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River Songs

LadyJean 02 Sep 06 - 12:39 AM
Genie 01 Sep 06 - 11:49 AM
BuckMulligan 01 Sep 06 - 09:45 AM
Mr Fox 01 Sep 06 - 08:01 AM
Fergie 31 Aug 06 - 09:36 AM
freda underhill 31 Aug 06 - 08:32 AM
freda underhill 31 Aug 06 - 08:27 AM
Dave'sWife 31 Aug 06 - 08:19 AM
Roberto 31 Aug 06 - 06:31 AM
Genie 31 Aug 06 - 02:01 AM
Janie 30 Aug 06 - 10:25 PM
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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: LadyJean
Date: 02 Sep 06 - 12:39 AM

Azizzi, your song sounds like part of one my mother knew from a review called, "As Thousands Cheer". So, check that out.

No one has mentioned Robert Schmertz's classic "Monongahela Sal" "Roll on Monongahela, roll on to the Ohio. You used to be so pure. Now you're just a sewer, dirtying up the Gulf of Mexico."

Or the Girl Scout classic, "Peace I ask of thee oh river, peace, peace peace. When I learn to live serenely, cares will cease. From the hills I gather courage, visions of the day to be. Strength to lead and faith to follow, all are given unto me." Which is probably the work of some Girl Scout leader.


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Genie
Date: 01 Sep 06 - 11:49 AM

Here are some of the other "@river" songs in the DT:

A PICTURE FROM LIFE'S OTHER SIDE
A REFRAIN OF THE RED RIVER PLANTATION
AIN' NO MO' CANE ON DE BRAZIS
ALL QUIET ALONG THE POTOMAC
ANNAN WATER
BANKS OF THE LITTLE EAU PLEINE
BANKS OF THE PLEASANT OHIO
BIG MUDDY
BINNORIE (TWO SISTERS)
CONGO RIVER
CONGO RIVER (2)
DE BOATMAN DANCE
DELAWARE RIVER
DON'T ASK WHAT A RIVER IS FOR
DOWN BY THE RIVER
DOWN BY TOMS RIVER
DOWN THE RIVER
DOWN THE RIVER (2)
DRAGGING THE RIVER
DRIVING LOGS ON THE CASS
EN MONTANT LA RIVIERE
ERIN'S FLOWERY VALE
ESSIQUIBO RIVER
FALL RIVER HOEDOWN (Lizzie Borden)
FLAT RIVER GIRL
FORTY SHADES OF GREEN
GOING DOWN THE RIVER
GOSPEL BOAT
HOOD RIVER ROLL ON
HUDSON RIVER STEAMER
IF THE RIVER WAS WHISKEY
IT'S THE SAME THE WHOLE WORLD OVER (3) (... when they fished 'er from the river...)
JOHN O' DREAMS
LA BELLE RIVIERE
LAMOILLE RIVER
LIGHT AT THE RIVER
LITTLE RIVER
LIVING ON THE RIVER
MICHAEL, ROW THE BOAT ASHORE
MIGHTY MISSISSIPPI
MIKE FINK
MONONGAHELA SAL
NEW RIVER TRAIN
OH, MY ROLLING RIVER
OH, THE WIND AND RAIN (The Two Sisters)
OLD FOLKS AT HOME (Swanee River)
ON THE BANKS OF THE OLD PEDEE
ONE MORE RIVER
PEACE I ASK OF THEE OH RIVER
PLAINS OF WATERLOO II
POOR BOY
PUSH BOAT
RAFTSMAN`S SONG
RAGING CANOE
RIO GRANDE
RIVER OF JORDAN
RIVER OF THE BIG CANOE
RIVERBOAT
RIVERS OF TEXAS
ROLL ON, SASKATCHEWAN
ROLLING DOWN THE RIVER
ROLLING TO CAIRO TOWN (ROUSTABOUT SONG)
ROW ON
SAILING DOWN MY DIRTY STREAM
SAILING DOWN MY GOLDEN RIVER
SHALL WE GATHER AT THE RIVER
SHANTY BOY ON THE BIG EAU CLAIRE
SHE LIVED BESIDE THE ANNER
STEAMBOAT BILL
STREAMS OF LOVELY NANCY
SWEET THAMES FLOW SOFTLY
THE BANKS OF SULLANE
THE BANKS OF THE BANN
THE BANKS OF THE DEE
THE BANKS OF THE LEE
THE DAM SONG
THE FERRYBANK PIPER
THE FERRYMAN
THE GRAND COULEE DAM
THE GREEN GRASSY SLOPES OF THE BOYNE
THE GREEN MOSSY BANKS OF THE LEA
THE GUM TREE CANOE
THE HIPPOPOTAMUS SONG (on the banks of the cool Shalimar)
THE JAM ON GERRY'S ROCKS
THE JAMESTOWN FLOOD
THE MAID OF MOURNE SHORE
THE MEETING OF THE WATERS (original)
THE MEETING OF THE WATERS OF HUDSON & ERIE
THE MOTHER'S MALISON (Clyde's Water)
THE OLD SHAWNEE
THE RAFTSMEN
THE RAGING CANAL (TWO IN THE MIDDLE)
THE RIVER
THE RIVER LEA
THE ROAD BY THE RIVER
THE ROSE (Some say love, it is a river ...)
THE TOMBIGBEE RIVER (GUM TREE CANOE)
THE WILD RIPPLING WATERS
THIS OL' RIVERBOAT
WEEL MAY THE KEEL ROW
WHERE THE FRASER RIVER FLOWS
WHERE THE RIVER SHANNON FLOWS
WHITE WATER
WILD MUSTARD RIVER
YE BANKS AND BRAES (O' Bonny Doon)

