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Lyr Req: Bangtail Muster (Ted Egan)

Kitty 09 Sep 04 - 04:58 PM
Margret RoadKnight 09 Sep 04 - 09:22 PM
Sorcha 09 Sep 04 - 09:44 PM
GUEST,Art Thieme 10 Sep 04 - 10:14 PM
cnd 18 Aug 15 - 11:51 PM
Sandra in Sydney 19 Aug 15 - 03:45 AM
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cnd 19 Aug 15 - 09:51 AM
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Subject: Lyr Req: Bangtail Muster
From: Kitty
Date: 09 Sep 04 - 04:58 PM

I love this song and want to learn it but it has some words that are in "Australian...." and I ain't. Would appreciate some help. Specifically, can't understand the names of the tribes.

Thanks bunches


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bangtail Muster
From: Margret RoadKnight
Date: 09 Sep 04 - 09:22 PM

"Bangtail Muster"
by Ted Egan - try his website


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bangtail Muster
From: Sorcha
Date: 09 Sep 04 - 09:44 PM

Ted Egan's site. No lyrics, but there is a newsletter you can sign up for....sorry.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bangtail Muster
From: GUEST,Art Thieme
Date: 10 Sep 04 - 10:14 PM

Beat him on the butt with a bangtail muster,
Beat him on the butt with a bangtail muster,
Beat him on the butt with a bangtail muster,
Ear-ly in the morning...

What shall we do with the bangtail muster...

What the hell is a bangtail muster,
What the hell is a bangtail muster,
What the hell is a bangtail muster,
Ear-ly in the morning?

Way, hey, and up she rises,
Ear-ly in the morning.

Art ;-)


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Subject: req: Bangtail Muster (Ted Egan)
From: cnd
Date: 18 Aug 15 - 11:51 PM

Video available here

I'll also (try) to explain the Australia terms here, when I think applicable.

Lyrics:

BANGTAIL MUSTER
(Ted Eagan)

In the Outback, it's a pretty big job
When a cattle-man has to tally his mob
So they have what the Bushies*(1) call a bangtail muster*(2)

Every ringer*(3) lends a hand
Every cleanskin*(4) cuts a brand
And you bang 'em on the tail when you count 'em at the bangtail muster

And we all sing "Muster 'em up, count 'em all, about
Put 'em in the big yard--chase 'em 'round, about
Pick up the mob; we're havin' a bangtail muster!"

Muster 'em up, count 'em all, about
Put 'em in the big yard--chase 'em 'round, about
Pick up the mob; we're havin' a bangtail muster!

Now every year, in the month of May
People come from miles away
To the great little town of Alice Springs
And for days and nights all of Alice swings

Everybody heads for town
And it doesn't matter if you're black, white or brown
'Cause you'll knock out a mighty fine time at the bangtail muster

And we all sing "Muster 'em up, count 'em all, about
Come to The Alice*(5), dance and sing and shout
Head for the center, we're havin' a bangtail muster, oh yeah!"

And we all sing "Muster 'em up, count 'em all, about
Come to The Alice, dance and sing and shout
Head for the center, we're havin' a bangtail muster!

The Warlipri*(6) come from Yuendumu*(7)
And Nosepeck*(8) brings in the Pintupi*(6), too
Yes, all the tribes are in for the bangtail muster

People from the cattle stations
Come to town for the celebrations
Led by Wallaby Bill at the bangtail muster

And we all sing "Muster 'em up, count 'em all, about
Come to the Alice, dance and sing and shout
Head for the center, we're havin' a bangtail muster!"

Muster 'em up, count 'em all, about
Come to the Alice, dance and sing and shout
Head for the center, we're havin' a bangtail muster!

In Todd Street, there's a big parade
So why not join in the cavalcade
You can ride on the camel terrain at the bangtail muster

Or if you want to take a chance
You can learn to do the Kangaroo Dance
To the music of the didgeridoo at the bangtail muster

And we all sing "Muster 'em up, count 'em all, about
Come to the Alice, dance and sing and shout
Head for the center, we're havin' a bangtail muster!"

