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BS: The bushettes

SINSULL 01 Sep 04 - 05:31 PM
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Bill Hahn//\\ 01 Sep 04 - 05:40 PM
Bill D 01 Sep 04 - 05:53 PM
Don Firth 01 Sep 04 - 06:14 PM
Bill D 01 Sep 04 - 06:18 PM
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Bill D 01 Sep 04 - 06:26 PM
SINSULL 01 Sep 04 - 06:37 PM
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Jack the Sailor 01 Sep 04 - 06:59 PM
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Subject: BS: The bushettes
From: SINSULL
Date: 01 Sep 04 - 05:31 PM

I sat in stunned silence as bush's two daughters exchanged some truly mindless patter written for them by a refugee from the Academy Awards. It was sophomoric, tasteless, and incredibly glib - apparently their drug and alcohol problems can be written off as "We're young and foolish." And they are glad Dad is running for office because now that they are out of school they have nothing better to do.

While asking my self if I would have been as offended had it been Kerry's children, I turned to a news channel where a Dem, a Rep, and a newscaster were discussing the same thing. The dem. was horrified, the newscaster was smirking like this is the best thing that had happened in the whole convention, and the best the Rep could come up with was "Well it probably hasn't cost him any votes." The other two disagreed and he nodded sheepishly.

What the hell were they thinking? It wasn't "cute". It did not resonate of Lucie Byrd Johnson doing the Frug. Anyone else catch their act?


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 01 Sep 04 - 05:36 PM

I'm trying to avoid all of that stuff. Did you hear that in NYC the police are being rather slow to release arrested protestors, and the media haven't been allowed to visit the holding facility to report on the conditions or the reasons for keeping those folks out of circulation?

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: Bill Hahn//\\
Date: 01 Sep 04 - 05:40 PM

All 4 Kerry offspring are personable and erudite. The Bushettes---smack of Britney Spear knockoffs. Sad.


Bill Hahn


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: Bill D
Date: 01 Sep 04 - 05:53 PM

I turned it off when Elizabeth Dole started proselytizing from the pulpit podium.

No matter what, no one can say we don't have a clear choice and a disparity of attitudes between the parties this year.....I have seldom seen such sanctimonious parroting and Gerrymandering of ideas!.

I did read this morning that whoever wrote the girls' lines will be "walking the beaches in Alaska"....but what COULD they have written for them?


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: Don Firth
Date: 01 Sep 04 - 06:14 PM

Clones of Paris Hilton and What's-'er-face. . . .

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: Bill D
Date: 01 Sep 04 - 06:18 PM

nice, wholesome American family...they ALL give up drugs and wild behavior when they really need to..*grin*


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: DougR
Date: 01 Sep 04 - 06:21 PM

Last time I checked, the Bush twins were not running for office.

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: Bill D
Date: 01 Sep 04 - 06:26 PM

then why did they get all that valuble air time? Anyone that is put on that stage to REPRESENT the party is fair game for commentary...the Republicans sure didn't hesitate to comment about some of the appearances at Kerry's little do.


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: SINSULL
Date: 01 Sep 04 - 06:37 PM

They are not, Doug. If, however, they are going to stand up and speak at the Convention and be televised throughout the world, why not give them something intelligent to say? Why have one appear in jeans? What was the message? Who was it designed to reach? And why the "in your face" quips about their "troubles".

Whoever was responsible for the content of their "speech" and their dress should be fired. This is how the world perceives young America. The two of them should have been kept quietly on the sidelines looking pretty and hugging Grandma.


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: Bill Hahn//\\
Date: 01 Sep 04 - 06:39 PM

Were I the parents of the Kerry girls(the guys were also great)I think my buttons would have popped off my shirt from the pride at hearing them speak. And also their accomplishments this far in their lives.   

Were I the parents of the Bush girls---knowing them I would have been too ashamed to let them loose on a listening public---but, then again, they may know that they are playing to the lowest (of the lowest) common---and I mean common--denominators.

