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Significant musical events during 1966

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Subject: Significant musical events during 1966
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 08 Sep 04 - 02:54 PM

My daughter is doing a college assignment about significant events during 1966. Each time I volunteered a musical reference, I was told " no, that was 1965" or " no, that was 1967".

So, what were the significant musical events of 1966 ?


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Subject: RE: Significant musical events during 1966
From: shepherdlass
Date: 08 Sep 04 - 03:03 PM

Hi Doug

Try May 1966 - I think this was the date of the infamous Dylan electric set at Manchester (with the "Judas" cry). Don't have more details than that but I'm sure the year's right.

Cheers
Jude


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Subject: RE: Significant musical events during 1966
From: Midchuck
Date: 08 Sep 04 - 04:41 PM

Death of Dick Farina. Memorial day. (IIRC).

Peter.


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Subject: RE: Significant musical events during 1966
From: GUEST,Stephen
Date: 08 Sep 04 - 04:49 PM

Yes, Dylan's world tour with the Hawks was 1966... a significant musical event if ever there was one!


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Subject: RE: Significant musical events during 1966
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 08 Sep 04 - 05:17 PM

Release of :
Incredible String Band's eponymous first album
Young Tradition (also eponymous) first album
Simon & Garfunkle's The Sounds of Silence
Martin Carthy's Second Album
Bert Jansch's second album It Don't Bother Me
and third, Jack Orion
Bert Jansch & John Renbourn first album
Sandy Denny begins singing in London clubs, and all the above were around all the time, the sun always shone, wine was 5/- (25p) a bottle, beer was 2/- (10p) a pint...


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Subject: RE: Significant musical events during 1966
From: Sttaw Legend
Date: 08 Sep 04 - 05:24 PM

I achieved my grade 3 violin exam - it was bloody significant to me.


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Subject: RE: Significant musical events during 1966
From: Sttaw Legend
Date: 08 Sep 04 - 05:32 PM

1966 Greatest Hits

1. Summer Wind - Frank Sinatra
2. Get Ready - Temptations
3. When A Man Loves A Woman - Percy Sledge
4. Wild Thing - The Troggs
5. Mustang Sally - Wilson Pickett
6. This Old Heart Of Mine - Isley Brothers
7. Good Lovin - Rascals
8. Devil With The Blue Dress - Mitch Ryder & The Detroit Wheels
9. I'm A Believer - the Monkees
10. You Can't Hurry Love - Supremes
11. Shake Me Wake Me - Four Tops
12. Wipe Out - Surfaris
13. But It's Alright - J J Jackson
14. Good Vibrations - Beach Boys
15. Hanky Panky - Tommy James
16. Time Won't Let Me - Outsiders
17. Crying Time - Ray Charles
18. Barbara Ann - Beach Boys
19. My World is Empty Without You - Supremes
20. Rainy Day Woman 12 & 35 - Bob Dylan
21. Cool Jerk - the Capitols
22. Land of 1,000 Dances - Wilson Pickett
23. I Fought The Law - Bobby Fuller Four
24. Summer In The City - Lovin' Spoonful
25. Mellow Yellow - Donovan
26. You Keep Me Hanging On - Supremes
27. Monday Monday - Mamas and the Papas
28. Lightning Strikes - Lou Christie
29. Strangers In The Night - Frank Sinatra
30. Working My Way Back To You - Four Seasons
31. California Dreamin' - Mamas and the Papas
32. Paperback Writer - Beatles
33. Sweet Talkin' Guy - Chiffons
34. Paint It, Black - Rolling Stones
35. Secret Agent Man - Johnny Rivers
36. Wouldn't It Be Nice - Beach Boys
37. 96 Tears - ? & the Mysterians
38. Black Is Black - Los Bravos
39. 19th Nervous Breakdown - Rolling Stones
40. See You In September - the Happenings


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Subject: RE: Significant musical events during 1966
From: jimmyt
Date: 08 Sep 04 - 06:55 PM

I graduated high school and started university


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Subject: RE: Significant musical events during 1966
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 08 Sep 04 - 08:19 PM

The Beatles record two break-through albums : Revolver and Rubber Soul


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Subject: RE: Significant musical events during 1966
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 08 Sep 04 - 08:29 PM

and Brian Wilson blazed new frontiers with the first concept album, Pet Sounds, in the process inventing production techniques and incorporating sounds and instruments not used before in the context of popular music.


