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Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks

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Subject: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Rabbi-Sol
Date: 06 Nov 04 - 08:46 PM

How many films can you name that have Folk Music songs as part of their soundtrack ? For example I will start off with this. The Australian folk song "Overlanders" was the main theme of the soundtrack for the movie "The Sundowners", which I believe was about the "drovers" (Australian cowboys). SOL ZELLER


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Padre
Date: 06 Nov 04 - 08:51 PM

Several examples in "The Long Riders," about the James/Younger gang


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Nov 04 - 03:28 AM

How about songs in films that are NOT folks songs but because they were sung as folk songs, people have forever after assumed that they were...example:

"Love me Tender" in some Elvis movie that takes place in the Civil War. If I had a dollar for every time somebody has tried to convince me that "love me tender" is some old traditional song, sung during the Civil War...I'd be a rich republican who voted for Bush.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 07 Nov 04 - 04:02 AM

Far From The Madding Crowd is rich in traditional song.
I remember, Seeds Of Love, Trooper And The Maid, Bushes And Briars.

The John Ford John Wayne cavalry films usually had songs. I remember, Bold Fenian Men, Yellow Ribbon, Girl I Left Behind Me, Garyowen.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: GUEST,Barrie Roberts
Date: 07 Nov 04 - 04:53 AM

'Love me Tender' is a slight variant of 'Aura Lee', a nineteenth century love ballad. 'Aura Lee' can be heard on the sound track of 'East of Eden'.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 07 Nov 04 - 05:09 AM

Lots of traditional shanty's in the Gregory Peck version of Moby Dick, even a brief glimpse of A L Lloyd singing Blood Red Roses.

eric


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Chris Green
Date: 07 Nov 04 - 10:20 AM

There's few in Pasolini's version of The Canterbury Tales (1972). It's a rather odd viewing experience (even by Pasolini standards) as it features several well-known British actors who've been dubbed into Italian and then re-subtitled into English! I guess the obvious one for folksong in film would be The Wicker Man (1973) - some of them are original compositions by Paul Giovanni, but they all sound like the genuine article!


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: katlaughing
Date: 07 Nov 04 - 11:23 AM

Another modern one which sounds as though it could be an old one is from Legends of the Fall (scroll down for a midi of it.) I think it is called "Twilight and Mist" but haven't looked for the lyrics, yet.

Dare I mention the obvious, O'Brother? Or, A Mighty Wind?**bg**


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Nerd
Date: 07 Nov 04 - 11:47 AM

The main theme of The Piano is a Tannahill song called "Gloomy Winter's Noo Awa'," and the main theme of Brassed Off is "The Dalesman's Litany."

A Mighty Wind has no actual folk songs in it, and indeed no parodies of folk songs; there are only parodies of songs written in the 1960s. But there were two traditional song parodies cut out of the film: "Corn Wine," a John Barleycorn-type thing, and "Killington Hill," a brutal murder ballad. Look for them on the DVD!

"Songcatcher" has some good performances.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Phil Cooper
Date: 07 Nov 04 - 12:25 PM

Don't forget Barry Dransfield's Water is Wide and some tunes in the Mel Gibson/Anthony Hopkins version of The Bounty.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 07 Nov 04 - 03:59 PM

Tunes rather than songs on the soundtrack of Barry Lyndon (Starring Ryan O'Neil). Music played by The Chieftains tunes include "Women of Ireland".
Quack!!
GtD.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Rabbi-Sol
Date: 07 Nov 04 - 05:05 PM

Don't forget Sacco & Venzetti by Joan Baez. SOL ZELLER


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Tannywheeler
Date: 07 Nov 04 - 08:19 PM

Hi, guys. There was a movie made of McCourt's "Angela's Ashes". At the party scene at the end "Angela" sings a song about taking care of your mother, 'cause you'll miss her when she's gone. This song was very popular at a local weekly session that went on in Austin during the early 1980s. (We had a group of songs referred to as "the death spiral" we might sing if there'd been a death in someone's family recently. Some of them were deep and bitter, some matter-of-fact, some facetious.) One of the lines of this song was "...though withered, old, and gray. You'll never miss your mother's love 'til she's buried beneath the clay." I never heard that song attributed to any one. I thought of it as public domain, at least. When we recognized (my hubby and I had been invited to a sneak preview of this movie) the song after the first 3 notes/words, we clutched hands, looked at each other, tried not to laugh out loud.      Tw


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Splott Man
Date: 08 Nov 04 - 03:20 AM

The Wonder Boys with Michael Douglas has a superb OST album, not much in the way of trad, but tracks by Dylan, Leonard Cohen, Tom Rush among others.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 08 Nov 04 - 10:24 AM

A few songs in ' Far From The Madding Crowd. '

Thomas Hardy was a traditional fiddler.

eric


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: greg stephens
Date: 08 Nov 04 - 10:45 AM

There are too many to attempt any kind of list. I'll pick out a couple of unusual ones. Mick Jagger sang "The Wild Colonial Boy" in the Ned Kelly film. Marlon Brando sang a snatch of "Long gone Lost John" in a film I've been trying to identify for years, and nobody remembers this except me, so if you could add the name of this film here I'd be eternally grateful.
    An interesting list would be the number of films that have got a fiddler playing Soldiers Joy in. Hundreds, I would think!


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Rozza
Date: 08 Nov 04 - 12:00 PM

I love the Irs DeMent version of "Pretty Saro" from "Songcatcher", but haven't heard any other tracks or seen the film. Any opinions?


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Nov 04 - 12:03 PM

My failing memory seems to recall several tunes that would qualify from the old movie, Tom Jones.

Lin


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Nerd
Date: 08 Nov 04 - 04:19 PM

Rozza,

Songcatcher is worth seeing. If you are a historical purist it may annoy you, since it is fictional. I have known a few people to get annoyed at it. But there are good performances, both from actual trad singers and from actors who do a pretty darn good job. In addition to the soundtrack album, they put out a number of "music that inspired Songcatcher" CDs with folks like Doc Watson, Almeda Riddle, etc. Those are definitely worth it if you don't have those tracks on other albums already.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 08 Nov 04 - 04:44 PM

No-one has yet mentioned O Brother. Quite a number, though many people don't like what was done with some of them.

