BS: Bush is an arrogant asshole.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush is an arrogant asshole.
From: GUEST,Young Guy
Date: 31 Oct 04 - 12:57 AM

"Americans of Mideast descent for Bush again"
http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/viewpoints/articles/1031phares1031.html

Subject: RE: BS: Bush is an arrogant asshole.
From: pdq
Date: 30 Oct 04 - 05:16 PM

...well, let's see...

George W. Bush is an arrogant asshole
Franklin D. Roosevelt was a arrogant asshole
Woodrow Wilson was an arrogant asshole
Abraham Lincoln was an arrogant asshole
Andrew Jackson was an arrogant asshole

...just think of this as a Rorschach test in "pattern recognition"...

Subject: RE: BS: Bush is an arrogant asshole.
From: Peace
Date: 30 Oct 04 - 04:28 PM

Osama is proof that some mammals should eat their young. Lots like Bush in that regard.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush is an arrogant asshole.
From: Amos
Date: 30 Oct 04 - 10:35 AM

Well apparently McCain says Osama is proof we should vote for Bush. All I cans ay is I ain't a gonna do it. I have my standards and voting for that low-life double-faced, twisty-tongued cross-eyed sonofabush is below them.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Bush is an arrogant asshole.
From: GUEST,Arfie
Date: 30 Oct 04 - 07:53 AM

A vote for Kerry is a vote for Osama.

Arf Arf

Subject: RE: BS: Bush is an arrogant asshole.
From: Amos
Date: 29 Oct 04 - 04:47 PM

According to today's news Osama Bin Laden agrees that Bush is an asshole. I don't know whether this means we should vote for him or note, but I have many other reasons for wanting him out of office.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Bush is an arrogant asshole.
From: Ebbie
Date: 29 Oct 04 - 04:46 PM

Last night Jay Leno asked the audience if they were familiar with 'freudian slip'? Then he showed a clip of Bush working a crowd. Bush says, 'The Iraqi insurgents want us to leave Iraq. They know they would be better off if we leave. I agree. The world would be better off if we leave. Uh, uh, I mean, the world would NOT be better off if we leave.'

Subject: RE: BS: Bush is an arrogant asshole.
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 29 Oct 04 - 04:20 PM

Asshole song about Bush

Subject: RE: BS: Bush is an arrogant asshole.
From: GUEST,Arnie
Date: 28 Oct 04 - 07:07 PM

Yes, Democrats 3 Republicans 0

3 Democrats seen on TV stealing Bush Cheney signs

Arnie

Subject: RE: BS: Bush is an arrogant asshole.
From: Bill D
Date: 28 Oct 04 - 06:18 PM

nice video! He must have practiced that for his U.N. appearance!

it's here, also http://static.vidvote.com/movies/bushuncensored.mov

Subject: RE: BS: Bush is an arrogant asshole.
From: Peace
Date: 28 Oct 04 - 03:53 PM

Does anyone have hard data to do with the pending election?

Subject: RE: BS: Bush is an arrogant asshole.
From: Amos
Date: 28 Oct 04 - 01:26 PM

The Berkshire Eagle's feelings:

Not wishing to call attention to its abysmal record of failure at home and abroad, the Bush administration's campaign strategy has been to prey on America's fears of the world and of change. America has long been a source of hope to the world, and if it is once again, it will find that it has allies in the hard fight against the forces of terror. A Kerry administration would give us a proud America untainted by the arrogance of the Bush White House.

There is no underestimating the importance of this election, given what President Bush has put America through for four years and the perils that lie ahead in a second Bush administration. John Kerry will restore America to the right track, domestically and internationally, and The Eagle endorses him for president of the United States.

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A

Subject: RE: BS: Bush is an arrogant asshole.
From: Amos
Date: 28 Oct 04 - 01:19 PM

True feelings get revealed in this Quicktime movie of the President being himself. (Requires Quicktime, obviously).

