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BS: Liberal Democratic nervous breakdown

Amos 14 Nov 04 - 11:54 PM
Ebbie 14 Nov 04 - 11:21 PM
McGrath of Harlow 14 Nov 04 - 10:08 PM
Once Famous 14 Nov 04 - 09:11 PM
Amos 14 Nov 04 - 09:00 PM
Once Famous 14 Nov 04 - 08:53 PM
Don Firth 14 Nov 04 - 08:32 PM
Once Famous 14 Nov 04 - 08:08 PM
Don Firth 14 Nov 04 - 07:00 PM
Amos 14 Nov 04 - 05:57 PM
Ebbie 14 Nov 04 - 02:18 PM
Don Firth 14 Nov 04 - 01:59 PM
GUEST,Frank 14 Nov 04 - 01:35 PM
Once Famous 14 Nov 04 - 11:59 AM
GUEST,Frank 13 Nov 04 - 04:09 PM
Stilly River Sage 13 Nov 04 - 01:47 PM
McGrath of Harlow 13 Nov 04 - 01:46 PM
John on the Sunset Coast 13 Nov 04 - 01:29 PM
Big Mick 13 Nov 04 - 12:43 PM
GUEST 12 Nov 04 - 10:15 PM
Don Firth 12 Nov 04 - 09:57 PM
McGrath of Harlow 12 Nov 04 - 06:44 PM
Amos 12 Nov 04 - 06:16 PM
Once Famous 12 Nov 04 - 05:56 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Democratic nervous breakdown
From: Amos
Date: 14 Nov 04 - 11:54 PM

I get it, Martin. So -- the world being as mean as it is, its a good thing we have a friend like you to break it to us gently? Or to put it another way, it isn't really YOU calling people abusive names, it is the meanness of the world, which you are only passing on as a favor?

How about trying to find ways to encourage poeple rather than abuse them? Not -me, man. I don't give a shit what kind of hot air comes out of your ass, frankly. I've seen a lot worse. But you really do lower the tone around here with your four-letter, six-word debating skills. Why not, yourself, buckle down and hold your position using reaosn instead of hateful language? I know you think you're doing folks a favor by toughening them up, but maybe they'd rather sign up for your therapy knowingly.

A
    OK, so I suppose that's about enough. How about starting a new thread if you'd like to continue the discussion. Try to be a bit more civil next time.
    Thanks.
    -Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Democratic nervous breakdown
From: Ebbie
Date: 14 Nov 04 - 11:21 PM

Hmmmm. A 'tic' is very common and MG certainly has tics. Even from here, they are almost visible.

"Although the word "involuntary" is used to describe the nature of the tics, this is not entirely accurate. It would not be true to say that people with TS have absolutely no control over their tics, as though it was some type of spasm; rather, a more appropriate term would be "compelling." People with TS feel an irresistable urge to perform their tics, much like the need to scratch a mosquito bite. Some people with TS are able to hold back their tics for up to hours at a time, but this only leads to a stronger outburst of tics once they are finally allowed to be expressed. "

Learn More, MG


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Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Democratic nervous breakdown
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 14 Nov 04 - 10:08 PM

"telling people they are full of shit, are gaping assholes, and on and on and on is verbal abuse"

That seems pretty obvious. I can't believe there are many people who would disagree with you on that, Amos. Evidently ** has persuaded himself that stuff like that isn't abuse.

It occurs to me to wonder whether this might be somehow related to Tourette's syndrome.


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Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Democratic nervous breakdown
From: Once Famous
Date: 14 Nov 04 - 09:11 PM

Amos, anyone who disagrees with you or insults you with or without profanity makes you feel abused. Your ego has the consistancy of a banana. People who's ego bruises easy are usually the first to cry abuse. Again, I would just as soon let this "discussion" go, but I do believe that at this point you are obseesing on it and it just might be the most important thing going for you right now.

Calling a spade a spade with colorful language can be interpreted as abuse I suppose.

It's a good excuse to not focus on the real issues that the one who feels abused should really be focusing on. I believe those people really have to deal with their own insecurities, and how to grow some tougher skin for this mean old world.