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Nerd
Date: 08 Nov 04 - 04:52 PM

Actually, Uncle Dave-O, Katlaughing did at 07 Nov 04 - 11:23 AM


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Folkiedave
Date: 08 Nov 04 - 07:16 PM

Errr.............the film "Heartlands" about to come out on DVD features Kate Rusby and would have starred Sheffield City Morris had we not ended on the cutting room floor. Fingers crossed - we may be in the Director's Cut.


Dave Eyre


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Blissfully Ignorant
Date: 08 Nov 04 - 07:52 PM

I actually bought the O Brother soundtrack. Never regretted it. For one thing, it introduced me to Gillian Welch, for which i am eternally grateful.

What about the Wicker Man? hehehehhehee....


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 09 Nov 04 - 12:36 AM

In the 1951 Alastair Sim movie Scrooge - the definitive one IMHO - Barbara Allen was played a lot, both as a theme/motif and as a party song in Scrooge's nephew's party.
Tanny wheeler, the song you were recalling is A Mother's Love's A Blessing.

A mother's love's a blessing,
No matter where you roam,
Keep her while she's living,
You'll Miss her when she's gone.
Love her as in childhood,
Though feeble, old and gray,
For you'll never miss your mother's love
Till she's buried beneath the clay.

Seamus


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: sledge
Date: 09 Nov 04 - 02:25 AM

The songs used are contemporary but Joan Baez sings beautifully for the sci-fi movie silent running.

Cheers

Sledge


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: katlaughing
Date: 09 Nov 04 - 02:36 AM

I don't know if they are folk songs or not, but ever since I was little, I've loved hearing Sean Connery sing in one of his earliest roles in Disney's Darby O'Gill and the Little People. The songs are listed as "The Wishing Song" and "Pretty Irish Girl."

What about Dances with wolves? Were there any in it?

(I knew that Mighty Wind didn't have any! Was just joking:-)

Dave, please let us know. That would be realy neat!


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Hovering Bob
Date: 09 Nov 04 - 04:27 AM

The film 'The Sirens' opens with a very atmospheric scene of a liner sailing on her way to Australia, where the rest of the film is set, to the accompaniment of "The Grey Funnel Line" without the chorus/refrain line.
Given that it was a passenger liner I can see why they dropped The Grey Funnel Line bit, but it jarred!!!


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Dead Horse
Date: 09 Nov 04 - 07:16 AM

Cold Mountain, with the banjo & vocals provided by Riley Baugus.
Did I mention that Riley is appearing at Roots our local folk & blues hangout?
That will be on Wednesday 17th November.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 09 Nov 04 - 07:20 AM

What about Robert Shaw in ' Jaws ' singing ' Farewell and Adieu You Sweet Spanish Ladies '

eric


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: s6k
Date: 09 Nov 04 - 08:54 AM

i highly recommend cold mountain, lots of good ones on there including a couple by jack white, of the white stripes, who has a true love of real blues and folk songs


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Tradsinger
Date: 09 Nov 04 - 01:28 PM

I echo the previous posting about "Songcatcher" - a great film for folkies with some great singing, music and dance. It's not available in the UK but you can get it mail order so long as your DVD player can cope with region 1. Well worth it. Nice NC versions of Mathy Groves and Barbara Allan.

Gwilym


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Blissfully Ignorant
Date: 09 Nov 04 - 01:33 PM

I want to see Cold Mountain because Jack White's in it...


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: GLoux
Date: 09 Nov 04 - 03:07 PM

I vaguely remember Greensleeves in a John Wayne movie (I think) The Sons of Katie Elder...

-Greg


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Nov 04 - 03:45 PM

There have been a couple of good ones recently that I can think of.

Of course you have the Pogues appearing in several films: Two if By Sea, Grosse Point Blank, Sid and Nancy though usually their film material is their least traditional.

Patrick Street's Music for a found harmonium appears in Hear My Song.

The whole score for Miller's Crossing sounds an awful lot like a track on a Boys of the Lough album. As a side note if anyone knows what track this is from the boys of the lough I would appreciate.

So there are a couple.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Tannywheeler
Date: 09 Nov 04 - 06:56 PM

Right, Seamus K. That's the cho. One of the verses starts out about an Irish boy "...leaving his native home to cross the wide Atlantic, where (something, something) roam...". The other verse talks about finding a wife, settling down in life, gathering his children around his knee, where he would "...teach them the same lesson that my mother she told to me -- WHICH IS,..." then that cho. again.
erictr, there was also "Show me the way to go home" in that movie.
And I wish some clever person would do something with "You're gonna need a bigger boat" that would make it a classic song. Deserves it.
BTW, I have long felt that someone should write something really strong, cutting, biting, ironic, pointed, ungentle with the phrase from "Wizard of Oz"-- "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain; IIII am the great and powerful wizzud ..." Seems like now is the needed time....      Tw


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Nov 04 - 06:29 PM

A lot of films made on Scottish and Irish themes have trad music performers in them, or providing tracks:

Brothers McMullen soundtrack was done by Seamus Egan and friends.

Capercaillie performs in the film 'Rob Roy' in addition to contributing to the soundtrack along with Davy Spillane, I think.

Bravehart had Chieftains didn't it?

And what about that Jodie Foster movie 'Nell'? Didn't that have trad music too?

I'll think of more later, I'm sure.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: GUEST,MurkeyChris
Date: 10 Nov 04 - 09:15 PM

I was thinking about the guy singing Spanish Ladies in Jaws too. If I remember correctly, the tune was also quoted in the score.

On a world music tip, Peter Gabriel does a brillaint soundtrack to Scorcese's 'The Last Temptation of Christ', full of world music samples and collaborations. The soundtrack CD is entitled 'Passion'. And Nusrat Fatah Ali Khan is on the Trent Reznor curated 'Natural Born Killers' soundtrack.

Richard Thompson did the soundtrack to a TV series called 'The Marksman' but sadly no film work yet!

Chris


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Nov 04 - 12:08 AM

Didnt Kirk Douglas sing...something, in 20.000 Leages Under the Sea.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Flash Company
Date: 11 Nov 04 - 10:18 AM

Kirk sang 'A Whale of a tale' which was made to look like a folk song, but wasn't.
I seem to remember 'Ox Driving song' and a snatch of 'Unfortunate Miss Bailey' in How the West was won.

