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FAREWELL, JOHNNY MINER


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Farewell Johnny Miner


GUEST,MC Fat 31 Jul 02 - 05:11 AM
nutty 31 Jul 02 - 05:20 AM
GUEST,MC Fat 31 Jul 02 - 05:39 AM
Dave & Julie 31 Jul 02 - 05:21 PM
Roughyed 31 Jul 02 - 05:55 PM
Malcolm Douglas 31 Jul 02 - 09:44 PM
Dave & Julie 01 Aug 02 - 07:40 AM
Malcolm Douglas 01 Aug 02 - 09:19 AM
GUEST,Chalkie 07 Sep 04 - 11:44 AM
Sorcha 07 Sep 04 - 12:57 PM
Turlough 07 Sep 04 - 01:27 PM
Sorcha 07 Sep 04 - 01:34 PM
Turlough 07 Sep 04 - 01:48 PM
GUEST,Chalkie 08 Sep 04 - 04:09 AM
Dave Hanson 08 Sep 04 - 04:42 AM
Turlough 08 Sep 04 - 04:57 AM
nutty 08 Sep 04 - 01:41 PM
Folkiedave 29 May 08 - 09:34 AM
nutty 29 May 08 - 12:13 PM
Jon Bartlett 29 May 08 - 02:17 PM
GUEST,Ed Pickford 20 Feb 09 - 07:46 AM
goatfell 20 Feb 09 - 11:24 AM
Ritchie 31 Dec 09 - 03:56 AM
GUEST, Sminky 14 Apr 10 - 08:41 AM
GUEST,matt thorns 18 May 10 - 05:50 PM
GUEST,Christian Donovan 06 Jan 18 - 04:41 AM
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Subject: Goodbye Johnny Miner
From: GUEST,MC Fat
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 05:11 AM

Bob Fox sang this at Warwick. I know it was writ by Ed Pickford.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodbye Johnny Miner
From: nutty
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 05:20 AM

It's in the DT, Jim ......

Farewell Johnny Miner


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodbye Johnny Miner
From: GUEST,MC Fat
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 05:39 AM

Ta muchly


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Subject: Lyr Add: FAREWELL JOHNNY MINER (Ed Pickford)
From: Dave & Julie
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 05:21 PM

These lyrics are taken from the 1970 vinyl "Folk On Friday" album, this track by The Northern Front, of whom I think author Ed Pigford (sic) was a member:

FAREWELL JOHNNY MINER
(Ed Pickford)

Johnny Miner, you were born
Never to see the rising dawn
Now it's time that you were gone
Farewell Johnny Miner!

CHORUS: And farewell Durham, Yorkshire too
Nottingham, the same to you
Scotland, South Wales, say Adieu
Farewell Johnny Miner

They've promised you the earth sometimes
To get coal from their stinkin' mines
Now the justice for their crimes
Is Farewell, Johnny Miner!

You've battled with the sliding scale
Lungs turned black & faces pale
Now your body's up for sale
Farewell Johnny Miner!

And Farewell John, don't take it hard
Unemployment isn't bad
They'll treat you well in the knackers' yard
Farewell Johnny Miner!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodbye Johnny Miner
From: Roughyed
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 05:55 PM

During the Miners strike and the pit closure campaign I used to sing the last verse as 'But it won't last long in the knackers yard so fight back Johnny Miner' It always went well. Brilliant song.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodbye Johnny Miner
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 09:44 PM

That would be Ed Pickford.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodbye Johnny Miner
From: Dave & Julie
Date: 01 Aug 02 - 07:40 AM

I'm sure Malcolm's right about the spelling, but the 1970 LP definitely says "Ed Pigford" on the label & sleeve note. Obviously standards of proofreading were as good then as they are today.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodbye Johnny Miner
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 01 Aug 02 - 09:19 AM

Good heavens! That would explain why he's also "Pigford" in at least one DT file. I had been puzzled about that...


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Subject: Guitar Chords Required For Johnny Miner
From: GUEST,Chalkie
Date: 07 Sep 04 - 11:44 AM

I'm sure there's more than one Johnny Miner, but this one starts"
    Johnny Miner you were born,
    never to see the rising dawn,
    now it's time that you were gone,
    farewell Johnny Miner.
    Chorus.

I learned this song a while back from a Bob Fox & Benny Graham CD If anyone can help, much appreciated.


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Subject: RE: Guitar Chords Required For Johnny Miner
From: Sorcha
Date: 07 Sep 04 - 12:57 PM

There is a MIDI here,but since I don't do chords, I can't figure them out. Help here?


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Subject: RE: Guitar Chords Required For Johnny Miner
From: Turlough
Date: 07 Sep 04 - 01:27 PM

A great song! A friend of mine sings this one every now and then. Unfortunately, she sings it unaccompanied, so I couldn't ask her for the chords. But I guess you could use this:

[C]Johnny Miner [Am]you were born,
[F]never to see the [Am]rising dawn,
[F]now it's time that [C]you were [Am]gone,
[F]farewell Johnny [G]Miner

These are very simple chords, nothing fancy, but it worked for me. If you think that these chords are wrong, please let me know.

T.


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Subject: Chord Add: For Johnny Miner
From: Sorcha
Date: 07 Sep 04 - 01:34 PM

Add for Turlough's post of 07 Sep 04 - 01:27 PM this thread.


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Subject: RE: Guitar Chords Required For Johnny Miner
From: Turlough
Date: 07 Sep 04 - 01:48 PM

Ehm, pardon, Sorcha?


