Little known '60s Folk Singers

Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: GUEST,Frank Hamilton
Date: 13 Jan 07 - 12:47 PM

There was Addiss and Crowfut, two folkies who toured the world on a State Department grant. They introduced American folk music around the world.

Sorry i got Howie Burson's name wrong. Yes, Gil Turner. Thanks, Steve.

There are countless great folk instrumentalists who haven't been mentioned such as "Ti Jean" Johnnie Carignan, one of the world's best fiddlers from French Canada.

Earl Collins, a great traditional country fiddler who lived in LA......

Ralph Blizzard ...another great fiddler.

Zylphia Horton, wife of Miles Horton from Highlander Folk School responsible for the popularity of "We Shall Overcome". Played accordian.

Jenny Vincent Wells from New Mexico...spanish songs. Accordian also.

There was a guitarist from McCabe's Guitar Shop...I can't remember his name...I think it was Rick but he was a phenomenal finger picker.

Joe and Antoinette McKenna.....Joe...master of the Uillean pipes and Antoinette, singer and player of Irish harp...exceptional performers.

The Pindar singers from the Bahamas....Joseph Spence...Bahamian guitar player and singer.

Clark Allen...flamenco and Spanish songs from the San Diego area.

Did somebody mention Joe and Eddie from the Troubador in LA? (maybe getting redundant here)

I wouldn't call Ed McCurdy little-known but maybe comparatively to others.

John Herald....with Ralph Rinzler in "Greenbriar Boys". Wrote a version of "Stewball".

How about Molly Scott? Pretty lady. Nice voice.

Howie Mitchell, dulcimer player with the group, "Golden Ring".

George and Gerry Armstrong from Illinois. George...folklorist and bagpipes...Gerry, dulcimer and traditional ballads. Jenny, their daughter is also a fine singer/player.

Banjo Dancing with Stephen Wade...although he is pretty well-known in the Mid-West.

I vote for my friend Mark Dvorak from Illinois who is just coming into his own as a songwriter as well as folksinger.

Sonny Houston lives in GA and has played on records with Guy and Candie Carawan.
Plays all kinds of instruments.

Red Grammer (sp?) who replaced Glenn Yarborough in the "Limelighters".

Ernie Lieberman (Sheldon) who also replaced Glenn in the "Limelighters". Ernie became a substantial songwriter.

Betty Sanders...part of People's Artists but sang through the Sixties.

Jerry Walter (banjo picker) of the "Gateway Singers" which had "Elmer Lee Thomas" a fine African-American singer as well as a starting group for Travis Edmondsen.

"Sonny" Vale was the Robert DeCormier of the West Coat with his Folk Chorus.

Earl Robinson kept performing through the Sixties and was writing and composing music.

Peter Alsop, a writer of children's songs and folksinger from LA, married to Ellen Geer, daughter of Will Geer.

Freddie Hellerman was with the well-known Weavers but his private accomplishments were as a producer for Joan Baez (I think first recording) and songwriter. "Come Away Melinda"..

Then there's the "Fast Folk" crowd from New York. Steve Suffet will know Jack Hardy and those people.

A great folk instrumentalist and singer is Joe Craven who did a remarkable CD called "Camptown".

I'll mention John McCutcheon just because he has recently moved to GA and is a neighbor, now.

Did anyone mention Si Kahn? Not a big big name but just as important as any.

Micheal Smith (songwriter "The Dutchman"..Chicago) and Barbara Barrow.

Ken Pearlman...fairly well known in banjo circles.

I'll vote for my friend Adam Miller who is now touring the country and making a good living as (gasp) a folksinger. Autoharp and guitar.

Then there's Peter Marston, from New England, a great singer was with David Jones in "Starboard List"....David...also great. Pete's brother (my friend) Chick is a great blues fingerpicker and works with his wife Ellen Ford, singer in N.E. and Florida.

John Langstaff is known as a baritone who started the "Christmas Revels" in Cambridge but was formerly on staff at Pine Woods.


The more these names come up, the more I realize just how extensive and powerful the "folk scare" was. The beat goes on.....................................