FC

Ps Sorry about the snatch, quite unintentional
Fc


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: NH Dave
Date: 11 Nov 04 - 12:11 PM

The Quiet Man had Wild Colonial Boy, Rakes of Mallow, and another who's name I have forgotten but which was covered in another thread.

Dave


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Marje
Date: 11 Nov 04 - 01:38 PM

And don't forget the lower-deck music session in "Titanic" which, oddly enough, had exactly the same tunes you'd get in a present-day Irish session anywhere. Were there songs? I can't remember any.

Marje


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: GUEST,Claire
Date: 11 Nov 04 - 03:16 PM

Gangs of New York.... watch carefully and you even get to see a Maura O'Connell cameo appearance as she wonders down the street singing.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: shepherdlass
Date: 11 Nov 04 - 03:46 PM

A couple of crossover songs that might be of interest:

"Michael Collins" had a killer version of She Moved through the Fair from Sinead o'Connor.

Also, have vague recollections of a Loreena McKennitt song (though it might not have been traditional - could have been one of her self-penned ones) on one of the Highlander films.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: DougR
Date: 11 Nov 04 - 05:33 PM

I just saw an interesting film last night that Horton Foote adapted from a story by William Faulkner, "Tomorrow." It starred Robert DuVal and the soundtrack was totally based on trad music. It was set in Missippi in the early 1930's. A sad but excellent movie.

"So Dear to My Heart," made in the 1940s also had lots of folk songs on the soundtrack, including, I believe, "Laverder's Blue."

DougR


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: PoppaGator
Date: 12 Nov 04 - 10:29 AM

Here's a thread about the Irish song "Parting Glass" and two films in which it appears ("Waking Ned Devine" and the excellent but little-known "Evelyn"):

thread.cfm?threadid=52533#1093480


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: GUEST,Sharon G
Date: 12 Nov 04 - 01:27 PM

Not a folk song, but a fiddle tune.... War of the Worlds has a square dance scene with a band playing Mississippi Sawyer....


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: GUEST,Pete
Date: 12 Nov 04 - 01:32 PM

"Gangs of New York" has already been mentioned but if you're really quick you may also catch a verse of "New York Girls" being sung, I think, by one of the Fureys


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: GUEST,Barrie Roberts
Date: 12 Nov 04 - 04:07 PM

Ernest Gold (?) wrote the music for 'On the Beach' and created a set of variations on 'Waltzing Matilda'. Does anyone know of a current recording of his theme?


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Margret RoadKnight
Date: 12 Nov 04 - 06:12 PM

Negro Spirituals & African American Gospel songs often used.
Actor/ musician Theodore Bikel appeared with guitar in at least one of his movies.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Phil Cooper
Date: 12 Nov 04 - 08:19 PM

Outlaw Josey Wales has bits of Rose of Alabama and Sweet Betsy from Pike.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 01:27 PM

Ken Russell's "Lair of the White Worm" has an up-beat version of "The Lambton Worm"

Nigel


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: GUEST,eliza c
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 01:37 PM

Just watched Cold Mountain last night, noticing not just Riley B but the beautifuls Tim Eriksen and Dirk Powell making major contributions as well, not least teaching a load of actors how to sing shape note style. Good on them. Barry Dransfield crops up in some films too, can't remember which ones. I thought that "ain true love" thing with Alison Krauss was dreadful though.
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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 02:16 PM

Surely the most famous instance of folk song in the movies is Robert Shaw singing " Farewell and Adieu, You Sweet Spanish Ladies " in the blockbuster movie " Jaws ".


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Ima Gittin'
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 03:19 PM

Also the movie "Babe".......when farmer Hoggitt sang to Babe to make him eat....not even mention the xmas tunes...


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 03:33 PM

I loved Sinead's rendition of "She Moves Through the Fair" in Michael Collins. Excellent example of matching music to the film.

Another I thought of: "Bamboozled" the Spike Lee film. Now, all those songs, AFAIK, were written by contemporary musicians, but I thought they were a freakin' brilliant scathing satire of the minstrel tradition.

And jumping around in time a bit, didn't the film "How Green Was My Valley" have some traditional music in it? As I think back on the era of melodramas like that, I also think of "Ryan's Daughter" which had traditional music, though I can't recall if there was any traditional songs in it.

Also, thinking of John Ford films, there was the beautifully crafted "The Dead" which had mostly drawing room music, and I'm wracking my brain now to recall if it had any traditional music or singing in it.

I do wish imdb.com included information on the film soundtracks. Does anyone know of a website that pays serious attention to the art of film scoring AND includes a database of films and their soundtracks?


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 03:48 PM

I'm an idiot. "The Dead" was John Huston's brilliant last film. What was I thinking, comparing Ford to Huston?


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: *Laura*
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 05:20 PM

It's not actually a film, but in Thomas Hardy's 'Tess' there is a version of Lenady/Lemady (never quite sure which it is)


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Phil Cooper
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 06:00 PM

The Dead did have Frank Patterson singing a parlor type version of Lord Gregory/Mary on the wild Moor.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: GUEST,Nick
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 07:40 PM

The Shipping News Has several Great Big Sea Renditions of tunes, some must be folk/trad, but I forget which and they are quite a bit in the background during the diner scenes. There are probably more tunes in that movie that I don't recognise.

I have the feeling there must be some in the early part of "Coal Miners Daughter" ... musn't there?

Whack Fall The Day
Nick


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Nov 04 - 04:51 PM

I can't add very much that is specific, but presumably the film about Woody Guthrie starring David Carradine as Woody Guthrie (was it called "Bound for Glory"?) featured a few of Guthrie's songs.

Oh and I remember first hearing "Down in the Valley" on "Stir Crazy"), a comedy film set mainly in prison starring Gene Wilder and Richard Prior, in which the song was sung by one prisoner in the jail and joined in by others. Mind you it was several years before I discovered the name of the song (I thought it might be called "Birmingham Jail", and eventually recognised the tune on musical CD-ROM available from www.traditionalmusic.co.uk). I think I have heard it called Birmingham Jail.

Among the worst singing I have heard in films are (a) John Wayne singing "Streets of Laredo" (b) An actress (perhaps Shirley Jones, later of the Partridge Family?) singing a song to the tune of Greensleeves but to different words (the only bit I can remember, mercifully is "And build me a home in the meadow" or similar.