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Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Democratic nervous breakdown
From: Amos
Date: 14 Nov 04 - 09:00 PM

Martin:

Like many obsessive abusers, it isn't real to you that what you do is abusive, and I can onljy surmise that is because you are stuck in the horrible experiences that incite you to do so. Let me just assure you that telling people they are full of shit, are gaping assholes, and on and on and on is verbal abuse, helps no-one, accomplishes nothing and is harmful to your own psyche, to those who are not thick-skinned enough to recognize what you are doing, and to this community as a whole.

You are an abuser, Martin, and yet I have seen you write so often in ways that were intelligent and positive that it is hard to believe the two of you occupy the same skull. Maybe a heart to heart talk is in order! :)

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Democratic nervous breakdown
From: Once Famous
Date: 14 Nov 04 - 08:53 PM

Who gives a flying fuck about some cocksucker named Winston Rothschild III?

LOL how you keep coming back for more after you make such a fuss out of tuning me out.

You are very weird, Don. Truly very hypocritical.


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Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Democratic nervous breakdown
From: Don Firth
Date: 14 Nov 04 - 08:32 PM

Jeez! He's like one of these talking dolls. You yank his chain and he has about six responses. He and Winston Rothschild III must have gone to the same career counsellor because they both seem to be obsessed with the kind of same thing.   

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Democratic nervous breakdown
From: Once Famous
Date: 14 Nov 04 - 08:08 PM

Amos

No, you are wrong.

I don't abuse people.

I DO tell them if I think they are full of shit, which is basically what I am telling you.

If you feel abused because of that, you really should not hang around on web forums.

Don, I looked at the thread youi posted. I would post a link of a gaping asshole and put your name on it to describe you, but I don't believe that I want to spend the time doing that.


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Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Democratic nervous breakdown
From: Don Firth
Date: 14 Nov 04 - 07:00 PM

I believe I've found an explanation for the existence of Martin Gibson. HERE (courtesy of GUEST who posted this link on another thread).

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Democratic nervous breakdown
From: Amos
Date: 14 Nov 04 - 05:57 PM

Amos, I miss no point. You are an obsessive lunatic. That's my point.


You are mistaken on both counts. I am occasionally very persistant, but I am not obsessive, except sometimes about those of better gender than mine. And I am not a lunatic, although I am sometimes a tad eccentric.

And you still have not addressed the question of why you enjoy being abusive to other people. Since you have the brains to speak top real issues, why attack people in so nasty a way so often? What does it gain you?

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Democratic nervous breakdown
From: Ebbie
Date: 14 Nov 04 - 02:18 PM

The Bush election - if, and only, if it was a legitmate one- was brought about by their hitting people on so many different levels. All of them based on fear, imo. There was not one issue that had to do with creating a brighter future or a better country.

The other day a young man -41- and I got to talking about travel and other things, nothing political. As he was preparing to leave, he saw my copy of Kitty Kelley's book The Bush Dynasty and picked it up. I said, Do you want to borrow it? I'm finished with it.

He said, Sure. I'll take it on vacation with me. Is it good?

I said, I feel that I know the people better.

He said, OK. I voted for him.

He's going to get a shock.


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Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Democratic nervous breakdown
From: Don Firth
Date: 14 Nov 04 - 01:59 PM

John on the Sunset Coast, I don't know about the people you know who voted for Bush, but in the country as a whole, the largest single bloc were evangelical Christians. Falwell fans, adherents to The 700 Club, and overwhelming percentages of people who live in the "Bible Belt." The big issues with them were abortion, stem-cell research, and gay marriage. All you need to do is pay some attention to what's going on in the real world.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Democratic nervous breakdown
From: GUEST,Frank
Date: 14 Nov 04 - 01:35 PM

Jack the Sailor, I owe you an apology. I agree with your post.

Martin Gibson, the so-called Christian fundamentalists have a plan for you.
Jesus is going to come back to convert you and if you don't, they have a spot in Hell for you.

Frank


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Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Democratic nervous breakdown
From: Once Famous
Date: 14 Nov 04 - 11:59 AM

Frank, the election is over, Bush won and he will be president for the next 4 years and 2 months.