I do believe it shows us ---the disparity between them--the disparity of the intellect and knowledge of the world of the two sets of parents==ok nitpickers---3 sets (or is it 4). Either way---Kerry's Kids should do more appearances---now how is that for a slogan---Kerry's Kids for Kinship and Knowledge and Kerry.

I mentioned Britney Spears only because I did not want to mention Hiltons---but you are so right. Though, Britney was a bomb in the Farenheit911 bit she did---moronic to the extreme.


Bill Hahn


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 01 Sep 04 - 06:59 PM

I didn't like the way they joked about their grandmother. I've never been a fan of Barbara Bush But she should only have to take that stuff from late night comedians. Not from her own family.


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: Bill Hahn//\\
Date: 01 Sep 04 - 07:07 PM

To me the sad part of all this is that future generations---and even this one, to some extent, do not and will not remember what a real covention was. It was not a staged Bway production. It meant something.

As one interviewee on a radio program said--a writer, I believe---"...in those days it worked because there was dealing going on by the power brokers who knew what was going on---now we expect the lowest common denominator to elect someone just like them because they like his TV persona. The world is too complicated for that".

I watched CSpan2 for a while on Monday---Stevenson, Ike, JFK, etc; at conventions. That was intelligence and oratory---I was not an Ike supporter, but in hindsight his railing against the military industrial complex (and him a general) was so prescient. Did not help, sadly. And Stevenson---he spoke ideas---but, unfortunately, we are back to the denominator thing I spoke of---hurt him too


Bill Hahn


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: katlaughing
Date: 01 Sep 04 - 08:08 PM

I heard them on an NPR story this morning and was appalled. Just watched a video of them at the washington post. The link might not work unless you sign in. In the video, they look and sound like ignorant white trash. Interesting that they could not say one thing of substance, contrasted to what Kerry's kids were like. There's just no comparison...it's like comparing a one-celled amoeba brain matching wits with someone like Stephen Hawking, etc. If I was a GOP member, I would have curled up and died of embarassment last night. It's bad enough we've had their smary, smirking ass of a dad representing our country for the past four years. Imagine what other countries must think when they see and hear these two! Really instills confidence in us, no?

I guess the good thing is they haven't killed anyone while drunk driving like their role-model mother did when she was their age.


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: Deckman
Date: 01 Sep 04 - 08:18 PM

Kat ... would you please explain your last statement, about their role model Mother? Thank you. Bob


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: katlaughing
Date: 01 Sep 04 - 08:27 PM

Sure, Roope, though I may have mispoke the drinking part...it seems unclear:

On the evening of 6 November 1963, two days after her 17th birthday, Laura Welch failed to stop her Chevy sedan at a stop sign and smashed into a Corvair being driven by a school chum, Michael Douglas, also 17. Laura and her passenger, Judy Dykes, were treated for minor injuries at a nearby hospital, where they learned that Douglas had died from his injuries. No police charges were filed, apparently, but paperwork from the accident is missing or unclear and the details of the incident are a bit of a mystery. Now Laura Welch is married to U. S. president George W. Bush and is known around the world as LAURA BUSH. The story made national news during the presidential election of 2000, but little new information came to light. At the time her spokesman, Andrew Malcolm, said "To this day Mrs. Bush remains unable to talk about it."


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: Deckman
Date: 01 Sep 04 - 08:29 PM

Thank you Kat. Bob


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: katlaughing
Date: 01 Sep 04 - 08:34 PM

You're welcome. I'd also like to apologise for not being stronger. I'd said I wasn't going to contribute anymore to the negative crap about politics and all it took was these two! I am weak, someone save me!!**bG**


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: Amos
Date: 01 Sep 04 - 08:44 PM

'Sawright KL -- it is only human to want your leaders to be coherent and speak your language, and to raise their children well. Sadly, none of the above apply to clan Bush.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: Bill Hahn//\\
Date: 01 Sep 04 - 08:55 PM

Sailor Jack: Having nterviewed the author of a book re: the Bush clan I have to say that she (Barbara) comes off as the strongest and most caring of them all.   Like or dislike the family---and I do---one has to give her points for strength and loyalty. The part about her caring for a deceased child that Bush the Elder avoided like the plague is fascinating.

