Little known '60s Folk Singers

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: curmudgeon
Date: 29 Jun 07 - 09:53 AM

If you're looking for Paul MacNeil, go   here.

Haven't seen Bob Mc Carthy for a few years. Same for Elliot, except for hearing one of his songs, "You Ain't Done Nothing If You Ain't Been Called a Red," by someone whose name I can't remember on an album I can't lay my hands on. I'll post again when I have time to look around some more --Tom Hall

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: Mark Ross
Date: 29 Jun 07 - 10:29 AM

YOU AIN'T DONE NOTHING IF YOU AIN'T BEEN CALLED A RED was recorded by Faith Petric. Pat Sky is working for the Pest Orifice in North Carolina these days, I believe.

Mark Ross

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz
Date: 29 Jun 07 - 12:35 PM

Friends: Just got reminded last night at Le Festival de Jazz de Montreal of Tex Koenig's walking with Bob Dylan (memories, "The Village," N.Y.C.) through Mariposa(Toronto) so many years ago. And how that could happen without anybody paying too much of a mind. Ah, the days of Peace and Love. Sadly, the conversation included the passing on of Scott Lang, brother of Penny Lang, "Canada's First Lady of Folk." Bless...
bob

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: C. Ham
Date: 29 Jun 07 - 02:41 PM

From Montreal there was a good songwriter who hosted the hoots at the back door. He played a song titled 'Soup d'Jour" that I always wanted to learn. Had a long beard and a blind backup fiddler. Anyone remember his name?

The songwriter (now beardless) was Chris Rawlings. The fiddle player was Gilles Losier.

Friends: Just got reminded last night at Le Festival de Jazz de Montreal of Tex Koenig's walking with Bob Dylan (memories, "The Village," N.Y.C.) through Mariposa(Toronto) so many years ago. And how that could happen without anybody paying too much of a mind.

You're really wrong about people not paying too much of a mind the time Dylan showed up as a "tourist" at Mariposa. If I recall correctly it was 1972 or '73 and it caused such a commotion that he has to be evacuated by security from the Toronto Islands.

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz
Date: 29 Jun 07 - 04:33 PM

C.Ham: HA HA HA HA HA!!!. I didn't hear that part. Tex was a close friend, and the person I got that from knew him as well, and was there. I guess that little walk didn't last TOO long before somebody said, "Hey. Isn't that Dylan?" And then the S#!% must have hit the fan...Tex knew Dylan from the Village so I guess they met for a bit before the crowd took notice. I don't know for sure. I wasn't there.
Tex used to talk about Dylan all the time...Another friend gone to Folk Heaven. Anyhound(I think I got that expression from Tex, an old memory), Chris Rawlings was just over here at my studio on Monday, along with the rough edit of his new CD. We talked about going to that Ormstown thing that's coming up. He's in, for sure. And anybody that can memorize "Rhyme of the Ancient Marriner" and turn it into a 50 minute performance piece has got to be some kinda Folksinger, right? Yes, Soup de Jour, Pearl River Turnaround, all those songs... Gilles Losier was the piano tuner for Place des Arts( or at least in their doing it from time to time.) Gilles plays fiddle, upright bass, piano, and God knows what else. I haven't seen him in years. Once told me you can't imagine what it's like being born blind and then experiencing color for the first time(I think it was around 6 years old)A great memory. Funny I don't remember any Hoots at the Back Door. Maybe for a short period. That was usually reserved for top shelf artists. Tex worked the coffee bar for a bit. Do you mean The Yellow Door? The hoots were always on Sunday nights. The second floor near the fireplace was where we used to tune up before going in the basement. I wish they would have recorded some of the stuff that went on. It would have made for an incredible compilation album. You would have gotten artists "trying out " songs on the audience. Wish you well...bob

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: C. Ham
Date: 29 Jun 07 - 04:39 PM

Hi Bob,

I never said there were hoots at the Back Door, I was just quoting the guy who asked the question. From his description I knew he was talking about Chris Rawlings and Gilles Losier.

I knew Tex real well. We both moved from Montreal to Toronto at about the same time and he used to call me up and arrange meets in Chinatown noodle joints two or three times a year. Somehow, I always ended up treating him. I miss the big guy.