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Subject: RE: Significant musical events during 1966
From: Abby Sale
Date: 08 Sep 04 - 08:54 PM

The Queen finally pardoned imothy Evans. It is said partly as a result of the MacColl song. (Evans couldn't have much cared at that point.)

A number of other notables died besides Farina -
A great vulgarian, Sophie Tucker, Feb 10
Bluesist Peg Leg Howell, Aug 11
MS. John Hurt, Nov 2
Washboard Sam (Robert Brown), Nov 6
"brother" Carter Stanley, Dec 1

Not much on births, tho.

Songwriter Millard Lampell won an Emmy. It matters because he'd been blacklisted in the McCarthy era, 1950

T. Crapper Brass & Co., Ld. finally went out of business 1966. Many songs have been written about their primary product. Or the lack thereof.

Kwanzaa began. It, too has several songs.


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Subject: RE: Significant musical events during 1966
From: Padre
Date: 08 Sep 04 - 09:44 PM

I was playing rhythm guitar with "The Rhoen Valley Boys" in Fulda, Germany. Seemed significant at the time (we were paid 200 DM and all the beer we could drink)

Padre


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Subject: RE: Significant musical events during 1966
From: fat B****rd
Date: 09 Sep 04 - 03:30 AM

I joined local soul band and became slightly famous (in Grimsby) for 18 months. Musically, Otis Redding became really famous.


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Subject: RE: Significant musical events during 1966
From: s&r
Date: 09 Sep 04 - 03:47 AM

1966 in music
January 16 - Metropolitan Opera House opens in Lincoln Center, New York City.
January 17 - Simon and Garfunkel release album Sounds of Silence.
October 10 - Simon and Garfunkel release album Parsley, Sage, Rosemary and Thyme.

August 29 - Beatles give last concert, in San Francisco.


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Subject: RE: Significant musical events during 1966
From: Kevin Sheils
Date: 09 Sep 04 - 03:51 AM

England won the World Cup. Sorry wrong discussion group.

Musically Sweeney's Men were formed by Andy Irvine, Johnny Moynihan and Joe Dolan (later replaced by Terry Woods, 1967).

I think that was the year I did my first paid gig at the Holloway Castle pub in London

BTW Countess, Beer was only 1/9 in the York And Albany near Cecil Sharp House and I remember it raining.


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Subject: RE: Significant musical events during 1966
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 09 Sep 04 - 04:09 AM

Are you admitting that you were old enough to drink it then?
;-)

The York & Albany - no wonder it's been demolished!   The Richard Steele (opposite the Enterprise had the cheapest beer that I remember, 1/10 in the public bar).    Everybody (except Kevin) lived in London NW3 where Bert Jansch was resident at the Dark Room and Jackson Frank played regularly.


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Subject: RE: Significant musical events during 1966
From: Dewey
Date: 09 Sep 04 - 04:43 AM

The Last Train To Clarksville was composed by Tommy Boyce And Bobby Hart,

First Recorded By the Monkeys, in August 1966,
Went to the #1 Slot In Billboard 1966
The Television Series, "The Monkees" soon to followed.

Have a complete Billboard Chart of songs For Year 1966, but it would be overkill to Publish It Here.

Sincerely,

Dewey


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Subject: RE: Significant musical events during 1966
From: Kevin Sheils
Date: 09 Sep 04 - 04:47 AM

Yes, I was 18 in 1966 but had been a regular at the York and Albany since going to a Youth Club at the top of Parkway in 1964!