The next election, which will feature 2 new candidates and will be debated about issues which as of yet are unkown is probably about 3 1/2 years away from really heating up.

I hope that I've made that clear enough for you to understand and digest. Most third graders understand that.

Amos, I miss no point. You are an obsessive lunatic. That's my point.

Don Firth, I do not think that Bush sits at the right hand of God but I do believe you can really stink up a bathroom, or a web forum for that matter.

As far as shopping at Wal-Mart, I've worked hard at making a living for years with much continuity, which I am sure that you never have done with your limited skills. Where and how I spend my money is none of your fucking business, you elitist pig.


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Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Democratic nervous breakdown
From: GUEST,Frank
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 04:09 PM

Doug, the election is far from over. George was elected on the slimmest margin in American history. Even Wilson in 1919 with 3 1/2% Bush with less.
There are also many who are hopping mad that this election might have been suppressed and stolen.

Guest, you are a divider and not a uniter. You are attacking people who could find common ground with you. You are far too self-important for anyone to want to follow you. Stick to the issues and save your insults.
You'll have more traction.

Frank


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Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Democratic nervous breakdown
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 01:47 PM

They certainly trumped the wishes of those who wish the federal govt. would spend tax money on the citizenry at home and not on policing the world. Let Europe pay for its own milatary, and get the hell out of Iraq. Spend tax dollars to explore alternative fuel solutions instead of colonizing the middle east. Whoever "they" were who returned Bush to the White House, they can't see past the smoke screen that Bush and his pals have kept in place since he first ran for office.


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Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Democratic nervous breakdown
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 01:46 PM

"All the men between my last Guest post 12 Nov 04 - 01:00 PM are in my psychic killfile, and I no longer respond to anything they write."

But how can you get anything in between a single post?


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Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Democratic nervous breakdown
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 01:29 PM

Don Firth, you say that the 'evangelicals' Nonsense! America, as we know it, won. Of all the folks I know who voted for the President -and they far outnumbered those voting for the other guy- not one of them could be remotely classified as evangelical, and I, myself, am Jewish. There are still some of out there who believe that the Feral (er, federal) government should stay out of the way of things better handled at the state and/or local level.


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Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Democratic nervous breakdown
From: Big Mick
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 12:43 PM

Actually, GUEST, that's not true. What you do is read the posts and then reply to them by using other posts. It kind of makes me laugh. But that is OK. I actually enjoy the new relationship because it allows me to do what I asked that we do at least 4 times. It allows a discussion of the issues without the invective. And it allows a discussion of other things we have a common interest in, such as Great Lakes shipwrecks.

Works pretty good, and it is nice to be able to see your intellect without the nastiness.

But I do wish you would answer the questions about Nader and how you could support him. You have been ducking that since I first raised it.

Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Democratic nervous breakdown
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Nov 04 - 10:15 PM

Excellent advice, Don. I call it putting posters in my psychic killfile. All the men between my last Guest post 12 Nov 04 - 01:00 PM are in my psychic killfile, and I no longer respond to anything they write. Ever. New leaf I turned over on election day. It's turned off the static for me completely, making my Mudcat experience much more enjoyable.

I don't know why I didn't think of it before, but it has been working really well for me. So I highly recommend your recommendation to tune out the posters that bother you highly!


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Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Democratic nervous breakdown
From: Don Firth
Date: 12 Nov 04 - 09:57 PM

Don't let Marty wind you up, Amos. Consider the source. Just remember, he thinks that Bush sits at the Right Hand of God, and not only does he shop at Wal-Mart, he brags about it.

I've learned to treat him like static on the radio. It's a general annoyance, I can't really do anything about it, and it contains no worthwhile information, so I just try to ignore it.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Democratic nervous breakdown
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 12 Nov 04 - 06:44 PM

Is it really worth trading posts with **, Amos. He's specifically boasted several times that ** doesn't actually exist, but is just a made up character, for playing around with on the net. Much better surely to let him play with himself, and treat the posts as a kind of static.


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Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Democratic nervous breakdown
From: Amos
Date: 12 Nov 04 - 06:16 PM

You miss the point. You aren't causing me pain. But you seem to enjoy an abusive style of communication, making insults out of anyy communication.