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: C. Ham
Date: 29 Jun 07 - 04:43 PM

P.S. I don't remember Chris Rawlings hosting the hoots at the Yellow Door. I remember Chuck Baker, a guy named Wayne something, and Mike Regenstreif (now the folk radio host in Montreal) before he started up the Golem which was more Back Door than Yellow Door in terms of the musicians and structure.

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: Peace
Date: 29 Jun 07 - 04:48 PM

Chuck Baker hosted almost every hoot that took place at the Yellow Door. I don't recall hoots at the Back Door, but I do recall that that is where I saw a microwave oven for the first time.

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: Peace
Date: 29 Jun 07 - 04:52 PM

Mike R and Chuck B (with help from their friends) did so much to keep 'folk' alive in Montreal, live music happening, and audiences involved. There are lotsa folkies out there who owe those guys a serious debt of gratitude. I'm one of 'em.

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: C. Ham
Date: 29 Jun 07 - 04:58 PM

Hi Peace,

I remember Wayne and Mike hosting a lot of the Yellow Door hoots. Chuck spent most of the Sunday night hoots in those days in the office at the top of the stairs; sometimes coming part way down the stairs and holding up a funny sign to the audience. This would have been the early-1970s. I left Montreal in 1975.

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: Peace
Date: 29 Jun 07 - 05:00 PM

Forgot to mention Penny Rose who used to hold house concerts at her house in Morin Heights--before folks ever heard of house concerts. She called the place "Rose's Cantina". That was back in the very early 1970s, I think.

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: C. Ham
Date: 29 Jun 07 - 05:01 PM

Whenever I get to Vancouver, maybe one every five or six years, I stop by Rufus' Guitar Shop and have nice visit with Chuck. Still the same sarcastic 'bastard' with a heart of gold.

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: Peace
Date: 29 Jun 07 - 05:03 PM

I just had a pic of Wayne flash into my head. He had black hair, kinda longish, and he was gettin' some bald areas on the top in front/ Nice guy. Yep, you be right.

Mike? No bells on that.

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: C. Ham
Date: 29 Jun 07 - 05:04 PM

I think Rose's Cantina got started around 1973. Chris Rawlings and Bill Russell were part of it with Penny, at least in the beginning. I lost track of that scene after I moved away.

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: Peace
Date: 29 Jun 07 - 05:04 PM

Chuck is one of the finest people a guy's ever likely to meet. Bar none.

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz
Date: 29 Jun 07 - 05:11 PM

Yes. It kinda threw me off. Chuck Baker ran the hoots at The Yellow Door. I guess you also mean Wayne Rose(Penny Rose's Wayne. she ran Rose's Cantina in Morin Heights) And Mike Regenstrief, Folk Roots/Folk Branches, CKUT, also on myspace. I just emailed him a short time ago. The Golem was a nice room, I opened for Roger"Jim"McGuinn(Byrds) there. Mike's a real strong supporter of Folk Music.
Dylan is playing Le Festival de Jazz de Montreal, at Place des Arts, but with tix at $125.00, the times are gonna hafta be changin' before I go. Or, maybe not. I'll have to speak to the gods of denari on that one. Or, throw caution to the wind and just do it. I don't expect Bob to be comin' over the house in the near future. If you know what I mean. His new stuff is strong, but I'm from the generation of "It's all over now, baby blue". Chris(Rawlings) was saying something about Dylan hosting some form of radio program or something. We didn't get into details. I gotta get downtown to the Fest. So it's so long for now...bob

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: lefthanded guitar
Date: 29 Jun 07 - 05:16 PM

I am not sure if Chris Rawlings is the songwriter I had an album by (it was recently ruined in a basement flood)

If so he was an amazing songwriter.I think One of the songs was
Pearl River Turnaround, and went:

It's twenty six miles to the Pearl River turnaround
Never very far in the sun and the rain
If you dont' get back to the Pearl River turnaround
you'll never get back again


or something like that.

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: C. Ham
Date: 29 Jun 07 - 05:18 PM

That's Chris Rawlings' song. But "it's ONLY six miles to the Pearl River turnaround."

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: Peace
Date: 29 Jun 07 - 05:21 PM

Chris is one heckuva songwriter. I'm lookin' forward to hearing him come the end of July.

