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Subject: BS: Michael Moore laughs to the bank
From: Once Famous
Date: 03 Nov 04 - 11:40 AM

This fat guy is the only winner in the Kerry cause.

boy, can he afford the cheeseburgers.


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore laughs to the bank
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Nov 04 - 11:48 AM

Maybe he'll give John Edwards a job. I hear he is looking for work.


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore laughs to the bank
From: Once Famous
Date: 03 Nov 04 - 12:02 PM

Yeah, I would have him operate the gaffer.


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore laughs to the bank
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Nov 04 - 12:07 PM

Or the controls to your metal cock


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore laughs to the bank
From: Once Famous
Date: 03 Nov 04 - 12:10 PM

Hah! Sour grapes, Guest.

Not having much fun now are you, Guest?


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore laughs to the bank
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Nov 04 - 12:11 PM

so is it plastic, or metal? and are your balls made of treacle


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore laughs to the bank
From: Once Famous
Date: 03 Nov 04 - 12:13 PM

LOL!

Your type here was so predictable.


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore laughs to the bank
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Nov 04 - 12:15 PM

I remember a guy called liberace he also had a metal cock, i'll create a new thread so we can discuss this in a more suitable environment


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore laughs to the bank
From: Once Famous
Date: 03 Nov 04 - 12:24 PM

To late, schmuck. It was already pulled.

You are being watched.


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore laughs to the bank
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Nov 04 - 12:25 PM

youve replied to the last three, in my eyes thats a popular majority, take care sweet-cheeks


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore laughs to the bank
From: Once Famous
Date: 03 Nov 04 - 12:54 PM

Kiss 'em, baby.

You lost.


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore laughs to the bank
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Nov 04 - 01:11 PM

and again


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore laughs to the bank
From: Once Famous
Date: 03 Nov 04 - 01:51 PM

and again for you.

You still lost.


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore laughs to the bank
From: Bo Vandenberg
Date: 03 Nov 04 - 02:06 PM

Sadly, I don't think Moore cares for any 'extra' as much as he would have liked a change of regime. The climate of right wing security phobia and insensitivity in the United States must make it very difficult for artists.

Unlike the hundreds of companies who profitted hugely from election advertising, and political support services, I really think Moore would have kissed away his own profit from Farenheit 9/11 if people would have simply changed and things would have gotten better.

The most depressing thing about the criticisms of his films is that the targets don't seem to prove him wrong by actions. Haliburton hasn't openned its books to show it doesn't make unfair profits. The government hasn't allowed more information out to prove it isn't censoring.

The American response seems to be deny and litigate - always looking for a technical flaw or rhetorical mistake in the attack. I'd love to think that George W Bush would take the criticism he has received to heart and demonstrate improvements but I'm not holding my breath.

I think wherever you're outlook you don't expect much change either.

Thats Sad.



Sigurd


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore laughs to the bank
From: annamill
Date: 03 Nov 04 - 02:54 PM

I'm not sure anyone took his film seriously. I watched it because it was so touted. If it had been from the other side, against Kerry, I would have seen it as one sided, biased, sometime downright silly. I feel that way about it against Bush, and I soooo want Bush gone. I guess we have him for 4 more years. Scary, huh?

Annamill


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore laughs to the bank
From: Once Famous
Date: 03 Nov 04 - 02:59 PM

His F-911 film will be available shortly at a Wal-Mart near you for .99


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore laughs to the bank
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Nov 04 - 03:15 PM

As an artist and a progressive, I share the pain Sigurd. But the progressive left was wrong to put all it's eggs in the Kerry Republicrat basket, and the Moores, the Chomskys, and the Tim Robbins/Susan Sarandons of the world are going to have to look and the mirror this morning and live with the humiliation of having egg all over their faces.

But it is a painful process, to be sure. They are all good people, who let their extreme emotional hatred of the enemy override their intellects. Their hatred led to their being extremely bound to the energies of the people they hated too much.

Had they stopped mourning Al Gore's loss in 2000 and organized a progressive left that demanded concessions from the Democratic party this year instead of acquiescing and capitulating to it, I honestly do believe the outcome of this election would have been different. The progressive left that the Kerry campaign and the Democratic party thumbed it's nose at this year--especially it's own anti-war grassroots faction--just plain didn't come out to support the Michael Moores and the Noam Chomskys and the Tim Robbins faction this year the way they thought the progressives would.

And can anyone blame the progressive left for phoning it in this year, considering the way the Democrats demonized the left for resisting the party's extreme moves to the right under Clinton (ie the Battle of Seattle, the fight against Clinton's welfare reform, the fights to oust the union big boys old guard factions and union corruption, etc.), the exteme polarization of the left over Nader's run for the presidency in 2000, and the anger at the progressive left for staging such a huge demonstration outside the Dem National Convention in 2000?

The Democratic party won, hands down. They beat back the progressive left in the wake of the 2000 election, no doubt about it. Even when the progressive left around the world poured into the streets to support the US anti-war movement, the Democratic party sold us out to the Republicratic wing of the corrupt Democratic party and the highest bidders this election year: Citigroup, UBS Financial Services, Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley.

And this reality is very painful for artists. Despite the fact that the marketing research has conclusively demonstrated for well over a decade, that the most economically successful US cities all have one thing in common: strong support for the arts and for artists (I'm lucky enough to live in an artist coop in my city), you haven't seen any political support for arts and the artists since pre-Reagan years.