Frank

Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: Deckman
Date: 13 Jan 07 - 11:51 AM

I find your comments VERY interesting. Many years ago I got "hung up" on the definition of "traditional folk music." Most every folksinger I ever met has to get through this question. Remembering that America has such a short history compared to Great Britian, for example, for several years I used a handy definition for traditional: it had to be at least 100 years old. I'm sure that seems silly to you, but it worked for me. It is also the benchmark that antique furniture dealers use to measure authenticity. Today I don't have a clue how to define it. And NO, let's don't warp this fine thread into yet another attempt at defining the impossible. CHEERS, Bob(deckman)Nelson

Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 13 Jan 07 - 04:01 AM

American singer songwriters may not sing in your tradition, but they are operating in their tradition. Or their view of what tradition is.

Tradition is a funny word. Back in the 60's, I was at Leighton Park School in Reading for about 15 months, and we had this American kid doing a sort of year's scholarship.

He said the thing about this school is - you have no traditions....not like we had in my school back in America.

we all said, but why would we have any traditions - our school only started up at the start of the 20th century.

He said, well - that's about thirty years older than my school back in Arizona, we've got all these traditions that we hand on.

I think Americans must have a lot more literal meaning of traditional than we do - it is what is actually handed on. Whereas in England, 'traditional music' has to actually have ersatz cobwebs hanging off it.

Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: Sandy Paton
Date: 13 Jan 07 - 03:13 AM

I haven't had time to read ALL of these entries, but I hope someone has mentioned Bob Coltman, old-time music authority, singer/songwriter extraordinary, and fairly frequent contributor to these Mudcat pages. Several fine recordings on Minstrel Records, at least one of which (I think) has now been re-released as a CD. You may be familiar with some of his Child ballad revisions, recorded on a remarkable release titled "Son of Child."
    One of my personal favorites has long been Ed Trickett. Has he been mentioned here? Ed has a great knack for finding wonderful songs and sings them, as Gordon Bok once put it, "from the inside out."
    Sandy

Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: GUEST,Mike Miller
Date: 13 Jan 07 - 01:29 AM

Well, Zeno, we're not famous but we are far from impoverished. Many of us, who were full time performers in the 60's stayed in the business after the hootenanny craze passed. We teach folk instruments, we sing in school programs, libraries, museums, state and county fairs, festivals (large and small), senior facilities. We do workshops and artists in residence appointments. Some of us tour and some stay close to home. In Philadelphia, I have managed to maintain a full time career, without traveling. So have a number of others folk performers who live here (Jackie Pack, Tossi Aaron, Joe Aaronson, Ken Ulancy, Saul Broudy and George Britton, who has been making an excelent living from folk music since the late 1940's).
Don't cry for us, Argentina. Just, send us some Columbian.

                      Mike

Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: GUEST,Xeno
Date: 12 Jan 07 - 11:48 PM

This is my first time visiting this site after a friend reccommended it, and as I scrolled down I was intriqued by this thread. Especially since the friend who told me about Mudcat Cafe was a "little known 1960's folksinger!" We were just kids from Tulsa together, & Jennifer Sullivan was singing in "coffeehouses" & small clubs around the Midwest USA from about 68 into the 70s. Jennifer was just a little teenage girl then, only about 14 or 15, but she could make herself up to look older, so nobody realized her youth then. She was unusual because she knew more folksongs than anyone anybody ever met, and played a variety of instruments beyond guitar & flute & keyboards that most people never heard of then, like mountain dulcimer & autoharp & bodhran & irish whistle & stuff I can't even remember. Since she played guitar with ceili bands as a youngster she knew all kinds of irish songs & tunes, and could easily cover the "folk"singers of the time. She told me that she's now out in California living the good life while the rest of us schmucks are sitting in the cold back in the breadbasket. It's amazing & kinda sad sometimes the talent thats running around out there that we don't even realize. Somebody you know could easily have been well known, but is a nobody in poverty now.
Zeno, still in Tulsa

Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: Deckman
Date: 12 Jan 07 - 10:08 PM

Stefen: Gordon Heath and Lee Payant DID have an impact on us here in Seattle in the mid fifties. The late Walt Robertson hung out with them in Paris for a while. He brought many of their songs back to us, as well as wonderful tales ... such as the "finger snapping" rather than applause.