Muster 'em up, count 'em all, about
Come to The Alice, dance and sing and shout
Head for the center, we're havin' a bangtail muster!
Head for the center, we're havin' a bangtail muster!
Come to The Alice, we're havin' a bangtail muster!

*(1) Though I've found no evidence to prove it, I suspect this is a derogatory term for the aboriginals
*(2) Counting cattle by hitting their tails with a stick
*(3) A farmer who works solely with cattle
*(4) An un-branded animal
*(5) a nick-name for the town of Alice Springs
*(6) aboriginal Australian tribes
*(7) towns
*(8) I can't seem to find a town name matching what I'm hearing here, but it sounds like nosepike/nosepeck
    See more complete versions below. -Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bangtail Muster (Ted Egan)
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 19 Aug 15 - 03:45 AM

Bashies are people who live in the bush (ie. outside the cities), Ted Egan would never use a derogatory term for Aboriginal people.

ringer - original meaning was a highly skilled sheep shearer (eg. Click go the shears) but now also used for a stockman, a man (or woman) who works with cattle.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockman_%28Australia%29

A farmer grows crops & might have a few animals, a grazier owns a property with lots of stock.

the Pintupi reference is an interesting one!



In Todd Street, there's a big parade
So why not join in the cavalcade
You can ride on the camel terrain at the bangtail muster

Would camel 'terrain' be camel train?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bangtail Muster (Ted Egan)
From: GUEST,#
Date: 19 Aug 15 - 09:19 AM

Likely camel train is correct. Australia imported camels way back and the animals thrived. But I recall reading they didn't get established due to a breeding stock that was too small.

Also, Australian Aboriginal people have a kinship system that is country-wide (based on language groupings although it's more complicated than that) and extremely complex. The following map will give the viewer an idea of just how complex.

http://www.mappery.com/map-of/Australia-Aboriginal-Tribes-Map

The Pintupi are one tribal group. The word of which cnd is not sure maybe refers to a means of transport or a person(?). I haven't been able to hear the song although I'm not sure that would help. (I'm Canadian and we are the only people who speak actual unaccented English, so figuring out words when our linguistic relatives say them can at times be a challenge :-))

Note that Sandra is an informed Australian and knows whereof she speaks. Hopefully, more Ozites will contribute to this thread.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bangtail Muster (Ted Egan)
From: cnd
Date: 19 Aug 15 - 09:51 AM

Thanks. I, too, am not Australian, so she likely knows more than me regarding some of those matters. I thought it was camel train, but when I listened to the video, I distinctly heard an "a" sound between the t and r. Possibly just a dramatic pronunciation of "train," thought.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bangtail Muster (Ted Egan)
From: cnd
Date: 19 Aug 15 - 12:45 PM

On second listen, though, train sounds much more correct. I have contacted Mr. Egan regarding a couple of questions about the song (what "Nosepeck" is and the author of the song), and I will post his response if/when he gets back to me.


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Subject: ADD: Bangtail Muster (Ted Egan)
From: cnd
Date: 19 Aug 15 - 10:17 PM

Mr. Egan's response:

Dear Max
Good question.

Yes, I wrote the song. First Bangtail Muster Festival was in 1969 in Alice Springs and I was on the committee.

"Nosepeg" Jabaljari was a very famous and highly esteemed First Australian, a Pintubi ? sometimes in those days referred to as the Bindaboos.
He was called "Nosepeg" because he, like most other adult Aboriginals of the period had a pierced septum through which they inserted for cermonial reasons, a "marabindi", usually a kangaroo or an emu bone. The name was deemed particularly appropriate in that Nosepeg assisted in searching for Lasseter when he was lost. They used camels and "Nosepeg" always noted his affinity to the fact that domesticated camels have to have a peg in their noses for control purposes: being ruminants, they can not tolerate a steel bit like horses.