and not from this DT search, but I could add
"Ferry 'Cross the Mersey"
and "Somos El Barco"


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: BuckMulligan
Date: 01 Sep 06 - 09:45 AM

Surprised at no mention of John Hartford, "Let Him Go On Mama" and "Steamboat Whistle Blues" (and others, those are the ones that spring to mind).


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Mr Fox
Date: 01 Sep 06 - 08:01 AM

Mrs Dave - (Brief thread hijack) 'Twee' is a good word for a lot of 1970's folk acts (especially folk/rock and some singer/songwriters of the period).

Norman Spinrad was still alive and writing as of 2003 when his historical novel 'The Druid King' was published.

(Right - back to the rivers).......


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Subject: Lyr Add: DOWN BY THE LIFFEYSIDE (Peadar Kearney)
From: Fergie
Date: 31 Aug 06 - 09:36 AM

And from the DT

DOWN BY THE LIFFEYSIDE
(Peadar Kearney)

'Twas down by Anna Liffey, my love and I did stray
Where in the good old slushy mud the sea gulls sport and play.
We got the whiff of ray and chips and Mary softly sighed,
"Oh John, come on for a wan and wan
Down by the Liffeyside."

Then down along by George's street the loving pairs to view
While Mary swanked it like a queen in a skirt of royal blue;
Her hat was lately turned and her blouse was newly dyed,
Oh you could not match her round the block,
Down by the Liffeyside.

And on her old melodeon how sweetly could she play.;
"Good-by-ee" and "Don't sigh-ee" and "Rule Brittanni-ay"
But when she turned Sinn Feiner me heart near burst with pride,
To hear her sing the "Soldier's Song",
Down by the Liffeyside.

On Sunday morning to Meath street together we will go,
And it's up to Father Murphy we both will make our vow.
We'll join our hands in wedlock bands and we'll be soon outside
For a whole afternoon, for our honeymoon,
Down by the Liffeyside.


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Subject: Lyr Add: REEDY RIVER (Henry Lawson)
From: freda underhill
Date: 31 Aug 06 - 08:32 AM

REEDY RIVER
Henry Lawson

Ten miles down Reedy River a pool of water lies,
And all the year it mirrors the changes in the skies,
And in that pool's broad bosom is room for all the stars;
Its bed of sand has drifted o'er countless rocky bars.

Around the lower edges there waves a bed of reeds,
Where water rats are hidden and where the wild duck breeds;
And grassy slopes rise gently to ridges long and low,
Where groves of wattle flourish and native bluebells grow.

Beneath the granite ridges the eye may just discern
Where Rocky Creek emerges from deep green banks of fern;
And standing tall between them, the grassy sheoaks cool
The hard, blue-tinted waters before they reach the pool.

Ten miles down Reedy River one Sunday afternoon,
I rode with Mary Campbell to that broad bright lagoon;
We left our horses grazing till shadows climbed the peak,
And strolled beneath the sheoaks on the banks of Rocky Creek.