Sure, this is a thread about 'obscure' influences. But you NEVER know just how far these influences spread ... and continue to spread.

This is becoming a great subject! CHEERS, Bob

Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: DeeRod
Date: 12 Jan 07 - 09:42 PM

of course for the least known of the unknown, you could have been reading Washington Folk Strums (64-67).

Glad to read of Bob Grossman. Got to know Bob in Wash, @62. He was top bill at Shadows one tome (in DC) and I took a date who was mightily impressed that the star came and had a drink with us at intermission. 2nd bill was a kid form Philly-comedian of sorts. Cosby by name. Pretty good too.

Bill Destler; only double dipper, Pres. FSGW,Pres. Bal;t. Folk Club
Currently Provost, U. of Md. can't get him out to sing these days.

Allan Dameron got a lot of coverage in Folk Strums. He was resident in Brickskellar Club here. We palled around Newport FF.Saw him three years ago.

Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: elfcape
Date: 12 Jan 07 - 08:55 PM

How many American singer songwriters have heard of John K, Vin Garbutt or even Jez? At least they might have heard of Jez since he comes to the States.

But they don't sing folk music and aren't interested in traditional styles, so they're not likely to be acquainted with John.

Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: GUEST,Jim
Date: 12 Jan 07 - 11:03 AM

Scrump said,"I guess "little-known" or "well-known" is a bit subjective," and I think we'd all agree. Show me a clawhammer banjo fan who doesn't know of Howie Bursen, but if you were to ask 50 people on the street I'm sure you'd strike out.

Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: Stefan Wirz
Date: 12 Jan 07 - 06:29 AM

Gordon Heath & Lee Payant ('Abbaye' in Paris, France)
They're *so* little known that there's nothing by them to be found on CD (or is it?)
Stefan

Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: Scrump
Date: 12 Jan 07 - 03:20 AM

I guess "little-known" or "well-known" is a bit subjective, as each of us has no real way to tell how many others knew about these people back then. Likewise, I may never have heard of somebody listed here who was known to many others, who would appear to be "well-known" even though I've never heard of them.

It could be argued that nearly all folk singers then and today, are largely little-known by people outside the folk community, even some of the biggest names. How many people outside the folk world have heard of (say) John Kirkpatrick, Jez Lowe or Vin Garbutt? (Just to pick three names more or less at random, of highly respected folk artists who have been around a long time and are big names in the folk world, at least in the UK).

That said, I have heard of some of those listed by Frank Hamilton - Derroll Adams, Mike Bloomfield and Hedy West I would have thought were fairly well known, but maybe that's just because I know them. As I said, it's subjective.

Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: Suffet
Date: 12 Jan 07 - 12:30 AM

Greetings once again!

Just to add to what Frank Hamilton wrote:

• The Gil whose last name he cannot recall was Gil Turner. He died in 1974 at the age of 41. Among his many songs, the best know is Carry It On!

• The banjo player married to Sally Rogers is actually Howie Bursen, not Burston. I took clawhammer lessons from him at Pinewoods Camp in 2005.

• Sis Cunningham was from Oklahoma, not Appalachia, although some of her songs were in Appalachian style. Sis was, up to the time of her death in 2004, a mentor to generation after generation of topical-political folk singers.

• Sonja Savig is still very active in the New York Pinewoods Folk Music Club.

--- Steve

Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: Deckman
Date: 11 Jan 07 - 07:26 PM

I well remember a concert in San Francisco in 1959. Odetta sand at the Opera House and Tom Lee played bass with her. Amazing. Bob(deckman)Nelson

Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: David C. Carter
Date: 11 Jan 07 - 07:02 PM

Anyone know what happened to Willis Alan Ramsey,who wrote-North East Texas Women?

David

Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: GUEST,Frank Hamilton
Date: 11 Jan 07 - 06:32 PM

I'll tell you 'bout a little known group who were fairly popular in Norway named "The Immigrants". Nobody knows about them today.

Bernie Krause who replaced me in the Weavers was little-known but quite good. He became well-known as a producer for Paul Beaver (of synthesizer fame).

How bout Dave Sears (who sounded alot like Pete Seeger) as well as Joe Jaffe from the NY area?

