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Lyr Req: You'll Never Beat the Irish (Wolfe Tones)

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MY HEART IS IN IRELAND


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GUEST,Lisa 27 Aug 04 - 04:39 PM
Jim Dixon 27 Aug 04 - 10:30 PM
Malcolm Douglas 27 Aug 04 - 11:18 PM
GUEST,rogey 15 Mar 06 - 10:48 AM
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Jim Dixon 04 Feb 12 - 01:06 AM
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Subject: You'll never beat the Irish
From: GUEST,Lisa
Date: 27 Aug 04 - 04:39 PM

I'm looking for the lyrics of this song (Wolfe Tones) and also if anybody knows the origins of their song "Celtic symphony". Thanks a lot !
Lisa


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: you'll never beat the Irish (Wolfe Tones)
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 27 Aug 04 - 10:30 PM

YOU'LL NEVER BEAT THE IRISH was written by Pete St. John. It is sung by The Dublin City Ramblers on their album "You'll Never Beat the Irish," Rego Irish CD #3015, 1993. The album cover says "The official song of the 1994 Irish World Cup Soccer Team."

It's hard to believe the lyrics of this song aren't somewhere on the Internet, but I failed to find them. The best I could do was to transcribe this much from a sound sample at allmusic:

Here we come, the Irish. Let me hear it. (Ireland!)
Here we come, the Irish. What a team! (What a team!)
Here we come, the Irish. Let me hear it. (Ireland!)
You'll never beat the Irish, and our mighty men in green.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: you'll never beat the Irish (Wolfe Tones)
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 27 Aug 04 - 11:18 PM

..and for Celtic Symphony, simply type celtic symphony into the "Lyrics & Knowledge Search" box, which you will find at the top of every page here. There are a number of past discussions of it in the Forum. It seems mostly to be about football.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: You'll Never Beat the Irish (Wolfe Tones)
From: GUEST,rogey
Date: 15 Mar 06 - 10:48 AM


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: You'll Never Beat the Irish (Wolfe Tones)
From: GUEST,rogey
Date: 15 Mar 06 - 10:50 AM

anybody no the words to u'll ever beat the irish


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: You'll Never Beat the Irish (Wolfe Tones)
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 15 Mar 06 - 11:13 AM

If you mean the Wolfe Tones song, there is a transcription at

http://www.vincentpeters.nl/triskelle/lyrics/neverbeattheirish.php?index=080.010.080.060.

It's very long, and credited to Brian Warfield. There isn't any obvious connection to the football "anthem".


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Subject: Lyr Add: YOU'LL NEVER BEAT THE IRISH
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 04 Feb 12 - 01:06 AM

This is NOT the football version.

These lyrics and the introductory note are copied from Edward O'Connor's web site:


YOU'LL NEVER BEAT THE IRISH—Irish History in Song
By Edward O'Connor* on 17 March 2007

In three parts, this is the Wolfe Tones' quick and dirty summary of 800 years of Irish history. It's not exactly the most unbiased telling. For that, I highly recommend Robert Kee's The Green Flag trilogy (The Most Distressful Country, The Bold Fenian Men, and Ourselves Alone)—it's excellently balanced and thorough. For online resources, CAIN's chronology of key events in Irish history from 1170 to 1967 is a decent outline of the period.

Part 1 ("1167"–1690)

In 1167 they came to Ireland on the make
They were followed by invasions and by conquests in their wake
The kings and queens of England made our land a battleground
They took the land by fraud, defeat, by poison, murder, and deceit

CHORUS: Murder, plunder, faugh a ballagh clear the way
Cheating, stealing, diddly-idle-day
Dumping, dying, faugh a ballagh clear the way
Diddly-idle-doh, diddly-idle-day

Then by the 15th century they held precariously to the Pale
The invaders were more Irish than the Irish, that's the tale
Fat greedy king called Henry's dick was bigger than his brain
Imposed the Reformation—confiscating—usurpation!

And you'll never beat the Irish, no matter what you do
You can put us down and keep us out, but we'll come back again
You know we are the fighting Irish, and we'll fight until the end
You know you should have known—you'll never beat the Irish! CHORUS 2X

The virgin queen Elizabeth brought more turmoil to our land
She decimated Munster, scorched the earth and all at hand
Then James the First and Charles the Maud brought other greedy bands
They took the land of Ulster, killed their chieftains—poison—plunder! CHORUS

And by defective titles they cheated Connacht and the west
Across the 17th century from war we had no rest
The curse of Cromwell plagued the land till our towns ran red with blood
And the Battle of the Boyne was fought by William, James, and foreign hosts

And you'll never beat the Irish, no matter what you do
You can put us down and keep us out, but we'll come back again
You know we are the fighting Irish, and we'll fight until the end
You know you should have known—you'll never beat the Irish! CHORUS 2X

Part 2 (1690–1921)

After the Siege of Limerick Patrick Sarsfield won the day
But the Irish they were cheated when his army went away
Queen Anne and her successors forced on us those penal laws
Denying the rights and liberty of religion, land, and property

Then came the three bad Georges and they had us nearly fooled
They couldn't speak the lingo of the countries that they ruled
Puppets of ascendancy, they kept the Irish down
And the rebels and the whiteboys had their army on the run!

The famine queen Victoria came to rule us by and by
She was on the throne so bloody long we thought she'd never die
She presided over hunger, famine, poverty, and disease
She drove the people from their homes—to their death or to the land beyond the sea

All across the 19th century we fought oppression with great zeal
O'Connell spoke his blarney for Emancipation and Repeal
Young Ireland and the Fenians tried the dynamite and the gun
Parnell, the men of '16 died, then Michael Collins had them on the run!

Part 3 (1922–)

In 1922 well they divided up our land
Six counties held by England, it was all they could command
Against the wishes of the majority of the people of our land
Drove a border through our country—through towns and homes and mountains!

Then our country was engulfed into a bloody civil war
Between those against the treaty, and those who voted for
George the Fifth he opened Parliament for the statelet in the north
While the rest were building Ireland from the ruined colonial ashes!

Then Edward, George, and Elizabeth looked after Ireland's fate
They watched discrimination grow in a gerrymandered state
Homes and churches burnt while the Orangemen's power it grew
Discrimination, bigotry, in housing, jobs, and liberties!

From the ashes of the past, then the phoenix did emerge
A new declared republic on the world it did converge
To search for peace, prosperity, and unity in our land
We threw our lot in Europe, then made our peace agreement!


[* I think O'Connor wrote the commentary on this song, not the song itself. The web site contains lots of historical notes about the people and events mentioned in the song, which I have not bothered to copy.

Parts 1 and 2 of this song first appeared on The Wolfe Tones' album "You'll Never Beat the Irish" (2001). Part 3 appeared on "The Troubles" (2004).

There is also a football version of the song that begins "We are McCarthy's army...."]


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