Then home along the river that night we rode a race,
And the moonlight lent a glory to Mary Campbell's face;
And I pleaded for my future all thro' that moonlight ride,
Until our weary horses drew closer side by side.

Ten miles from Ryan’s Crossing and five below the peak,
I built a little homestead on the banks of Rocky Creek;
I cleared the land and fenced it and ploughed the rich red loam,
And my first crop was golden when I brought Mary home.

Now still down Reedy River the grassy sheoaks sigh,
And the waterholes still mirror the pictures in the sky;
And over all for ever go sun and moon and stars,
While the golden sand is drifting across the rocky bars;

But of the hut I builded there are no traces now.
And many rains have levelled the furrows of the plough;
And my bright days are olden, for the twisted branches wave
And the wattle blossoms golden on the hill by Mary’s grave.


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Subject: Lyr Add: MURRUMBIDGEE WATER (John Warner)
From: freda underhill
Date: 31 Aug 06 - 08:27 AM

MURRUMBIDGEE WATER
© John Warner 25.05.98

Written by John Warner for the song and verse cycle, Yarri of Wiradjuri. Murrumbidgee Water - the second song in the cycle - celebrates the river and its importance to the indigenous people and establishes the Murrumbidgee River and Morley's Creek as the Mother and the Daughter


Born in the highland snows,
Wild in her youth's descending,
Swiftly she fills and grows
Out on her floodplains, winding and bending,
Feeding the towering gums,
Bush in creek and gully,
Sharing her bounties wide,
Spreading soil in plain and valley.

Murrumbidgee fair, Murrumbidgee fertile,
Nurturing at your breasts we who walk here for a little while.
High on a ridge we stand, gazing in love and awe
Over the lands you made with your gentle hands: how rich the gifts you pour.

Over her years of floods,
Current twisting wild and strong,
Children she made in the land,
Creek and anabranch, pond and billabong.
Bright on the wide floodplain
Glints the rippling water,
Proudly side by side,
Flow the mother and the daughter.

Murrumbidgee fair, Murrumbidgee fertile,
Nurturing at your breasts we who walk here for a little while.
High on a ridge we stand, gazing in love and awe
Over the lands you made with your gentle hands: how rich the gifts you pour.

We have known the drought, we have seen her anger,
Hurling trees in her rage, we've borne thirst and we've borne hunger.
Yet for us who seek, beauty waits in hiding,
In some shaded pools wait the fruits of her providing.

Silver mist like hair,
As the day is dawning,
Marks the river's way
As we hunt on a winter's morning,
Duck and cod from the stream,
Fruit and fungus, plant and seed,
Kangaroo on the plain,
See, she gives us all we need.

Murrumbidgee fair, Murrumbidgee fertile,
Nurturing at your breasts we who walk here for a little while.
High on a ridge we stand, gazing in love and awe
Over the lands you made with your gentle hands: how rich the gifts you pour.


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Dave'sWife
Date: 31 Aug 06 - 08:19 AM

Mr_Fox - I thought I was the only one here who used words such as "twee". Good for you. It's an appropriate word when dealing with the type of group you described. besides myself, the only other person I ever saw use the word in print or heard use it conversation was science fiction writer Norman Spinrad. Great guy. Very bad temper. Great guy. I think he's an Ex-Pat still living in France. (Not that anyone cares)


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Roberto
Date: 31 Aug 06 - 06:31 AM

Old Tar River


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Genie
Date: 31 Aug 06 - 02:01 AM

Deep River Blues

And, of course, many spirituals and/or underground railroad songs that use rivers as metaphors. E.g.,
Deep River
Wade in the Water
A River in Judea

And other folk songs that use rivers/waters as other metaphors, e.g.,
The Water Is Wide


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Subject: Lyr Add: COOL RIVER (Kate and Ann McGarrigle)
From: Janie
Date: 30 Aug 06 - 10:25 PM

Kate and Ann McGarrigle wrote a contemporary song that Marie Mauldar recorded.

Cool River

Cool river, wash my tears away
Let your cool waves hide me from the day
It's the only way
Cool river hear my plea
Take me with you to the sea, to the sea

I've waded knee-high
In troubles not my own
Now that I'm sinking, I'm sinking all alone.
Cool river, wash my tears away
To the sea. To the sea.