Come to think of it, it is remarkable how few folk songs, even on the more liberal interpretation, have been suggested so far as occurring in films. Either people's memory is poor, or as I suspect, relatively few folk songs have been used in films. Presumably as films cost millions to make, there is no point in saving a few hundred or thousand on royalties by using traditional and hence non-copyright material. I suppose it makes sense to pay someone to write an appropriate song or songs for the type of film, which may sound like a traditional song even if it is not.

I suppose one could extend the scope of this thread a little bit by listing folk songs or tunes used in TV or radio programs. One of my favourite TV programs (of the 1970s) was "When the Boat Comes In", a drama set mainly in the North-east of England from about the early 20th century (before the 1st world war) and ending at the Spanish Civil War (1936-39) with the death of the main character, Jack Ford (played by that very versatile actor, James Bolam). As you might expect, the theme song was "When the Boat Comes in", sung I think by Alex Glasgow.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Tannywheeler
Date: 20 Nov 04 - 05:05 PM

Guest, I remember a Greensleeves tune with the "...build me a home in the meadow" line in How The West Was Won -- Debbie Reynolds' character doing the singing.

Sometime in the 1930s or '40s Tyrone Power was in a movie about West Point Academy, with Maureen O'Hara. She sang a lullaby I had only heard done by Clancy Bros./Tommy Makem -- The October Winds. That is, I first heard it in the late '50s-early '60s by CB/TM, then, in the last 5 yrs ran into the movie on late-night tv and heard the song there.    Tw


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Nerd
Date: 20 Nov 04 - 06:54 PM

eliza,

actually, almost all of the Shape-note singing in Cold Mountain was done by Shape-note singers, not by the actors. In one scene you can vaguely hear some of the actors' real voices; they used a shotgun mic during the filming in Romania, and then mixed that into the sacred harp sings they recorded in Alabama, so you hear 1 actor and 65 Sacred harp singers in each shot! Tim told me he mostly taught them to look like they were singing it!

Of course, Tim was Brendan Gleeson's singing voice as well.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Lighter
Date: 20 Nov 04 - 07:01 PM

Mick Jagger sings "The Wild Colonial Boy" to TWO DIFFERENT TUNES in "Ned Kelly." It gave me new respect for the man.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Lighter
Date: 20 Nov 04 - 07:08 PM

Twas Capercaillie's Karen Matheson singing in "Braveheart."

Listen closely for a stanza of "Sally Brown" in the A&E movie "The Crossing."

And did you know that when the Confederate submarine snuck up on that Yankee ship during the Civil War, the crew could hear the Yankees singing "Fiddler's Green," an "old Irish" ditty that somebody's mom used to croon to him years before? You can watch it happen in TNT's "The Hunley" (1999).


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Nov 04 - 08:13 PM

Don't forget Simon & Garfunkel's Mrs. Robinson in "The Graduate".

                                                       Sol Zeller


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Guy Wolff
Date: 20 Nov 04 - 09:51 PM

I really loved the song " Back in the saddle again" as Tom Hanks dials the phone to try to get a date in Sleepless in Seattle. "Back in the saddle again" HUMM ... is country western if we are splitting hairs ... Lets see . How many times has Amazing Grace been song at a grave site in a movie ?? Thats not folk in a certain light either. .... Well no one has mentioned all the great work (is it Jon Tames ) did in the Sharps Rifles searies .. Wait thats not a movie ..Im really striking out here .
                I do think Rye Cooder's work in the Long Riders is masterful musicianship at its finast !!


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Guy Wolff
Date: 20 Nov 04 - 10:17 PM

I really loved the song " Back in the saddle again" as Tom Hanks dials the phone to try to get a date in Sleepless in Seattle. "Back in the saddle again" HUMM ... is country western if we are splitting hairs ... Lets see . How many times has Amazing Grace been song at a grave site in a movie ?? Thats not folk in a certain light either. .... Well no one has mentioned all the great work (is it Jon Tames ) did in the Sharps Rifles searies .. Wait thats not a movie ..Im really striking out here .
                I do think Rye Cooder's work in the Long Riders is masterful musicianship at its finast !!


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Guy Wolff
Date: 20 Nov 04 - 10:17 PM

How about "Long Black Vale " That must be in some movie ??? <><<>><> Ahhh "I gave my love an Apple" was in "Animal House" .I knew I would get one. They did break the guitar half way through but its in there !!
                Also there was a very good movie about the early years of the VietNAm era called "Dog Fight " That had a ton of early folk things. There must have been at least seven good ones in there all true folk songs. Ah redemption !! .
               Anything in "Last Of the Mohicans" ???
               Though this dose not count in one way , I think they showed how folk songs come about in the kids movie " Robin Hood" Making up songs as the story unfolds was a great lesson in how songs get written. . The guy that sang "Dang Me" , Roger Miller made them up . Very playfull .
        In its a Wonderful Life Jimmy Stewart sings to his Girl friend in the bushs . Is that one a folk song??
        I will go looking to get the answers to these inportant questions all . !!! All the best , guy


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Nerd
Date: 21 Nov 04 - 01:47 AM

Yes, Guy, Roger Miller as the singing minstrel/rooster is a highlight of that version of Robin Hood.

There are a couple of songs in the recent Master and Commander; one ballad is sung by the sailing master, several by the crew, one by the lieutenant with authority issues, and I'm pretty sure Jack himself gets a line of something in.

They also have a guy playing Uillean pipes aboard; VERY unlikely in that era aboard a British man o' war, but there you have it...that's Hollywood.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Nerd
Date: 21 Nov 04 - 02:14 AM

Breaker Morant has a brief sequence with a scotsman singing an old lament...

La Bamba has La Bamba, which is a folksong.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Splott Man
Date: 22 Nov 04 - 07:43 AM

The Fiddlers' Green that I know was written by John Connolly who is still very much about and performing


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Tracey Dragonsfriend
Date: 22 Nov 04 - 08:00 AM

Surprisingly, "Green Sally Up" is over the start of the new version of "Gone in 60 Seconds". A peculiar choice, but good...

Tracey Dragonsfriend
www.scorchpyro.co.uk


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: GUEST,Shane Thans
Date: 31 Jan 05 - 07:27 AM

Hiya!
I have been trying for some time now to loacte the original song from the movie "Stir Crazy", the song is "Birmingham Jail" and was sung by ? I have the original artist version (slim whitman) but am searching for the version sung in the movie,.
Any help would be apreciated!