A

Subject: RE: BS: Bush is an arrogant asshole.
From: GUEST,Clint Keller
Date: 26 Oct 04 - 01:21 AM

"Searching for enlightenment" eh, Old Guy?

I don't know for sure what enlightenment is, but I know for sure that mocking at what you don't understand is a characteristic of the unenlightened.
____

enlighten
1. To give spiritual or intellectual insight to.
2. To give information to; inform or instruct.
____

Who but a fool would choose to remain ignorant rather than become enlightened?

clint

Subject: RE: BS: Bush is an arrogant asshole.
From: Amos
Date: 25 Oct 04 - 03:18 PM

Hey, it worked for Loony Boy!!! 'Course my version didn't cost ten million dollars.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Bush is an arrogant asshole.
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Oct 04 - 12:55 PM

Subject: RE: BS: Bush is an arrogant asshole.
From: Old Guy
Date: 24 Oct 04 - 01:19 PM

That old black magic has Amos in it's spell.-
That old black Magic that Kerry weaves so well.
Those icy fingers up and down his spine.
The same old witchcraft that makes his eyes go blind.
The same old tingle that he feels inside
whenever the polls start to rise
and down and down he goes
round and round he goes
like a leaf
that's caught in a tide
He could stay away but what can he do?
He hears Kerry's name
and he's all aflame
Aflame with such blind desire
In a spin, loving the spin he's in
Under that old black magic called Kerry!

Old Guy

Subject: RE: BS: Bush is an arrogant asshole.
From: GUEST,Old Guy
Date: 23 Oct 04 - 04:08 PM

Amos declares Victory. Long may he reign.

Old Guy

Subject: RE: BS: Bush is an arrogant asshole.
From: Amos
Date: 23 Oct 04 - 04:05 PM

Bush is both arrogant and an asshole. But that's enough of this.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Bush is an arrogant asshole.
From: GUEST,Old Guy
Date: 23 Oct 04 - 02:32 PM

Searching for enlightenment.

OOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.

Old guy

Subject: RE: BS: Bush is an arrogant asshole.
From: beardedbruce
Date: 23 Oct 04 - 02:40 AM

Clint,

A very good post. Thank you.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush is an arrogant asshole.
From: GUEST,Clint Keller
Date: 23 Oct 04 - 02:38 AM

"So military people are stupid now?"

Amos didn't say that and I don't think Amos meant that. From my experience in the army, the military has a culture of its own, and it's not a democracy, for one thing. (No more than a corporation is a democracy.) This culture affects their viewpoint; why wouldn't it?

Army culture is very like the culture of a univerity, which is pretty insular too, though not as overtly autocratic.The army has Officers and Men, the University has Faculty and Staff. This culture affects their viewpoint; why wouldn't it?

The military solve things by force; universities have seminars and workshops. Force doesn't always work and seminars don't always work.

There are still some counter-culturists around, but love doesn't always work either. It's worth trying, though.

And so on.

None of them necessarily have a balanced view of the world, nor do any of us. Some do better than others; I think that 'enlightenment' is the ability to think outside your culture.

clint

Subject: RE: BS: Bush is an arrogant asshole.
From: GUEST,Old Guy
Date: 23 Oct 04 - 02:37 AM

Thanks for the compliment Amos. I got to go to bed now, I am worn out from all of this fun.

Old Guy

Subject: RE: BS: Bush is an arrogant asshole.
From: Amos
Date: 23 Oct 04 - 02:20 AM

I am grudgingly willing to admit that you are right about that last point -- it is clear that you like him. It is arguable that he is human.

But he is a decrepit, low-grade, poor-minded kind of human, who doesn't have the character to be called a President in my view. As for phony, I suggest you weigh the false reports of the two gentleman side by side. I think you'll find that Bush has lied more vociferously, about more things, than John Kerry has.

You don't need me to keep you smart, though, OG!! You've shown over and over that you are smart...about most things, anyway.

