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Subject: River Songs
From: Folk1234
Date: 30 Oct 98 - 10:30 AM

This month's song swap topic is River songs. I'm seeking chords and background (I have the lyrics)on the following songs: New Harmony (Craig Johnson), Rolling to Cairo (Dillon Bustin), Living on the River (Jerry Rasssmussen), and Rivers of Texas (??). Thanks in advance for your help.


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Bill D
Date: 30 Oct 98 - 11:54 AM

I have been looking for almost 30 years, and I never met anyone who claimed they knew an author to "The Rivers of Texas".. I first learned it from a girl named 'Ellen' who had been in the Chicago scene in the early '60s, and she said that the story was that some guy came into a bar in Texas a few years earlier and sang it, and someone copied it down. I have no idea how true that might be..it does not 'sound' very old...but it has acted very much as a 'folk' song for 30-40 years now..


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: rich r
Date: 30 Oct 98 - 01:39 PM

Speaking of Rivers Of Texas, Art Theme has sung (written probably also) Rivers of Illinois, and Dan Keding has done Rivers of Wisconsin. That leaves 47 states unaccounted for.

rich r


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: S. P. Buck Mulligan
Date: 30 Oct 98 - 03:51 PM

Bill Staines wrote a neat tune called "River" which does not specify a particular river, but which his fellow Granite Staters always assume is the Merrimack; could be the Saco, Piscataqua, Nashua, Androscoggin, etc. as well I suppose. don't have lyrics, but should be findable if you search the web on Bill Staines.


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Bill D
Date: 30 Oct 98 - 06:19 PM

well, I have heard the "The River of New Jersey"...well done song...Dick Levine sings it...not sure who wrote it... and then there is 'The Rivers of Nebraska" as follows...

"We crossed the Platte, we forded the Platte"
We swam the Platte; we followed the Platte....."..etc...


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Art Thieme
Date: 30 Oct 98 - 09:59 PM

The song I do was written by Win Stracke--a founder of the Old Town School of Folk Music in Chicago. It's called "Down By The Embarrass"----that's pronounced "Am-braw" by the locals. It's on KM-148 __A.T.--Songs Of The Heartland__ (sung by me & Cindy Mangsen about 20 years ago)Kicking Mule Records -- now owned by Fantasy.

Dan Keding's fine song was written by him.


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: BSeed
Date: 30 Oct 98 - 10:27 PM

There are "Shenandoah," which in some versions is about the river of that name and other times about "the wide Missouri," "Banks of the Ohio," "Way Down upon the Swanee River," and of course hundreds about the River Jordan. Not to mention "The Seine," recorded by the Kingston Trio. --that's about two minutes worth of thinking. --seed


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Roger in Baltimore
Date: 30 Oct 98 - 10:34 PM

Of course, the DT is full of river songs. If you just search river you get...., well, I stopped looking after 140 songs. Some just mention the word river, but songs that come to mind are "Ain't No More Cane on the Brazos", Pete Seeger's "Big Muddy", and the gospel tune "Deep River". All in the DT. Bill Staines "River" is in the DT. Try the search [river run down to the sea], it takes you right there.

A song I didn't find is "Bamboo" credited to Dave Van Ronk. How about Woody's "Roll on Columbia?" Woody wrote this for pay from the US Gubmint. How politically incorrect can you get? In the DT of course!

There seems to be a river of river songs out there.

Roger in Baltimore


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Barry Finn
Date: 31 Oct 98 - 11:39 AM

Bill D, I picked up Rivers Of East Teaxs back in the 70's from Rob Joel he said he had it as a fairly old song but I can't ask him about it now he's long gone. The best I've ever heard this done was by Skip Gorman & he's recorded it but I don't know on where or what. Barry


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Joe Offer
Date: 31 Oct 98 - 12:56 PM

Anybody got the lyrics to "Rivers of Wisconsin"? Are you lurking here, Dan Keding? care to share your song with us?
-Joe Offer, who once lived near the mighty Root River, and canoed the Wild Wolf-


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Barbara Shaw
Date: 31 Oct 98 - 08:44 PM

You can find a forum discussion of the song Rivers of Babylon.

I also remember some old sheet music for a song called something like "By the Connecticut River Shore" but hunting through my old sheet music only turned up my sinus allergy alarms.


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Joe Offer
Date: 31 Oct 98 - 09:31 PM

In the Lester Levy Sheet Music Collection, there are 159 pieces of music that have the word "river." One I found there that I like particularly is "Shall We Gather at the River."
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: John in Brisbane
Date: 01 Nov 98 - 06:17 PM

The Jolson Story had a young Al siging Banks of the Wabash. Have never seen or heard of it elsewhere. Can anyone oblige please with the lyrics?

Regards
John


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Tim Jaques tjaques@netcom.ca
Date: 02 Nov 98 - 07:17 PM

There is "Congo River", but you'd never get away with singing all the verses today. A shorter version is in the database.

I can think of a couple of Canadian ones. "Roll On, Saskatchewan" and "Out On The Mira" (ABC's for the latter were posted earlier). And the very lively French-Canadian one, "Youpee! Youpee!", the lyrics to which I seem to recall posting in a thread some time ago.

And the McGarrigle's "Matapedia", even though they have the river flowing the wrong way.


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: JB3
Date: 03 Nov 98 - 04:34 AM

The Waters of Tyne is in the database. I'ts a lovely song from the Border area of England/Scotland about two lovers separated by a river.


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Joe Offer
Date: 03 Nov 98 - 05:54 AM

John in Brisbane, we wouldn't want you to get away without "On the Banks of the Wabash, Far Away." Click here for the song.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Tim Jaques tjaques@netcom.ca
Date: 03 Nov 98 - 07:07 AM

"The Broad Majestic Shannon", by the Pogues, or rather Shane McGowan.


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Tim Jaques tjaques@netcom.ca
Date: 03 Nov 98 - 07:10 AM

Sorry, forgot "Sweet Thames Flow Softly".

I got the title wrong. The title is "Song For The Mira", not "Out On The Mira." Pay attention, boy!:)

Doesn't Kate Rusby sing one about a Scottish river on her latest CD?


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: John in Brisbane
Date: 03 Nov 98 - 05:55 PM

Thanks Joe, and yes I did catch the other thread. Very thoughtful of you on both counts.

Regards
John


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Subject: Lyr Add: RIVERS OF WISCONSIN^^
From: Dan Keding
Date: 04 Nov 98 - 05:05 PM

Joe,
Hope this is what you were looking for.

The Rivers of Wisconsin

I've crossed the broad Flambeau, I've forded the Fox
I swum the Red Cedar, I followed the Black
Sugar is muddy, the St. Croix is clear
Down by the Eau Claire I courted my dear.

Chorus
Li la li lee la lee give me your hand (3x)
There's many a river that waters our land.

The sweet Chippewa it runs glossy and gliding
The crooked Rock River runs weaving and winding
The old Wisconsin courses the plain
I never will walk by the Eau Claire again.

She hugged me she kissed me she called me her dandy
The Wolf is rocky the Plover is sandy
She hugged me she kissed me she called me her own
Down by the Eau Claire she left me a lone.