Thanks in advance.
Shane


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Kaleea
Date: 01 Feb 05 - 03:27 AM

The older black & white films from Hollywood--especially the Westerns--are filled with American folk songs, from America & wherever American immigrants came from. Even before there were "soundtrack albums" for every   movie. The Musical Directors often used appropriate geographical folk Music for period movies which were not musicals. If you take note of the Musical Director for a particular movie in which you find lots of folk songs, you will likely find more folk Music in other films in which that person was Musical Director. Likewise some were composers & trying to get theirMusic, or the Music of some other composer, popularized.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Teresa
Date: 01 Feb 05 - 04:17 AM

Well, for me, it's not just a question of the music, but the context. I seem to really like John Sayles' movies. _Matewan_, _Secret of Roan Inish_, _Limbo_ (which has a wonderful rendition of "Dimming of the Day"; not traditional, but love that song).

Also, I loved _Salmonberries, with k.d. lang.

teresa


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Feb 05 - 05:12 AM

I know that members of The New Scorpion Band have contributed to many film scores - Tim Laycock's concertina playing features strongly in The Shipping News; Bob White plays pipes on Lord of the Rings and several of them were involved with the soundtrack for Gangs of New York. They also acted as the Casterbridge Town Band in the most recent version of Mayor of Casterbridge with Ciaran Hinds.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: GUEST,Bob Coltman
Date: 01 Feb 05 - 06:31 PM

"Shame and Scandal" ("Harlem Man") in Val Lewton's film (title escapes me: I Walked With a Zombie?). Sung by a pretty good, very serious singer, not the Duke of Iron...Lord Invader? Or just an actor?
Any number of Gene Autry films of course, with songs mostly in an early-country music vein.

I know more will come to me as soon as I send this off (perversity of memory).


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: GUEST,Bob Coltman
Date: 01 Feb 05 - 06:39 PM

"The Humour Is On Me Now" in Quiet Man. See discussion thread, which includes lyrics...though the song itself isn't in the archive.

Meanwhile, note "Alaska Mike's Songs in the Movies" thread. Bgolly the man is getting ready to add to the list!

Bob


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: rich-joy
Date: 02 Feb 05 - 04:58 AM

Does anyone have any inside knowledge about the 1967 "Far From the Madding Crowd" (Julie Christie et al) being released on DVD sometime????

I love Hardy's books and their movies - I can source the 1998 version of "FFTMC" on DVD easily enough, but hanker after that early version from my teenage years!!!


Anyone???


Cheers! R-J


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Weasel Books
Date: 02 Feb 05 - 05:04 AM

Black Hawk Down, the closing scene where they all sing the Minstrel Boy.
The Sharpe series of TV films use lots of folk songs, especially Over the Hills (Words tailored to fit the Peninsular War). John Tams played one of the main characters, so no surprises. In Rifles, Daragh O'Malley plays the Salamanca on a tin whistle, pretty sure the tune is later, but it's lovely.
Song Catcher was a lousy film, but great songs.
Didn't the McGann brothers film, the one in 1840s(?) Ireland, have some songs in it?
In the Name of the Father has Lizzy's Whiskey in the Jar.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Mar 06 - 11:35 PM

There's a few sets and songs in the newest addition to the Ned Kelly films- the one with heath Ledger and Orlando Bloom in it- There's one song in it, while they're all in the local pub, and I REALLY wish I could figure out what the name is!

I know it's pretty obvious, but the Ron Maxwell movies, Gettysburg and Gods and Generals both have tons of the irish and mid-nineteenth century American music in them. Paddy Moloney of the Chieftains plays pipes when Mullholland's Yankee irish lads face off with the Georgian irish Confederates at... i believe... Fredericksburg. David Kincaid is an absolutely awesome musician/singer/Civil War reenactor and he even has an appearance playing 'Bonnie Blue Flag' (the tune of which is the 'Irish Jaunting Car') as well as John Whelan (who does alot of work with David)

Last of the Mohicans mainly had that really repetetive fiddle thing... a nice little jig, but I think they should have had a few other themes throughout.

Thomasina has alot of trad music in it, too.

But yeah, if anyone knows what that song in "Ned Kelly" is, let me know? sligo_maid69th@yahoo.com

Thanks
Jamie


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: kytrad (Jean Ritchie)
Date: 27 Mar 06 - 06:24 PM

The girl's voice singing the songs in, "Far From the Madding Crowd" was that of Isla Cameron. Of Scottish extraction I think, but lived in London when we knew her in the 1950s.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: sciencegeek
Date: 27 Mar 06 - 07:50 PM

Speaking of the old black & white films, Spencer Tracy did some singing in the 1930's film "Captains Courageous".   I'll think of more around the middle of the night when I should be sleeping....LOL.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 27 Nov 06 - 08:13 PM

O.k., so it's not a feature film, but given the poor sound quality, it was fun to spot the tune popularized by Patrick Street in the background of this spot: Monkeys.

~ Becky in Tucson


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: The Walrus
Date: 28 Nov 06 - 06:32 AM

No one seems to have mentioned the version of "Garryowen" in Errol Flynn's "They Died With Their Boots On".

W


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: GUEST,Peter Taylor
Date: 28 Nov 06 - 07:53 AM

I am told that Clint Eastwood recites 'Sam Hall' in 'Two mules for Sister Sara', while the song was featured in the 1956 western 'Star in the Dust', in which Clint also appeared, as an unnamed ranch-hand.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: GUEST,Trubrit
Date: 28 Nov 06 - 10:35 PM

Not folk songs per se, but McCabe and Mrs. Miller had the most wonderful soundtrack of Leonard Cohen songs (sung by the man himself) - some of these songs might be now argued to have achieved folk status (Sisters of Mercy?)


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: number 6
Date: 28 Nov 06 - 11:07 PM

Ok ... not quite folk music ... but I think it's worth mentioning here in this thread ...

W.C. Handy's "Long Gone" in the movie The Defiant Ones.

biLL


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: GUEST,wolfie
Date: 29 Nov 06 - 11:06 AM

1969\movie -
The Thomas Crown Affair (original)
song:
The Circle Game
Artist:
Joni Mitchell

A luvly background sung to a glider (sailplane) that Steve McQueen is piloting.
Given his penchent for speed, danger and mobiles of all sorts, I'd say he actually is.
The tune is wonderfully descriptive of the motion of that plane.