Just not in this case.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Bush is an arrogant asshole.
From: GUEST,Old Guy
Date: 23 Oct 04 - 02:08 AM

They signed up after 9/11 because they felt the war was the right thing to do. But not now
The Annenburg poll disproves this.

Amos:

So military people are stupid now? If the stats don't jive with your dogma it must be wrong? However if any poll whatsoever shows Kerry 1 point ahead of Bush, trumpets blare.

Kerry supporters are either hittin' the old wacky terbacky or drinking Kerry Kool Aid. Something has their brain seized up.

Actually it is a modernized version of "put that in your pipe and smoke it".

The intelligence of the military is depressed and the inteligence of Kerry supporters is superior? Whatever you say Amos, you are smarter than me. I need you to keep me straight.

I explained that everybody I know is for Bush, even my lifelong born and raised Democrat wife, and I can't imagine why people would want to vote for a Phony.

Maybe Bush is not the greatist but he is human and I like him. He is not a Phony.

Old Guy

Subject: RE: BS: Bush is an arrogant asshole.
From: Amos
Date: 23 Oct 04 - 01:32 AM

What's that supposed to mean, Old Guy? That you think those who disapprove of Looney-Boy are on drugs? Out of touch with reality? There are a lot of possible reasons for your statistic, and one of them is bad sampling. Another is that military people are not well equipped to judge the best path for national prosperity or well-being. They would be more inclined, I suppose, to pick someone who was in favor of their specialty, the reality they have been trained in -- namely, overwhelming others by force, killing in large numbers, and steamrolling dissident viewpoints.

We have a military in order to do these things to enemies. Naturally, living their lives in the study of destruction, they would want a leader who would lead them to exerciser those morbid talents.

There's a LOT more to the nation than the military though, so I have no idea what your statistic means in context. Except that the intelligence of the military is depressed.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Bush is an arrogant asshole.
From: GUEST,Old Guy
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 11:43 PM

Here is what a Annenberg poll of the American Military says:

"Military personnel and their families overwhelmingly favor President Bush over Sen. John Kerry, a new poll says.

More than two-thirds of service people surveyed by the University of Pennsylvania's Annenberg Policy Center said they would trust Bush, who served in the Air National Guard during the Vietnam War, as their commander-in-chief more than Kerry.

Nearly a quarter of the sample chose Kerry, a Navy commander in Vietnam during the war."
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/2849914

Put that in your bong and puff on it.

Old Guy

Subject: RE: BS: Bush is an arrogant asshole.
From: Peace
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 08:33 PM

I recall a line from a MASH episode in which Col Potter was asked, after a long evening of surgery, "When did the war start for you, Colonel?" Potter replied, "Well, for me it started in 1917 . . . ."

Subject: RE: BS: Bush is an arrogant asshole.
From: vega
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 08:10 PM

"You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, and the tallest guy in the NBA is
Chinese. The Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the US of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the 3 most powerful men in America are named 'Bush', 'Dick', and 'Colon'.         Need I say more?

Read a story in the Washington post that interview troops stationed in Iraq. Men who are involved in action on a daily basis. They signed up after 9/11 because they felt the war was the right thing to do. But not now. they dont' see any connection between the attack & Iraq. All they see is friends being kills and no end in sight. Iraq's people hate them, the child are scared of them. And they aren't being allowed to do they job the were sent for help secure the country. Bush want to stay the corse - not much of a plan.

Doesn't matter how we got in this mess - what matter is who is going to get us out with least amount of kills.

vega

Subject: RE: BS: Bush is an arrogant asshole.
From: Amos
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 05:13 PM

More evidence from the IP distirbution list:

here's an editor at Tor Books, Teresa Nielsen-Hayden, who has a
widely-read weblog, Making Light, found at
http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/ (her husband Patrick, also an
editor at Tor, also has an exceptional weblog,
http://nielsenhayden.com/electrolite/), in which she recently posted a
remarkable piece, "Motivation and Doubt", at
http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/005631.html making
reference to Suskind's article. I would recommend this piece to anyone
reading IP. Here are a few bits from it which give a flavor of the
piece:

"I arrived at certain theories about George W. Bush by a strange route,
which was thinking about the class of writers who take rejection worst.
I don't mean the ones who're hurt worst; I couldn't possibly judge
that. I'm talking about the ones who react with aggressive denial. And
it seemed to me that the ones I most often saw doing that were
middle-aged white guys with a management background."