I don't dish out that kind of blunt abusive crap, although I do get sarcastic.

My question is, why do you do it?

You still don't want to face that one, and I guess you won't.



A


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Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Democratic nervous breakdown
From: Once Famous
Date: 12 Nov 04 - 05:56 PM

Amos, you really ought to consider what kind of movies you are watching.

I, myself, am much more discerning.

If I am causing you pain, bud, you have a real problem that you should find a doctor with a nice comfortable couch and a nice fresh prescription tablet.

You dish it out, but you can't take it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Democratic nervous breakdown
From: Amos
Date: 12 Nov 04 - 02:17 PM

No, Martin. It isn't just me. In general, I try to be civil. I have been hot-headed about Iraq, and about Mister Bush, but that is not jsut my social style, it is a protestaion at a deep level against murder being committed.

For the most part I do not intend, like you, to be hurtful.

And BBruce, you and I have had plenty of disagreements, not about your conservatism as such, but about the actions of people and analysis of events outside this forum. If I have stepped on your toes, well, please accept my apologies.

Martin, I am nopt going to introvert on your snide superiority. Your attitude seems to be that you can freely use harmful and abusive language because you find people's reactions entertaining.

This reminds me of a movie I recently saw in which a small boy takes delight in the pain and travail of ants on whom he has poured hot candle wax.

Isn't it just a little disgusting to seek to cause pain, and delight in doing so?


A


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Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Democratic nervous breakdown
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 12 Nov 04 - 01:24 PM

So why keep on posting as GUEST without any label?

There have been all kinds of GUESTs without labels here, some of them with political views further to the right than yours are to the left. And in fcat to expect people to apply techniques of linguistic analysis and telepathy to work out which one it is in any instance displays a kind of arrogance that I've generally come across in people from the far right.

There has to be some kind of reason - the one that sometimes gets given seems to be "because it's allowed", but that isn't any kind of reason. There's no law against standing on my head, but that's not a reason for doing it. And "my reasons are none of your business" isn't a reason either, it's just a way of changing the subject. I'm not suggesting you should use anything that might identify you - after all, very few of us here do that. Keep your mask on, by all means, but why not use one that enables people to distinguish you from other people in masks?


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Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Democratic nervous breakdown
From: Big Mick
Date: 12 Nov 04 - 01:20 PM

OK, let's say I bought that self serving load of shit (which I don't), then how is it that a good socialist like yourself would promote a man who was a capitalist of the first order, a union buster, and a liar? That isn't demonization, that is just a question based on fact. You are shallow, and have a martyr complex. Like most folks that are afflicted with your condition, you are intelligent. But you are a phoney.

Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Democratic nervous breakdown
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Nov 04 - 01:00 PM

Sorry, I also meant to mention that while I am not an anarchist myself, I have no problem with anarchism and anarchists, and have worked in many a political coalition with them over the years.

I find the fear and hate mongering done today to demonize progressives, liberals, and anarchists especially, to be no different than the 50s McCarthyism.


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Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Democratic nervous breakdown
From: Once Famous
Date: 12 Nov 04 - 12:43 PM

But you are not happening.


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Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Democratic nervous breakdown
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Nov 04 - 12:35 PM

Yes, I'm the guest so many of you keep going on about.

Yes, I stand proudly and unapologetically to the left of liberals on the political spectrum.

Especially the Mudcat Democratic party liberals whom, like Bill Clinton, are politically conservative enough "centrists" to be southern Republicans, pragmatically speaking. They remain Democrats in name only due to their tribal loyalties, not their place on the political spectrum.

I do have utter contempt for gnuine liberals though, have all my life.

I am not officially a socialist, but I believe there is much the US could learn from socialist governments as are found in Sweden, Denmark, etc. I would like to see the US adopt a hybridized form of capitalism and socialism, and learn to mind it's own business, instead of imposing it on other nations. In my experience, capitalist bureaucratic governments are no more effective, productive, etc. than socialist bureaucratic governments in providing for the general welfare of the people. In fact, strong arguments can be made at this point (and I make them often) that capitalist bureaucracies do a pretty poor job of caring for their minions, compared to the nations with some hybridized system that incorporates both capitalism and socialism.

