Subject: RE: BS: Why Canadians dig Shatner as they do. From: GUEST Date: 05 Oct 04 - 09:41 PM Long lonely nights by the lone firelight while the huskeys round in a ring |
Subject: RE: BS: Why Canadians dig Shatner as they do. From: Little Hawk Date: 26 Aug 04 - 01:44 AM ROTFLMAOITH!!! That's Shatner at his finest. Check this out... Who's On First - Trek Style Kirk - Ah... hello Mister Spock. Spock - Good day, Captain. Kirk - Are you an avid baseball fan? Spock - Baseball is a tactical game played on a geometric pattern of 4 sides with a spherical object. The purpose is to knock the 's**t out of' the object amidst loud verbalisations of 'Hurrah' and 'Kock 'em on their a**.' Is this correct? Kirk - Indeed. We are in the process of learning about one of the baseball teams from old Earth. Spock - Oh? I am quite versed with old Earth history... perhaps I may be of assistance. Kirk - That's the idea. Spock - Very well... proceed. Kirk - Alright... Who's on first. Spock - I am unable to determine who is on first without proper information concerning the team and year, sir. Kirk - So? Spock - Perhaps we could start with who the team is, and I can test the accuracy. Kirk - No... Who's on first. Spock - I do not know. Kirk - No... he's third base. Spock - Who is? Kirk - No... he's first base. Spock - Who is? Kirk - Correct. Spock - Who is correct? Kirk - Sometimes. Spock - Who is sometimes? Kirk - No... Who is first baseman. I'm not familiar with Sometimes' identity. Spock - Whose identity? Kirk - No... him I know... he's first baseman. Spock - Who is? Kirk - Right. Spock - Perhaps we can discuss the identity of the second baseman. Kirk - What. Spock - I said the second baseman. Kirk - What. Spock - This is highly illogical. You have no apparent auditory disfunction, sir. Now, as I asked... who is the second baseman? Kirk - No... you didn't ask that, and Who is the first baseman. Spock - I am not familiar with that piece of information, sir. McCoy - Dammit, Spock! You messed up the whole setup there! Spock - Forgive me Doctor... I am not a comedian. McCoy - Obviously. Spock - That much is certain. McCoy - Just get back to the skit. Spock - Very well. Captain... I ask you... politely... who is the second baseman? Kirk - No... Who is the first baseman. What is the second baseman. Spock - That is incorrect, Captain. The second baseman is obviously a sentient being, and therefore should be referred to as who, and not what. 'Who is the second baseman,' not 'what is the second baseman.' Kirk - Wrong, Spock. Who is the first baseman, and What is the second baseman. Spock - That statement is most illogical. Kirk - Okay... wait a minute. We'll get Scotty... he's Scottish.. he must love baseball. Oh Mister Scott... Scott - Aye, Cap'n? Kirk - Who is the first baseman of the team we were talking about. Scott - Aye, Cap'n. It ain't never been any other way! Kirk - You see, Spock? Spock - Yes... Mister Scott seems to know the material well. Alright, Mister Scott... who is the second baseman? Scott - Ach! No, Mister Spock! That be What you're talking about! Spock - I know that be what... er... is what I'm talking about. I am very intelligent, and rarely lose track of what I am talking about. Scott - Ach! Don't bring track inta this! That be a bloomin' field event! Spock - What has this got to do with field events? Scott - Ach! No! What's the second baseman! Spock - Again, I note that a person should be referred to as 'who' and not 'what' Mister Scott. Scott - Only if he's tha first baseman, Mister Spock! Spock - What you are saying is most illogical. Scott - Ach! No! What's a real bright fella! Spock - Who is a 'real bright fella' Mister Scott? Scott - No! Who... now he's a real dope, sir! Spock - Who is? Scott - Right! Spock - You are relieved, Mister Scott. Scott - Aye, sir. Spock - Sir... this is most illogical, and I am no longer interested in learning who the second baseman is. I am also growing impatient. Kirk - No... Who's the first baseman. Spock - Very well sir. Good day, gentlemen, or whoever you are. [Spock leaves.] Kirk - Whoever! I forgot about him! Wait... I don't remember a Whoever on the team... |