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz
Date: 29 Jun 07 - 05:28 PM

PEACE: Just saw your name pop up. The posts are coming in so fast, so I didn't see the other posts before I could react. You know Scotty's gone. I guess you picked it up from the thread. Saw Diane last night. She didn't know and asked me if I told you. Life is LIFE bro. Hope to see you one day...Remembering Lindsay. Got to hit it for downtown. Hang in there. Bless...bob

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: Peace
Date: 29 Jun 07 - 05:31 PM

Thanks, Bob.

Hey, any chance you'll do one song with me at the festival? Maybe two?

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz
Date: 30 Jun 07 - 12:24 PM

PEACE: You know, I was just thinking about that...I could call myself "LOVE", and we could then go on as "PEACE and LOVE". Then maybe tour. Sorta like Sonny and Cher, but I WILL NOT wear one of those slinky sequined dresses, no matter what!!! And forgettaboutit on any of that thong thingy, "If I could turn back time time wardrobe malfunction costumey stuff," I have my pride, not much, but some. (Unless, somebody comes up with some SERIOUS coin...) Tell ya what. I was thinking about how to motivate you. You know, how to get that best performance out of you. The "Che Guevara Child" that I KNOW is deep within...So, I have just two words to say to you...George Bush! Hey! We COULD put our old band back together. As soon as some of the boys finish their sentences. Ah yes. These Mudcatters cannot hope to realize the sheer awesome power of THE GREASE REVIEW. The "differences of opinion" before the shows. The mammaries. Er, make that memories. And O.K. O.K., I'll leave the switchblade at home. After all, we are now Peace and Love!
But seriously Folks, I'm working on a way to get there as I'm Vehicularly Challenged at the present time. And in closing, a bit of shameless self promotion, My album, "The Ghost of Elvis" was released worldwide on all major digital distribution sites, iTunes, eMusic, etc. last night. So it's Celebration City over here....See ya 'round the festival...bob

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: Peace
Date: 30 Jun 07 - 04:07 PM

You bring a copy with you because I want it autographed. Also, your memory is going. It was THE SUPER GREASE REVIEW. As for the switch blade, it was a gravity knife. Man, you HAVE mellowed. Man, ya gotta get there for Saturday. We can practise for a half hour before the show and the songs will ROCK!

OK then, I'LL wear the sequin dress, but no clashing colours. Like, we gotta sound OK but more importantly, we gotta look GOOOOOOD!

Bob, I wish you lots and lots of success. I love what I've heard of it. And hey, I ain't got a CD to sell, so why not bring a few with you and see if we can sell them there? I haven't checked with the Festival people, but since we're not gonna carry weapons, maybe they'd consider a quid pro quo.

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz
Date: 30 Jun 07 - 04:35 PM

PEACE: There is no CD, yet. I'm doing a "Paul McCartney"(Memory Almost Full). It's a digital download only, but with 100,000,000+ iPods out there alone, PLUS, every computer, phone, and MP3 player totalling 1 BILLION people on-line, do you think anybody will notice? I got ads in N.Y.C. & San Francisco now, and more to come... You can see it now at eMusic. They got me listed under Jazz/Blues. I guess everybody's gonna have an opinion as to what it is. BOOYEAH! bob

p.s. it WAS a switchblade!!!

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: Peace
Date: 30 Jun 07 - 08:36 PM

Dammit. So PUT it on a CD and autograph it and sell me one. I have no bloody idea what I-pods are. There's a guy on another thread who had a colonoscophy recently and I think he said he said they found some there. You absolutely sure it wasn't a gravity knife?

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: bobad
Date: 30 Jun 07 - 08:50 PM

BOB, if you need a ride to the festival I have friends who live near you and will be going, I can ask if they would be willing to accomodate you.

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz
Date: 01 Jul 07 - 11:56 AM

bobad/PEACE: That would be great. Chris Rawlings is looking out for a ride for me as well. Thanks.
In the last 3 months Apple sold it's 100,000,000th iPod. The mobile device that attaches to computers to download MP3's. I think just about every kid I've seen has one permanently attached(almost). Then Warner Bros. laid off 400 people and Sam the Record Man in T.O. closed it's doors. Then, Paul McCartney did "Memory Almost Full" as a digital download. I keep my ear to the ground on this stuff. And as a suggestion to all Mudcatters, if you want to get your songs to the people, this is going to be the way. Example. My album was released on all major digital download stores on June 29. This morning, it showed up on Google and was listed on the "This is Jazz" blog. Google my name to see what's happening. I'll take care of you Peace. And, if I look carefully through my screen here, you look a little bit like this great Singer/Songwriter I saw a long time ago. He used to do some protest songs and ballads. If you see him, tell him to get writing, find some tekkies, and get his stuff out on the net as MP3's. Thanks. bob

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: bobad
Date: 02 Jul 07 - 07:24 PM

OK Bob, I've been in touch with my friends in Pointe Claire and they are willing to haul your butt down to Ormstown, they are going Saturday AM and returning Saturday evening. If you are interested just let me know and we'll arrange details as the event draws more nigh.