I have tried praying
To God and his saints on high
But they don't hear me. I'm gonna kiss this world goodbye.
Cool river, wash my tears away
To the sea. To the sea
To the sea. To the sea.


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Subject: Lyr Add: MESSING ABOUT ON THE RIVER
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 30 Aug 06 - 04:54 PM

My all time fav river song....(and the naughty version ;-)

MESSING ABOUT ON THE RIVER
(Tony Hatch / Les Reed)

Josh MacRae - 1962
Danny Kyle - 1998


When the weather is fine you know it's the time
For messin' about on the river
If you take my advice there's nothing so nice
As messin' about on the river
There's big boats and wee boats ands all kinds of craft
Puffers and keel boats and some with no raft
With the wind in your face there's no finer place
Than messin' about on the river

There are boats made from kits that'll reach you in bits
For messin' about on the river
And you might want to skull in a glass fibred hull
Go messin' about on the river
Anchors and tillers and rudders and cleets
Ropes that are sometimes referred to as sheets
With the wind in your face there's no finer place
Than messin' about on the river

Skippers and mates and rowing club eights
All messin' about on the river
Capstans and quays where you tie up with ease
All messin' about on the river
Outboards and inboards and dinghies you sail
The first thing you learn is the right way to bale
In a one man canoe you're both skipper and crew
Messin' about on the river

Moorings and docks, tailors and locks
All messin' about on the river
Whirlpools and weirs that you must not go near
Messin' about on the river
Backwater places all hidden from view
Mysterious wee islands just waiting for you
So I'll leave you right now, go cast off your bow
Go messing about on the river


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: KenBrock
Date: 30 Aug 06 - 03:41 PM

Pete Seeger: "Sailing Down my Golden River".
Bob Zentz also has a song about the James and Elizabeth Rivers in VA, "Window on the River" or something similar.
There was also a song about the Kepone pollution in the James River 25 years ago: PPM (Parts Per Million).


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: KenBrock
Date: 30 Aug 06 - 03:25 PM

Mason Williams (best known as head writer for The Smother Brothers and for "Classical Gas") recorded an album of River songs in 1984: OF TIME AND RIVERS FLOWING, drawn from a larger group that he collected for performance circa 1982. Info:
http://www.masonwilliams-online.com/perfotrf.html


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Mr Fox
Date: 30 Aug 06 - 09:14 AM

I remember (However hard I try not to) a 1970's folk-rock 'concept album' entitled 'When God's on the Water - A Musical Journey Down a River from Source to Sea'. It was TERRIBLE. I still sometimes wake up in a cold sweat having had a flashback of the heavy rock treatment of 'Marrowbones'.

The band involved (Which had some unpronouncable and pretentiously twee 'folky' name, as I recall) actually got a contract for a second album from a (presumably tone-deaf) producer but after that thankfully vanished into the 'where are they now?' bin.


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Roberto
Date: 29 Aug 06 - 03:48 PM

Percy Mayfield: The River's Invitation


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Genie
Date: 29 Aug 06 - 03:37 PM

Does "Gently Down the Stream of Time" count?


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: GUEST,banjoman
Date: 29 Aug 06 - 06:30 AM

What about the Ohio Boatman's Song or on a more mundane note Ferry 'cross the Mersey - River of no return - The Humber Bridge song - By the Rivers of Babylon etc etc


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Subject: Lyr Add: THAT SONG ABOUT THE RIVER
From: Amos
Date: 28 Aug 06 - 10:43 PM

THAT SONG ABOUT THE RIVER
Words and music by Steve Gillette and Charles John Quarto
(c)Copyright 1990, Foreshadow Songs, BMI

I've seen the paddlewheelers rollin' south on a summer's day
I've seen lovers at the guardrails with stars in their lemonade.
And I've heard the hobos gather, heard their banjos grace the glade
Heard them sing about the river called it the lazy man's parade.

CHORUS: Sing me that song about the river, green goin' away.
I always did feel like a drifter, about this time of day.

Last night I stood by the highway, pretended I was on my way.
You know a hundred thousand headlights couldn't match the milky way.
And when the moonlight touches the water, surely something touches me,
And I go reaching for the river, like it,s reaching for the sea.

