BS: Taking the Beef out of Boveril

Subject: RE: BS: Taking the Beef out of Boveril
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 23 Nov 04 - 01:18 PM

Have a look:

1 Elephant
10 Warthog
100 kilogram tomatoes
half ton potatoes
2 bags onions
100 kilogram salt
1 wheelbarrow onions (heaped)
10 liter vinegar
20 liter chutney
4 Guineafowl...

And that's the ingredients sorted out.

Subject: RE: BS: Taking the Beef out of Boveril
From: GUEST,CrazyEddie
Date: 23 Nov 04 - 09:01 AM

Traditional South African Recipes including Elephant Stew

Presumably the first two instructions are:
[1] First catch your elephant, &
[2] get a really big pot....

Subject: RE: BS: Taking the Beef out of Boveril
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 23 Nov 04 - 08:07 AM

I was thinking "There's always 'Oxo Spread'." - and then it occurred to me I hadn't seen that in a long time.   

It looks like that's been discontinued too - but not everywhere. Apparently they still have it in South Africa - Oxo Spread 125g - The South African Food Shop

And while I was about it, I found this site from South Africa with some quite remarkable Wacky Sarnies, from all over the world, including Oxo Spread and Syrup. Though that one is quite conventional compared to this one on that same site: My mother's favourite is mashed sardines on white bread, with condensed milk poured over! " (That's from California...)

That looks a pretty interesting site actually, called Funky Munky. It includes stuff on South African Myths and Legends, and Traditional South African Recipes (including Elephant Stew!)

Subject: RE: BS: Taking the Beef out of Boveril
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 23 Nov 04 - 06:26 AM

So sing together one and all
and raise a mug bovine
here's hoping we'll eat meat again
along the road of time

(with abject apologies to Dave Webber)

Subject: RE: BS: Taking the Beef out of Boveril
From: GUEST,Elfcall
Date: 23 Nov 04 - 06:08 AM

I had not caught up with the beef out of Bovril thing until I saw it here on Mudcat. However I bought a jar about a month ago and noticed the consistency was much 'firmer' more like Marmite than the usual 'go everywhere but the toast' Bovril. I wonder if this is the new Beefless Bovril !!

Elf

Subject: RE: BS: Taking the Beef out of Boveril
From: GUEST,Mingulay
Date: 22 Nov 04 - 06:41 AM

What's going to happen at footie matches now? The meat pie and mug of Bovril are traditional. How else are we to get food poisoning now? May as well turn to Vegemite, which is made from dead dingos dongers according to the taste.

Subject: RE: BS: Taking the Beef out of Boveril
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 22 Nov 04 - 05:58 AM

The old version had a jelly like consistency.

Subject: RE: BS: Taking the Beef out of Boveril
From: Tig
Date: 21 Nov 04 - 10:02 AM

The new version tastes slightly different from the old - despite attempts to make it the same.

Subject: RE: BS: Taking the Beef out of Boveril
From: Gurney
Date: 20 Nov 04 - 08:19 PM

Was there ever any beef in Bovril? Apart from the bull on the label? I thought it was always just yeast extract.
They just had to admit it because of Mad Cow Disease.

I may be immune to that, because of an old girlfriend....

Subject: RE: BS: Taking the Beef out of Boveril
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 20 Nov 04 - 08:05 PM

Well of course you can tell the difference between Bovril and Marmite, they taste completely different, Tig, even if they look the same. Or do you mean you've got the new version Bovril, and it does in fact taste different from the original?

Subject: RE: BS: Taking the Beef out of Boveril
From: Tig
Date: 20 Nov 04 - 05:13 PM

What I want to know is since it is now being made at Burton on Trent are they using up the old brewers yeast - the same as they make Marmite with? If so is Bovril now alcoholic??

Personally I spread my Bovril on bread - and I CAN tell the difference!

Subject: RE: BS: Taking the Beef out of Boveril
From: Dead Horse
Date: 20 Nov 04 - 02:53 AM

Aaah, the roast beef of old England.........

Subject: RE: BS: Taking the Beef out of Boveril
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 19 Nov 04 - 08:37 PM

Better not be. But I doubt it - the thing is, Bovril you mix up with water and make a drink, Marmite you spread on bread. Makes a rotten drink. There's an underlying logic to it...

Farewell to the beef that was once in our Bovril.
That we drank in the night for to cheer oursleves up
Now I wander distracted, for the beef's been extracted.
Farewell and adieu to the cow in a cup.

Subject: RE: BS: Taking the Beef out of Boveril
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 19 Nov 04 - 07:48 PM

Kevin - but the veggie Bovril might be with the jam?

Kitty

Subject: RE: BS: Taking the Beef out of Boveril
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 19 Nov 04 - 05:26 PM

Good.. it's the invention of the Devil, along with twiglets.

However, I love liquorice...... go figure

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Taking the Beef out of Boveril
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 19 Nov 04 - 03:55 PM

Fisherman's Friends come from Fleetwood, where they have the Fylde Folk Festival, and that's good enough for me.
........................................