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Subject: RE: Guitar Chords Required For Johnny Miner
From: GUEST,Chalkie
Date: 08 Sep 04 - 04:09 AM

Many thanks Turlough.

I sing in D, so I'll have a go at transposing


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Subject: RE: Guitar Chords Required For Johnny Miner
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 08 Sep 04 - 04:42 AM

It was written by Ed Pickford, who has a great website.

eric


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Subject: RE: Guitar Chords Required For Johnny Miner
From: Turlough
Date: 08 Sep 04 - 04:57 AM

You're welcome, Chalkie! And before you go transposing, put a capo on the second fret and try to play "my" chords. Of course, there is nothing wrong with playing this song in D, but I hate to switch from the D chord to the Bm chord: going from C to Am is just much easier (yeah, go ahead, call me lazy). Putting a capo on the second fret will transpose the chords "automatically"...

T.


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Subject: RE: Guitar Chords Required For Johnny Miner
From: nutty
Date: 08 Sep 04 - 01:41 PM

In the Ed Pickford Songbook the chords are slightly different from those shown above.

Intro.
[C] [Am] [G] [G]

Verse.
[C]Johnny Miner[Am]you were born
[F]Never to see the [C]rising dawn
[F]Now it's time that [C]you [G/B]were [Am]gone
[F]Farewell Johnny [G]Miner


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Farewell Johnny Miner (Ed Pickford)
From: Folkiedave
Date: 29 May 08 - 09:34 AM

Alistair Russell also recorded this on his CD A19.

He credits it to Ed Pigford.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Farewell Johnny Miner (Ed Pickford)
From: nutty
Date: 29 May 08 - 12:13 PM

When Easington Colliery closed I wrote another verse

The politicians will in time
Sound the death of every mine
And tell the world they're doing fine
Without you, Johnny Miner


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Farewell Johnny Miner (Ed Pickford)
From: Jon Bartlett
Date: 29 May 08 - 02:17 PM

Ah, the oral tradition. I sing the lines as:

1.2 Never to see the rising sun
3.1 You've battled hard with slate and shale

What I heard sounded very muddled and so I became a Rationalizer (is that the right term?). My thinking for 1.2: the dawn doesn't rise, the sun does.
And for 3.1 what I heard (can't remember now what it was) made no sense at all.

Now here's a question, mudcatters: should I now revert (courtesy of the DT) to the "correct" words or should I continue in my errant ways?

Jon Bartlett


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Farewell Johnny Miner (Ed Pickford)
From: GUEST,Ed Pickford
Date: 20 Feb 09 - 07:46 AM

The 'slate and shale' should be 'sliding scale' which was a method of working out wages. I do not know who changed the words - it happens.
Rising dawn - rising moon - rising sun - none of them rise - they only appear to rise because the Earth is turning. If lyrics had to pass a "rational" test I wonder what would have happened to Donovan's electric banana?
Ed Pickford


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Farewell Johnny Miner (Ed Pickford)
From: goatfell
Date: 20 Feb 09 - 11:24 AM

don't people remember rocords anymore,it's vinyl now, and record players it's decks, what has happened to people or am I getting old, or people of my age and older trying to be young


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Farewell Johnny Miner (Ed Pickford)
From: Ritchie
Date: 31 Dec 09 - 03:56 AM

"Now here's a question, mudcatters: should I now revert (courtesy of the DT) to the "correct" words or should I continue in my errant ways?"

You did n't have a hand in translating the 'Bible' by any chance, did you Jon?

Oh how I love this song .... it should be sung at every morning assembly ;-)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Farewell Johnny Miner (Ed Pickford)
From: GUEST, Sminky
Date: 14 Apr 10 - 08:41 AM

Always been slightly disappointed that Lancashire never got a mention, especially when you look at the number of recorded deaths:


Lancashire                      45223
Glamorgan                      28853
Durham                         12474
Yorkshire                      10265
Stafford                         9893
Monmouth                         8738
Lanark                           5841
Denbigh                         3686
Derby                            2978
Fife                            2468
Northumberland                   2399
Carmarthen                      2145
Cumberland                      2106
Ayr                              1949
Carnarvon                        1737
Cornwall                         1721
Merioneth                        1491
Gloucester                      1144
Worcester                        1134
Nottingham                      1100
Flint                            1093


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Farewell Johnny Miner (Ed Pickford)
From: GUEST,matt thorns
Date: 18 May 10 - 05:50 PM

My grandfather luke or sonny as his mates called him was a miner right from the age of 13 through the war and the strikes. He isnt around anymore i never got to ask him about what it was like for him through all that time what it was like. Wondered if anyone who was around in that time could tell about what life was like in this time.

I wont remember this website so i was wondering, people, if u could email me your thoughts. matt.thorns@yahoo.co.uk

A massive bonus would be if you could send me a rough outline of what the chords where so i could sing their song to my children.
cheers matt


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Subject: RE: lyr/chords: Farewell Johnny Miner (Ed Pickford)
From: GUEST,Christian Donovan
Date: 06 Jan 18 - 04:41 AM

(C)Johnny Miner(Em)you were born
(F)Never to see the(C)rising dawn
(F)Now it’s time that(C)you were(Am)gone
(F)Farewell(Dm)Johnny(G)Miner


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Subject: RE: lyr/chords: Farewell Johnny Miner (Ed Pickford)
From: GUEST,Wheatman
Date: 07 Jan 18 - 04:12 AM

I penned this last verse

You lost the fight in '85
When you fought to keep your pit alive
But the Iron Dame and the thin blue line
Forced the closure of your mine
So farewell Johnny Miner.


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