So---to your thought. The girls. What more can we add to this thread about two totally unaware flakes---or as they say in Calif. "...like what was that about?"other than to say what has already been said about their total inanity.


Bill Hahn


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: michaelr
Date: 01 Sep 04 - 09:35 PM

kat said: they look and sound like ignorant white trash.

Well, exactly. That's who they were supposed to appeal to. That's who votes for Bush. That's Middle America - the Moron Majority.

Amy Goodman asked some female delegates what their Main Concern was. One said "security", the other two said "morals". When probed "what do you mean?" they said "we can't have all those gays running around getting married" and "we must ensure the sanctity of life".

In other words, what bothers these pinheads most is gay rights and freedom of choice. Get ready for human, gender and civil rights advances of the last 50 years to be rolled back. What next - deny blacks the right to vote?

Oh sorry, they're doing that already.

We here on the Mudcat who have a grasp of the issues and a progressive/liberal/humanistic POV are very much the minority in this man's America. Be afraid. Be very afraid.

Michael


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: GUEST,guest from NW
Date: 01 Sep 04 - 09:49 PM

"Last time I checked, the Bush twins were not running for office."

no, but the subject of the thread is their performance addressing the nation at the RNC. did you see it, dougR? if so, what was your opinion of their presentation?


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: Amos
Date: 01 Sep 04 - 09:50 PM

They really looked good -- strong, healthy, milk-fed, shampooed and well-turned out, confident and smiling broadly. It ended right there, as with so many Bush products -- look good and never mind the substance. But talk about beauty being merely skin deep, the entire style of communication was thin gruel indeed, a kind of hollow heartiness, force with a smile painted on the front, like someone putting lipstick on the front end of an artillery shell, full of mindless destruction.

Compared to the actual values portrayed by the girls Mister Kerry raised, these two are a sort of laughing stock. They gave good wave.

As for who is running for what, well, they used to say the apple never falls too far from the tree.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: Once Famous
Date: 01 Sep 04 - 10:25 PM

And the Bush girls advise their father on world affairs, right?

What complete liberal minded, navel-gazing nit-picking!

Maybe your kids aren't perfect either. Does that affect your job?

Really, some will go to any extreme to spew hate about a president.
What it does it really make you look bad. And real desparate.


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: Amos
Date: 01 Sep 04 - 10:28 PM

Oh, Martin, eat soap, you chuzzlewit.

You think highly intelligent, communicating children come out of households full of false pride, underhanded manipulations and PR?

Not a parent?

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: SINSULL
Date: 01 Sep 04 - 10:36 PM

Amos - what's a chuzzlewit? And "eat soap"???? Boy I'd hate to see you when you're really angry - sorry, I couldn't resist.


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 01 Sep 04 - 10:50 PM

Hey DougR. You're right. The Bush twins aren't running for President. Neither is John Kerrey's wife, so what were all you Repo's pissing and moaning about?


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: GUEST,guest from NW
Date: 01 Sep 04 - 10:53 PM

"Maybe your kids aren't perfect either. Does that affect your job?"
"Really, some will go to any extreme to spew hate about a president."

same question to you MG as to dougR. did you see their speech? what did you think about it and their presentation?

and, by the way, they were up there addressing the nation thereby making themselves fair game for comment and/or criticism. my question has nothing to do with hating the president. what is your evaluation of their performance?


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: Once Famous
Date: 01 Sep 04 - 11:16 PM

I thought the Bush girls had nice tits.

Otherwise, no impact on anything as do most first ladies.

I am a parent, Amos. More than anyone here will probably ever realize as I prefer to keep it all very private.

But eat soap? That's one of the lamest comebacks to losing an arguement? And:

"You think highly intelligent, communicating children come out of households full of false pride, underhanded manipulations and PR?"

Probably one of the most generalized, unsubstantiated comments I have seen on this forum, yet.