Of course being still at School I lived at home and couldn't afford such luxuries as a NW3 residence, But spent a lot of time in the area and started going to the Enterprise. Do you remember who regularly played at "The Witches Cauldron"?

Slight thread drift I guess as it may have been 1966 but is it "significant".


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Subject: RE: Significant musical events during 1966
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 09 Sep 04 - 05:26 AM

Thanks, Straw Legend! What memories! I started high school that year, and that was the year my AM radio listening peaked, so I know every one of those songs, practically by heart! Wow..."Wipe Out," "Mellow Yellow," "Strangers in the Night" and "Rainy Day Women" all on the same list.

Aloha,
Mark


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Subject: RE: Significant musical events during 1966
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 09 Sep 04 - 05:28 AM

I agree with Countess Richard, NW3 was the place to be in 1966. Terry Gould was running the Hampstead Folk Club at "The Enterprise" with residents "The North West 3". The "Rosslyn Arms" sold a pint of bitter for 1/9, but you could buy Taunton Cider out of the barrel for 1/5.

I wasn't aware that "The Witches Cauldron" had any resident performers, it seemed to take over from "The Loft" when that was forced to close. I sang there a fair number of times, sometimes on my own and sometimes with "The Gaugers" (Dave "Biff" Bailey, Ian "Lurch" Sproat, and me). We also were residents at "The Roebuck", Tottenham Court Rd, one of Bruce Dunnett's many folk clubs.

There was also a club at "The Three Horseshoes" run at various times by "The Three City Four" and "The Tinkers".


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Subject: RE: Significant musical events during 1966
From: Joybell
Date: 09 Sep 04 - 06:30 AM

True-love wrote "The Great Chicago Drug Bust" and Steve Goodman heard him sing it somehow, somewhere, and made it a popular part of his repertoire. Joy


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Subject: RE: Significant musical events during 1966
From: Kevin Sheils
Date: 09 Sep 04 - 06:45 AM

I wasn't aware that "The Witches Cauldron" had any resident performers

There always seemed to be the same person playing there when I went, probably 'regular' perfomers rather than 'resident'.

There was also a club at "The Three Horseshoes" run at various times by "The Three City Four" and "The Tinkers".

And much later IIRC by a group called The Exiles but not the 'original' Exiles of Enoch Kent, Bobby Campbell and Gordon McCulloch.


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Subject: RE: Significant musical events during 1966
From: greg stephens
Date: 09 Sep 04 - 06:47 AM

Andy irvine, Johnny Moynihan and Joe Dolan teaming up to form Sweeney's Men in 66 was the most significant folkie event, surely.The use of bouzouki, mandoline, the whole approcah to harmony, trad songs,not to mention hair-styles revolutionised Irish folk music completely.Everything that has happened since, from Planxty on, sounded different because of what those guys did. Interestingly, Irvine and Moynihan were veterans of the British folk scene, and a lot of the experiments in London in the early 60's folk scene affected what came later in Ireland very strongly, in particular the near elimination of "three chord trick" style guitar playing from traditional song accompaniment by a lot of musicians. Some changes happen over a very broad front, in a lot of places at the same time. This great change in Irish music can be nailed down to what happened in the heads of thee men in 1966, as far as I can judge. Jonny Moynihan, by the way, is still going strong, though he hasnt got a big public profile. I have played with him often in the last few years.


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Subject: RE: Significant musical events during 1966
From: Kevin Sheils
Date: 09 Sep 04 - 07:43 AM

And when I posted about Sweeneys Men I failed to plug the fact that Andy Irvine is appearing tonight at the Old Rose & Crown, Walthamstow London, as mentioned oin anither thread.

I agree with Greg that the formation of Sweeneys Men was of massive significance, although the later formation of Planxty out of Christie Moore's prosperous Album sessions seems to get a higher profile.