Anyone hear of Effie Siegerman? (NY) Moved to Australia I think.

Moe Hirsch was a great guitar-banjo- picker from U of Chicago but little-known in New York. (Became math prof).

Red Parham and "Crazy" George Pegram from Statesville N.C. were mainstays on the Bascom Lamar Lunsford Asheville Folk Festival. Great performers and the real deal.

Sonja Savig sang Norwegian folk songs and performed well in NY and NE.

How 'bout the bass players? Tom Lee, father of Spike Lee accompanied Odetta and Josh White. Wilbur Ware (known in be-bop jazz circles accompanied folk acts). So did Chuck Israels who is better known for his work with Bill Evans, great jazz pianist.

"Buckwheat" used to play with Bud and Travis.

Art Thieme and I would agree that Bill Chipman was one of the best around of trad. country singers.

What about Rick and Lorraine Lee who I knew in Boston? Lorraine (a formidable lap dulcimer player is now Lorraine Hammond and Rick played a mean banjo and piano.

Howie Burston, great banjo player married to Sally Rogers.

Do Kate and Livingston Taylor of the James Taylor family count as lesser-knowns?

Katie Lee from Arizona, (cowboy songs, southwest folk music)

Ruthie Gordon from Appalachian area wrote some great songs.

Shlomo Carlbach is well-known in Jewish circles but was lesser-known in the folk area.

For that matter, Henry Zapotnik...same as Shlomo Carlbach.

Tony Schwartz should qualify as the collector of the famous unfamous "Moondog" on the streets of New York.

Gil (can't remember his last name but wrote songs for Broadside with Dylan, Paxton and Len Chandler.

Rick Epping, folk harmonica virtuoso from LA

Here in GA, Colonel Bruce Hampton (kinda' folk rock)

Lynn Gold (LA but now residing in Fla.)

Derroll Adams, the "banjoman" who I knew in LA and performed with Jack Elliott in Europe. Known well in Belgium, Amsterdam etc. but not in the US.

My old buddy Dave Zeitlin who plays a beautiful folk guitar and had a rich tenor voice now teaches at McCabe's Guitar Shop in LA.

Marcia Berman and Patty Zeitlin (formerly married to Dave) have written lovely children songs and are folkies from the 60's.

Arkansas Red lives in Eureka Springs, AK and is a great banjo-picker, guitar-player and folksinger. He still does it...goin' strong.

Micheal Miles (better known in banjo circles) from Chicago...beautiful clawhammer stylist.

Sis Cunningham (editor of Broadside) trad Appalachian and topical songwriter

Bess Hawes should be better known than she is (Alan Lomax's sister who in my view is as significant in some ways as Alan). Educator, banjo-picker and singer. With the Almanacs.

Tom Glaser...was pretty well-known at the time.

Wade White, a great slide-guitar blues player from North Carolina...not known today.

Clabe Hangan from San Bernadino California...African American performer..great.

Did anyone mention Robin Roberts? She sang Celtic songs and was part of Vanguard Records or was it Electra?

My friend Elise Witt is a fine folk singer and performer from GA.

Does anyone remember Pat Foster?

Freddie Gerlach played 12 string guitar and studied Leadbelly.

Jean, I remember Peter Carbone of Bleeker Street. Worked on my instruments.

Jim Rooney from Boston, played left-handed (like Bill Staines) and did trad. country.

Mike Melford also produced trad. country played mandolin.

Joe Klee played Uke and sang songs. Later became a jazz critic for Mississippi Rag.

Osborne Smith, African-American performer sang rich baritone and played percussion in the Chicago area.

Mike Settle worked with Kenny Rogers in the "First Edition". He wrote some good songs.

Eric Schoenberg is a great finger-picking player who is now making guitars on the West Coast.

Not many of you knew Al Grierson but I think he was one of the best writers around, died tragically in a flood in Texas.

Was it Micheal Strange, the actor who put out the record of Robin Hood ballads for I think Elecktra?

Of course Billy Strange played guitar with Glenn Campbell in the "Folkswingers".

Jimmy MacDonald was an African-American singer/performer from New York. I remember Bob Gibson, Mary Travers, Jimmy and I went to Philly to sing at a coffee-house in the dead of night.