The girls of the Pestigo they're fair and they're pretty
The Big Rib and Yellow have many a beauty
The Kickapoo flows swiftly passed girls by the score
So down by the Eau Claire I'll wander no more.


All I did was put in Wisconsin rivers and change a word here or there. Let people know I had something to do with it and its all yours.

Enjoy
Dan


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: LacyEMT
Date: 04 Nov 98 - 05:20 PM

I am helping a friend search for the title and artist and other info on a song we recieved a wav. of... the beginning lyrics go :

The river is flowing, flowing and flowing. The river is flowing back to the sea. Mother carry me........ it has a very familiar ring to it but we cant place it... we both really like it tho.... so any info would be greatly helpful. Thanks in advance.... please email me at LacyEMT@aol.com


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: rich r
Date: 04 Nov 98 - 07:27 PM

Haven't been back to this thread in a while, so I didn't know that Joe was hankering for rivers of Wis. and glad to see that Dan K heard the cry and obliged. I got Rivers of Wisconsin off Dan's album and recorded it on a private issue cassette about 10 years ago. Since I grew up in Two Rivers, I substituted the "West Twin" for the Eau Claire. Everybody's got to add their own little touch to these kind of songs.

To Dan, if you are still out there, I also once swiped you version of "Oats & Beans" and medleyed it with Arlo Guthrie's "Down on the American Farm" for a stint at a local Heritage Days celeb.

rich r


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Joe Offer
Date: 05 Nov 98 - 04:15 AM

Thanks for the song, Dan. I see you left off the Mighty Root River. Come to think about it, that's just as well. It's mentioned in the Official Song of the City of Racine, Wisconsin, the Belle City of the Great Lakes:
Oh, Racine, Racine, what a dirty rotten city
With your torn-up streets and your filthy-smelling river
Oh, I love you with my heart, and I love you with my liver.
Oh, Racine, what a hole.

Not all rivers are scenic, and there are parts of Wisconsin that aren't particularly pretty, either. But there were lots of things I liked about Racine, that dirty little industrial town where I grew up. It ain't as bad as Kenosha.
And your song did include the Wolf, which is my favorite Wisconsin River - a nice river for canoeing and the first place I ever saw a bald eagle.
-Joe Offer-

The tune for my "Racine" song is more-or-less "Turkey in the Straw." Maybe it's closer to "Do Your Ears (Balls?) Hang Low?"
-Joe Offer, April, 2005-


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Jon Eastmond
Date: 05 Nov 98 - 06:33 AM

Norma Waterson opens her 96 solo album with, "Black Muddy River" (Gerry Garcia/Robert Hunter)


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Barbara
Date: 05 Nov 98 - 03:11 PM

Joe, we used to sing something similar, and I bet the tune is the same as your Racine song:
    Ol' Purdue, ol' Purdue, how you make me shiver
    With your old sweet shop on the Wabash River
    How I love you with my heart and I love you with my liver
    Ol' Purdue. (clap clap) by the river. (clap clap)
It was one of those where, each time through you sang it faster and left off the last clap).
Blessings,
Barbara


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Azizi
Date: 26 Aug 06 - 07:18 AM

As we approach the first 'anniversary' of the nature made devastation of Hurricane Katrina and the human made devastation of what should have been done before and after that hurricane's landing in New Orleans and other parts of the US Gulf states, I got to thinking about the first I learned that mention levees. I remember learning this song in Mr. Sibrola junior high school music class many moons ago. Here are the words I remember of that song:

River looks dark with the shadows on it.
Mighty black clouds in the sky above.
Still I aint fraid of the rain, doggone it
River and rain are the things I love.

Rain, fall down on me.
I'm as happy as I can be.

I'm gone down on the levee.
Gonna build myself a rockin chair.
If my lovin man don't come,
I'll rock away from there.

-snip-

That's all I remember. Does anyone know the title of that song and other lyrics to it? And if I got the words wrong, please 'right' them for me, and add more lyrics if there are any.

Thanks.


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Azizi
Date: 26 Aug 06 - 07:21 AM

Come to think of it, that's the only song I can think of that mentions levees.

And truth be told, until Hurricane Katrina, I didn't know what a levee is.

[That may go to show you that I don't know beans about folk music. It also goes to show you that I don't get around much anymore, not that I ever did].


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Old Grizzly
Date: 26 Aug 06 - 07:53 AM

Hui Aziza

American Pie

drove my chevvy to the levee,......


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Azizi
Date: 26 Aug 06 - 07:58 AM

Hi back, Old Grizzly.

You're right. I have heard that song.

Well that makes two levee songs I know.

Thanks for reminding me.


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Dave'sWife
Date: 26 Aug 06 - 01:22 PM

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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: LacyEMT - PM
Date: 04 Nov 98 - 05:20 PM

I am helping a friend search for the title and artist and other info on a song we recieved a wav. of... the beginning lyrics go :

The river is flowing, flowing and flowing. The river is flowing back to the sea. Mother carry me........ it has a very familiar ring to it but we cant place it... we both really like it tho.... so any info would be greatly helpful. Thanks in advance.... please email me at LacyEMT@aol.com <<<

Ya know, there is a wonderful documentary about fans of the Grateful Dead that features a girl quite high on Ex and/or LSD singing a song very much like that. it was hauntingly beautiful and I always wondered where it came from. I don't know the name of the film, but I'll look it up. I know they credited the gal in the music credits. She described learning the song from some other Deadhead who she refers to by her DH name and then launches into it acapella. later in the film, they replay her singing but add some instrumentation. I believe it may be the same song.


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Ron Davies
Date: 26 Aug 06 - 01:45 PM

Don't forget Jerry Rasmussen's delightful "Living on the River" (don't think it's been mentioned yet).


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Zany Mouse
Date: 26 Aug 06 - 02:10 PM

And don't forget "River Days" and "London River"

Rhiannon


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Zany Mouse
Date: 26 Aug 06 - 02:12 PM

I forgot to say:

London River is by the much missed Rod Shearman.

River Days is by one of the major hunks on the folk scenes, Barrie Temple. (Barrie you owe me a hug for that!)

Rhiannon


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Dave'sWife
Date: 26 Aug 06 - 02:21 PM

I spent half an hour searching for that Grateful dead documentary with no luck. it came out after JG died but was shot over 3 summers when he was alive. Anyone??


Oh, my fave river song:

Matamoros banks off the Devils & Dust album. it's about the Rio Grande. It's a song I would love to do as a duet with someone. Amos?


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE RIVER SHE IS FLOWING
From: Dave'sWife
Date: 26 Aug 06 - 03:03 PM

Founds the song that LacyEMT was looking for byut not the film where I heard it sung:


THE RIVER SHE IS FLOWING

The river she is flowing, flowing and growing.
The river she is flowing, down to the sea.
Mother, carry me, your child I will always be.
Mother, carry me down to the sea.

The wind he is blowing, blowing and rolling
The wind he is blowing all through the trees
Gentle wind carry me, your child I will always be
Gentle wind carry me all through the trees.

The earth she is changing, changing and moving.
The earth she is changing, all through the years.
Mother Earth, carry me, your child I will always be.
Mother Earth carry me, all through the years.