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"Facts and mechanisms are not the issue. Their relationship with
success is mystical and emotional. Thus, the person who quibbles with
the details of their plan is their enemy rather than their ally. Such
impediments will of course be overcome if the employee correctly
understands and implements the magic PHB force of will. After all,
that's what force of will is there for. In the meantime, by expressing
reservations the employee has potentially weakened the all-important
PHB confidence. That's not being a good employee.

"(Do I need to point out that there's a world of difference between
absolute faith in the success of work you do yourself, and absolute
faith in your own success when your job consists of telling other
people what to do?)"

<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>

"A historical note: The corporation that had the most, and most
fervent, motivational and inspirational corporate-branded pelf I've
ever seen? That would have to be Enron. They were swimming in it –
everything from posters, pens, and t-shirts to Christmas ornaments and
fine cut-crystal tchotchkes. And when Enron went boom, and screwed its
employees six ways from Sunday, you should have seen how fast that
stuff came flying onto eBay. The saddest ones were the employee awards
set with little jewels showing how many years of devoted work they'd
put into the company: Together, we aren't winners."

<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>

"It's not cute, and it's not funny, and it's not religion. George Bush
is running national policy on faith—but it's not faith in God. It's
become something far stranger and more idolatrous.

"What he's put his faith in is George W. Bush, which is not the same
thing as saying he believes in himself. He can't believe in himself; he
knows he doesn't know anything. But instead of seeking more information
and better counsel, he's abandoned the frustrations of dealing with the
factual, external universe. He's now basing everything on the instincts
of George W. Bush. That's where the smirk comes from.

"He's certain he's right. So was every dotcom investor. So is every
blackjack player in Las Vegas."

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And so on. There is also an extensive comment thread--as Teresa says,
"Note: My readers are the best thing about this weblog. If you're not
reading the comments, you're missing half the fun."

---

Thanks and credit to John Adams.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Bush is an arrogant asshole.
From: Amos
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 05:08 PM

Without a Doubt demonstrates the issue clearly.

Martin your crudeness is second only to your density.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Bush is an arrogant asshole.
From: Once Famous
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 05:03 PM

Good work, Old Guy

Telling Sorcha to try an enema was riotous!

You might just win the Mudcat Best Guest award!!

Subject: RE: BS: Bush is an arrogant asshole.
From: Amos
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 04:10 PM

OK, let's get back to the toipic. I apologize for departing fromt he theme of this thread.

Bush really and truly is arrogant. And in every sense I know of he is also an asshole.

The first, for example, because he presumes to have no errors despite the trail of blood and destruction he left behind him. The second, for example, because he falsified so many things in speaking to the AMerican public.

See all the .mov links in my thread on "Politics 2004" for supplementary viewpoints about it.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Bush is an arrogant asshole.
From: GUEST,BabyBeardedBruce
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 12:31 AM

WAHHH!!!! off-topic-offtopic-offtopic!!everybody hates conservatives!!! WAHHH!!! mean old liberalsmeanoldliberals!!!! BBB hates liberals! they think they're sooooo smart! WAHHHH!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Bush is an arrogant asshole.
From: Amos
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 12:14 AM

OK, I will. I think it was fairly uncouth, but, nevertheless, deserved. Be that as it may, I hadn't really noticed it until you pointed it out to me. My apologies.

Stop throwing your preconceptions at me., They won't stick.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Bush is an arrogant asshole.
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 11:20 PM

Amos,

While OG may be off-topic, I think that "I'm pretty sick of you too. Why don't you join or go away? Just why are you here? " was not really on-topic, either- SO WHY DON'T YOU COMMENT ON THAT?