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz
Date: 02 Jul 07 - 08:31 PM

Bobad: O.K. Sounds Good...Thanks! bob

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Jul 07 - 08:48 PM

I've just now checked back on this list to find the responses about Leonda Hardison.

My dad "Doc" Comins did sell the Turks Head in Boston in '67. He thought it was getting too crazy in the city after he and Rolf Cahn, when walking along the Boston Commons, were mugged by 3 men. The story goes that Rolf spotted them coming and said to my dad: "You take the one on the left, kick him in the balls with all your might. I'll take the other two."

Sure enough, the fellow in the middle pulled a knife. Rolf emitting a blood curtling karate scream kicked him in the head, knocking him out. My dad kicked the other guy in the nuts, and Rolf had the third guy by the throat. He quickly gave up the assault and ran. The man with the knife was completely motionless. Rolf and Arn departed the scene swiftly, and they didn't look back.

Which reminds me that Rolf was a pretty heavy duty guy, when he was mad. I have other good stories about Rolf. Probably not appropriate for this thread.

How many on this list have played at the Turks Head before '68, and who are you. I was the smallest of the 4 kids running around.

jonathan

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: GUEST,carol
Date: 09 Jul 07 - 03:13 AM

I remember a man in a elk skin out fit at the St. Louis folk festival Im guessing it was april 1955,his name was Lingo the Drifter. What happen to him? I was 10 years old and impressed. He said he lived in a mt. top in Tenn.
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Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego
Date: 09 Jul 07 - 12:08 PM

If he had a coonskin cap and claimed to have "killed a b'ar when he was only three..." it would have to be Davy Crockett (the Walt Disney version) as portrayed by Fess Parker. Ironically, I marketed wine for Mr. Parker several years ago. He retired to a beautiful place up in the Santa Ynez Valley, near Santa Barbara, CA.

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: GUEST,Andy Leader
Date: 09 Jul 07 - 03:04 PM

I also met Luke Faust, probably 1961 or so, at the Indian Neck folk festival outside New Haven, CT, and I was deeply impressed and influenced.   I still occasionally perform one of his pieces, "The Spring of 65", accompanied by frailing banjo. Incidentally, I'm one of those little known 60's folksingers. I roomed with Rick Lee for 3 years, was friends with Taj Mahal and Buffy Saint Marie, and I played with them at the old Saladin coffee house in Amherst, MA. The four of us and some others traveled to New York to hear Bob Dylan, whom we had also met at Indian Neck, when he was the new kid playing at Gerdes, and I drove around NYC with Dylan in my fathers Oldsmobile. I was friends with Hedy West, who was infatuated with "Bobby" at the time, and she introduced me to Alan Lomax for whom I played a version of "Come All You Texas Rangers" which I had heard while hitchhiking through Nebraska. He said I should recite, rather than sing, the song's final line. In 1963 I was living in Dublin where I played at The Pike, an after-hours unpstairs venue, and jammed with Andy Irvine, Johnny Moynihan, Dominic Behan, and others. From the mid 60's on I've been living in Vermont, been in a few different bands, including Rooster Pie with Fiddlin Slim Baker, Fallen Arches with Fred Calrson and Suzie Norris, Barleycorn with Charles Woodard and Steve Hinds, and Rise Up Jack with Charles, John Drury, and Janet Leader. We did the coffee house circuit and some area festivals and First Nights. These days I mostly play fiddle for contradances, though I also do some singing of folk, old time, and parlor songs with Janet for small groups.    Andy Leader

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Jul 07 - 03:47 PM

Cisco Huston

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: GUEST,old village
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 01:33 PM

Effie siegerman, query 489, was less a folk singer than an early music specialist. He ran a madgrigal group in the West Village in the mid to late 1950s, doing renaissance and medieval music: Purcell, Monteverdi. He may have played lute or harpsichord, had a wife or girl friend named Felicia and was in a science or math doctoral program at NYU. All of which are distant memories, insecure.

