs have this Protean characteristic.

I have to say I like Gordon's set: I wonder if anyone ever recorded it?

Jon Bartlett


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Subject: RE: All Around the Water Tank
From: Art Thieme
Date: 06 Jun 09 - 03:18 PM

Jon,
Whew, talk about a hard as nails view into another time and place. We can't travel in time yet, but with songs like these, we've got the next best thing.

Here is the other version of this good song. It's from Mrs. Thomas Dogel Manning in Iowa--USA. I found it in a book called Folklore Of Iowa --- 1936.

I am in your city, boys, trying to do what's right,
And you need not think, because I am poor, that I am not alright,
My pocketbook is empty, my heart is filled with pain,
I'm a thousand miles away from home trying to bum the train.

Down at the water tank waiting for a train,
Cold and hungry, I lay down--though it is in vain,
Thinking of those good old times---I hope they come again,
I'm a thousand miles away from home trying to bum the train.

I went down to the brakeman and we had a little drink,
Say, if you have any money, sir, you will not have to walk.
No money or no ticket, sir, pity me, I am poor.
Get out, get out, the brakeman said,
And he slammed the boxcar door.

I went down to the restaurant to get a bite to eat,
Got a little piece of bread, and a little bite of meat,
A piece of apple pie to suit my apatite,
I'm going to ride the flying rails a thousand miles tonight.

I stopped off in Denver and got stuck on a Danville girl,I am glad tonight she is out of sight--she wore those Denver curls,
She wore her hair up top of her head in the same old fashion too,
Just as the train came whizzing by, I kissed my love adieu.

Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: All Around the Water Tank
From: maple_leaf_boy
Date: 06 Jun 09 - 04:15 PM

I have the country fake book volume 4, with the tune for this song.
The chords that Amos has are the same chords I use, but I think it's
slightly different in the fake book. I could write the tune in guitar
tab form if you'd like that as well.
If the notes are too high for you to sing in F, i find that the key of
C works well, plus it's easier to play it in C.


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