But actually: My vote goes to:
1969 / Alice's Restaurant /
song:
Songs to Aging Children Come
artist: Joni again

The scene in the movie where the young confused somewhat druggie dude has somehow managed to self-destruct, and they are having a bit of a funereal spot of sober reflection o'er his remains, and a young somewhat anonymous woman sings a heartbreakingly fine and simple version of this song, accompanied by her own guitar, and astonishingly chilled by the outdoor post-Thanksgiving weather, complete with real snowflakes and frosted breath.

Here's a question for all beleivers...
Was there any actual died in the wool folk in the movie, "Grapes of Wrath" ? (the original - with Henry Fonda) - can't remember.
I would say if there were - this would probably be one of the earliest movies it shows up in, wouldn't you say?

cheers,


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Scoville
Date: 29 Nov 06 - 11:42 AM

Matewan is full of gospel songs (sung by Hazel Dickens, no less).


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: EBarnacle
Date: 29 Nov 06 - 12:25 PM

Amazing, No one has mentioned Shendoah yet. It is featured in Across the Wide Missouri and several other films.
One of my favorite pseudo folk songs occurs in Taras Bulba as a drinking song: We are the Cossacks.... The song makes the movie.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: tubeman
Date: 29 Nov 06 - 06:40 PM


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: tubeman
Date: 29 Nov 06 - 06:45 PM

What about the Mel Gibson film When We Were Soldiers Sergeant Mckenzie by Clann An Drumma


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Joe_F
Date: 29 Nov 06 - 08:47 PM

"I Know Where I'm Going" was sung, uninspiringly and pointlessly, in the movie of that name. The heroine of the movie could not have been less like the lady in the song.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: GUEST,Murray on Saltspring
Date: 30 Nov 06 - 06:42 PM

If I mind correctly, there's a great scene in "The Waking of Ned Devine" where a woman [real folk??] gives a good rendition of "Down by the Zoological Gardens".


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: GUEST,Murray on Saltspring
Date: 30 Nov 06 - 08:01 PM

- And who can forget the singing of Humphrey Bogart in "The African Queen"? - The song was "The Bold Fisherman", who sailed out of Pimlico; and the film ends with the couple swimming away singing the song. [Which is in the DT.]


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: GUEST,Northerner
Date: 01 Dec 06 - 11:30 AM

"I know where I'm going" in the film of the same name.   Surely there are also one or two songs in "Whisky Galore?"


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: GUEST,The HITMAN-SID
Date: 02 Dec 06 - 12:01 AM

Erland van Lidth song "Birmingham Jail" in the movie Stir Crazy. Although he died in a few years after that movie was released. He is the same guy that played "Dynamo" in the movie "The Running Man".


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: GUEST,The HITMAN-SID
Date: 02 Dec 06 - 12:11 AM

Erland van Lidth song "Birmingham Jail" in the movie Stir Crazy. Although he died in a few years after that movie was released. He is the same guy that played "Dynamo" in the movie "The Running Man".


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Ref
Date: 02 Dec 06 - 09:37 PM

That's Erland Von Lidth De Jude. He was an NCAA wrestling champ, an opera class singer and a character actor. As well as the roles mentioned above, he was the leader of the Fordham Baldies in The Wanderers.

This is a good list. Song Catcher was an awful movie with a good sound track. Cold Mountain was a HUGE letdown after O Brother (T-Bone Burnett did the music for both.) I love Sacred Harp, but it needs to be done by about sixteen good voices using some dynamic range. Hearing a bunch of not really talented choir members bellowing it kinda ruins the experience. Hearing Jack White sing trad songs through his nose (whether because it's more authentic or because that's how he always sings) is excruciating. His charm escapes me. Oops, I seem to have used up my snide quota for the day.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 03 Dec 06 - 12:24 PM

Just watched the German film "Schultze Gets the Blues" -- early in the film (when Schultze is retiring from working in the mines) he's serenaded with a salt mining folk song -- and I'd like t know more about it. Is it authentic? Where can I get a recording, words, etc.?

The last piece of music in the film is a brass band playing a tune that seems very familiar. It's similar to George Ward's river song (can't remember the title) about "if it doesn't lift your spirits it will leave you numb".

Anybody know anything about the soundtrack?

Linn


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Rusty Dobro
Date: 03 Dec 06 - 01:31 PM

Isn't that Swarbrick in the band playing for the 'harvest home' supper scene in 'Far From The Madding Crowd'?


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Splott Man
Date: 04 Dec 06 - 04:23 AM

Not just Swarb, but martin Carthy and the Yetties to boot.



100 BTW


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Dave'sWife
Date: 09 Oct 07 - 09:02 PM

greg stephens -said:
>>>Marlon Brando sang a snatch of "Long gone Lost John" in a film I've been trying to identify for years, and nobody remembers this except me, so if you could add the name of this film here I'd be eternally grateful.<<<

Is that the film that was the ill-advised prequel to The Innocents (AKA Turn of The Screw)? He plays Peter Quint and I think maybe Stephanie Beacham plays Miss Jessup?


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: The Doctor
Date: 10 Oct 07 - 05:30 AM

If it was it's called 'The Nightcomers',(1972). Further details on The Internet Movie Database, but no mention of a song.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Dave'sWife
Date: 11 Oct 07 - 08:40 PM

I think that might be the one. it's an odd film. It only has meaning if you have either read Turn of The Screw or have seen one of the adaptations. Quint as played by Brando is a sadistic gardemer carrying on with the governess. He takes a fair stab at an Irish accent and doesn't make too much of a fool of himself.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Oct 07 - 09:20 PM

In those cheapo westerns from Republic Studios, in the 1930's, Gene Autry sang any number of traditional songs including "Red River Valley" and "Yellow Rose of Texas". Roy Rogers sang in all his movies, too, but his numbers were from Tin Pan Alley.
Who can forget Dean Martin and Ricky Nelson singing "Get Along Home, Cindy" in Rio Bravo. Ricky played the guitar and Walter Brennan pretended to play the harmonica.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: topical tom
Date: 12 Oct 07 - 08:43 AM

Pete Seeger's song to Woody Guthrie in "Alice's Restaurant" but what was the song?(HELP SOMEONE!)