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: coldjam
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 02:49 PM

This is a wonderful thread. Thanks to all youse guys, Frank Hamilton and Bob Rysakiemurflelemumble, Stringsinger, Suffet and the rest who offered those snapshots into the folkera...someone should put them all together in a book...it would make for some interesting reading-especially where and when everyone's paths crossed.Especially since you never hear the real story from the ones who made it to the big time. They seem to gloss everything over.

Frank, you didn't mention Pat & Barbara? Atlanta underground era. I woulda been there but I had to be in bed by 8:30. My husband and I do much the same thing, folk & comedy. Except P & B sounded more like Hedge and Donna and we sound more like, oh, Bugs bunny and Daffy Duck.They put out one album which I've heard-made when Barbara had a bad cold, but still good. My husband was their writer & producer, & told me all about it.I'm a boomer, but I'm a late boomer...that's right I'm a trophy wife. Oh yeah. :)

Charley, as for representing Michigan I can only offer a duo we just discovered that made some albums in the '60's called "The Keystone Bros". Bill & Steve. Hot musicians and very funny guys...banjo & piano! Trying to find out what happened to them. Cadillac Record in Detroit...anybody know anything about that there?

Mike: "Don't cry for us Argentina-just send us some Columbian?" Consider it stolen!

Judy

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 04:08 PM

coldjam: BEST mispronunciation of my name, EVER!!! (I have a collection) Now, you COULD have looked down the thread to find out how to spell it, but I'm not complaining... as I adjust my "air-tie" and do my weird Rodney Dangerfield impression, " Hey, I don't get no RESPECT around here!!!
Or, as Paris Hilton might say, " Hey, any Press is GOOD Press..."
But, kidding aside. This thread, the memories and all, is kind of a tribute to some very talented boys and girls who did the best they could with what they had, and put a smile on a great number of people's faces. Not to mention a song in their hearts. It's a GOOD thing for all of us to remember them, as I think of the great number of bluesmen that were my heroes who passed on with little notice. Maybe someone in the distant future will find this thread in some "cyber-bottle", time-capsule-thing-a-ma-jing and say, "that's the way it was..."
It's been a good day as I just got "Top Friended" on Gordon Lightfoot's "Official" Profile on myspace. He had 47 friends so far! Is it real? Don't much care. The thought was great...
bob

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: coldjam
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 04:25 PM

Bob, I actually had the correct spelling of your name right in front of me, as I planned to stalk you to your myspace. I can readily see your chagrin (might check that zipper)at the constant misspelling of your name. Our duo name has been misspelled and mangled so many times that we've considered misspelling it ourselves and seeing if THAT would get them to print it right! And ours doesn't use all the letters in the alphabet (that's just greedy Bob)

The cyber-bottle is a nice concept, I'd just like to see it put together. Someone, who has more time than I do could make an darn good start on mudcat.

I surfed across a family tree of musicians that revolved around the Kingston Trio a while back. It branched out to include an incredible number of performers who all worked with people who worked with people...kind of a 7 slices of bacon away from Bob Shane or something like that. Expanded, I think it would show clear back and including "Noah and sons" as the original folk group.It's an inbred little group isn't it?