Subject: RE: BS: Why Canadians dig Shatner as they do. From: Cluin Date: 25 Aug 04 - 04:03 PM For an MP3 of Shatner's "I Am Canadian" rant. |
Subject: RE: BS: Why Canadians dig Shatner as they do. From: Cluin Date: 25 Aug 04 - 03:56 PM William Shatner is definitely Canadian. He was born in 1931 in Montreal and attended McGill University, majoring in Commerce, at first. Later, he switched his major to Drama. He left to tread the boards at Stratford for it's first 3 seasons, after which he moved to New York to further his career in a more monetary way. Got a few more theatre roles, a couple of movie parts, but discovered his future lay in TV. He had a series before Star Trek, did several parts in Twilight Zone episodes and other shows on in the late 50s and early 60s. Then he landed the role of Captain Kirk. And he became a household name after that. He found his success with television roles and has return to that well many times with great success (even in commercials). In the process, he has developed. patented and made famous his particular brand of "Overkill Bill" emotive acting. His performance has been imitated and lampooned for many years, but everybody recognizes it now. Ya gotta give the devil his due. The man is a success and I'll drink to him any damn day of the week... even Sunday mornings. I do actually have a lot of respect for the guy (keep that under your hat, though). I'd recommend the film "Free Enterprise" for a good sample of his way of handling a humorous but affectionate jab at himself. Like Leslie Neilson turning his hand from drama to comedy without a pause and making it work admirably well, that's another quality I'd term as Canadian (though not uniquely Canadian). |
Subject: RE: BS: Why Canadians dig Shatner as they do. From: robomatic Date: 25 Aug 04 - 01:36 PM David Kelley has a wicked up'n down career in my book. Ally McBeal had some cute moments and then got (for me) terminally weird with the lawyer who had a remote control for the toilet, and his pet frog. I liked the other lawyer who once fondled the wattle of Janet Reno. He had some excellent quotes like "Here's a good opportunity to do an end run around the Second Amendment!". The Practise was pretty good but I got tired of Bobby and his problems with the cute prosecutor and the cute attorney in his own firm that he married. The show would turn serious on some things (Scandal in the RC Church) while milking others for shock/humor/lascivious content, such as the nun who claimed she had immaculately conceived. And there was that wretched movie of his: "Lake Placid" which took 90 minutes out of my life that I want back. So I view Kelley with suspicion. I too want to know about Shanter and Howdy Doody. |
Subject: RE: BS: Why Canadians dig Shatner as they do. From: CarolC Date: 25 Aug 04 - 12:16 PM So |
Subject: RE: BS: Why Canadians dig Shatner as they do. From: William Shatner Date: 25 Aug 04 - 11:02 AM What a bunch of dickheads you really are! I am English, ok? I only pretend to be Canadian to brighten up your drab little country. The USA rocks! You lot on the other hand.................... |
Subject: RE: BS: Why Canadians dig Shatner as they do. From: CarolC Date: 24 Aug 04 - 10:50 PM I see a little bit of myself in Monk. I think maybe that's part of the reason I enjoy him so much. Plus I'm a big fan of Tony Shalhoub. The site I linked to above was speculating about the possibility that Denny Crain might have some form of early dementia, and that was the disability I was refering to in his case. It appears the Denny Crain character is going to continue on a new series called, "Fleet Street". I guess it's going to be on the same network as "The Practice". LH, here's the thread JtS started about it. You might have been out of town while it was active: BS: Guess Who's Getting a TV Series |