In many ways the London and UK music scene in the 50's and 60's was later a great influence on the revival in Ireland. It was certainly easier to find sessions and Irish trad music in London at that time, than back in Ireland when I visited family on holidays. My cousins were mostly into Showbands and Country and Western music. Although I guess that there was more to be found further West, my family were Meath and Dublin based where traditional music seeemed forgotten.


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Subject: RE: Significant musical events during 1966
From: GUEST,T-boy
Date: 09 Sep 04 - 08:31 AM

Didn't a certain Bob Dylan break his neck? (This could have been even more significant than it actually was).

Plus he released Blonde on Blonde including Sad Eyed Lady ...


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Subject: RE: Significant musical events during 1966
From: C-flat
Date: 09 Sep 04 - 12:59 PM

Some interesting facts here.


C-flat.


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Subject: RE: Significant musical events during 1966
From: GUEST,milk monitor
Date: 09 Sep 04 - 01:30 PM

Zappa released FREAK OUT!. His first album with The Mothers of Invention. Significantly a double album, unususal for a debut, and the start of one hell of a career. Love him.


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Subject: RE: Significant musical events during 1966
From: pdq
Date: 09 Sep 04 - 01:37 PM

Ricky Nelson released "Bright Lights and Country Music", arguably the first example of country-rock. Within the next two years, The Byrds, The International Submarine Band, and even The Beau Brummels (with "Bradley's Farm") did country-rock albums.

Later to follow were The Eagles, Linda Ronstadt, Enmmylou Harris, The Flying Burrito Brothers....

Although not all early exponents were Californians, that state produced the movement which took Country away from Nashville corporate interests and gave it to the artists. That battle is still ongoing.


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Subject: RE: Significant musical events during 1966
From: Wyrd Sister
Date: 09 Sep 04 - 01:46 PM

I think it was 1966 I first saw/heard Martin Carthy and Dave Swarbrick perform together


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Subject: RE: Significant musical events during 1966
From: Dave Sutherland
Date: 09 Sep 04 - 03:45 PM

Carthy and Swarbrick played one of their first folk club gigs togther at Birtley in the summer of 1966 this was just before Jack Elliott of Birtley, our greatest urban traditional singer, died.
Dylan also got a tough time at Newcastle Odeon in the May of that year, shepheardlass. I was there.


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Subject: RE: Significant musical events during 1966
From: GUEST,Obie
Date: 09 Sep 04 - 04:21 PM

This was the first year that I felt that the older stuff was better. Listened less to radio and more to those old lp's.


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Subject: RE: Significant musical events during 1966
From: Merina
Date: 09 Sep 04 - 06:03 PM

Witches Cauldron always had Mox (v. long haired harmonica player) and John Le Mont (nifty blues guitarist) as resident whenever I went there, just confirmed by looking at old MM cutting. Where are they now? Mox last heard of living in Paris recording under full name Mox Gowland.


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Subject: RE: Significant musical events during 1966
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 10 Sep 04 - 02:45 AM

Thanks for all the info. I've passed it on!


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Subject: RE: Significant musical events during 1966
From: Kevin Sheils
Date: 10 Sep 04 - 04:10 AM

Yhanks Merina, those names (and descriptions) certainly ring a bell.

Do you have many old MM cuttings? Some of the listings from that time would bring back good memories.


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Subject: RE: Significant musical events during 1966
From: Folkie
Date: 10 Sep 04 - 08:21 AM

My first visit to a folk club was in September 1966. I was 16 and was there without my mother's permission as she thought folk clubs were dens of iniquity. Cyril Tawney was the guest and, more significantly, I met my other half.