The fire, he is burning, burning and glowing.
The fire he is burning, ashes to dust.
Fire carry me, your child I will always be.
Fire carry me, ashes to dust.


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Zany Mouse
Date: 26 Aug 06 - 04:14 PM

Dave's Wife.

This is a Pagan chant.

Rhiannon


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Zany Mouse
Date: 26 Aug 06 - 06:36 PM

Amazing co-incidence: This is talked about in another current thread. What is the chance of that I wonder?

Rhiannon


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Subject: River Songs/ Banks Of The Wabash
From: Genie
Date: 27 Aug 06 - 12:32 AM

Some other river songs I can think of right now:
Roll On, columbia?
Beutiful Ohio
Watching the River Run (Loggins & Messina?)
Let The River Run - Carly Simon
Proud Mary - CCR
Ol' Man River (from Showboat)
Black Water - Doobie Bros.
Green River - CCR
River Of No Return (Marilyn Monroe sang it in the film of the same name, and the Sons Of The Pioneers recorded it)
River - Joni Mitchell
By The Rio Grande - Tish Hinojosa
The River - Garth Brooks

Red River Valley
Swanee River
Down By The Riverside
Flow Gently, Sweet Afton
Mississippi Mud (OK, not exactly a levee, but close - a good place to beat your feet)


As for Banks Of the Wabash, here's what I remember of it:

Oh, the moonlight's fair (bright?) tonight along the Wabash.
From the fields there comes a breath of new-mown hay.
Through the sycamore the candle lights are gleaming
On the Banks Of The Wabash far away.


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Dave'sWife
Date: 27 Aug 06 - 08:51 AM

Zany Mouse - I have seen people claim it as a pagan chant, an american indian song, an irish song, a welsh song and so on. Until I see some real scholorship, I'll not believe any of it.

While searching fore the lyrics, I found a completely unintentionally hilarious article citing this song as one that modern suburban women should sing to their daughters at "red parties" to celebrate their menarche. Mind you, the writer wasn't actually a Wiccan, Pagan, American indian or any such thing - just a suburban mom of judeo-christian background playing at Goddess worship.

Perhaps it's judgemental of me to critcize others for playing around at other people's spirituality and culture. However, I just can't help but find such things ridiculous. When I was working collecting folklore, language references and stories from real American Indians, I got to see up close and personal how painful it is for those born into a hijacked culture to have to sit by and see it adopted haphazardly by those trying on any new thing they come across. It is especially upsetting for those who have had to suffer as a result of their identity to see affluent folks of european descent claim that heritage as their own for a week or a year or so. (Until they come across something else 'cool" that "moves" them)

Most of the men I collected from were High Steel workers and my simply being seen with them in a public in some towns was enough to start a fight. I once hitched a ride on the back of one Mohawk guy's motorcycle to get to a dig a friend of mine was working on and we made the mistake of stopping to get a cold drink in Fort Plain (Central Upstate NY). We never made that mistake again.

End of rant - never mind me. Just getting it off my chest.


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Sorcha
Date: 27 Aug 06 - 10:04 AM

Nobody has said, Old Man River yet!!


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Genie
Date: 27 Aug 06 - 12:12 PM

Yeah, I did. 'Cep'n ah lef' the "d" offa "Old" in th' title. ;-D


But, hey, it's a great song!   (Especially Paul Robeson's later, consiousness-raised, new take on the song from the 1940s.) So no problem listing it twice.

Bill Staines's "River" is also a great song, so I'll second that mention too.

Genie


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Subject: Lyr Add: WE ARE THE RIVER
From: open mike
Date: 27 Aug 06 - 01:03 PM

i seem to recall recently posting the lyrics to "We Are The River"
but i can't find them so here you go again..maybe "someone" can do
a "lyric add" ? (if not already done--the search engine seems faulty)

WE ARE THE RIVER

We're gonna wash your levees down
Coming from the Mountain
We're comin' right down thru your town
We're gonna join with the other rivers
You know, the dam don't stand a chance
Because no dam the man can build will stand
When the sea begins to dance

We're gonna join with the fishes
and help them on thier way
though the man tries to kill them
and frighten them away
From the depths up to the surface
you know the fishes can't be found
Because only water knows where the water flows
when the river's underground
when the river's underground

Maple buds are bloomin'
and the small stream trickles down
snows are a-meltin'
and the river rushes round in town
We'll have no more of your reservoirs
keepin' us from bein' free
because flood time is here my friend
and we're almost to the sea,
you know we're almost to the sea


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Dave'sWife
Date: 27 Aug 06 - 01:21 PM

Pete Seeger has written a few songs about the Hudson river for what it's worth.

I also count The Erie Canal as a river song since the canal functioned as a river and parallels the Mohawk river for most of it's length. Low bridge everybody down!

Not that anyone cares, but I spent a couple of summers on archaeologocal digs along the Mohawk river and beside remnants of the Canal. The incidents I mentioned above took place then. Beautiful country but stuck in a pre-civil rights era, I'm afraid. The decline of the canal seems to have frozen some of the larger towns in time since no new development ensued. It's a haunted sort of place, many of those old boomtowns - not yet ghostowns but they're on their way.


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Lady Hillary
Date: 27 Aug 06 - 05:02 PM

Then, there's "The River's Tale."


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Genie
Date: 27 Aug 06 - 05:37 PM

I forgot the Jimmie Rodgers song "Miss The Mississippi And You."
Jimmie didn't write it, but he did a great job singing it.

And can we count "Catfish John" as a river song?


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Subject: Lyr Add: OH GALENA (Jim Post)
From: erinmaidin
Date: 28 Aug 06 - 06:48 AM

"Oh,Galena" by Jim Post:L
Subject: Lyr Add: OH GALENA (Jim Post)
From: Melani - PM
Date: 23 May 04 - 04:08 PM

My papa is a slave on the Fever River,
Works all day in the burnin' sun.
Loadin' the wood in the red-hot smelter;
He's so tired when the day is done.
When the lead starts to flow into the ladle,
Scrape off the top and let the pig cool down.
Load the pig lead into the master's wagon,
Down Stagecoach Trail to Galena town.

Cho: Oh, Galena, oh, Galena,
    You're such a pretty little riverboat town;
    But I wish we could spend more time on the levee,
    Watchin' the riverboats come to town.

A slave is only worth what his back can carry;
So I guess my papa's worth about half of the world;
I heard him say to mama after supper,
"I wish that boy was lucky, like the girls.
'Cause the girls get to work in the nice warm kitchen,
Cookin' the food and fetchin' the clothes.
When the rocks freeze to the ground in the winter,
That boy will sweat like a mule in the falling snow."

Cho:

Now slavery's not legal in Illinois;
That's what I heard Reverend Cartwright say.
And if someday we get our freedom,
That's gonna be a dancing day.
We'll build us a cabin on the Fever River,
We'll file a claim and we'll dig for lead.
When we hit it, then we'll be rich folks,
And we'll sleep in a feather bed.

Cho:


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Subject: Lyr Add: RIVER (Bill Staines)
From: erinmaidin
Date: 28 Aug 06 - 06:51 AM

I was born in the path of the winter wind,
Raised where the mountains are old --
Their springtime waters came dancing down,
And I remember the tales they told.