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 06:14 PM

coldjam: Was going out for milk, then it started to rain. As my transportation is a bicycle and BMW(Bus-Metro-Walking) I'm back doing this... The Kingston Trio more or less started the Folk thing for me. Before that, Chuck Berry, Buddy Holly, Chris Montez(who I "talked" to on myspace, still doin' it..), Fats Domino, so many others and my trusty 1960 Emerson transistor radio(a birthday gift from Mom, God Bless...) occupied many an hour. Before that it was a crystal set, (headphones, oatmeal box, needle, wire to the plumbing) Got New York with that from Rhode Island, not bad for a 10 year old. The mind jumps back to Lightfoot, who I met at the Yellow Door in Montreal around '71-72'(It's all pretty much of a haze) Or as a biker friend used to say, "If you remember the 60's, you weren't really there..." Anyhound, he was up on the 2nd floor near the fireplace. Where the performers tune up. He was doing Place des Arts, I think, and stopped in to check the place out. I only knew him from "Early Morning Rain", and was expecting this 6'5" Indian wearing buckskins and all and being American, I had never seen him....The Yellow Door was strange like that. I think Leonard Cohen was in the audience at one point and used to go to the Spanish bars along Park Ave. in Montreal. So Lightfoot is in town and my friend, Josh Onderisin is living next door, living on corn flakes and music. Murray McLaughlin was up in that apartment, visiting at one point. Along with Bruce Cockburn, who stayed at a place called "The Ranch", not too far away. This is during the time he had "High Winds, White Sky", the big fuzzy dog, and dressed in "peasant clothes," complete with walking stick. We were all up there and Bruce is standing on his head in the corner of the room. I ask, "What's he doing?" Meditating. As we used to say, " you could smoke the rug in that place..." But Bruce wasn't into it. It's great that he became famous and is doing all the humanitarian stuff...We had a guitar show here in Montreal, July 6-8 at The Hyatt. Got to meet Linda Manzer,(who I'd heard about for (+/-) 37 years a Luthier from Toronto who tells me she made 5 guitars(+/-) for Bruce. What an Artist! And, I got a pick from the late 40's(a National) from one luthier, and a free T-shirt from another. A GREAT memory... Anyway, Jumping around in the time line here, Lightfoot is looking for a guitar player and offers the job to Josh. Don't quote me here, but he had Red Shea for years, but there was one point when the offer was made. $25,000/year in '71-'73 dollars, a princely sum. Josh TURNS IT DOWN. He was working with Chris Kearney and their album, "Pemmican Stash" was just coming out, and he followed that path. I still remember talking to Josh in that apartment. Playing guitar for Gordon Lightfoot was a big thing. You could still do sessions and the shows, but that's the way she goes...Josh and his lady Mary, listening and recording Ram Dass from the radio. All that stuff. He went on to work with Ian Thomas(Painted Ladies), Dave Thomas'(Saturday Night Live) brother. You can see him on one of Rush's album covers, the gray one with the guy and the pentagram. Josh is on the back, dressed as a puppet. Hugh Syme did the artwork. Milan Kimlicka was the arranger. Ian had 6 hits in the Top 10 over a period of a few years, in Canada, and had to go back to Producing at the CBC to make ends meet!. There truly is , no business like show business... That was when everybody was listening to music and, for me, practising 8 hours a day. Getting the technique from the records. It's funny how these things are a moment in time, then drift away in the clouds of your memory...Oh well, I guess everybody reading this has their own stories..More bubbles surfacing from the depths: I hear Gordon Lightfoot offers to play a show for $5000, I think, to the people who ran The Door. For an intimate concert. Which never took place as 5 G's is one thing to Gord, and the Federal Reserve to others. I can't really vouch for the complete accuracy of all of this, as some of it was second hand. We were all just players. It was the love of the music that kept us together. All the hoots at The Door. Oops, the thunder is coming in, gotta shut the computer down, and get that milk...See you all...bob

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: C. Ham
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 07:56 PM

Hey Bob,

What ever happened to Chris Kearney? I remember him playing the Golem quite often in the 1970s, but haven't heard of him since.

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 08:53 PM

C. Ham: Haven't got a clue re: Chris Kearney...
bob

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 09:13 PM

Hi Kids!: If you Google Chris(he preferred Christopher)Kearney, Pemmican Stash(Food carried in a pouch by native Canadians) you'll find that he formed a band called CHINA. Lee Ritenour, and Jeff Baxter of the Doobie Brothers did some of the session work. Bill King was on keys. Don't know if it's the same Bill King who is one of my friends on myspace, working out of Ontario, a killer player that sounds like Jerry Lee Lewis, Professor Longhair, and James Booker all rolled into one. Bill Baird(hope I got it right) was in there, but you can get the whole story(in part) for yourselves on Google. No trace after that it seems...
bob

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: GUEST,Tony Smith
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 11:53 PM

If Toronto folksinger Al Cromwell had been ambitious, I think he would be perhaps as well known to most people who know the 60's
folk and blues scene as Ritchie Havens was. Al was incomparably smooth. Uncharacteristically, Al got heavily into booze a his early fiftees and died, I'm not sure why, but probably for reasons that had much to do with his downfall in general. Duke, do you remember Al . . . do you remember his Josh White, Oscar Brown sort of delivery? Do you remember Brigitte D. and Doug Stewart, too? The
Dupont restautant? Gee, so long ago. Would we ever have imagined then that we were headed for dumb and dumber, and dumber stil, ecologically above all. Ah, yes, the last time I saw Al was when he played "The Work Song" at my anti-fur demonstration on Yongue street. He did the verses free tempo using a kind of flemenco style continual strum, and then shifted into a shuffle beat for the chorus . . . I've been workin' . . . I've been workin' . . . you know the rest, I'll bet. Oscar Browne died, too. Zal, as you must know. How about Doug Bush? Were you a friend of Chick Webb's?