Some things go on forever, the truth don't ever stray
The wind may brush the water but the river holds her sway.


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Amos
Date: 28 Aug 06 - 10:37 PM

DW:

Be delighted -- but you'll have to larn me how it goes...

A


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Genie
Date: 28 Aug 06 - 10:28 PM

erinmaidin, those are the lyrics to Bill's song "River," which some of us have listed above. It's a great song!


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: GUEST,Mary V.
Date: 28 Aug 06 - 09:41 PM

I didn't see Down by the Riverside!


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Subject: Lyr Add: RIVER (Bill Staines)
From: erinmaidin
Date: 28 Aug 06 - 06:51 AM

I was born in the path of the winter wind,
Raised where the mountains are old --
Their springtime waters came dancing down,
And I remember the tales they told.

The whistling ways of my younger days
Too quickly have faded on by,
But all of their memories linger on
Like the light in a fading sky.

River, take me along,
In your sunshine, sing me a song,
Ever moving and winding and free,
You rolling old river, you changing old river,
Let's you and me, river, run down to the sea.

I've been to the cities and back again,
And I've been moved by some things that I've learned.
Met a lot of good people and called them friends,
Felt the change when the seasons turned.

I've heard all the songs that the children sang,
And I've listened to love's melodies.
I've felt my own music within me rise
Like the wind in the autumn trees.

River, take me along,
In your sunshine, sing me a song,
Ever moving and winding and free,
You rolling old river, you changing old river,
Let's you and me, river, run down to the sea.

Some day when the flowers are blooming still,
Some day when the grass is still green,
My rolling waters will round the bend
And flow into the open sea.

So here's to the rainbow that's followed me here
And here's to the friends that I know,
And here's to the song that's within me now --
I will sing it where'er I go.

River, take me along,
In your sunshine, sing me a song,
Ever moving and winding and free,
You rolling old river, you changing old river,
Let's you and me, river, run down to the sea.

(Think this is by Bill Staines and I think I got it off of an old Mary and Frances Black recording)


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Subject: Lyr Add: OH GALENA (Jim Post)
From: erinmaidin
Date: 28 Aug 06 - 06:48 AM

"Oh,Galena" by Jim Post:L
Subject: Lyr Add: OH GALENA (Jim Post)
From: Melani - PM
Date: 23 May 04 - 04:08 PM

My papa is a slave on the Fever River,
Works all day in the burnin' sun.
Loadin' the wood in the red-hot smelter;
He's so tired when the day is done.
When the lead starts to flow into the ladle,
Scrape off the top and let the pig cool down.
Load the pig lead into the master's wagon,
Down Stagecoach Trail to Galena town.

Cho: Oh, Galena, oh, Galena,
    You're such a pretty little riverboat town;
    But I wish we could spend more time on the levee,
    Watchin' the riverboats come to town.

A slave is only worth what his back can carry;
So I guess my papa's worth about half of the world;
I heard him say to mama after supper,
"I wish that boy was lucky, like the girls.
'Cause the girls get to work in the nice warm kitchen,
Cookin' the food and fetchin' the clothes.
When the rocks freeze to the ground in the winter,
That boy will sweat like a mule in the falling snow."

Cho:

Now slavery's not legal in Illinois;
That's what I heard Reverend Cartwright say.
And if someday we get our freedom,
That's gonna be a dancing day.
We'll build us a cabin on the Fever River,
We'll file a claim and we'll dig for lead.
When we hit it, then we'll be rich folks,
And we'll sleep in a feather bed.

Cho:


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Genie
Date: 27 Aug 06 - 05:37 PM

I forgot the Jimmie Rodgers song "Miss the Mississippi and You."
Jimmie didn't write it, but he did a great job singing it.

And can we count "Catfish John" as a river song?


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Lady Hillary
Date: 27 Aug 06 - 05:02 PM

Then, there's "The River's Tale."


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Dave'sWife
Date: 27 Aug 06 - 01:21 PM

Pete Seeger has written a few songs about the Hudson River for what it's worth.

I also count The Erie Canal as a river song since the canal functioned as a river and parallels the Mohawk river for most of its length. Low bridge everybody down!