The whistling ways of my younger days
Too quickly have faded on by,
But all of their memories linger on
Like the light in a fading sky.

River, take me along,
In your sunshine, sing me a song,
Ever moving and winding and free,
You rolling old river, you changing old river,
Let's you and me, river, run down to the sea.

I've been to the cities and back again,
And I've been moved by some things that I've learned.
Met a lot of good people and called them friends,
Felt the change when the seasons turned.

I've heard all the songs that the children sang,
And I've listened to love's melodies.
I've felt my own music within me rise
Like the wind in the autumn trees.

River, take me along,
In your sunshine, sing me a song,
Ever moving and winding and free,
You rolling old river, you changing old river,
Let's you and me, river, run down to the sea.

Some day when the flowers are blooming still,
Some day when the grass is still green,
My rolling waters will round the bend
And flow into the open sea.

So here's to the rainbow that's followed me here
And here's to the friends that I know,
And here's to the song that's within me now --
I will sing it where'er I go.

River, take me along,
In your sunshine, sing me a song,
Ever moving and winding and free,
You rolling old river, you changing old river,
Let's you and me, river, run down to the sea.

(Think this is by Bill Staines and I think I got it off of an old Mary and Frances Black recording)


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: GUEST,Mary V.
Date: 28 Aug 06 - 09:41 PM

I didn't see Down by the Riverside !


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Genie
Date: 28 Aug 06 - 10:28 PM

erinmaidin, those are the lyrics to Bill's song "River," which some of us have listed above. It's a great song!


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Amos
Date: 28 Aug 06 - 10:37 PM

DW:

Be delighted -- but you'll have to larn me how it goes...

A


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Subject: Lyr Add: THAT SONG ABOUT THE RIVER
From: Amos
Date: 28 Aug 06 - 10:43 PM

THAT SONG ABOUT THE RIVER
Words and music by Steve Gillette and Charles John Quarto
(c)Copyright 1990, Foreshadow Songs, BMI

I've seen the paddlewheelers rollin' south on a summer's day
I've seen lovers at the guardrails with stars in their lemonade.
And I've heard the hobos gather, heard their banjos grace the glade
Heard them sing about the river called it the lazy man's parade.

CHORUS: Sing me that song about the river, green goin' away.
I always did feel like a drifter, about this time of day.

Last night I stood by the highway, pretended I was on my way.
You know a hundred thousand headlights couldn't match the milky way.
And when the moonlight touches the water, surely something touches me,
And I go reaching for the river, like it,s reaching for the sea.

Some things go on forever, the truth don't ever stray
The wind may brush the water but the river holds her sway.


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: GUEST,banjoman
Date: 29 Aug 06 - 06:30 AM

What about the Ohio Boatman's Song or on a more mundane note Ferry across the Mersey - River of no return - The Humber Bridge song -By the river of Babylon etc etc


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Genie
Date: 29 Aug 06 - 03:37 PM

Does "Gently Down The Stream Of Time" count?


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Roberto
Date: 29 Aug 06 - 03:48 PM

Percy Mayfield: The River's Invitation


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Mr Fox
Date: 30 Aug 06 - 09:14 AM

I remember (However hard I try not to) a 1970's folk-rock 'concept album' entitled 'When God's on the Water - A Musical Journey Down a River from Source to Sea'. It was TERRIBLE. I still sometimes wake up in a cold sweat having had a flashback of the heavy rock treatment of 'Marrowbones'.

The band involved (Which had some unpronouncable and pretentiously twee 'folky' name, as I recall) actually got a contract for a second album from a (presumably tone-deaf) producer but after that thankfully vanished into the 'where are they now?' bin.


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: KenBrock
Date: 30 Aug 06 - 03:25 PM

Mason Williams (best known as head writer for The Smother Brothers and for "Classical Gas") recorded an album of River songs in 1984: OF TIME AND RIVERS FLOWING, drawn from a larger group that he collected for performance circa 1982. Info:
http://www.masonwilliams-online.com/perfotrf.html


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: KenBrock
Date: 30 Aug 06 - 03:41 PM

Pete Seeger: "Sailing Down my Golden River".
Bob Zentz also has a song about the James and Elizabeth Rivers in VA, "Window on the River" or something similar.
There was also a song about the Kepone pollution in the James River 25 years ago: PPM (Parts Per Million).


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Subject: Lyr Add: MESSING ABOUT ON THE RIVER
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 30 Aug 06 - 04:54 PM

My all time fav river song....(and the naughty version ;-)

MESSING ABOUT ON THE RIVER
(Tony Hatch / Les Reed)

Josh MacRae - 1962
Danny Kyle - 1998


When the weather is fine you know it's the time
For messin' about on the river
If you take my advice there's nothing so nice
As messin' about on the river
There's big boats and wee boats ands all kinds of craft
Puffers and keel boats and some with no raft
With the wind in your face there's no finer place
Than messin' about on the river

There are boats made from kits that'll reach you in bits
For messin' about on the river
And you might want to skull in a glass fibred hull
Go messin' about on the river
Anchors and tillers and rudders and cleets
Ropes that are sometimes referred to as sheets
With the wind in your face there's no finer place
Than messin' about on the river

Skippers and mates and rowing club eights
All messin' about on the river
Capstans and quays where you tie up with ease
All messin' about on the river
Outboards and inboards and dinghies you sail
The first thing you learn is the right way to bale
In a one man canoe you're both skipper and crew
Messin' about on the river

Moorings and docks, tailors and locks
All messin' about on the river
Whirlpools and weirs that you must not go near
Messin' about on the river
Backwater places all hidden from view
Mysterious wee islands just waiting for you
So I'll leave you right now, go cast off your bow
Go messing about on the river


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Subject: Lyr Add: COOL RIVER (Kate and Ann McGarrigle)
From: Janie
Date: 30 Aug 06 - 10:25 PM

Kate and Ann McGarrigle wrote a contemporary song that Marie Mauldar recorded.

Cool River

Cool river, wash my tears away
Let your cool waves hide me from the day
It's the only way
Cool river hear my plea
Take me with you to the sea, to the sea

I've waded knee-high
In troubles not my own
Now that I'm sinking, I'm sinking all alone.
Cool river, wash my tears away
To the sea. To the sea.

I have tried praying
To God and his saints on high
But they don't hear me. I'm gonna kiss this world goodbye.
Cool river, wash my tears away
To the sea. To the sea
To the sea. To the sea.


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Genie
Date: 31 Aug 06 - 02:01 AM

Deep River Blues

And, of course, many spirituals and/or underground railroad songs that use rivers as metaphors. E.g.,
Deep River
Wade In The Water
A River In Judea

And other folk songs that use rivers/waters as other metaphors, e.g.,
The Water Is Wide


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Roberto
Date: 31 Aug 06 - 06:31 AM

Old Tar River


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Dave'sWife
Date: 31 Aug 06 - 08:19 AM

Mr_Fox - I thought I was the only one here who used words such as "twee". Good for you. It's an appropriate word when dealing with the type of group you described. besides myself, the only other person I ever saw use the word in print or heard use it conversation was science fiction writer Norman Spinrad. Great guy. Very bad temper. Great guy. I think he's an Ex-Pat still living in France. (Not that anyone cares)


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Subject: Lyr Add: MURRUMBIDGEE WATER (John Warner)
From: freda underhill
Date: 31 Aug 06 - 08:27 AM

MURRUMBIDGEE WATER
© John Warner 25.05.98

Written by John Warner for the song and verse cycle, Yarri of Wiradjuri. Murrumbidgee Water - the second song in the cycle - celebrates the river and its importance to the indigenous people and establishes the Murrumbidgee River and Morley's Creek as the Mother and the Daughter


Born in the highland snows,
Wild in her youth's descending,
Swiftly she fills and grows
Out on her floodplains, winding and bending,
Feeding the towering gums,
Bush in creek and gully,
Sharing her bounties wide,
Spreading soil in plain and valley.