Subject: RE: BS: Why Canadians dig Shatner as they do. From: Bill Hahn//\\ Date: 24 Aug 04 - 08:36 PM I don't know about Shatner in Practice---just got me with that nonsensical Denny Crane business. I am not a great fan of Spader---though most are. Well, in any case, we agree---MONK is great. Wonderful ensamble. I just happen to see more Sherlock than Poirot there--a minor quibble. I did love that Willie Nelson episode with the "blind" lady. On a personal note---the ending to that just blew me away for personal reasons. Bill Hahn |
Subject: RE: BS: Why Canadians dig Shatner as they do. From: TS Date: 24 Aug 04 - 08:30 PM Don Messer, Barenaked Ladies, Wayne and Shuster, Nickelback, Mattew Perry, Kim Mitchell, Donald Sutherland, Avril Lavigne....ps..do we have to admit Ashley MacIssac as one of ours?...Slainte! |
Subject: RE: BS: Why Canadians dig Shatner as they do. From: CarolC Date: 24 Aug 04 - 08:02 PM I see Monk more as a Poirot than a Holmes myself. Different kind of neurosis. I also really appreciate the sensitive way they have of portraying people with disabilities (including ones like OCD and Agoraphobia). In fact, I really appreciate the fact that they make a point of putting a very humane spotlight on disabilities in many of their episodes. It would appear that this has also been done with Shatner's character in The Practice. |
Subject: RE: BS: Why Canadians dig Shatner as they do. From: Bill Hahn//\\ Date: 24 Aug 04 - 07:51 PM This should probably be a new MONK thread. Bill H |
Subject: RE: BS: Why Canadians dig Shatner as they do. From: Bill Hahn//\\ Date: 24 Aug 04 - 07:50 PM Can you believe that ABC turned it down (MONK)---USA picked it up and ABC now shows it in prime time re-runs. Sadly, this is this season's finale. The show was created by Andy Breckman whom I have seen perform as a stand-up. Not my cup of tea---but this---really blew me away with the creativity---and also the basic update of Sherlock Holmes with comedy---think about it. Neurotic sleuth, assistant(nurse), bumbling detectives, and strange cases. Done with such style and humor. Bill Hahn |
Subject: RE: BS: Why Canadians dig Shatner as they do. From: CarolC Date: 24 Aug 04 - 07:42 PM I think we did tell you, LH. At least I think JtS did. I'll try to find the thread. |
Subject: RE: BS: Why Canadians dig Shatner as they do. From: CarolC Date: 24 Aug 04 - 07:38 PM Absolutely, Bill H. Thank heavens for Monk. |
Subject: RE: BS: Why Canadians dig Shatner as they do. From: Little Hawk Date: 24 Aug 04 - 07:26 PM Wow. I gotta see it. Wow. Wow. Wow. Why was I not informed sooner? Wow. |
Subject: RE: BS: Why Canadians dig Shatner as they do. From: Bill Hahn//\\ Date: 24 Aug 04 - 07:23 PM So true--Carol--funny as all get out. I still think he is a lousy actor---but this part fits him so well. I shall miss The Practice--and Frasier is gone too---boo hoo. Oh well, thank heavens for Monk. Bill Hahn |
Subject: RE: BS: Why Canadians dig Shatner as they do. From: CarolC Date: 24 Aug 04 - 06:14 PM Here's a paragraph from that link I posted: "In the meantime, Kelley and Shatner worked to create Denny Crane, a brilliant, legendary attorney whose flashes of legal wisdom come between long stretches of odd ramblings and frequent intonations of his own name." |
Subject: RE: BS: Why Canadians dig Shatner as they do. From: CarolC Date: 24 Aug 04 - 06:13 PM Denny Crain This is a great role for Shatner. I've only seen one show with him playing this character, but it was hilarious. |
Subject: RE: BS: Why Canadians dig Shatner as they do. From: Little Hawk Date: 24 Aug 04 - 05:17 PM Who in God's name is Denny Crain? |
Subject: RE: BS: Why Canadians dig Shatner as they do. From: Bill Hahn//\\ Date: 24 Aug 04 - 05:14 PM Denny Crain here. Remember that---Denny Crain. |