As for Bovril going beef free, that's nothing to do with that universal Aunt Sally, "political correctness gone mad" - it's simply market forces. Since the Mad Cow Disease people just don't like to risk it - it may be unfair, but you tend to assume that "beef extract" will have been made out of all kinds of scraggy bits of cow you wouldn't fancy eating.

And the taste should continue to be markedly different from Marmite, because to gather they've done taste tests with the new Bvril, and people can't tell the difference from the original, which might look like Marmite, but don't taste the same at all.

Anyway, I'm sure it'll still be a case of "The Bovril's with the gravy".

Subject: RE: BS: Taking the Beef out of Boveril
From: Michael
Date: 19 Nov 04 - 01:50 PM

What has the EU got against sucking Fisherman's Friends? If neither the fishermen or their friends don't mind why should the EU?

Subject: RE: BS: Taking the Beef out of Boveril
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 19 Nov 04 - 11:54 AM

Aaaaaaah! You might not believe me Ted, but I'd missed that point completely! (LMAO!!)
S:0)

Subject: RE: BS: Taking the Beef out of Boveril
From: Dead Horse
Date: 19 Nov 04 - 11:42 AM

What about Cowslips?
.......and Horseradish?

Subject: RE: BS: Taking the Beef out of Boveril
From: GUEST,milk monitor
Date: 19 Nov 04 - 11:30 AM

Bovril, marmite and twiglets are all offensive and deserve to be banned. Closely followed by liqourice and fishermens friends. And all those other mediciney tasting offerings masquerading as confectionary.

It must be a taste bud thing, because if you find someone who likes one of the above, they are normally not too revulsed by the others either. But they are the right sort of person to share a box of chocs with, because they always like the creams.

Subject: RE: BS: Taking the Beef out of Boveril
From: The Beast of Farlington
Date: 19 Nov 04 - 09:52 AM

Yes, Ted - WE KNOW ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Taking the Beef out of Boveril
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 19 Nov 04 - 09:47 AM

No johnny, the whole point of smoking is to blow clouds of the stuff into the faces of non smokers.

Subject: RE: BS: Taking the Beef out of Boveril
From: Rapparee
Date: 19 Nov 04 - 09:46 AM

If a fisherman is out in his dinghy, pulling on the oars and casting his nets (or whatever it is one does in a dinghy) and s/he lights up a cig, can s/he be arrested for smoking in a public place?

Subject: RE: BS: Taking the Beef out of Boveril
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 19 Nov 04 - 09:37 AM

What about smoke-free cigarettes Ted? Would they work?? :0)

Subject: RE: BS: Taking the Beef out of Boveril
From: Sttaw Legend
Date: 19 Nov 04 - 09:36 AM

Apparently you can smoke both but not at the same time. That's pot and crabs not the fishermen. The European Parliament have banned sucking Fishermen's Friends.

Subject: RE: BS: Taking the Beef out of Boveril
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 19 Nov 04 - 09:35 AM

Very odd that it's OK to offend Christians, but not OK to offend non-Christians.

My own policy is to offend everybody, that way nobody can feel offended because I've omitted to offend them.

S:0)

Subject: RE: BS: Taking the Beef out of Boveril
From: Rapparee
Date: 19 Nov 04 - 09:29 AM

I want to know more about those fisherfolk who use pot and get crabs.

Subject: RE: BS: Taking the Beef out of Boveril
From: Sttaw Legend
Date: 19 Nov 04 - 09:01 AM

If a stick insect laid it's eggs in a jar of Bovril will it give birth to a litter of twiglets?

Subject: RE: BS: Taking the Beef out of Boveril
From: kendall
Date: 19 Nov 04 - 08:50 AM

Gift giving at this time of the year originated with the Romans. Just another stolen ritual that lives today.

Subject: RE: BS: Taking the Beef out of Boveril
From: Sttaw Legend
Date: 19 Nov 04 - 08:43 AM

What about the fishermen, they go out in boats with pots, and comes back with crabs.

Subject: RE: BS: Taking the Beef out of Boveril
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 19 Nov 04 - 08:31 AM

True, unless you are english.

Subject: RE: BS: Taking the Beef out of Boveril
From: GUEST,viglen
Date: 19 Nov 04 - 08:27 AM

They say Bovril will be made from yeast extract from now on - but wait a minute, isn't that Marmite? And as for Santa Clause - he's only very tentatively a Christian symbol if you think he's St Nicholas but I suspect he's been round since pre-Christian times in one form or another. I thought in our post millenium world we were supposed to celebrate diversity, not stifle it.

Subject: RE: BS: Taking the Beef out of Boveril
From: The Beast of Farlington
Date: 19 Nov 04 - 08:26 AM

Radio 4 should be banned next, Ted

Subject: RE: BS: Taking the Beef out of Boveril
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 19 Nov 04 - 08:16 AM

The PC brigade have taken over the world muppet. Just been listening to radio 4 and some council wants to ban efigies of Santa Claus, in case it offemds non christians! It all just leaves you speechless! Stand by for beef free beef!

Subject: BS: Taking the Beef out of Boveril
From: muppett
Date: 19 Nov 04 - 08:12 AM

Hay what do you think to that then