Murrumbidgee fair, Murrumbidgee fertile,
Nurturing at your breasts we who walk here for a little while.
High on a ridge we stand, gazing in love and awe
Over the lands you made with your gentle hands: how rich the gifts you pour.

Over her years of floods,
Current twisting wild and strong,
Children she made in the land,
Creek and anabranch, pond and billabong.
Bright on the wide floodplain
Glints the rippling water,
Proudly side by side,
Flow the mother and the daughter.

Murrumbidgee fair, Murrumbidgee fertile,
Nurturing at your breasts we who walk here for a little while.
High on a ridge we stand, gazing in love and awe
Over the lands you made with your gentle hands: how rich the gifts you pour.

We have known the drought, we have seen her anger,
Hurling trees in her rage, we've borne thirst and we've borne hunger.
Yet for us who seek, beauty waits in hiding,
In some shaded pools wait the fruits of her providing.

Silver mist like hair,
As the day is dawning,
Marks the river's way
As we hunt on a winter's morning,
Duck and cod from the stream,
Fruit and fungus, plant and seed,
Kangaroo on the plain,
See, she gives us all we need.

Murrumbidgee fair, Murrumbidgee fertile,
Nurturing at your breasts we who walk here for a little while.
High on a ridge we stand, gazing in love and awe
Over the lands you made with your gentle hands: how rich the gifts you pour.


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Subject: Lyr Add: REEDY RIVER (Henry Lawson)
From: freda underhill
Date: 31 Aug 06 - 08:32 AM

REEDY RIVER
Henry Lawson

Ten miles down Reedy River a pool of water lies,
And all the year it mirrors the changes in the skies,
And in that pool's broad bosom is room for all the stars;
Its bed of sand has drifted o'er countless rocky bars.

Around the lower edges there waves a bed of reeds,
Where water rats are hidden and where the wild duck breeds;
And grassy slopes rise gently to ridges long and low,
Where groves of wattle flourish and native bluebells grow.

Beneath the granite ridges the eye may just discern
Where Rocky Creek emerges from deep green banks of fern;
And standing tall between them, the grassy sheoaks cool
The hard, blue-tinted waters before they reach the pool.

Ten miles down Reedy River one Sunday afternoon,
I rode with Mary Campbell to that broad bright lagoon;
We left our horses grazing till shadows climbed the peak,
And strolled beneath the sheoaks on the banks of Rocky Creek.

Then home along the river that night we rode a race,
And the moonlight lent a glory to Mary Campbell's face;
And I pleaded for my future all thro' that moonlight ride,
Until our weary horses drew closer side by side.

Ten miles from Ryan’s Crossing and five below the peak,
I built a little homestead on the banks of Rocky Creek;
I cleared the land and fenced it and ploughed the rich red loam,
And my first crop was golden when I brought Mary home.

Now still down Reedy River the grassy sheoaks sigh,
And the waterholes still mirror the pictures in the sky;
And over all for ever go sun and moon and stars,
While the golden sand is drifting across the rocky bars;

But of the hut I builded there are no traces now.
And many rains have levelled the furrows of the plough;
And my bright days are olden, for the twisted branches wave
And the wattle blossoms golden on the hill by Mary’s grave.


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Subject: Lyr Add: DOWN BY THE LIFFEYSIDE (Peadar Kearney)
From: Fergie
Date: 31 Aug 06 - 09:36 AM

And from the DT

DOWN BY THE LIFFEYSIDE
(Peadar Kearney)

'Twas down by Anna Liffey, my love and I did stray
Where in the good old slushy mud the sea gulls sport and play.
We got the whiff of ray and chips and Mary softly sighed,
"Oh John, come on for a wan and wan
Down by the Liffeyside."

Then down along by George's street the loving pairs to view
While Mary swanked it like a queen in a skirt of royal blue;
Her hat was lately turned and her blouse was newly dyed,
Oh you could not match her round the block,
Down by the Liffeyside.

And on her old melodeon how sweetly could she play.;
"Good-by-ee" and "Don't sigh-ee" and "Rule Brittanni-ay"
But when she turned Sinn Feiner me heart near burst with pride,
To hear her sing the "Soldier's Song",
Down by the Liffeyside.

On Sunday morning to Meath street together we will go,
And it's up to Father Murphy we both will make our vow.
We'll join our hands in wedlock bands and we'll be soon outside
For a whole afternoon, for our honeymoon,
Down by the Liffeyside.


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Mr Fox
Date: 01 Sep 06 - 08:01 AM

Mrs Dave - (Brief thread hijack) 'Twee' is a good word for a lot of 1970's folk acts (especially folk/rock and some singer/songwriters of the period).

Norman Spinrad was still alive and writing as of 2003 when his historical novel 'The Druid King' was published.

(Right - back to the rivers).......


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: BuckMulligan
Date: 01 Sep 06 - 09:45 AM

Surprised at no mention of John Hartford, "Let Him Go On Mama" and "Steamboat Whistle Blues" (and others, those are the ones that spring to mind).


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Genie
Date: 01 Sep 06 - 11:49 AM

Here are some of the other "@river" songs in the DT:

THE TOMBIGBEE RIVER (GUM TREE CANOE)
RIVER OF THE BIG CANOE
THE ROAD BY THE RIVER
DOWN THE RIVER (2)
RIVER OF JORDAN
DOWN THE RIVER
DOWN BY TOMS RIVER
THE RIVER
LIGHT AT THE RIVER
FLAT RIVER GIRL
THE RIVER LEA
ONE MORE RIVER
DRAGGING THE RIVER
NEW RIVER TRAIN
MIKE FINK
SHALL WE GATHER AT THE RIVER
ROLLING DOWN THE RIVER
DRIVING LOGS ON THE CASS
WHERE THE FRASER RIVER FLOWS
LIVING ON THE RIVER
LA BELLE RIVIERE
THIS OL' RIVERBOAT
SWEET THAMES FLOW SOFTLY
RIVERBOAT
RAFTSMAN`S SONG
PUSH BOAT
LAMOILLE RIVER
WILD MUSTARD RIVER
LITTLE RIVER
HUDSON RIVER STEAMER
DELAWARE RIVER
ROLLING TO CAIRO TOWN (ROUSTABOUT SONG)
ROLL ON, SASKATCHEWAN
THE JAM ON GERRY'S ROCKS
MONONGAHELA SAL
MICHAEL, ROW THE BOAT ASHORE
BIG MUDDY
THE BANKS OF SULLANE
RIVERS OF TEXAS
IF THE RIVER WAS WHISKEY
ESSIQUIBO RIVER
HOOD RIVER ROLL ON
THE DAM SONG
GOING DOWN THE RIVER
DON'T ASK WHAT A RIVER IS FOR
SAILING DOWN MY GOLDEN RIVER
THE WILD RIPPLING WATERS
STEAMBOAT BILL
THE OLD SHAWNEE
THE JAMESTOWN FLOOD
THE GREEN GRASSY SLOPES OF THE BOYNE
THE FERRYBANK PIPER
THE BANKS OF THE DEE
ANNAN WATER
AIN' NO MO' CANE ON DE BRAZIS
WHERE THE RIVER SHANNON FLOWS
PLAINS OF WATERLOO II
SAILING DOWN MY DIRTY STREAM
PEACE I ASK OF THEE OH RIVER
OH, MY ROLLING RIVER
MIGHTY MISSISSIPPI
THE GRAND COULEE DAM
FALL RIVER HOEDOWN (Lizzie Borden)
CONGO RIVER (2)
CONGO RIVER
DOWN BY THE RIVER
BANKS OF THE PLEASANT OHIO
WHITE WATER
SHE LIVED BESIDE THE ANNER
SHANTY BOY ON THE BIG EAU CLAIRE
YE BANKS AND BRAES (O' Bonny Doon)
WEEL MAY THE KEEL ROW
RAGING CANOE
THE RAGING CANAL (TWO IN THE MIDDLE)
THE RAFTSMEN
POOR BOY
A PICTURE FROM LIFE'S OTHER SIDE
STREAMS OF LOVELY NANCY
ROW ON
THE ROSE (Some say love, it is a river ...)
RIO GRANDE
A REFRAIN OF THE RED RIVER PLANTATION
ON THE BANKS OF THE OLD PEDEE
OLD FOLKS AT HOME (Swanee River)
OH, THE WIND AND RAIN (The Two Sisters)
IT'S THE SAME THE WHOLE WORLD OVER (3) (... when they fished 'er from the river...)
THE MOTHER'S MALISON (Clyde's Water)
THE MEETING OF THE WATERS OF HUDSON & ERIE
THE MEETING OF THE WATERS (original)
THE MAID OF MOURNE SHORE
THE GUM TREE CANOE
THE GREEN MOSSY BANKS OF THE LEA
GOSPEL BOAT
JOHN O' DREAMS
THE FERRYMAN
ERIN'S FLOWERY VALE
EN MONTANT LA RIVIERE
THE HIPPOPOTAMUS SONG (on the banks of the cool Shalimar)
DE BOATMAN DANCE
FORTY SHADES OF GREEN
BINNORIE (TWO SISTERS)
BANKS OF THE LITTLE EAU PLEINE
THE BANKS OF THE LEE
THE BANKS OF THE BANN
ALL QUIET ALONG THE POTOMAC



and not from this DT search, but I could add
"Ferry 'Cross the Mersey"
and
"Somos El Barco"


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: LadyJean
Date: 02 Sep 06 - 12:39 AM

Azizzi, your song sounds like part of one my mother knew from a review called, "As Thousands Cheer". So, check that out.

No one has mentioned Robert Schmertz's classic "Monongahela Sal" "Roll on Monongahela, roll on to the Ohio. You used to be so pure. Now you're just a sewer, dirtying up the Gulf of Mexico."

Or the Girl Scout classic, "Peace I ask of thee oh river, peace, peace peace. When I learn to live serenely, cares will cease. From the hills I gather courage, visions of the day to be. Strength to lead and faith to follow, all are given unto me." Which is probably the work of some Girl Scout leader.


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: GrassStains
Date: 02 Sep 06 - 01:01 AM

Rusty Old Red River is a great song, IMO. For some reason there is a free download on Amazon.com of Anne Hills singing that song.

Carol


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Barry Finn
Date: 02 Sep 06 - 03:53 AM

Hey Genie
You left out a few

The Yellow River - I.P. Daly
The Brown River - R.U. Sheedy
Cry Me A River - Julie London
Hell Of A Wedding On The Congo - BWI
The Banks Of The River Charles - Boston
The Banks Of The Ellen - Ellenor?
Old Tar River - Georgia Outer Banks
Over The Water To Charlie - Jacobite
River of Baballon - sp?
Jam on Gerry's Rock - lumber
The Banks of teh Gaspereaux - lumber
By the Banks of Red Roses - love more than river?
On the Banks of the Ole Tennessee - steamin
Ohio River So Deep & Wide - paddlewheelin

The 1st two, just jokin

Good nite
Barry


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Genie
Date: 02 Sep 06 - 08:23 AM

My list was from the DT, Barry.   I left off at least half of what my "search" turned up, because the "river" connection was either minor or unclear, but I did include The Jam On Gerry's Rock.

I like your 1st two suggestions. LOL Probably from the Boy Scout (unofficial) songbook, eh?

Speaking of Amazon, GrassStains, there must be some songs about that one two.

Which reminds me, has anyone mentioned "Song Of The Volga Boatman?"


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Genie
Date: 02 Sep 06 - 08:25 AM

What's the name of that pop song about the Charles River that goes "Oh I love that dirty water. Boston, you're my home"?


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Subject: River Songs: La Seine
From: Genie
Date: 02 Sep 06 - 08:37 AM

Here's a French song I've known for decades.   I guess the title is "La Seine," but I'm not sure.

Elle recou-le, -cou-le, -cou-le
Quand il entre dans Paris.
Elle s'en rou-le, rou-le, rou-le
Autour de ses quais fleuris.
Elle se chan-te, chan-te, chan-te,
Chante le jour et la nuit,
Car La Seine est une amante
Et son amour, c'est Paris!

I think it's from the 1940s or 1950s, sung by one of those pop chanteuses (not Piaf, IIRC, but I could be wrong).   I'm not having any luck googling it.


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Subject: Lyr Add: LA SEINE (recorded by Jacqueline François
From: Genie
Date: 02 Sep 06 - 08:57 AM

Found it. It was recorded by Jacqueline François.

For those who don't know French, this is a very sensual song describing La Seine as the paramour of the city of Paris, e.g., "She sings, sings, sings, sings, sings day and night, For the Seine is a lover and her lover is Paris" or (last verse) "... for the Seine is a lover and Paris sleeps in her bed."

LA SEINE

La Seine est aventureuse
De Châtillon à Méry,
Et son humeur voyageuse
Flâne à travers le pays ...
Elle se fait langoureuse
De Juvisy à Choisy
Pour aborder, l'âme heureuse,
L'amoureux qu'elle a choisi!

Elle roucoule, coule, coule
Dès qu'elle entre dans Paris!
Elle s'enroule, roule, roule
Autour de ses quais fleuris!
Elle chante, chante, chante, chante,
Chant' le jour et la nuit,
Car la Seine est une amante
Et son amant c'est Paris !

Elle traîne d'île en île,
Caressant le Vieux Paris,
Elle ouvre ses bras dociles
Au sourire du roi Henri...
Indifférente aux édiles
De la mairie de Paris,
Elle court vers les idylles
Des amants des Tuileries!