That hardly justifies me being labelled mentally ill or of having a nervous breakdown, no matter how crazy the bleedin' liberals make me.

I have been talking a lot in recent weeks about the extreme anger and hatred surrounding this election, especially among Kerry supporters, both here in the forum, and in my 3D life here in Minnesota.

The above article cited by beardedbruce, along with the Kerry supporter who committed suicide at Ground Zero, just serve to illustrate my point. It is happening.


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Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Democratic nervous breakdown
From: beardedbruce
Date: 12 Nov 04 - 05:52 AM

APPLE VALLEY, Minnesota (AP) -- Three high school students, one allegedly armed with a bat, were charged with attacking a pro-President Bush classmate after he reportedly said only gays would support Sen. John Kerry.

"It's a good thing to see young people interested and excited about politics," said Dakota County Attorney James Backstrom. "It's obviously very disturbing to see this kind of violence over it."

http://www.cnn.com/2004/EDUCATION/11/11/school.fight.ap/index.html


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Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Democratic nervous breakdown
From: Once Famous
Date: 11 Nov 04 - 02:58 PM

Nerd, I've kind of noticed that all along, but I consider it kind of a guilt by assoiation thing.

this moron Guest is so far left that he is almost just to the right of you already. I mean, how many steps can you take to the left until you have gone around the world and are back where you started?

He is what I think you would call a radical's radical.

I call him an idiot.

Amos, Beardedbruce said it all so elequently. You are going to have to deal with the fact that people like me disagree with just about everything you say and how serious you take yourself as the gospel of the world, and actually have fun doing it while rolling my eyes in amazement at you.

You rant. I poke. I laugh. Welcome to Mudcat!

That's a real answer. Deal with it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Democratic nervous breakdown
From: Nerd
Date: 11 Nov 04 - 02:20 AM

Martin,

I'd like to clarify one thing: the GUEST who kept screaming that the US should lose is not in fact a liberal democrat having a nervous breakdown. He/she has been very clear on this thread and elsewhere that he/she hates the Democrats, hates liberals and everything they stand for. He/she calls him/herself a "progressive" and is left of Democrat, left of Liberal, perhaps socialist/communist/anarchist, etc.

And he's been having this nervous breakdown since about the time Kerry got the nomination...


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Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Democratic nervous breakdown
From: GUEST,Howdy
Date: 11 Nov 04 - 01:19 AM

You forgot the bowel movements Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Democratic nervous breakdown
From: Big Mick
Date: 11 Nov 04 - 01:13 AM

From The Nation, Editorial, November 22, 2004:

The Democratic Party is not the only vehicle for change. Historically, that party's finest moments have come when it was pushed into action from outside by popular movements, from the labor movement to the civil rights movement to the women's movement to the gay rights movement. Such movements--independent of the Democratic Party but powerfully influencing it -- must foster and increase their strength. The Nation will support these movements.

We must all stand and fight.


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Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Democratic nervous breakdown
From: GUEST,of Date: 08 Nov 04 - 10:44 PM
Date: 11 Nov 04 - 12:06 AM

I am just another terrorist playing headgames with the filthy infidels.
Praise Allah


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Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Democratic nervous breakdown
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 10 Nov 04 - 10:13 PM

Ah, of course. The bearded one enters the fray. Amos is generally civil to those he disagrees with, BB, but apparently you haven't noticed.


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Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Democratic nervous breakdown
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 Nov 04 - 09:58 PM

Amos,

Perhaps you need a mirror- all that you have accused Martin of I have observed in your various rants against those that disagree with you.


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Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Democratic nervous breakdown
From: Amos
Date: 10 Nov 04 - 09:37 PM

Martin:

Explain, if you would, why it is so attractive to you to demean human beings, communicate in abusive ways and make nothing out of people. This isn't me having a nervous breakdown of any kind. This is me asking you, as a human, why you wish to hurt, abrade, assault or insult or nullify other people. It isn't about having a good joke or pulling a chain, either. (Don't even try that greasy rationalization, you know better!).