Not that anyone cares, but I spent a couple of summers on archaeological digs along the Mohawk River and beside remnants of the Canal. The incidents I mentioned above took place then. Beautiful country but stuck in a pre-civil rights era, I'm afraid. The decline of the canal seems to have frozen some of the larger towns in time since no new development ensued. It's a haunted sort of place, many of those old boomtowns - not yet ghost towns but they're on their way.


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Subject: Lyr Add: WE ARE THE RIVER
From: open mike
Date: 27 Aug 06 - 01:03 PM

i seem to recall recently posting the lyrics to "We Are The River"
but i can't find them so here you go again..maybe "someone" can do
a "lyric add" ? (if not already done--the search engine seems faulty)

WE ARE THE RIVER

We're gonna wash your levees down
Coming from the Mountain
We're comin' right down thru your town
We're gonna join with the other rivers
You know, the dam don't stand a chance
Because no dam the man can build will stand
When the sea begins to dance

We're gonna join with the fishes
and help them on thier way
though the man tries to kill them
and frighten them away
From the depths up to the surface
you know the fishes can't be found
Because only water knows where the water flows
when the river's underground
when the river's underground

Maple buds are bloomin'
and the small stream trickles down
snows are a-meltin'
and the river rushes round in town
We'll have no more of your reservoirs
keepin' us from bein' free
because flood time is here my friend
and we're almost to the sea,
you know we're almost to the sea


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Genie
Date: 27 Aug 06 - 12:12 PM

Yeah, I did. 'Cep'n ah lef' the "d" offa "Old" in th' title. ;-D


But, hey, it's a great song!   (Especially Paul Robeson's later, consiousness-raised, new take on the song from the 1940s.) So no problem listing it twice.

Bill Staines's "River" is also a great song, so I'll second that mention too.

Genie


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Sorcha
Date: 27 Aug 06 - 10:04 AM

Nobody has said, Old Man River yet!!


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Dave'sWife
Date: 27 Aug 06 - 08:51 AM

Zany Mouse - I have seen people claim it as a pagan chant, an american indian song, an irish song, a welsh song and so on. Until I see some real scholorship, I'll not believe any of it.

While searching fore the lyrics, I found a completely unintentionally hilarious article citing this song as one that modern suburban women should sing to their daughters at "red parties" to celebrate their menarche. Mind you, the writer wasn't actually a Wiccan, Pagan, American indian or any such thing - just a suburban mom of judeo-christian background playing at Goddess worship.

Perhaps it's judgemental of me to critcize others for playing around at other people's spirituality and culture. However, I just can't help but find such things ridiculous. When I was working collecting folklore, language references and stories from real American Indians, I got to see up close and personal how painful it is for those born into a hijacked culture to have to sit by and see it adopted haphazardly by those trying on any new thing they come across. It is especially upsetting for those who have had to suffer as a result of their identity to see affluent folks of european descent claim that heritage as their own for a week or a year or so. (Until they come across something else 'cool" that "moves" them)

Most of the men I collected from were High Steel workers and my simply being seen with them in a public in some towns was enough to start a fight. I once hitched a ride on the back of one Mohawk guy's motorcycle to get to a dig a friend of mine was working on and we made the mistake of stopping to get a cold drink in Fort Plain (Central Upstate NY). We never made that mistake again.

End of rant - never mind me. Just getting it off my chest.


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Subject: River Songs/ Banks Of The Wabash
From: Genie
Date: 27 Aug 06 - 12:32 AM

Some other river songs I can think of right now:
Roll On, Columbia
Beautiful Ohio
Watching the River Run - Loggins & Messina
Let the River Run - Carly Simon
Proud Mary - CCR
Ol' Man River (from Showboat)
Black Water - Doobie Bros.
Green River - CCR
River Of No Return (Marilyn Monroe sang it in the film of the same name, and the Sons Of The Pioneers recorded it)
River - Joni Mitchell
By The Rio Grande - Tish Hinojosa
The River - Garth Brooks
Red River Valley
Swanee River [= Old Folks at Home]
Down by the Riverside
Flow Gently Sweet Afton
Mississippi Mud (OK, not exactly a levee, but close - a good place to beat your feet)


As for Banks of the Wabash, here's what I remember of it:

Oh, the moonlight's fair (bright?) tonight along the Wabash.
From the fields there comes a breath of new-mown hay.
Through the sycamore, the candle lights are gleaming
On the Banks Of The Wabash far away.