Elle roucoule, coule, coule
Du Pont-Neuf jusqu'à Passy!
Elle est soûle, soûle, soûle
Au souvenir de Bercy!
Elle chante, chante, chante, chante,
Chant' le jour et la nuit...
Si sa marche est zigzagante
C'est qu'elle est grise à Paris!

Mais la Seine est paresseuse,
En passant près de Neuilly,
Ah ! comme elles est malheureuse
De quitter son bel ami!
Dans un étreinte amoureuse
Elle enlace encore Paris,
Pour lui laisser, généreuse,
Une boucle ... à Saint-Denis!

Elle roucoule, coule, coule
Sa complainte dans la nuit...
Elle roule, roule, roule
Vers la mer où tout finit...
Elle chante, chante, chante, chante,
Chant' l'amour de Paris!
Car la Seine est une amante
Et Paris dort dans son lit!


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: GUEST,bobkenton
Date: 05 Sep 06 - 01:11 PM

I'd like to recommend the lovely, cool, meandering, groovy 'The River' by Terry Reid.
I've been planning a 'river' song compilation: here are some others I've thought of:
2 songs by Randy Newman: 'Louisiana 1927' and 'Burn on, Big River' from 'Good Old Boys'
A song on John Martyn's 'Bless the Weather' called something like 'Back to the River'
'Yes, the River Knows' by the Doors (Waiting For the Sun)
Many Rivers to Cross - Jimmy Cliff
Train and the River, by Jimmy Giuffre
I cast my net wide and include 'The Rio Grande', a great jazzy choral piece by Constant Lambert from a Sachaverell Sitwell poem (1920s), and Schubert's Die Forelle (the Trout, the song, or the adaptation of its melody in the eponymous piano quintet).

Why not?


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Cromdubh
Date: 05 Sep 06 - 03:33 PM

Proud Mary by Creedence

Only the rivers by Mickey McConnell


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: KenBrock
Date: 05 Sep 06 - 03:42 PM

"River, She Come Down" recorded by The Journeymen
"Of Time and Rivers Flowing" - Pete Seeger, 1973
"Muddy Water", Roger Miller, from BIG RIVER


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: GUEST,camille
Date: 03 Jun 10 - 10:26 AM

Rain and the River.....that song takes me back to junior high music class around 1962. That was one cool song. In our class the boys sang the first two lines..."river looks black with the shadows on it"... then the girls sang ...."mighty black sky with the clouds above"..then the boys again sang..."still I ain't scared of the rain doggonit, river and rain are the things I love"... then in unison for the rest. We never learned the part about the levee and so on. This was in Indianapolis at an integrated school with a white music teacher. I always loved this song but couldn't find anyone else who remembered it, so thank you and thanks to Google.


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Art Thieme
Date: 03 Jun 10 - 02:23 PM

My cassette called ON THE RIVER is one I recorded in 2 hours because I needed a recording to sell passengers on the Julia Belle Swain where I sang for a decade-- on the Mississippi River mainly-- the Illinois River too. The passengers back then, 1986 to 1997, did nor know about or want CDs---just cassettes.

I fleshed it out with live recordings from old shows of mine to be a CD for Sandy Paton on Folk Legacy Records---but it never came to fruition. (I sure do miss Sandy.) I did tell Sandy that if it came out, I wanted it to be my gift to Caroline and him.
Below is what I was thinking might be included in the CD called Art Thieme--On The River CD.

Mike Fink's Bet (a short tall tale)
Stackerlee
Bayou Sara
Julia Belle Swain Blues (by me)
Lost Jimmie Whalen (lumberjack tragedy on the river)
What Does The Deep Sea Say
Banks Of Ponchartrain
Goin' To Cairo
Rock River Valley (by me)
Diamond Jo (about the Steamboat Diamond Jo)
The State Of Illinois
Waterbound
Down By The Embarrass (by Win Stracke)
The Big Catfish (tall tale)
Shanty Boy On The Big Eau Claire
Is Your Lamps Gone Out
A Lock And Dam Tale (another tall tale)
Annie Christmas (tall tale)/Catfish John
Minimizing hard times with tall tales (spoken)
9-Pound Hammer/Big River (by Johnny Cash)
The BILLDAD (a tall tale)
Shenandoah
The Great Turtle Drive/Red River Valley (musical saw)
The Red River Shore (river variant of a Child Ballad)


I hope some of these ideas might help.
Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Art Thieme
Date: 03 Jun 10 - 02:26 PM

Whew, I just realized that this thread dates from 1998!

Well, never mind, then. Can't believe I just typed this all out!!

Sorry,

Art


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Joe_F
Date: 03 Jun 10 - 06:40 PM

There are many flood songs among the blues. Black people's houses were among the first to go. I'd have to paw thru my records to find the titles, tho.


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego
Date: 04 Jun 10 - 06:33 PM

The amazing thing is that more river songs have not been written. Rivers are such enduring symbols and many have melodious names as well. Just in my personal experience in the western U.S., I know the Snake, the Virgin, the Animas, Green, Walker, Kaweah, Kings, Kern, Colorado, Gila, San Joaquin, American, Sacramento, Russian and dozens of others, large and small. Unless you live in an arid, treeless plain, you likely have one near you. Many have colorful histories as well. Maybe some will be inspired to contribute a song or two of their own.


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: GUEST,Elisabeth
Date: 04 Jun 10 - 07:10 PM

What about 'Only Our Rivers Run Free'? The Irish Tenors' version is wonderful.

Try this: 'River Robin.' Worth looking up the film it was written for, Heart of the Golden West, just to hear the Hall Johnson Choir sing with Roy Rogers and the Sons of the Pioneers.

Also, 'Where the Rio Rolls Along,' another Pioneer song. Excerpt here.


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: freda underhill
Date: 05 Jun 10 - 07:34 AM

John Warner's wonderful song, Murrumbidgee Water, about the Murrumbidgee river in Victoria, can be heard here if you click on the CDs link.


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: open mike
Date: 27 Dec 10 - 03:49 PM

Bamboo...

you take a stick of bamboo (repeat X2)
you throw it on the water

oh, oh, Hannah

CH river, she come down (X2)

my home's across the river, (repeat X2)
My home's across the water


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Bobert
Date: 27 Dec 10 - 08:07 PM

Couple of my favorites:

"The River" by Dan Fogleburg (very pretty song, very pretty...)

and

"Big Muddy" by Bruce Springsteen...

I'm sure that someone has already mentions Neil Young's "Down by the River" and the gospel/blues song "Wade in the Water"...

B~


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Trapper
Date: 28 Dec 10 - 10:06 AM

I wrote a song called "Confluence" for a wedding. Here it is.

- Al


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: GUEST,Frank
Date: 28 Dec 10 - 11:55 PM

Surely someone's mentioned "Moon River" from "Breakfast at Tiffany's".

I must have missed it, and don't call me Shirley.


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: GUEST,Bob Shutt
Date: 02 Jun 12 - 10:02 PM

I sang this song in college glee club (50 years ago). My fragmented and probably scuffled sequence recollection goes:

River looks black with the shadows on it
Mighty black clouds in the sky above.
Still I aint scared of the rain doggone it.
River and rain are the things I love.

