Subject: Lyr Add: Robert Burns & 'Peri-Periwinkle' From: John M. Date: 21 Sep 04 - 02:04 PM Dear Mudcat, Here is the bawdy song Peri-Periwinkle (119KB) which was collected on 7 May 2004 from Tommy "Fuk Stic" Tarka. This song is ultimately derived from a ribald song collected by Robert Burns: "The Bob O' Dunblane".
Since I have been told to only have one song text per post, more will follow. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Robert Burns & 'Peri-Periwinkle' From: John M. Date: 21 Sep 04 - 02:05 PM
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Robert Burns & 'Peri-Periwinkle' From: John M. Date: 21 Sep 04 - 02:07 PM
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Robert Burns & 'Peri-Periwinkle' From: John M. Date: 21 Sep 04 - 02:12 PM For completeness here is the original Scotts ribaldry collected by Robert Burns which prompted the cleaned up version, the parody and the modern survival:
Gargoyle according to the Mudcat archives, you have known the "Peri-Periwinkle" song since at least 1991. May I ask where and when you learned the song?
Thanks Murray for identifing the song and giving me the texts from your Musa Proterva. Sincerely, John Mehlberg (2) According to Murray Shoolbraid's Musa Proterva MS, this text was collected by Robert Burns. The text is printed in Kinsley (p. 804, no. 513, with music), from the Watson MS. (1136: Burns' letter to Johnson, autumn of 1795). DIV> |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Robert Burns & 'Peri-Periwinkle' From: Lighter Date: 21 Sep 04 - 04:35 PM John Mehlberg: This is amazing and overlooked material. The link to "Jessie, the Flower of Dunblane" is surprising but, I think, undeniable. On the other hand, the song from the "Merry Muses" is in a different meter and bears what looks to me like just a coincidental resemblance: outdoors, illegitimate pregnancy, rhyming on "Dunblane" (a good rhyming word). Your website will only increase in value to researchers. It's astonishing. I hope you'll post more of this older (as well as newer) material to Mudcat. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Robert Burns & 'Peri-Periwinkle' From: Lighter Date: 21 Sep 04 - 09:24 PM I hear the words a little differently: "tripped on her dress ?on" "wee winkle" "proceeded to ride her" |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Robert Burns & 'Peri-Periwinkle' From: Lighter Date: 21 Sep 04 - 10:09 PM Burns's song is partially a recollection of Allan Ramsay's poem, "The Bob of Dunblane," published in his "Miscellaneous Works" in 1724: Lassie, lend me your braw Hemp Heckle, And I'll lend you my Thrippling Kame; For Fainness, Dearie, I'll gar ye keckle, If ye'll go dance the Bob of Dunblane. Hast ye, gang to the Ground of ye'r Trunkies, Busk ye braw, and dinna think Shame; Consider in Time, if leading of Monkies Be better than dancing the Bob of Dunblane. Be frank, my Lassie, lest I grow fickle, And tak my Word and Offer again, Syne ye may chance to repent it mickle, Ye didna accept of the Bob of Dunblane. The Dinner, the Piper and Priest shall be ready, And I'm grown dowie with lying my lane, Away then leave baith Minny and Dad[d]y, And try with me the Bob of Dunblane. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Robert Burns & 'Peri-Periwinkle' From: Jim Dixon Date: 23 Sep 04 - 07:56 AM The last verse of PERI-PERIWINKLE (or something very close to it) has already been posted as a separate song in the following threads: Ach du lieber Augustin Lyr Req: All the Little Angels 'Teasing' songs However, I was surprised to see two versions of the pun, one using British pronunciation: "are sent up" / "arse end up" and one using American: "ascend up" / "ass end up" I would expect Australians to use the British pronunciation. I'm not sure about Canadians. What nationality is your informant? Can anyone explain two different accents in the same song? |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Robert Burns & 'Peri-Periwinkle' From: John M. Date: 23 Sep 04 - 01:19 PM Thanks for the Mudcat thread links. My informant is an American Hasher, age 30 and a chemical engineer. He learned his version from Ian, a British expartiot, who is living in NY City. My informant says that Ian has contributed many unusual songs to the Hash Hymnal and is perhaps the source for this song amongst Hashers. There was some concern that the text I posted for Peri-Periwinkle was too similiar to the text posted by Gargoyle back in 2001 but Gargoyle seems to have gotten hold of a Hash House hymnal and pasted the texts in to his threads. The Songs and Rhymes of the RAAF is the earliest date for the song and is Australian (RAAF = Royal Australian Air Force). I need to look at it again to see if it uses the Arse or Ass pun. Thanks again. John Mehlberg ~ My bawdy songs, toasts, and recitations website: www.immortalia.com |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Robert Burns & 'Peri-Periwinkle' From: Lighter Date: 23 Sep 04 - 05:59 PM It says "arse." And what were they thinking when they named this new automobile the "Ascender"? BTW, the "bob" in "The Bob of Dunblane" is literally a dance. The double-entendre seems inevitable, but Ramsay was known for his reluctance to "offend the modest ear." |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Peri-Periwinkle (Robert Burns?) From: keberoxu Date: 19 Oct 20 - 07:08 PM That one about the angels figures prominently, as I recall, in Terry Pratchett's Night Watch. And I don't remember which Terry Pratchett book opines that periwinkles are the snot of the seas, but I have never forgotten the opinion. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Peri-Periwinkle (Robert Burns?) From: and e Date: 06 Apr 23 - 10:27 AM Here's an old traditional song from north of the borderTranscribed from the 1963 LP Songs for Gay Dogs by Patty Roberts |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Peri-Periwinkle (Robert Burns?) From: and e Date: 06 Jun 23 - 10:03 PM tune - Ach, du Licher Augustine. Page 113 of The Canfield Collection. c1926 See online here: https://archive.org/details/1926canfieldcollection/page/n113/mode/2up?view=theater |
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