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Zany Mouse
Date: 26 Aug 06 - 06:36 PM

Amazing co-incidence: This is talked about in another current thread. What is the chance of that I wonder?

Rhiannon


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Zany Mouse
Date: 26 Aug 06 - 04:14 PM

Dave's Wife.

This is a Pagan chant.

Rhiannon


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE RIVER SHE IS FLOWING
From: Dave'sWife
Date: 26 Aug 06 - 03:03 PM

Founds the song that LacyEMT was looking for byut not the film where I heard it sung:


THE RIVER SHE IS FLOWING

The river she is flowing, flowing and growing.
The river she is flowing, down to the sea.
Mother, carry me, your child I will always be.
Mother, carry me down to the sea.

The wind he is blowing, blowing and rolling
The wind he is blowing all through the trees
Gentle wind carry me, your child I will always be
Gentle wind carry me all through the trees.

The earth she is changing, changing and moving.
The earth she is changing, all through the years.
Mother Earth, carry me, your child I will always be.
Mother Earth carry me, all through the years.

The fire, he is burning, burning and glowing.
The fire he is burning, ashes to dust.
Fire carry me, your child I will always be.
Fire carry me, ashes to dust.


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Dave'sWife
Date: 26 Aug 06 - 02:21 PM

I spent half an hour searching for that Grateful dead documentary with no luck. it came out after JG died but was shot over 3 summers when he was alive. Anyone??


Oh, my fave river song:

Matamoros Banks off the Devils & Dust album. it's about the Rio Grande. It's a song I would love to do as a duet with someone. Amos?


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Zany Mouse
Date: 26 Aug 06 - 02:12 PM

I forgot to say:

London River is by the much missed Rod Shearman.

River Days is by one of the major hunks on the folk scenes, Barrie Temple. (Barrie you owe me a hug for that!)

Rhiannon


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Zany Mouse
Date: 26 Aug 06 - 02:10 PM

And don't forget "River Days" and "London River"

Rhiannon


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Ron Davies
Date: 26 Aug 06 - 01:45 PM

Don't forget Jerry Rasmussen's delightful "Living on the River" (don't think it's been mentioned yet).


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Dave'sWife
Date: 26 Aug 06 - 01:22 PM

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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: LacyEMT - PM
Date: 04 Nov 98 - 05:20 PM

I am helping a friend search for the title and artist and other info on a song we recieved a wav. of... the beginning lyrics go :

The river is flowing, flowing and flowing. The river is flowing back to the sea. Mother carry me........ it has a very familiar ring to it but we cant place it... we both really like it tho.... so any info would be greatly helpful. Thanks in advance.... please email me at LacyEMT@aol.com <<<

Ya know, there is a wonderful documentary about fans of the Grateful Dead that features a girl quite high on Ex and/or LSD singing a song very much like that. it was hauntingly beautiful and I always wondered where it came from. I don't know the name of the film, but I'll look it up. I know they credited the gal in the music credits. She described learning the song from some other Deadhead who she refers to by her DH name and then launches into it acapella. later in the film, they replay her singing but add some instrumentation. I believe it may be the same song.


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Azizi
Date: 26 Aug 06 - 07:58 AM

Hi back, Old Grizzly.

You're right. I have heard that song.

Well that makes two levee songs I know.

Thanks for reminding me.


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Old Grizzly
Date: 26 Aug 06 - 07:53 AM

Hui Aziza

American Pie

drove my chevvy to the levee,......


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Azizi
Date: 26 Aug 06 - 07:21 AM

Come to think of it, that's the only song I can think of that mentions levees.

And truth be told, until Hurricane Katrina, I didn't know what a levee is.

[That may go to show you that I don't know beans about folk music. It also goes to show you that I don't get around much anymore, not that I ever did].


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Azizi
Date: 26 Aug 06 - 07:18 AM

As we approach the first 'anniversary' of the nature made devastation of Hurricane Katrina and the human made devastation of what should have been done before and after that hurricane's landing in New Orleans and other parts of the US Gulf states, I got to thinking about the first I learned that mention levees. I remember learning this song in Mr. Sibrola junior high school music class many moons ago. Here are the words I remember of that song:

River looks dark with the shadows on it.
Mighty black clouds in the sky above.
Still I aint fraid of the rain, doggone it
River and rain are the things I love.