Rain, pour down on me,
I'm happy as I can be.
For I love the rain and I love the river.   
(cant recall this line)

Let the river take the cabin and the flood soak the ground.
I'll build another cabin when the food goes down.

What do I care if the cloud get stormy
What do I care if the rain should fall.
River's my pal,and the rain's my buddy.
(not this line either)


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: GUEST,Beverly howard
Date: 18 Aug 12 - 11:06 PM

I also sang river looks black with the shadows on it way back in the early 60s. Would love to know it's origins and all the words.


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Elmore
Date: 19 Aug 12 - 09:14 PM

Then, there's "paddling Down the Rahway" by the sublime Kim Wallach.


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Haruo
Date: 20 Aug 12 - 12:27 AM

My niece drove us from Seattle to Walla Walla and back last week, and each time we crossed the Columbia (four times in total) we sang the chorus to "Roll On, Columbia" all the way across. There's a good one about the Willamette, too, but I'm drawing a blank.


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Haruo
Date: 20 Aug 12 - 03:30 PM

Roll, Willamette River, roll down to the sea,
Roll, Willamette River, down through your green country

or something like that

It's driving me and Mrs. Haruo (rootbeer) up a wall not being able to find it in either personal memory, CD collection, or online...


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Mar 13 - 04:17 PM

Rain and the River. I, too, remember this song from my high school   days
I;ve wondered what its origin was. The first person who mentioned it made it sound like a spiritual, but the arrangement I recall was a bit theatrical like "Ole Man River". I thought it (Rain & River) too was from a musical, but I have never seen it mentioned anywhere except this "river string" It comes to mind and I sing it sometimes in my truck when storm clouds billow up.


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: GUEST
Date: 06 May 13 - 07:58 PM

I arrived at this thread trying to find the lyrics to the unnamed Rain and the River song that people keep referring to. I also learned this song in High School choir and whenever we get a storm the words just flow through my brain! :)


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: GUEST,guest
Date: 06 May 13 - 11:54 PM

Our folk club just had a river-themed songcircle evening last month and I've posted on our website all the songs sung.
http://www.folksongsociety.org/VFSS%20Songcircle%20Song%20Lists.html

Apologies if any of the titles are wrong; I just go by what the singer tells me!


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Haruo
Date: 07 May 13 - 11:13 AM

So, guest, is that Vancouver or Victoria? Those sound like wonderful songcircles, almost makes me want to take a day off for the commute.


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: GUEST,sciencegeek
Date: 07 May 13 - 11:59 AM

Mike wrote this song some time ago, after reading "Goodbye to a River" - a book by John Graves, published in 1960. It is a "semi-historical" account of a canoe trip made by the author during the fall of 1957 down a stretch of the Brazos River in North Central Texas, between Possum Kingdom Dam and Lake Whitney that was slated to have as many as 13 dams built along it. He really needs to sing this one more often... sigh.

GOODBYE TO THE RIVER

He went back to the river with his Old Town canoe, that his father had bought when they both were young
He put in his pack, with his rod and his tack and his 12 gauge Remington gun
He watches the pup run along by the shore
Everything's wondrous and new
Thinks of old times and seasons of change Remembers when he was young too

River of darkness, river of light, river so wild and free
Out from the hills 'cross the West Texas plains, rolling down to the sea.

The sounds of the river flow thru his mind, like the stories his grandfather told
And clouds drift by on November's winds, life and the river move slow
Darkness surrounds him with the coming of night
The pup is asleep by the warm fireside
As the embers sparkle and flicker and fly
As they dance their dance cross the sky

River of hardship, river of strife, river so wild and free
Out from the hills 'cross the West Texas plains, rolling down to the sea

He pulls into the reeds at dawn's early light, the canvasbacks fly on their way
He picks up his gun, then puts it back down, there'll be no killing today
As the panorama before unfolds,
A tapestry woven in silvers an golds
A vision of life that few will see
And he feels wild and free

River of history, river of life, river so wild and free
Out from the hills 'cross the West Texas plains, rolling down to the sea

He climbs the embankment to get to the road, hitch into town, and gives a call home
I'll be back in a while ,but I don't know quite when, I'll be on the river 'till then
For they're building the dams at Monk and Shalan,
And everything south of the Possum King Dam
Will no longer be wild, and no longer be free
As it slowly flows to the sea

River of darkness, river of light, hardship and toil, history and life
Meandering memories abide every bend
He's saying good-bye to the river
He's saying good-by to a friend


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: GUEST
Date: 07 May 13 - 02:12 PM

We're the Vancouver Folk Song Society and we'd love to have you at our songcircles anytime, Haruo.

Our themed songcircles have become so popular that last time we had insufficient space for everyone to sit and join in!

Future themes (and other events) are always posted on our calendar.

http://www.folksongsociety.org/VFSS%20calendar.html

I've already begun posting the themes for the fall.

Where are you that you're within a day's commute of Vancouver/Victoria?


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Haruo
Date: 07 May 13 - 03:29 PM

Skyway, just SE of Seattle. It's unlikely I'll be up anytime soon, but you never know. I have my passport. ;-) Will be going (unexpectedly) to Oaxaca next month, looking forward to some Mazatec hill music there, and there will doubtless be some sing-alongs at NOREK (Esperanto regional meeting) on Vancouver Island in September. Looks like your songcircles are generally on Wednesdays, and as luck would have it I generally have Wednesday and Thursday off, which would make that an ideal evening to be out of town... We'll see...

Haruo


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Airymouse
Date: 07 May 13 - 05:23 PM

Shawnee Town (Way down the Ohio to Shawnee Town)
On the banks of the Merrimesee (Some Canadian mudcat can correct my spelling)
Down by the Salley Gardens (In a field by the by the RIVER, my love and I did stand)


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 08 May 13 - 04:52 AM

A quick trip round Scotland:
Both Sides the Tweed
Braw Lads o Gala Water
Annan Water
Ye Banks and Braes o Bonnie Doon
The Banks of Nith
The Banks of the Devon
Song of the Clyde
Fairfield Crane
Smugglers
The Shores of the Forth
The Last of the Ferries
Guiding Light
The Silvery Tay
Newport Braes
Back o Bennachie ( Dee and Don)
Braes o Sutherland ( Oykel)
Roving Ploughboy ( Deveron)
and probably a good few more I've missed! (And another whole lot re Lochs!)


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: kendall
Date: 08 May 13 - 06:33 AM

The jam at Gerry's rock.On the Machias river.
Oh you Mississippi River, with waters so deep and wide;
my thoughts of you keep rising, just like an evening tide. (Jimmy Rodgers, Hank Snow).

That line from American Pie...drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry...I used to think that was just silly contrived lame poetry, but then someone told me that in this case the Levee is the name of a bar.
I still don't know.

Rolling river, take me away,
I heard you travel on to a brighter day,
I want to ride upon the crest of some young wave...(David Mallett)


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 08 May 13 - 07:33 AM

This is the nicest River Song I know. :-)

DtG


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Haruo
Date: 10 May 13 - 12:19 AM

In Esperanto we have (from the Scottish Gaelic, I think; it's Hebridean anyhow) Vokas la rivero (MIDI).

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the Lorelei.

Haruo


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