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: mg
Date: 01 Sep 04 - 11:31 PM

the inane twits and poor white trash, immature as they could very well be, are going to teach 4th grade in Harlem and work with AIDS patients in the third world..at least they say so. mg


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: CarolC
Date: 01 Sep 04 - 11:35 PM

I'm not going to comment on the Bushettes, but I noticed quite a few signs being waived around the convention floor this evening that said:

LET FREEDOM REIGN

Am I the only one who thinks this is some weird new kind of oxymoron?


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: Amos
Date: 01 Sep 04 - 11:57 PM

No, Carol -- I hadn't seen it before but it sure typifies the sly kind of re-definition PR work which Bush uses so deftly. Make Way!! Make Way for his Lese-Majeste!!

Wodda maroon!


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 02 Sep 04 - 12:49 AM

I just listened to part of the talk (had to turn it off after a few minutes). They mainly sound very young.


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: GUEST,GROK
Date: 02 Sep 04 - 01:01 AM

Are they allowed to leave the house without chaperones? Makes the mind boggle. However, it tends to support the truth about genetics. A kinda proof-positive that evolution works after a fashion.


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: Ebbie
Date: 02 Sep 04 - 01:40 AM

SouthCoast Today:

"She (Susan Whitson) said the twins' five-minute speech waslargely written by presidential adviser Karen Hughes, who has known them since they were children.
Shedrick Gavin, a 25-year-old Republican activist from Washington D.C., got the jokes and didn't mind anything about the glamorous and fashionable twins.

"The girls -- I can't say what I really think, but they're beautiful" Gavin gushed Wednesday.
Jenna Bush graduated from the University of Texas this year, Barbara from Yale. They plan to campaign more or less full time for their father this fall.

"They have no more speeches or public events planned at the Republican convention, although they will be in the hall Thursday night to watch their father accept the nomination."


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: Shanghaiceltic
Date: 02 Sep 04 - 05:05 AM

I heard them on the BBC Radio News (via broadband)this morning, sort of made me want to put my fingers down the back of my throat.


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 02 Sep 04 - 06:32 AM

The Let Freedom Reign line is what GWB scrawled in Sharpie marker on the note slipped to him by Condoleeza Rice saying that the hand-over in Iraq had just occurred. Photos of the note were widely published in papers. Few people seemed to notice (or perhaps care about) the weird distorion of the words from My Country 'Tis of Thee.


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: SINSULL
Date: 02 Sep 04 - 09:50 AM

You are giving him too much credit. He just misspelled ring.


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: Greg F.
Date: 02 Sep 04 - 12:14 PM

They don't just LOOK like ignorant white trash and BEHAVE like ignorant white trash, they ARE ignorant white trash- as is Daddy. Fact that they're rich is immaterial.

[The Bushettes] are going to teach 4th grade in Harlem and work with AIDS patients in the third world...

and cure cancer, and stop global warming, and end world hunger and make WalMart pay a living wage and put an end to racism and.........


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 02 Sep 04 - 01:40 PM

Let Freedom Reign

Is it just me or does Jenna remind you of Tanya Harding?


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: Don Firth
Date: 02 Sep 04 - 03:18 PM

When you combine the deeply thought out political philosophy of one of Mudcat's more prominent intellectuals, "I thought the Bush girls had nice tits" with Ebbie's warning that "They plan to campaign more or less full time for their father this fall," and then think about what Thomas Jefferson said regarding the need for an informed electorate, it's obvious that John Kerry has his work cut out for him.

In this enlightened nation, one should never underestimate the vote-getting power of a couple of boobs. But in political campaigns, you use what you've got.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: beardedbruce
Date: 02 Sep 04 - 03:25 PM

Martin:

"You think highly intelligent, communicating children come out of households full of false pride, underhanded manipulations and PR?"


Why not? look at the comments about the Kerry Kids...


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: GUEST,Larry K
Date: 02 Sep 04 - 04:32 PM

As a conservative I felt the Bush Twins were unfunny, crude, and out of place in the convention.   Maybe I am too old to "get it".   Most panelists trashed them that night.   Only one praised them.   I was shocked when the e-mails the next night were all in support of the twins and felt the pannelists were out of touch.