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: deadfrett
Date: 12 Oct 07 - 08:54 AM

Paul Newman ..in Cool Hand Luke playin Banjo and singin Plastic Jesus


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: GUEST,Sapper on the TRU North of Banbury
Date: 13 Oct 07 - 07:56 AM

Old John Mills film from 1952 I caught on Ch4 at the hotel on Thu afternoon, The Long Memory"? had a couple of lines of "As I walked out one may morning" as the closing credits came up.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: topical tom
Date: 13 Oct 07 - 05:17 PM

Pete Seeger's song in the movie "Alice's Restaurant"
was "Pastures of Plenty." Thanks, Google!


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 14 Oct 07 - 03:16 AM

Watching some cartoon thing yesterday (Watch my Chops???) about a dog who can talk (Corneel?), there was a snatch of folk music - I can't remember the tune but it's a session favourite with the words 'If I had a wife, the plague of me life, I'd tell you what I would do'.

Nice to see the little darlings being indocrinated through the strangest of media!

LTS


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: GUEST,MystMoonstruck aka Cyn
Date: 05 Aug 08 - 03:46 AM

Help! I can't find where to log in, so I'll just leap in.

In "The Sterile Cuckoo", a co-ed sings "Scarborough Fair" (or "Faire", as some have it) but gets interrupted at least once. She might be in more than one scene, trying to go about her folk-business in the midst of the troubles with Pookie and her guy.

Now, all of the songs I've heard in so many films have gone into hiding. It's too bad that these posts can't be edited since I'm sure I'll think of others as soon as I close.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: BK Lick
Date: 05 Aug 08 - 04:20 AM

Pete Seeger wrote "Old Devil Time" for the film "Tell Me You Love Me Junie Moon" in 1969 -- more info in this thread.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: GUEST,Timo_Tuokkola
Date: 05 Aug 08 - 04:23 AM

Can't think of any movies right now which haven't been mentioned, but I can say that the song in the pub in the Heath Ledger version of "Ned Kelley" is called "Moreton Bay". I'm pretty sure the lyrics are in the DT.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: GUEST, Sminky
Date: 05 Aug 08 - 05:25 AM

Roger Livesey sang Nut Brown Maiden in Powell and Pressburger's memorable "I Know Where I'm Going".


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Irene M
Date: 05 Aug 08 - 01:55 PM

Didn't Paul Brady do some soundtrack for "Eat The Peach"? God! I'd like to get my hands on a tape of that film!

Also, I remember Cilla Fisher and Artie Trezise coming back from a tour in the US, hysterical because they had come across a song called "I've got tears in my ears cos I'm lying on my bed crying over you". I suspected they might have been over-egging that pudding. Then, damn me, it is playing in the background of a bar scene in either Thelma & Louise or Sleepless In Seattle. Think it's the latter (where I also spotted Richard Farnsworth sitting at a bar, doing a bit as an extra).

Someone will now correct me......


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: GUEST,Warwick Slade
Date: 05 Aug 08 - 02:45 PM

I remember an old B&W film in the '60 called (i think) "I was happy here" The main song was Shoals of Herring by the Clancy Bros. First time I heard the song and thought it was great. How times have changed


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: eddie1
Date: 05 Aug 08 - 02:47 PM

There was a short British film about, surprisingly enough, a submarine captain which featured Cyril Tawney's "A-Cheering Of The Queen"
Cyril phoned Rosemary from my house to tell her I had seen it as support to a sword & sorcery blockbuster. Rosemary misheard and was convinced the main movie was called "Cohen The Barbarian"!

Eddie


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego
Date: 05 Aug 08 - 05:15 PM

Too many of the "folk" tunes I have heard from movie soundtracks sound contrived or over-arranged, or both. It's a delight when one comes through relatively unscathed. Jagger doing the "Wild Colonia Boy" was a fair example. Who remembers the old Glenn Ford epic, "Advance to the Rear?" It was a western (spoof?) in which some Randy Sparks material appeared. The one most people remember is "Today." Though it is not a folk song, it got a lot of air play.
There is a 1940's western in which Forrest Tucker appears as a good/bad guy. The picture wasn't particularly memorable, but his singing of "Skip to My Lou" was a surprise. The guy had a fair voice.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Jay777
Date: 06 Aug 08 - 06:57 AM

"Falling Slowly" from the film "Once" is a beautiful song. Not sure if it's strictly folk...


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Aug 08 - 09:03 AM

two sites I know of that go into some detail about soundtrack albums are
http://www.soundtrack.net/news/
http://www.moviemusic.com/


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Big Mick
Date: 06 Aug 08 - 09:27 AM

two sites I know of that go into some detail about soundtrack albums are
http://www.soundtrack.net/news/
http://www.moviemusic.com/


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego
Date: 06 Aug 08 - 04:26 PM

I believe that Gene Autry once did a western called "Tumbling Tumbleweeds," which was named after a song by Bob Nolan, of the Sons of the Pioneers. I believe he originally wrote it back in around 1936 or so, while working in Hollywood. I can't think of any other films actually named for songs written before the movies they appeared in were conceived.

By the way, for fans of old westerns who think of tumbleweeds as iconic symbols, they are actually Russian thistle. This is a plant which likely arrived here in the later 1800's mixed in with hard winter wheat imported by Mennonite farmers and others from europe. It breaks loose from its base connection after it dries. Being rounded, the wind easily moves it about, scattering its seeds as it bounces along. A very efficient method of propagation. This is why it has become so ubiquitous out west.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: quokka
Date: 07 Aug 08 - 12:00 PM

In the film Twelfth Night (1996) Ben Kinsgley sings 'The Wind and the Rain' (I think) - it's been a few years since I've seen it
Cheers,
Quokka


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: quokka
Date: 07 Aug 08 - 12:07 PM

Whoops I mean Ben Kingsley!


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: GUEST,Oigle
Date: 15 Nov 14 - 12:26 AM

Streets of Laredo sung by Dick Foote in the movie made in 1949


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 15 Nov 14 - 01:29 AM

'Going Down The Road Feeling Bad' was sung with guitar in Ford's The Grapes Of Wrath, & the air of 'Red River Valley' was a main soundtrack theme.

Westerns sometimes had traditional songs as part of the cabaret in the saloon sequences. I remember one in which the saloon songstresses sang 'A Railroader For Me', but forget which film it was. Anyone know?