Now, a lot of us cultural creative, progressive left sorts of artists blame that on the rise of the 501(c) or the non-profit industry, which steals dollars from artists big time to pay for their administrative costs, the same way they have done with the Washington environmental lobby, led by the Republicrats whom Kerry led to this disastrous loss this election year.

Some of us believe those cushy environmental and arts lobbyist 501 non-profits created an industry for their academic wing, which is over-educated, over-funded, and who have led the capitulate and compromise move to the right of the Democratic party in the post-Vietnam years. Those people and organizations sold out the folk, big time, especially the artists and activists doing the work on the ground, out in the trenches beyond the Beltway.

Time to pull the rug out from under the Beltway Republicrat Volvo wagon train that the Michael Moores and the Noam Chomskys of the world epitomize, decentralize the progressive movement, and get the money back outside the Beltway political class' pockets, and back into the pockets of the truly progressive grassroots movement. PLEASE STOP SUPPORTING THOSE ORGANIZATIONS!!!

I mean, c'mon. Aren't you tired of paying for their cars that cost more than your house, and their arrogance exhibited in their inflated academic standing that gets them six figure salaries to send their kids to the best boarding schools and European universities their money can buy?

I know whereof I speak, because I have a good number of family and friends working for the sell out class in DC and it's environs. They've made a lot of money, lived a very nice upper middle class life style, and looked down their noses at the rest of the nation, including and especially non-mainstream media artists, as they "compromised" with the devils in DC and gave away our children's and our grandchildren's futures, so that their children might thrive in private schools and inherit their stolen wealth.


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore laughs to the bank
From: Once Famous
Date: 03 Nov 04 - 03:20 PM

Get a job, guest.

people who make lots of money and live in very nice upper middle class life styles just might have doens a lot of honest work to do so. that wealth is not stolen.

BTW, you need people with money to support the arts.

Having money made honestly is not evil.

Grow up.


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore laughs to the bank
From: GUEST,F911
Date: 03 Nov 04 - 04:38 PM

I thought his movie had some very interesting and serious points to make. I assume Martin Gibson thinks it's all fiction just for entertainment and profit. (although entertainment for profit is a perfectly legit American dream is it not?) I assume Martin Gibson isn't going to fight in Iraq himself anytime soon to rid Saddam of weapons of mass destruction - excuse me I mean to protect America's interest in the region- (I mean oil) anytime soon? I am a Canadian and I cherish our southern neighbours, but I think Bush and his ilk is driving America   into a dangerous and shameful place in history with dire world consequenses.


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore laughs to the bank
From: Once Famous
Date: 03 Nov 04 - 04:48 PM

I think it was a waste of time and I didn't bother.

And no, I'm too old to fight in Iraq, but I support our troops.

I don't see lard ass Moore giving away much on the large profits he made at your expense.


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore laughs to the bank
From: GUEST,GUEST,F911
Date: 03 Nov 04 - 05:11 PM

Mr. Martin Gibson
What was a waste of time? You mean you didn't see the movie? How can you comment on it if you didn't see it? Do you ever not waste your time? Why not take a chance on wasting some time and see the movie - then we'll talk. Don't worry about spending the money - Bush is giving you a tax cut.
Your troops are getting killed by an admistartion that is trying to liberate civilians with the army in a bogus coalition of the willing. I admire you for supporting them, but Bush has put Americans in harms way in a situation that is now out of control for the wrong reasons, and this is the tragedy. I think the commander and chief should be required to spend sometime himself on the front lines to make sure that this is a just war.
Why should Moore give away his profits? Do you give away your profits?
I'm glad I sent a few bucks his way for having him show us his take. Why do you call him a lard ass? You must be a picture perfect being yourself - right?


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore laughs to the bank
From: Once Famous
Date: 03 Nov 04 - 05:18 PM

he's a lard ass because he is.

I don't care how you spend your money Guest F911. don't tell me how to spend mine. I would rather watch I Love Lucy reruns than see his movie because I don't need his spin on what is or isn't truth.

If he wants to spend his profits on unlimited orders of french Fries, I could care less.

I'll use my tax cuts to take my wife for dinner. It's time and money better spent.

You won't make good wine with all of your sour grapes.


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore laughs to the bank
From: GUEST,F911
Date: 03 Nov 04 - 05:24 PM

That's your thing! You don't like someone's spin, but you can watch I love Lucy while your fellow troups, who you support get their heads blown off in Iraq. Wow.


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore laughs to the bank
From: Once Famous
Date: 03 Nov 04 - 05:38 PM

Learn to spell troops, moron.

Sour grapes, moron.


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore laughs to the bank
From: GUEST,Izzy
Date: 03 Nov 04 - 09:36 PM

Martin is cool. Was he named after a guitar?

IZ


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore laughs to the bank
From: Once Famous
Date: 03 Nov 04 - 11:05 PM

A D-18 and a J45.

mahagony and spruce and Made in America.


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore laughs to the bank
From: Little Hawk
Date: 03 Nov 04 - 11:15 PM

(snore)


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore laughs to the bank
From: Once Famous
Date: 03 Nov 04 - 11:16 PM

Do you drool when you snore?


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore laughs to the bank
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Nov 04 - 04:05 AM

Obviously his metal cock is causing him distress


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore laughs to the bank
From: Joe Offer
Date: 05 Nov 04 - 02:44 AM

How much do you think it would cost to buy the Fahrenheit DVD, now that the election is over?
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore laughs to the bank
From: Once Famous
Date: 05 Nov 04 - 11:40 AM

.99 at Costco

Blockbuster has just removed it to make room for a new Olson Twins release.


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