"Lingo The Drifter" did "Ramblin' Jack/ Sandy Pinckney. Lingo from Colo. area I think.

Mike Bloomfield? Did I mention him? Sort of famous later as a blues guitarist.

Little Brother Montgomery was a fairly well-known blues pianist and songwriter from Chicago. Played with Willie Dixon.

Patti (Reagan) Davis played coffee-houses throughout the Seventies in LA and Santa Barbara. She was probably around during the Sixties.

Snooks Eaglin, great New Orleans bluesman and singer.

Hedy West, can't forget her. How well-known she was I guess is debatable but great banjo-pickin' gal and singer.

Some of these folks you might have heard of, some not.

It would be a great thread to do: "Where are they now?"

Frank

Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: iancarterb
Date: 10 Jan 07 - 10:35 PM

Hank Bradley lives in Seattle, playing Greek music and whatever else comes to mind, as always.

Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: elfcape
Date: 10 Jan 07 - 08:02 PM

To Frandsen: Hank was married to Sandy, wasn't he? She's till calling dances in the NW I understand from the trad-dance-caller's group on yahoo.

Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: bobad
Date: 10 Jan 07 - 06:33 PM

Some info on Terry Whelan here.

Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: GUEST,Jim
Date: 10 Jan 07 - 05:55 PM

How about the Two Tones from Orilia, Ontario? Gordon Lightfoot, the tenor guitar player is still around, but where is Terry Whalen(sp?)?

Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: GUEST,Marty Farrow
Date: 10 Jan 07 - 05:45 PM

Jeff Hindman, I believe one of the "Four Square Circle" is with "Elsie`s Band".

Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Jan 07 - 12:54 PM

A group from Nova Scotia Scotia called Swallowstale. They did some local gigs and the Lunenburg Harbour Folk Festival, did one Cassette then disappeared. Too bad, they were great.

Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: GUEST,Erik Frandsen
Date: 10 Jan 07 - 12:28 PM

elfcape: Sure, Hank Bradley's that old. I met him in '66 or '67 when he was playing with the Cleanliness and Godliness Skiffle Band, doing their unforgettable version or Martin Mull's "Chinese New Year Waltz", among other faves. He's still alive, too. I think.

Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: Scrump
Date: 10 Jan 07 - 10:10 AM

I remember Jug Trust, led by Brian Cookman (I believe he's sadly no longer with us). I saw them a few times in the late 60s and early 70s, and the first time I saw them (1969) I did a floor spot where they were on the bill, and Brian very kindly lent me a harmonica as I had come unprepared to play (although I had my brand new guitar, bought the same day, with me). The band later changed its name to Bronx Cheer.

Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Jan 07 - 09:55 AM

The Jug Trust! Vernon Haddock's Jubilee Lovelies!

Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: Scrump
Date: 10 Jan 07 - 06:52 AM

Ah, this thread is an ideal one to ask about a group I remember vaguely from the late 1960s or early 1970s.

They were (I think) a trio (but could have been a duo?) and I believe they were based in the Fylde area (Blackpool possibly) (Lancs, England). Their name was (I think) "??? Boots" where "???" is something I can't remember. I've been racking my brain to remember - I don't think it was "Brown Boots" but maybe it was?

They moved to London in about 1970 or '71 IIRC, but I never heard of them afterwards so I guess they broke up or something?

Sorry it's all very vague, but does anyone remember a duo or trio answering this (admittedly incomplete) description?

Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: GUEST,Jeff Hindman, Maidstone
Date: 09 Jan 07 - 03:13 PM

Does anyone know what happened to the "Four Square Circle" from SE London? They were around from 1965 to 75.

Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: Deckman
Date: 09 Jan 07 - 01:39 PM

"Miskin man" ... there's more truth in what you said than you might realize. I know several folkies of that period who performed under several different names. (it was easier to hide that way)! Bob

Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: GUEST,Erik Frandsen
Date: 09 Jan 07 - 01:15 PM

Scrump--
   Ooh, that Paul Simon line. You're a cruel man. But fair.

Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: Scrump
Date: 09 Jan 07 - 11:23 AM

Paul Simon was a little, known 1960s folk singer.

Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: GUEST,Jim
Date: 09 Jan 07 - 11:04 AM

I meant the David Rae who, at about 17 years old, used to live in Toronto and played back-up guitar for many Canadian folk singers as well as doing solo gigs at coffe houses. He backed up Ian & Sylvia, Joanie Anderson (later Mitchell) and Gord Lightfoot at the Mariposa Festival that was held in Maple Leaf Stadium in the sixties.

The late David Snaker Ray wouldn't fit into the "Little Known" catagory, since almost everyone I knew in the sixties who was into acoustic music had a copy of Blues, Rags & Hollers and Lots More B,R&H.

Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: GUEST,Art Thieme
Date: 09 Jan 07 - 10:46 AM

Most of these "little known" folks were not little known to to us on the scene then. Most everyone mentioned here were well known to us THEN. It was a mesmerizing time.

Don't forget Jim Kweskin and his fingerpicking influence then. I was teaching a beginners guitar course the the Fret Shop on 57th Street in Chicago's Hyde Park south side neighborhood-----in the old Artist Colony buildings -- cold water storefronts left over from the Colombian Exposition of 1893. KWESKIN was teaching an advanced fingerpicking course then and there (1961). I had a Webcor 2-track reel-to-reel tape machine on which I taped an hour of Jim solo singing and playing on Ella Jenkins' (she is still around and singing at age 80) WSBC-FM radio show called the MEETIN' HOUSE.

I just got Roxio software and put those tapes on a CD in this brave new millennium. Great music and great memories. (Great thread too.)

And I must add that I started picking and singing at Chicago's NO EXIT COFFEEHOUSE---CAFE AND GALLERY that year -- 1961. THIRTY-SEVEN YEARS LATER, I was still playing music there quite a few dates every year. I always referred to the No Exit as "my oasis" --- until I lost the ability to pick altogether.

As I'm fond of saying, "If it wasn't for time, we'd have to do everything all at once!" ;-)

Best regards, and my heartfelt thanks, to all of you.

Art Thieme

Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: Andy Jackson
Date: 09 Jan 07 - 09:55 AM

Strikes me the reason most of these 60's singers were unknown is that they lived in America!!!! Tee Hee.

Andy (safe in the UK, with our own bunch of never-quite-made-its.

Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: Deckman
Date: 09 Jan 07 - 09:48 AM

Back to the U.S. West Coast:

I believe that Larry Hanks is still singing up a storm in the Bellingham area, though I might be incorrect about that;

The late Terry Wadsworth, from the late 50's and early 60's;

Pat Garvey, who I think now runs a bookstore in the D.C. area;

Good thread! Bob(deckman)Nelson

Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Jan 07 - 08:52 AM

Cathy and Carol (Were they later than the 60s? I still think of them as youngsters.)

Kathy and Carol had a single lp on Elektra, circa 1965, reissued last year by ccmusic.com (I have no financial interest). Also last year, they shared a bill with Mark Spoelstra in a central California concert.

Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: VIN
Date: 09 Jan 07 - 08:35 AM

It will take me a year to plough thru the above so just thought i'g ask if anyone has yet mentioned the great Mary Asquith from the Manchester area yet. Saw her a few time in T'owd days, one of the best female blues voices ever heard at the time. Got some recordings of her on minidisc from friends album of hers.

Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: GUEST,Sandy Paton
Date: 09 Jan 07 - 03:10 AM

Bill Destler is actually Provost at the University of Maryland now. Still singing darned well.

Let me add Dave Frederickson's name to the list - Berkeley, singer of western songs. Made one recording (at least) for Folkways.

Slim Critchlow (is that how he spelled it?) - fine western singer originally from Utah, I think, who became part of the Bay Area scene.

Charlotte Daniels, from Indiana, made one record for Prestige. Sang some in the Washington, D.C., clubs back about then. Did one gig with me at the Gate of Horn.

Cathy and Carol (Were they later than the 60s? I still think of them as youngsters.)

Jack Stanesco - still sings with Harry Tuft out in Denver as part of Grubstake.

And finally, one of the best of them all: Larry Hanks.

Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: elfcape
Date: 09 Jan 07 - 01:30 AM

Jeez. I didn't think Hank Bradley was that old. Are we talking end of 60s here?

Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: GUEST,Art Thieme
Date: 09 Jan 07 - 01:18 AM

MARC SILBER,

You were sitting on a table at the first University Of Chicago Folk Festival in 1961 -- picking out San Francisco Bay Blues. That was Saturday afternoon -- Feb. 4th, '61 in venerable old Ida Noyes Hall where the workshops for the festival always happened. (Fest is still going strong---still yearly at the beginning of February.)

But I never forgot the fingerpicking you were doing that day. It was a big influence on me.----- And Perry Lederman was hanging out at that festival in '61. Just amazing.

I'll be back tomorrow with some more stuff for this good thread...

Art Thieme

Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: GUEST,Mike Miller
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 09:46 PM

Ah, the memories.
So many of those named were friends, so many that I would have to scan that list again and again to get them all. Here are some updates and questions. Alex Dobkin was a regular at the Sunday sessions at The Gilded Cage, as were, Elliot Kenin, Ethel Raim, Josh Dunson, Billy Vanaver and Gordon Bok. So was Shelly Posen, when he was studying folklore at the Univ. of Pennsylvania.
I have always associated Helen Shneyer with the Washington, D.C. crowd along with wonderful singers like John Eberhart and Andy Wallice.
I traveled to NYC to see Roy Berkeley at the Old Farts Reunion in Washington Square but he didn't make it down from wherever he lives in Vermont or New Hampshire, so I had to make do with picking with Eric Weisberg, Steve Mandel, Gene Yellin and a few other survivors of that most musical of decades.

Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 08:19 PM

ah but but I was so much older then....

write me a letter RS, I'm hungry to hear you

this is my website and contains my e-mail


http://bigalwhittle.co.uk/

Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: GUEST,RS
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 06:40 PM

Wee Little Drummer, hail from across the years - nice to see Derek Hall mentioned - I used to go down the Shades back then, & could never figure why the guy wasn't huge, he was as good as any of the 'legends' (D Graham etc), I still have the 'Out of The Shades' EP with his masterly versions of 'Darlin' & 'Skillet'; oh, & Mike Cooper's trying to track him down too, according to his Cooparia website..

Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: Greg B
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 06:23 PM

Dottie Gittleson--- SoCal folk singer and children's book
author. Used to sometimes play with other friends at 'hootenanies'
in my folks living room c. 1967 or so, when I was but a kid.

Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: DonMeixner
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 02:42 PM

At the Auburn Community College Coffee house we had a lot of people go through that I haven't heard of since or very seldom.

Randy Rice
Art Carney's son who was very good.
Blair Hull and Jim Roche (became friends but have lost touch)
Larry Keane
Bill Steele
Bill Destler (Now a dean of sorts at Cornell)
Mary McCaslin
Jim Ringer (Deceased)
Nicky Seeger
Fran McKendree

Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: GUEST,Erik Frandsen
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 02:17 PM

From the Bay Area:
Terry Dolan
Allan Burton
Chuck Massey
Ivan Ulz
Don Burnham (later leader of "Lost Weekend", California's top Western Swing outfit.)
Dynamite Annie Johnston
Ruthann Friedman (mostly L.A.)
Hank Bradley
Larry Hanks
Phil Marsh

Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: Janice in NJ
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 01:23 PM

Alix Dobkin
Jackie Gibson
Helen Schneyer
Elliott Kenin
Lee Ruth
Roy Berkeley
Laura Wetzler
Jimmy Collier
Rev. Frederick D. Kirkpatrick
Laura Weber (taught guitar on TV in 1960's)

Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 12:00 PM

Exactly I never heard of anybody called Scrump.

A name like that, you'd remember.

Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: Scrump
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 10:10 AM

Come to think of it, I was a little-known 1960s folk singer (I started in 1969). And I am still little-known :-)

Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: Ian Burdon
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 02:12 AM

I think that the Alex Corner mentioned a couple of posts back was Alexis Korner

Do Hazel Dickens and Alice Gerrard count in this "little known" category? It depends were you are I guess

Ian

Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: curmudgeon
Date: 07 Jan 07 - 08:16 PM

Frank -- You're making me feel old. Most of those on both of your lists I consider to be well known -- Tom Hall