On the other hand, as least they weren't booed like the Kerry girls.   What up with that?   If only we could combine the two and have the Bush girls wearing the see through blouse.

Let Freedom Reign was used, because Sean Hannity already has "Let Freedom Ring" as his book title and song theme.   If the republicans used "Let Freedom Ring", Hannity would be accused of being partisan. And we all know that FOX is fair and balanced, so we can't let that happen.   I know at least one or two of you may not think Fox is Fair and Balanced but did you see the numbers.   On Tuesday Fox beat CBS, ABC, NBC, and all the other cable stations in viewers watching the convention.   Who woulda thunk it?


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: Amos
Date: 02 Sep 04 - 04:58 PM

LEmmings do that sort of thing too. Small brains, or something.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Sep 04 - 05:02 PM

I don't care if every television in the nation is tuned to Fox News, that network will NEVER be fair and balanced.

I'm not interested in bashing the Bush twins, despite being opposed to their father's politics with every fiber of my being. I think it's pretty obvious their appearance wasn't the high water mark of the convention for the conventional set. But that isn't who their appearance was geared towards. The only thing missing was the MTV logo.

I think their appearance was designed to be part and parcel of the broader Bush Family product launch, just like the Kerry/Edwards families were part and parcel of the Kerry/Edwards product launch. There is a spread in this week's People Magazine, they were interviewed for Entertainment Tonight, etc etc. They wouldn't be there is there wasn't a demographic they were aiming to hit.

Interesting to note there can't really be a Bush/Cheney Family product launch because of the flawed, Achilles heel the Cheney family has in the eyes of the True Believers. They are "afflicted", as we all know, with a lesbian daughter. So the Happy Families promo won't work for the Repubs, hence the MTV appeal of the Bush twins, as sort of a smokescreen, you see. While everyone is busy bashing the twins, they won't be asking about "that Cheney girl" and go poking around on the dark side of Republican closet full of skeletons.

But I have to admit, I wasn't all that impressed by the Kerry kids either.

The last "kid" I was impressed with was JFK Jr. Now that boy had it all.


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 02 Sep 04 - 05:45 PM

"On Tuesday Fox beat CBS, ABC, NBC, and all the other cable stations in viewers watching the convention."

"Who woulda thunk it?"

Anyone who would have thought about it. Mostly Bush boosters would watch the convention and Fox is the Bush booster network.

About forty percent of the country has decided they will vote for Bush.

A big chunk of them watch Fox.


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: PoppaGator
Date: 02 Sep 04 - 06:31 PM

I *like* the retort "Eat Soap!" So much more genteel than "Eat Shit" or even "Bite Me!" Never encountered it before; I like it, and I'll use it.

No suspense here about anyone's reaction to the girls. Of course they appear, very clearly, to be dumb as posts to all who perceive their daddy as a nitwit puppet in the hands of corporate interests (e.g., myself). To those more sympathetic to the neoconservative cause, of course, they're nice attractive young ladies, perhaps a bit unaccustomed to the limelight.

The *only* message that caught me by surprise was the one scolding the twins and/or their handlers for allowing one of them to appear wearing blue jeans. Pretty severe standards, there!

I only watched an hour or two of the Democratic convention, the one with which I am in greater agreement. Haven't watched a minute of the GOP shindig at all, at least not yet.

If I do, it won't be on Fox.


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: Charley Noble
Date: 02 Sep 04 - 08:23 PM

Here's a positive suggestion, more or less.

Let's propose to the powers that be that the Kerry and Bush girls debate each other. Of course, the Kerry girls will probably win the debate while the majority of potential voters will identify with the Bushettes and Bush will harvest those who are still undecided. But what the hell, I'd like to see the debate, and MY entertainment priorities are important!

Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: Sorcha
Date: 02 Sep 04 - 08:39 PM

I missed the show. Is there somewhere I can read the text?