He was a great bloke, with a wicked sense of humour. Check him out in various Google spots: I think there was a film made about him

And have a look at my webpage for other songs

Cheers

So that effectively answers our few remaining questions, and we can now post the corrected lyrics:

BANGTAIL MUSTER
(Ted Egan)

In the Outback, it's a pretty big job
When a cattle-man has to tally his mob
So they have what the Bashies*(1) call a bangtail muster*(2)

Every ringer*(3) lends a hand
Every cleanskin*(4) cuts a brand
And you bang 'em on the tail when you count 'em at the bangtail muster

And we all sing "Muster 'em up, count 'em all, about
Put 'em in the big yard--chase 'em 'round, about
Pick up the mob; we're havin' a bangtail muster!"

Muster 'em up, count 'em all, about
Put 'em in the big yard--chase 'em 'round, about
Pick up the mob; we're havin' a bangtail muster!

Now every year, in the month of May
People come from miles away
To the great little town of Alice Springs
And for days and nights all of Alice swings

Everybody heads for town
And it doesn't matter if you're black, white or brown
'Cause you'll knock out a mighty fine time at the bangtail muster

And we all sing "Muster 'em up, count 'em all, about
Come to The Alice, dance and sing and shout
Head for the center, we're havin' a bangtail muster, oh yeah!"

Muster 'em up, count 'em all, about
Come to The Alice, dance and sing and shout
Head for the center, we're havin' a bangtail muster!

The Warlipri*(5) come from Yuendumu*(6)
And Nosepeg*(7) brings in the Pintupi*(5), too
Yes, all the tribes are in for the bangtail muster

People from the cattle stations
Come to town for the celebrations
Led by Wallaby Bill at the bangtail muster

And we all sing "Muster 'em up, count 'em all, about
Come to the Alice, dance and sing and shout
Head for the center, we're havin' a bangtail muster!"

Muster 'em up, count 'em all, about
Come to the Alice, dance and sing and shout
Head for the center, we're havin' a bangtail muster!

In Todd Street, there's a big parade
So why not join in the cavalcade
You can ride on the camel train at the bangtail muster

Or if you want to take a chance
You can learn to do the Kangaroo Dance
To the music of the didgeridoo at the bangtail muster

And we all sing "Muster 'em up, count 'em all, about
Come to the Alice, dance and sing and shout
Head for the center, we're havin' a bangtail muster!"

Muster 'em up, count 'em all, about
Come to The Alice, dance and sing and shout
Head for the center, we're havin' a bangtail muster!
Head for the center, we're havin' a bangtail muster!
Come to The Alice, we're havin' a bangtail muster!

*(1) people who live in the bush of Australia
*(2) counting cattle by hitting their tails with a stick
*(3) A highly-skilled sheep shearer/a stockman in general
*(4) An un-branded animal
*(5) aboriginal Australian tribes
*(6) towns
*(7) "Nosepeg" Jabaljari was an important person from the Pintupi tribe


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bangtail Muster (Ted Egan)
From: GUEST,Frank
Date: 20 Aug 15 - 04:49 AM

Guest:
'Likely camel train is correct. Australia imported camels way back and the animals thrived. But I recall reading they didn't get established due to a breeding stock that was too small.'
Not So.
The feral camel population in Australia is quite a problem.
We have been exporting live breeding stock to the Middle East for some time for breeding purposes in their racing industry, together with the meat trade.

http://www.camelsaust.com.au

The 'Alice" (Alice Springs) has an annual Camel Cup event.
http://www.camelcup.com.au


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bangtail Muster (Ted Egan)
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 20 Aug 15 - 10:28 AM

Ted Egan is a good bloke & very approachable, & it would appear also very prompt at answering enquiries.

sandra


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bangtail Muster (Ted Egan)
From: GUEST,#
Date: 20 Aug 15 - 11:22 AM

Thanks, Frank. Live and learn.


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