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: Cool Beans
Date: 12 Jul 07 - 12:01 PM

Dang it, Bob R., you've got interesting things to say (love your BMW line) but have you not heard of science's latest triumph, the paragraph?

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: balladeer
Date: 12 Jul 07 - 03:48 PM

So much going on here. So little time to address it all. I will just say to Tony Smith that Al Cromwell and Doug Bush were great friends of mine when I was a little-known Toronto folksinger in the sixties, working under the handle Joanne Hindley-Smith. And I hung out in the laundromat with Zally Yanovsky next door to the Dupont cafe at the corner of St. George. These days I go by Crabtree and I'm having the most fun of my musical life. I have the world's greatest duo partner in Paul Mills, and I have to say it's way more fun than working alone! You can find us at
www.myspace/crabtreemills
Btw Doug Bush seems to have disappeared without a trace. Ruth Jones and I have both looked for him to no avail. If anyone knows anything, I'd appreciate hearing from you.

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: coldjam
Date: 12 Jul 07 - 05:22 PM

Do any of you you Canucks know James Gordon? I know he's been around since the '60s but he's still going. One of my favorite singer/ songwriters (obviously cause he does/did lots of humorous stuff.)

Bob I second the paragraph request! I'm really enjoying your input-it's just hard to keep my place in that sea of words! Maybe the words up there get so cold they group together for warmth?

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz
Date: 12 Jul 07 - 07:19 PM

Cool Beans/coldjam: Paragraphs are for wussies. Next thing you know you'll be wantin' me be be articulate!! And sure the words group together for warmth. It's like a a a a a WORD ORGY!!
When it's -40 wind chill, you don't leave anything hanging out by itself. Zippers freeze in weather like that...REMEMBER, I AM AN ARTISTE! This verbiage is a STYLE. A Marshall McLuhan, Stream of Conciousness, Indubitable, Extemporaneous, Inconsequential, CONNECTION with the Source of All Creation!!!! Did Anybody believe that?

O.K. O.K. Never let it be said that I would refuse a request. Here's your paragraph...

But at the
    same       time      let       us      not
             forget .....................................e.e. cummings

I             create                   I AM                                                                      THAT...

AND,    I    CoUlD hAVe wRIT tEN IT lIke tHIs, So       in TRuth

YOU                                              R                                  Lucky...

bob

p.s. And, on a cold night, if you stare at the above, and it begins to take the shape of an instrument, or you find a meaning in just the form. It will be time to go to the farm..

rebob

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Jul 07 - 07:55 PM

Washburn house. Anyone recalling stopping by the Washburn house on Root Street in Flint, MI playing with some of the era's best?

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: GUEST,jlmosher
Date: 13 Jul 07 - 08:07 PM

Hi-
I wanted to know if anyone knew about this post below. I am a little unclear because Monte Dunn is mentioned or did he write it? Monte was a big part of the Folk Music scene and he passed away this April 25, 2007. His discography is rather extensive to include Ian & Sylvia, David Blue, Music director for Chad Mitchell, Sonny and Cher, Richie Havens, Peter, Paul and Mary as well as a guitarist with Jack Eliot for the 1976 Phil Ochs Memorial Concert at the Felt Forum. He left his wife Liane Dunn and also three daughters on the West coast, Cleo, Jesse and Pam. I am his step-daughter, Jacquie.

Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: balladeer
Date: 21 Mar 07 - 02:07 PM

Monte Dunn.

And thanks for mentioning Raun MacKinnon. Took me back to a night in Toronto when we were both about eighteen and we sat on the floor of her hotel room swapping songs till dawn.

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: bobad
Date: 13 Jul 07 - 08:19 PM

Guest jlmosher, the post was made by balladeer and he was citing Monte Dunn as a "Little known 60's Folk Singer", my condolences on the passing of your stepfather, it sounds like he made quite a mark on the folk music scene.