Rain, fall down on me.
I'm as happy as I can be.

I'm gone down on the levee.
Gonna build myself a rockin chair.
If my lovin man don't come,
I'll rock away from there.

-snip-

That's all I remember. Does anyone know the title of that song and other lyrics to it? And if I got the words wrong, please 'right' them for me, and add more lyrics if there are any.

Thanks.


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Barbara
Date: 05 Nov 98 - 03:11 PM

Joe, we used to sing something similar, and I bet the tune is the same as your Racine song:
    Ol' Purdue, ol' Purdue, how you make me shiver
    With your old sweet shop on the Wabash River
    How I love you with my heart and I love you with my liver
    Ol' Purdue. (clap clap) by the river. (clap clap)
It was one of those where, each time through you sang it faster and left off the last clap).
Blessings,
Barbara


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Jon Eastmond
Date: 05 Nov 98 - 06:33 AM

Norma Waterson opens her 96 solo album with, "Black Muddy River" (Jerry Garcia/Robert Hunter)


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Joe Offer
Date: 05 Nov 98 - 04:15 AM

Thanks for the song, Dan. I see you left off the Mighty Root River. Come to think about it, that's just as well. It's mentioned in the Official Song of the City of Racine, Wisconsin, the Belle City of the Great Lakes:
Oh, Racine, Racine, what a dirty rotten city
With your torn-up streets and your filthy-smelling river
Oh, I love you with my heart, and I love you with my liver.
Oh, Racine, what a hole.

Not all rivers are scenic, and there are parts of Wisconsin that aren't particularly pretty, either. But there were lots of things I liked about Racine, that dirty little industrial town where I grew up. It ain't as bad as Kenosha.
And your song did include the Wolf, which is my favorite Wisconsin River - a nice river for canoeing and the first place I ever saw a bald eagle.
-Joe Offer-

The tune for my "Racine" song is more-or-less "Turkey in the Straw." Maybe it's closer to "Do Your Ears (Balls?) Hang Low?"
-Joe Offer, April, 2005-


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: rich r
Date: 04 Nov 98 - 07:27 PM

Haven't been back to this thread in a while, so I didn't know that Joe was hankering for Rivers of Wisconsin and glad to see that Dan K heard the cry and obliged. I got Rivers of Wisconsin off Dan's album and recorded it on a private-issue cassette about 10 years ago. Since I grew up in Two Rivers, I substituted the "West Twin" for the Eau Claire. Everybody's got to add their own little touch to this kind of song.

To Dan, if you are still out there, I also once swiped you version of "Oats & Beans" and medleyed it with Arlo Guthrie's "Down on the American Farm" for a stint at a local Heritage Days celeb.

rich r


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: LacyEMT
Date: 04 Nov 98 - 05:20 PM

I am helping a friend search for the title and artist and other info on a song we recieved a wav. of... the beginning lyrics go :

The river is flowing, flowing and flowing. The river is flowing back to the sea. Mother carry me........ it has a very familiar ring to it but we cant place it... we both really like it tho.... so any info would be greatly helpful. Thanks in advance.... please email me at LacyEMT@aol.com


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Subject: Lyr Add: RIVERS OF WISCONSIN^^
From: Dan Keding
Date: 04 Nov 98 - 05:05 PM

Joe,
Hope this is what you were looking for.

The Rivers of Wisconsin

I've crossed the broad Flambeau, I've forded the Fox
I swum the Red Cedar, I followed the Black
Sugar is muddy, the St. Croix is clear
Down by the Eau Claire I courted my dear.

Chorus
Li la li lee la lee give me your hand (3x)
There's many a river that waters our land.

The sweet Chippewa it runs glossy and gliding
The crooked Rock River runs weaving and winding
The old Wisconsin courses the plain
I never will walk by the Eau Claire again.

She hugged me she kissed me she called me her dandy
The Wolf is rocky the Plover is sandy
She hugged me she kissed me she called me her own
Down by the Eau Claire she left me a lone.

The girls of the Pestigo they're fair and they're pretty
The Big Rib and Yellow have many a beauty
The Kickapoo flows swiftly passed girls by the score
So down by the Eau Claire I'll wander no more.


All I did was put in Wisconsin rivers and change a word here or there. Let people know I had something to do with it and its all yours.

Enjoy
Dan


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