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 02 Sep 04 - 09:26 PM

"If I was a GOP member, I would have curled up and died of embarassment last night."

But they were proud of them.

Explains it all.


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: Once Famous
Date: 02 Sep 04 - 10:06 PM

Amazing how much time is spent bashing a couple of beavers who will have no impact on the election as the Kerry ones won't either.

A very lightweight thread.


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: SINSULL
Date: 02 Sep 04 - 10:24 PM

Saturday Night Live, Sorcha.


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: GUEST,Bardford
Date: 03 Sep 04 - 01:58 AM

Here's a link Sorcha. I couldn't copy/paste the text.

They are college graduates.

Georgewbush.com daughters


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: Amos
Date: 03 Sep 04 - 08:02 AM

That speech is just pathetic and too cute by far. Keep up the good work, ladies.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: GUEST,Larry K
Date: 03 Sep 04 - 09:07 AM

I agree with the previous post who said far too much attention is given to the kids (of either candidate)   Not the real issue in this campaign by any means.    Part of the dog and pony show from both candidates to show their softer side.   I am surprized that they didn't bring out their pet dogs as well.   

Far more important to me is the Kerry speech minutes after the convention.   After complaining all week that the republicans need to stick to the important issues and lay out a future for America, Kerry proceeds to criticize Bush and Cheney for not serving in Viet Nam. UGH! Why is he still fighting the Vien Nam war?   I really believe that ALL AMERICANS want him to move on.   Does he not get it?


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: Amos
Date: 03 Sep 04 - 09:12 AM

Larry:

Excuse me, but the redneck Republican gang has been raising that issue in the ugliest possible way for the last three months. Perhaps you missed that part? It is pretty disingenuous to now say he should not respond.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: ard mhacha
Date: 03 Sep 04 - 01:55 PM

How the hell do the citizens of the US put on such a cringeworthy circus, such bloody awful sweet sugary crap, do us all a favour, get on with your vote rigging and leave the circus to the clowns.


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: PoppaGator
Date: 03 Sep 04 - 02:00 PM

If you like this thread, you'll probably love today's dispatch from New York by New Olreans Times-Picayune humor columnist Chris Rose:

http://www.nola.com/search/index.ssf?/base/living-0/109419450298200.xml?nola

I especially like the part where he tries to visualize W and the missus dancing around the house and popping the Gator. But that's just me...


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: Don Firth
Date: 03 Sep 04 - 05:28 PM

Larry, where have you been? If Kerry is fighting the Vietnam war, it's because he's been forced to. The digusting attempt to discredit Kerry's established and documented war record by a cabal of right-wing vets who have resented Kerry ever since the days of Vietnam Vets Against the War was bad enough. But after Bush weakly repudiates the attempt to discredit Kerry by saying that Kerry served his country honorably, he then takes his Republican Convention speech as a platform to reopen the same spurious attack. And this from a man who, wanting to avoid the war that Kerry was fighting in, got daddy to help him jump the line to get into the Texas Air National Guard ahead of 500 prior applicants, and then couldn't be bothered to attend meetings.

What, exactly, do you expect Kerry to do? Up to now, he's been very restrained about this issue, but since Bush and his supporters want to keep beating the same drum, it's damned well about time that someone makes a very large point of the so-called military record of the hypocrite who wishes to renew his four-year lease on the White House.

The problem with Kerry and his supporters up to this point is that they are being too damned nice!

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: GUEST,Frank
Date: 03 Sep 04 - 06:18 PM

One of the twins got press for sticking her tongue out at the press.

They are not good endorsements for family values.

The Republican ladies at the Convention looked like
Stepford Wives.

Frank


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: Terry Allan Hall
Date: 03 Sep 04 - 07:39 PM

...On the evening of 6 November 1963, two days after her 17th birthday, Laura Welch failed to stop her Chevy sedan at a stop sign and smashed into a Corvair being driven by a school chum, Michael Douglas, also 17. Laura and her passenger, Judy Dykes, were treated for minor injuries at a nearby hospital, where they learned that Douglas had died from his injuries. No police charges were filed, apparently, but paperwork from the accident is missing or unclear and the details of the incident are a bit of a mystery. Now Laura Welch is married to U. S. president George W. Bush and is known around the world as LAURA BUSH. The story made national news during the presidential election of 2000, but little new information came to light. At the time her spokesman, Andrew Malcolm, said "To this day Mrs. Bush remains unable to talk about it."...