Thanks for a real answer, if you have one.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Democratic nervous breakdown
From: Greg F.
Date: 10 Nov 04 - 08:51 PM

What he says is hardly a joke. What he is, however, is



another story.


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Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Democratic nervous breakdown
From: jaze
Date: 10 Nov 04 - 08:13 PM

Martin, are we to believe all the hateful things you say to people are a joke? Tongue in cheek?


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Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Democratic nervous breakdown
From: Ebbie
Date: 10 Nov 04 - 07:54 PM

Hmmm. Which meaning are YOU giving it, pdq?

putz    ( P ) Pronunciation Key (pts)
n.
Slang. A fool; an idiot.
Vulgar Slang. A penis.


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Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Democratic nervous breakdown
From: pdq
Date: 10 Nov 04 - 01:55 PM

Ebbie - "putz" is also slang for "leader". Get used to it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Democratic nervous breakdown
From: Ebbie
Date: 10 Nov 04 - 01:48 PM

George W Putz. Hmmmmm. Has a nice ring to it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Democratic nervous breakdown
From: DougR
Date: 10 Nov 04 - 01:38 PM

SRS: your post at 11:01 Nov. 8: THe dog would have caught the rabbit IF it hadn't stopped to pee.

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Democratic nervous breakdown
From: Once Famous
Date: 10 Nov 04 - 12:49 PM

Frank,

You spoke sensibly there up until you referred to our president's name.

Then again, your anger came out. Brush up on your Yiddish. I do believe you meant to say putz.

I wholeheartedly agree about the differences in culture and thinking here.

Like any compromise, it's going to be a meet in the middle. Your biggest worry should not be about Bush. He's in and you can cry foul from here to Hammond, Indiana and no one will listen. It's who's next? can they convince both sides?


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Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Democratic nervous breakdown
From: GUEST,Frank
Date: 10 Nov 04 - 12:42 PM

There is no breakdown. There is a reinforcement of Liberal values as a result of this election. We realize that we need to make our message more clear.
But we are getting stronger. There are two Americas right now. It is a cultural civil war that's going on. Half of the country may be in denial about this but there is not a blanket cooperation with George W. Putsch.

Frank


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Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Democratic nervous breakdown
From: Once Famous
Date: 10 Nov 04 - 10:45 AM

Amos, it's a riot to yank your chain!

You are even a better example of a Liberal Democrat nervous breakdown.

You take yourself way too seriously and this forum is just not about you and your way of thinking. The tone of this forum is just not YOUR tone, Amos. It's whatever tone a poster wants to make it.

What did you do with your very short absence Amos? clean out the basement? Watch TVLand? Wackoff to a Playboy issue? work on your psoraisis?

Go pick your nose. I believe it is you who are so wrapped up in being right. People CAN be happy without constantly analyzing what comes out of it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Democratic nervous breakdown
From: Amos
Date: 09 Nov 04 - 10:01 PM

Martin:

Your record on insight and compassion and upholding the best American values qualifies you to speak -- not!! You have heaped abuse time after time on those who did not deserve it, as well as some who did, and you have exalted antagonism and verbal brutality as a high virtue. You have consistently and repeatedly degraded the quality of conversations by resorting to boastful obscenity as a crude and abrasive substitute for communication. In doing so you have repeatedly lowered the tone of this forum and offered to it the very worst example of American values at work.

You have no sense of shame, because you are so wrapped up in being right. But if you had one, shame would be appropriate for you. The time-honored American virtue of humility in strength, one which we have shown at the best of times, is an empty concept to you.

You are not fit to speak for American citizenry. You speak more for the worst of our weakest and most reactionary brutes.

The truly lasting, truly transcendant and truly great elements of America will not truck with brutality because they see through it, right down to the ugly black coal it calls a soul.

Good luck recovering your selfhood, Martin. Yer gonna need it.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Democratic nervous breakdown
From: Once Famous
Date: 09 Nov 04 - 09:51 PM

GUEST of Date: 08 Nov 04 - 10:44 PM

You are perfect example of a Liberal democrat having a nervous breakdown.

You are really a pretty piss poor American. And if you are not an American, you are just a pretty piss poor excuse of a person.


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