Or do you insist on a two-tiered Mudcat? The Enlightened Liberal Few, and the Despised Conservatives?

Are the liberal ideals you claim to follow really so weak?

Subject: RE: BS: Bush is an arrogant asshole.
From: Amos
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 11:12 PM

Insightful, OG. Thanks for contributing to the debate.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Bush is an arrogant asshole.
From: GUEST,Old Guy
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 10:21 PM

Amos:

You can administer the enema.

Old Guy

Subject: RE: BS: Bush is an arrogant asshole.
From: Josh
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 03:43 PM

What cut it for me: 68 British troops have died since the start of the war, over a 1,000 American troops are dead. Something isn't right here, is it? American politics never handles foreign issues as well as it could, in my opinion...

Subject: RE: BS: Bush is an arrogant asshole.
From: Amos
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 01:10 AM

Hey:

I thought you said you would be presenting facts, Mister Old Guy, not offering juvenile insights to respected members of the community.

Get it together or keep it at home, huh?

A

Subject: RE: BS: Bush is an arrogant asshole.
From: GUEST,Old Guy
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 01:01 AM

Scorcha:

Try an enema.

Old Guy

Subject: RE: BS: Bush is an arrogant asshole.
From: Peace
Date: 20 Oct 04 - 09:13 PM

I know where Bush was for seven minutes.

He was in a Florida classroom doing NOTHING.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush is an arrogant asshole.
From: Amos
Date: 20 Oct 04 - 11:16 AM

Speaking of being duped, Old Guy, here are some summary facts about your beloved, if slightly cockamamie, Pretnd President:

http://www.monkeydyne.com/bushresume/resume.html

Subject: RE: BS: Bush is an arrogant asshole.
From: GUEST,Old Guy
Date: 20 Oct 04 - 11:05 AM

Because Kerry is an arrogant asshole.

I will be until the election presenting facts about Kerry.

You can always ignore my posts if they start to break through the brainwashing given to you by the Kerry supporters.

Usually anger is the first sign that someone is discovering that they have been duped.

Old Guy

Subject: RE: BS: Bush is an arrogant asshole.
From: Tam the Bam (Nutter)
Date: 20 Oct 04 - 09:42 AM

YES

Subject: RE: BS: Bush is an arrogant asshole.
From: Sorcha
Date: 20 Oct 04 - 01:52 AM

Old Guy, I'm pretty sick of you too. Why don't you join or go away? Just why are you here?

Subject: RE: BS: Bush is an arrogant asshole.
From: GUEST,Old Guy
Date: 20 Oct 04 - 01:47 AM

Greg F.

That is a typical Liberal's answer to a typical Kerry conundrum.

If you can't answer it favorably, avoid it, say it does not matter and make an accusation.

I don't know where I was March 11th 1967 at 2:15 in the afternoon or what I was doing. If I was a candidate for the most powerful position in the world I would not have three versions of where I was at and I would not claim to be a hero based on what I was doing then.

Kerry is the creator of this trash. If it were not for his constant yapping about his prowess in Vietnam none of this info would be in existance.

If Kerry has so many versions of where he was at, he is a phony, not worthy of being commander in chief.

Georgie Boy joined the reserves. Kerry joined the reserves. Bush's unit did not get called up so that makes him a coward and Kerry a hero?

Old Guy

Subject: RE: BS: Bush is an arrogant asshole.
From: Sorcha
Date: 20 Oct 04 - 01:25 AM

Sick of all the crap. Be glad when it's over for a few years.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush is an arrogant asshole.
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 Oct 04 - 01:20 AM

Greg F

"I remember Christmas of 1968 sitting on a gunboat in Cambodia"

OG did not say he remembered : Kerry did. And he had a journal to refer to.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush is an arrogant asshole.
From: Peace
Date: 20 Oct 04 - 12:32 AM

It strikes me that the adjective (in the title of this thread) is not necessary.