Subject: RE: BS: Why Canadians dig Shatner as they do. From: Cluin Date: 24 Aug 04 - 01:31 PM Well Ted, Kim Cattrall, though born in England, emigrated with her parents to Canada when she was 3 months old. She was Canadian enough for Lorne's purposes. Yeah, I didn't get `em all before the sinister phone call stopped me. Missed a few other media legends like Louis B. Mayer, Kate Nelligan, Mack Sennett, Art Linkletter, Jack Warner, Lorne Michaels, Harry Saltzman (producer of the James Bond flicks), Lois Maxwell (Moneypenny), Doug Henning, Yousuf Karsh, Jennifer & Meg Tilly, Daniel Lanois, W. P. Kinsella, Deanna Durbin, Maynard Ferguson, Monty Hall, Mimi Kuzyk, John Kenneth Galbraith, Don Harron (Charlie Farquharson on HeeHaw), Gordie Tapp (also from HeeHaw) Alex Trebek, Joe Shuster (creator of Superman), William Gibson, Marshall MacLuhan, Mort Sahl... Damn, there's a knock at the door... |
Subject: RE: BS: Why Canadians dig Shatner as they do. From: Grateful Ted Date: 24 Aug 04 - 08:37 AM oi cluin, you missed Leonard Cohen off your list, and Kim Cattrall is English. , |
Subject: RE: BS: Why Canadians dig Shatner as they do. From: Cluin Date: 23 Aug 04 - 06:59 PM "If you can't beat them with bats, bomb them with butter"? |
Subject: RE: BS: Why Canadians dig Shatner as they do. From: GUEST,m Date: 23 Aug 04 - 06:37 PM Some of the nay sayers are having a difficult time with reality. Face facts: Shatner IS Shatner. IYCBTWBBTWB. |
Subject: RE: BS: Why Canadians dig Shatner as they do. From: Little Hawk Date: 23 Aug 04 - 03:28 PM Definitely not. Perish the thought. |
Subject: RE: BS: Why Canadians dig Shatner as they do. From: Peace Date: 23 Aug 04 - 02:59 PM That last little thing was the Shatner connection. Not tryin' to hijack this excellent thread dedicated to a true Canadian icon. |
Subject: RE: BS: Why Canadians dig Shatner as they do. From: Peace Date: 23 Aug 04 - 02:57 PM Canadians know that the people who represent us in the Olympics are doing their best. We don't expect more than that. Most of the kids pretty much pay for their own training or become members of clubs that help them train. However, the Games are just that: games. I recall cheering for Mark Spitz in 1972 (?) when he won a slew of medals, even when he was competing against a Canadian. Felt the same watching Nadia Comaneci--that diminuitive gymnast from Romania who blew the world away with her performances. When Canadian athletes do well, we are happy for them, so we think getting a gold in ANYTHING is fantastic. However, just receiving a medal will have a crowd of people greet athletes at the airport. Gold, Silver, Bronze: hey, ya done good. No medal? Hey, ya done good, because you did your best, and no one has the right to ask for more from anyone. Fellow I went to a summer camp with--for gymnastics and track--competed in the Mexico Olympics. If I remember correctly, he blew his dismount on the rings. Lost the bronze by that much. Hell, broke our hearts. But were we proud of him? Bet yer ass. Sometimes ya win, sometimes ya lose, and sometimes ya play in the rain. I think in watching the Olympic Games, it's wise to consider that the athletes are trying their best, and even the guys or gals who come in last have accomplished something most people never will. They have gone where few have gone before. |
Subject: RE: BS: Why Canadians dig Shatner as they do. From: GUEST,Larry K Date: 23 Aug 04 - 02:23 PM The heck with Shatner. You should brag about Shania. That is truly Canadas greatest import. (check out the Richard Knetchel song "if Shania was mine". You have to love Canadians. They are just so nice. At Summerfolk this past weekend, a group from Austrailia named Bluehouse said "We didn't know the Canadian national anthem before coming here, and we were hoping to learn it from the Olympics...oh well" And the Canadians still loved them. On the Jim Rome sports show today he read an e-mail from a Canadian listener who stated they "one" a gold medal. Rome went on for 15 minutes how it couldn't be a typo because it would be a 3 letter typo. I thought people that stupid were only in the USA. Little Hawk- are you OK with Leonard Nimoy squeezing Shatner out in those Priceline commercials? I wouldn't want to see another Canadian unemployed. |