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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 15 Nov 14 - 01:41 AM

The scores by Dimitri Tiomkin & Enrico Morricone for many westerns (& "spaghetti westerns"!) often contained quotations and riffs redolent of traditional cowboy songs.

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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Nov 14 - 04:31 AM

Music for a found harmonium in NAPOLEON dynamite


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 15 Nov 14 - 05:52 AM

... and Elmer Bernstein, esp in Magnificent Seven.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Airymouse
Date: 15 Nov 14 - 08:59 AM

Been a while since I saw "How Green was my Valley," but I think Paul Robeson sang the English version of the Welsh song, "All through the night." As they say in these here parts, "I might could be wrong."
I presume there is a special circle in Hell reserved for those who took away Robeson's livelihood and the beautiful voice God had intended us to hear.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: GUEST,Fred McCormick
Date: 15 Nov 14 - 10:39 AM

Yes. It's called McCarthy Cavern, and it's got the hottest furnace anywhere in hell.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: rich-joy
Date: 18 Sep 17 - 06:23 PM

Thought perhaps my recent post might be more, or as, suitable in this thread re movie music (which subject could probably be added to by now anyway!)


Subject: RE: ONCE - An Irish Movie/Musical about 'US'?on NPR
From: rich-joy - PM
Date: 16 Sep 17 - 02:26 AM

Just came across this YouTube clip of "Falling Slowly" (from the 2007 Irish film, "Once"), and fell in love with the song All Over Again!!

10 years on, and Glen [Hansard] & Marketa [Irglova] still move me, and, I believe it's still being sung in Folk Sessions/Clubs.....

ENJOY!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8mtXwtapX4
Cheers,
R-J


I don't know you
But I want you
All the more for that

Words fall through me
And always fool me
And I can't react

And games that never amount
To more than they're meant
Will play themselves out

Take this sinking boat and point it home
We've still got time
Raise your hopeful voice you have a choice
You'll make it now

Falling slowly
Eyes that know me
And I can't go back
Moods that take me
and erase me
And I'm painted black

You have suffered enough
And warred with yourself
It's time that you won


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: GUEST,Phil d'Conch
Date: 19 Sep 17 - 04:15 AM

The Tarriers (Erik Darling, Bob Carey, Alan Arkin line-up) sang the Haitian folk song Chaucoun (or Choucoune) and The Banana Boat Song in Calypso Heat Wave (1957.) Belafonte & Burgie were inspired apparently.

Lots of familiar, non-folkie faces there too. Maya Angelou in her modern calypso era with an original All That Happens in the Market Place.

And, it seems Janet Jackson still doesn't know her middle name is after Creole-American actress, comedian & singer Damita Jo DeBlanc, from Austin, Tejas no less. She (Damita Jo that is) sings Day Old Bread Canned Beans with and by Claude Trenier & Don Hill.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: GUEST,Phil d'Conch
Date: 19 Sep 17 - 04:18 AM

Island Woman from the Bahamian movie Calypso Island. Plus bits & pieces of most every other Bahamian tune & artist mentioned on Mudcat.

Lyr Add: Island Woman (calypso)
Calypso Island

Robert Duval and James Caan have a go at New River Train in The Killer Elite (1975.) Good thing they never quit their day jobs.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: rich-joy
Date: 19 Sep 17 - 09:35 AM

OUTLANDER, the recent series set mostly in Jacobite Scotland and devised from the very excellent tomes by Diana Gabaldon, has good music throughout that is at least folk-derived.
(and not to mention, it features lotsa men in kilts! :)

R-J


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: The Doctor
Date: 21 Sep 17 - 03:42 AM

I've just watched 'Their Finest'. Bill Nighy sings 'Wild Mountain Thyme'.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: FreddyHeadey
Date: 21 Sep 17 - 05:10 AM

thanks.
Bill Nighy sings 'Wild Mountain Thyme'.
https://youtu.be/J9JMquzDWF8


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: GUEST,GUEST, Doug (darkriver)
Date: 11 Mar 18 - 07:53 PM

In almost every John Ford western there's a scene of a burial, and the folk gathered 'round the grave sing "Shall we gather at the river"--or at least the part that goes "the beautiful, the beautiful river."


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: GUEST,Phil d'Conch
Date: 05 Apr 18 - 06:18 AM

I think prize for the earliest would go to Ford's The Iron Horse (1924) which has Drill, ye terriers written right into the script even though it's a "silent" film.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: GUEST,Jon Heslop
Date: 05 Apr 18 - 08:31 AM

In one scene in the newly released "Paddington 2" a musum curator is heard to be quietly whistling a few lines of the "Wild Rover" but I don't know if that counts.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 05 Apr 18 - 09:12 AM

Recently watched the film ' Fire Down Below ' Stephen Segal playing an environmental investigator, lots of good music and singers as well as Mr Seagal, Levon Helm, Harry Dean Stanton, Marty Stuart and over the closing titles John Prine singing his great song ' Paradise '

Dave H


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: GUEST,Gealt
Date: 05 Apr 18 - 10:42 AM

The Gentle Gunman (1952) starring John Mills & Dirk Bogarde.
I saw this film in a local cinema c1953, don't remember much about it except 'I've been a Mooonshiner' was on the soundtrack.

IMDb has some more information:
Soundtracks
Moonshiner
(uncredited)
Traditional
Arranged by Delia Murphy


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: GUEST,Judy G
Date: 06 Apr 18 - 06:41 AM

Do TV movies count?

The 1975 Moll Flanders, featuring Julia Foster had a soundtrack by Martin Carthy, and I remember Rosebud in June and Here's adieu to all judges and juries. Plenty more I cannot remember. It was lovely. Recorded it all on my Grundig reel to reel tape recorder.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Phil Cooper
Date: 08 Apr 18 - 09:05 AM

Barry Dransfield playing fiddle and singing The Water is Wide in the Bounty with Mel Gibson and Anthony Hopkins.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 10 Apr 18 - 11:41 AM

Ken Loach's "Black Jack" 1979 - music by Bob Pegg


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: Manitas_at_home
Date: 10 Apr 18 - 11:49 AM

Didn't Packie Byrne feature in that one?


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs In Movie Soundtracks
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 10 Apr 18 - 01:54 PM

Manitas - yes...

Black Jack


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