What this leaves out (due to the fact that it's been "sanitized") is that the "school chum" was actually Laura Welch's fiancee, who had just dumped her, due to a pregnancy scare...

How's that for "Republican Family Values"? http://www.childbutcher.com/laura_bush.htm


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: GUEST,Texas Ranger.
Date: 04 Sep 04 - 05:50 AM

Well, well, the things you learn on Mudcat, and she looks so sweet and innocent beside her beloved ballon-head.


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 04 Sep 04 - 06:36 AM

Just read this thread. Thanks for that link kat. I have just played it (well some of it, I turned it off before the end as I was getting close to vomiting) and I am quite stunned as to how awful it is.

If that goes down well with Bush supporters, I have to question thier mentality (although I do anyway over Iraq, etc.). I think it fair to suggest that had that been part of a UK election campaign, what ever party presented it would have been considered to have shot themselves in the foot.

Jon


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: GUEST,JB
Date: 04 Sep 04 - 09:06 AM

If you think it was embarrasing listening to the Bush twins, then how about listening to Arnold the Terminator speaking with a thick Austro-German accent.

Comedians often spend long periods of time researching material for their shows and here it was, all packed into one evening`s entertainment.

I now firmly believe that apart from a miracle, Bush will win the election `04 because he is a master at avoiding the issues. This was clearly demonstrated at the GOP convention when all those cowboys present seemed to go wild when Bush just touched on the issues but kept pouding the big message of "we are strong, we make our own decisions and we don`t need fucking France or the UN for that matter to help us make up our mind". Boy, that went down a treat and there he was, poor ould Mr. gentleman Kerry whinging on about how sad he is that they (the republicans) just keek throwing shit at him while at the same time avoiding the issues.

For heaven`s sake John Kerry, get wise and start throwing a bit of sh.t back or you will simply keep slip-sliding away.

JB


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Sep 04 - 09:08 AM

The current extremist Republican worldview is this: government is the root of all evil, and wealthy people and corporations need relief from the burdens of supporting it through taxes.

Anything that can be done to make more people accept that mantra, including packaging and selling their young bimbettes at the product launch, or exploiting racist fundamentalist Christians with mental problems, is considered a reasonable way to hold onto power.

The Republicans haven't been the majority party since forever. You need to think about what that truly means. It means the nation is so disgusted with the Democrats for failing to lead the nation, that they are voting in these crooks who tell them what they want to hear: government is bad. But no one really believes government is bad. They think the Democrats are bad. And the Democrats have been the face of the government for most of the 20th century.

If someone new doesn't take control of the Democratic party, and soon, these crooks are going to destroy the government infrastructure, if they haven't already. But for that to happen, we have to have GOOD CANDIDATES. That isn't happening.


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Sep 04 - 09:12 AM

I also doubt that Bush will debate Kerry. He doesn't have to, so he won't.


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: katlaughing
Date: 04 Sep 04 - 10:10 AM

You're welcome, Jon. I only wish that was the reaction here. We shall see, I guess.


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: GUEST,Redjo
Date: 04 Sep 04 - 12:49 PM

Guest JB I am with you in the belief that Bush will win again, I am never surprised at the gullibility of the US electorate.


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Subject: RE: BS: The bushettes
From: Nerd
Date: 04 Sep 04 - 01:19 PM

Oh, you're right, GUEST. Americans don't hate government, they just hate the Democrats.

Which explains why more Americans voted for Gore in 2000, and why Bush had to resort to shenanigans to take the electoral college. And it's why there is an even split in most polls now, right?

YOU hate the democrats, that much is clear from all your recent posts (If you are the GUEST I think you are). But don't try to project that onto "the nation."


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