Subject: RE: BS: Why Canadians dig Shatner as they do. From: Jack the Sailor Date: 23 Aug 04 - 02:10 PM And what have the Americans sent to Canada in return? Ronnie Hawkins. |
Subject: RE: BS: Why Canadians dig Shatner as they do. From: Little Hawk Date: 23 Aug 04 - 01:56 PM Yes. Our takeover is nearly complete. Resistance is futile. Prepare to be assimilated. |
Subject: RE: BS: Why Canadians dig Shatner as they do. From: Cluin Date: 23 Aug 04 - 01:43 PM Bullshit! JJ is right. It all started with Lorne Greene. He conceived the plot to take over the American media by slow increments since it was becoming a serious threat to Canadian culture. His recruits have included William Shatner, of course, but in addition to (young and old) Donald Sutherland, Ivan Reitman, Yvonne DeCarlo, Christopher Plummer, Brian Adams, Kim Cattrall, Dan Ackroyd, Tommy Chong, Joni Mitchell, Genevieve Bujold, Keanu Reeves, Carrie-Anne Moss, k.d. lang, Dave Thomas, Anne Murray, Michael J. Fox, Morley Safer, Paul Anka, Pamela Anderson, James Doohan, Alanis Morisette, Wayne Gretzky, Rich Little, Raymond Massey, Neil Young, John Colicos, Andrea Martin, James Cameron, Stan Rogers, Colleen Dewhurst, Gordon Lightfoot, Scott Bairstow, Wilf Carter, Michael Ontkean, Natalie MacMaster, Glen Ford, Margot Kidder, Buffy Sainte-Marie, Dave Foley, Margaret Atwood, Conrad Bain, Natasha Henstridge, Arthur Kent, Robert Goulet, Mike Myers, Paul Shaffer, David Cronenberg, Lynette Jennings, Graham Greene, Caroline Rhea, Barry Morse, Sarah McLachlan, Faye Wray, Colin Mochrie, Keith Morrison, Chantall Kreviasuk, Norman Jewison, Jill Hennessy, Liona Boyd, Gordon Pinsent, Robert MacNeil, Jason Priestley, Mary Pickford, Paul Gross, Keifer Sutherland, Shania Twain, Guy Lombardo, Neve Campbell, Matthew Perry, Oscar Peterson, Hume Cronyn, Alan Thicke, Hank Snow, Catherine O'Hara, Eugene Levy, Celine Dion, Helen Shaver, Jim Carrey, Robbie Robertson, Jay Silverheels, Martin Short, Diana Krall, Leslie Nielson, Raymond Burr, Chief Dan George, John Candy, Norma Shearer, Rick Moranis, Howie Mandel, Peter Jennings, Ashley MacIsaac, Robert W. Service, Mike Weir, Amanda Marshall... Whoops! I've said too much. Forget it all , please. They'll be coming for me now. |
Subject: RE: BS: Why Canadians dig Shatner as they do. From: HRH ted of hull Date: 23 Aug 04 - 05:19 AM My lawn is green |
Subject: RE: BS: Why Canadians dig Shatner as they do. From: Little Hawk Date: 22 Aug 04 - 12:21 PM jacqui c - I begin to worry about you. I think you should PM me and maybe we can get this straightened out. I really am growing concerned that you are losing your bearings. :-) |
Subject: RE: BS: Why Canadians dig Shatner as they do. From: JJ Date: 22 Aug 04 - 08:19 AM I would have voted for Lorne Greene, myself. He was the "Voice of Canada," his TV show ran longer, and he had a number one hit with "Ringo." |
Subject: RE: BS: Why Canadians dig Shatner as they do. From: jacqui.c Date: 22 Aug 04 - 05:03 AM Is Canada just one big insanae asylum? If you two are representative of the population as a whole why is your 'greatest export' an idiot like Shatner. You have so much more to offer the world than that. |
Subject: RE: BS: Why Canadians dig Shatner as they do. From: Peace Date: 21 Aug 04 - 09:46 PM True, my wise friend. They are 'sports' that rank up there with football--either version for our British friends, particularly Villan. Puts rugby to shame. Nothing like a goosed moose to start your day in the great outdoors of Canada. And ALL of it is the great outdoors, except for Toronto. It's the Canadian version. Have a few chugs and goose the moose. Run like hell. Rutting season, however, is another thing totally. Goose a moose in rutting season and you have a friend for life. And if that moose catches you, you will find out that size matters more than you thought possible. Actually, the saner amongst us are considering goosing hamsters. More of an issue of comfort rather than style. Anyway, I see I have rambled on. So I will end here. VOTE HILLARY! |