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Subject: RE: Significant musical events during 1966
From: greg stephens
Date: 10 Sep 04 - 01:19 PM

A minor musical historical footnote: in 1966 the statue of Admiral Nelson in Dublin spontaneously and mysteriously decomposed. The Clanceys and the Dubliners both had good songs out within what seemed liked minutes of the event, and I think there may have been other songs as well. And, unlike many other terrorist events, nobody was hurt, and a good laugh was had by all. (but the Paddies had better keep their hands off Nelson's Column, or there will be trouble)


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Subject: RE: Significant musical events during 1966
From: Ron Davies
Date: 11 Sep 04 - 09:55 AM

Don't know how it was in the UK, but in the US, for my money it was the alltime best year in the rock era as far as the charts were concerned.

All had huge hits: Beatles, Stones, Kinks, Seekers, Temptations, Percy Sledge, Lovin' Spoonful, Supremes, Miracles, Marvalettes, Mamas and Papas, 4 Tops, Otis Redding and Carla Thomas (think it was called "Tramp"), Simon and Garfunkel, Beach Boys, Ray Charles.

Can't think of another year with a better lineup.


(passing mercifully over the Monkees--- and Tommy James and the Shondells' "My Baby Does the Hanky Panky," a song which blazed new trails of profundity.)


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Subject: RE: Significant musical events during 1966
From: Kevin Sheils
Date: 11 Sep 04 - 10:27 AM

Greg

Not only were the songs of the Nelson Pillar incident out amazingly quickly, but a least 3 or 4 pubs in London claimed to have the original head of the Statue IIRC.


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Subject: RE: Significant musical events during 1966
From: Peg
Date: 11 Sep 04 - 11:27 AM

I believe the members of The Moody Blues and Jefferson Airplane were smoking a lot of dope and having a lot of sex.

See "Great Albums of 1967."


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Subject: RE: Significant musical events during 1966
From: Folkiedave
Date: 11 Sep 04 - 01:51 PM

Saw Martin Carthy, Diz Disley and Dave Swarbrick together. Still a great album.

Saw Young Tradition and Watersons together on same bill - Watersons were billed as the Waterson Quartette. (!!)

Best regards,

Dave


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Subject: RE: Significant musical events during 1966
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 11 Sep 04 - 01:58 PM

Surely the greatest hit of 1966 must have been 'World Cup Willy'
Well it was at my primary school anyway :0)


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Subject: RE: Significant musical events during 1966
From: Sttaw Legend
Date: 11 Sep 04 - 02:40 PM

Kinks released the album Face To Face in 1966 which included Sunny Afternoon.

Ray Davies wrote David Watts in 1966 and released it in 1967 on the album Something Else.

Bob Dylan World Tour


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Subject: RE: Significant musical events during 1966
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 11 Sep 04 - 07:31 PM

Peg...did you mean with one another? And the albums came out how many months later?

Aloha,
Mark


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Subject: RE: Significant musical events during 1966
From: GUEST,CB James
Date: 11 Sep 04 - 09:40 PM

I coulda sworn the Lovin' Spoonfull was singing "Hot Town ! Summer in the City!...." and the Cirkle (sp) was singing "Red Rubber Ball" that July when at age fifteen I arrived back in southern Ontario after four years in France. That was pretty significant. At least the spoonfull was. Red rubber ball was actually sort of a stupid song. We even thought so at the time. Catchy though.


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Subject: RE: Significant musical events during 1966
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 11 Sep 04 - 09:49 PM

CB, I think you're right about the Cyrkle's "Red Rubber Ball" coming out in 1966. That song was written by Paul Simon...I think it was the first of his songs to be recorded, though I might be wrong about that.

Aloha,
Mark


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Subject: RE: Significant musical events during 1966
From: Ron Davies
Date: 12 Sep 04 - 07:26 AM

Absolutely.

1966 was the year for Red Rubber Ball,, which is indeed by Paul Simon. I remember getting stuck that year writing a paper all night ( as the probably unchallenged king of procrastination), and hearing that song, as the sun came up. I remember thinking at the time that that wasn't exactly what the song was about.


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