Subject: RE: BS: Why Canadians dig Shatner as they do. From: Little Hawk Date: 21 Aug 04 - 08:57 PM We have already put them to shame when it comes to chugging maple syrup, goosing moose, and other valuable activites of that sort... |
Subject: RE: BS: Why Canadians dig Shatner as they do. From: Peace Date: 21 Aug 04 - 08:50 PM Canadians are working on cordless bungee jumping. It's not catching on that quickly, but someday it will, and we'll put the New Zealanders to shame. |
Subject: RE: BS: Why Canadians dig Shatner as they do. From: hesperis Date: 21 Aug 04 - 08:39 PM "I love the fact that Canada Exported Shatner!" Exactly. I agree wholeheartedly, JtS. The fact that I am in the US now, importing a manfolk to Canada, has nothing at all to do with the plan to take over the US... nothing. |
Subject: RE: BS: Why Canadians dig Shatner as they do. From: Bill Hahn//\\ Date: 21 Aug 04 - 08:20 PM Now---if only he could act. Denny Crain here!!! So many other great Canadians that can act---and never have to rely on: =Denny Crain here---or Beam me up. But--what the hell, he is a great singer with an LP that must have sold at least 5 copies. Bill Hahn (Denny Crain here) |
Subject: RE: BS: Why Canadians dig Shatner as they do. From: GUEST,Ellenpoly/Shatner Date: 21 Aug 04 - 07:57 AM Good job, Little Hawk. All of you out there can now rest easy and forget about all this nonsense. (William channelling through Ellenpoly with her complete permission, since she now understands her mission..um..not that there IS any mission, mind you.) |
Subject: RE: BS: Why Canadians dig Shatner as they do. From: jacqui.c Date: 21 Aug 04 - 04:53 AM Canada's claim to fame - Shatner New Zealand's claim to fame - bungee jumping No more need be said..... |
Subject: RE: BS: Why Canadians dig Shatner as they do. From: robomatic Date: 21 Aug 04 - 03:07 AM Spock sabo-tadge the system! |
Subject: RE: BS: Why Canadians dig Shatner as they do. From: Metchosin Date: 21 Aug 04 - 12:20 AM Canada threw away the cookie cutter after producing Robert Goulet and William Shatner.....well...at least one can only hope. |
Subject: RE: BS: Why Canadians dig Shatner as they do. From: Jack the Sailor Date: 21 Aug 04 - 12:07 AM Yes, but you are in the USA now, Jack, and so is Shatner. Oh Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!! Must hold on...... Must talk computer into self destruct........ Must stay out of taverns with green alien female dancers. |
Subject: RE: BS: Why Canadians dig Shatner as they do. From: CarolC Date: 20 Aug 04 - 11:48 PM mack/misophist, it's all a part of the "taking over (US) America" plan, phase one. (Phase two is why JtS was sent down here by the Canadian authorities. That's the *"fetchin up the womenfolk" part of the plan.) (*Bardford spilled the beans on that phase of the plan.) |
Subject: RE: BS: Why Canadians dig Shatner as they do. From: Little Hawk Date: 20 Aug 04 - 10:30 PM Well, all these entertainment types do that, it seems. Buffy Sainte-Marie is living in Hawaii. Shatner's got a place in Kentucky or somewhere around there. Jim Carrey's in Hollywood. What the heck. I can forgive Bill for that. |
Subject: RE: BS: Why Canadians dig Shatner as they do. From: mack/misophist Date: 20 Aug 04 - 10:26 PM And Star Fleet Command would still like to speak to ex-Captain Kirk about the many times he deserted his vessel during times of peril. The officer I spoke to muttered something about "a life sentence in the boron mines". Or maybe it was 'moron mimes'. |
Subject: RE: BS: Why Canadians dig Shatner as they do. From: mack/misophist Date: 20 Aug 04 - 10:22 PM L.H.'s patriotism is to be commended. Has he reflected on the fact, however, that the target of his affections has flown the coop, abandoned the auld sod, and become a Californian? I put it to you. Has he considered that? No real Canadian would ever raise horses and have a swimming pool in the back yard. No matter how much he might want to. |