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Greatest Folksong Melodies

gargoyle 27 Nov 98 - 09:45 PM
26 Nov 98 - 11:11 PM
Art Thieme 26 Nov 98 - 10:09 PM
Ewan McV 25 Nov 98 - 05:42 PM
Emily 25 Nov 98 - 03:05 PM
Emily 25 Nov 98 - 03:03 PM
Barry Finn 24 Nov 98 - 03:44 PM
Songbob 23 Nov 98 - 04:12 PM
Barbara 21 Nov 98 - 05:38 PM
Jerry Friedman 21 Nov 98 - 03:39 PM
20 Nov 98 - 07:06 PM
Don Meixner 20 Nov 98 - 08:46 AM
Bruce O. 19 Nov 98 - 03:10 PM
Liam's Brother 19 Nov 98 - 02:53 PM
Alice 19 Nov 98 - 02:41 PM
AndyG 19 Nov 98 - 07:58 AM
John in Brisbane 19 Nov 98 - 03:12 AM
McMusic 19 Nov 98 - 02:28 AM
McMusic 19 Nov 98 - 02:27 AM
BSeed 19 Nov 98 - 02:25 AM
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McMusic 19 Nov 98 - 12:49 AM
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Subject: RE: Greatest Folksong Melodies
From: gargoyle
Date: 27 Nov 98 - 09:45 PM

Ah LIAM'S BRO!!!

Da ya not raliz tha wen ye post

Thae tha answer ak fo ye ghost

Ven ye publeasch, da tak from ye,

De proceeds a "intellectual propertee."

Follow BS thread on same


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Subject: RE: Greatest Folksong Melodies
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Date: 26 Nov 98 - 11:11 PM

So many wonderful songs! I too like Barbara Allen. Also Wild Mountain Thyme, The Ash Grove and Foggy Dew. For playing on my harp, though, The Christ Child's Lullaby wins hands down. It is so very simple, but always gets an emotional response. And other musicians always ask "What is that song? Whose arrangement?" I never have found words I like, though. It's just as well, no one wants to hear me sing!

Happy Thanksgiving -

Regards, Siobhan


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Subject: RE: Greatest Folksong Melodies
From: Art Thieme
Date: 26 Nov 98 - 10:09 PM

Joe Heaney's & Ewan MacColl's tune for "Morrissey And The Russian Sailor"---also used by me as the tune for W.N. Allen's tongue-in-cheek (maybe), but wonderful, song "THE SHANTY BOY ON THE BIG EAU CLAIR"---a grand lumbercamp ballad from Wisconsin about 1874.

Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: Greatest Folksong Melodies
From: Ewan McV
Date: 25 Nov 98 - 05:42 PM

I agree with Emily - once only, tho.


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Subject: RE: Greatest Folksong Melodies
From: Emily
Date: 25 Nov 98 - 03:05 PM

I wholeheartedly agree about Barbara Allen. Don't be ashamed to admit it !!!


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Subject: RE: Greatest Folksong Melodies
From: Emily
Date: 25 Nov 98 - 03:03 PM

I wholeheartedly agree about Barbara Allen. In fact, that's why I'm on this website in the first place......so that I could print the lyrics and give them to my son.


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Subject: RE: Greatest Folksong Melodies
From: Barry Finn
Date: 24 Nov 98 - 03:44 PM

songbob, been singing there 2 songs (Derwentwater's Farewell & Danny Deever) for over 15 years & never assocated that the tunes were common, (Duh). Thanks Barry


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Subject: RE: Greatest Folksong Melodies
From: Songbob
Date: 23 Nov 98 - 04:12 PM

Well, I'd like to nominate:

Clayton Boone (a cowboy version of "Gypsy Davy")
Rose of Allendale
Bonaparte's Retreat (the setting from the L of C that Copeland used)
Lord Derwentwater's Fairwell (to which Peter Bellamy set "Danny Deever")
and probably lots and lots of others.


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Subject: RE: Greatest Folksong Melodies
From: Barbara
Date: 21 Nov 98 - 05:38 PM

Dunbarton's Drums
Shallow Brown
Peggy Gordon
If we can name composed ones:
First Time Ever, Shoals of Herring, Sweet the Thames Flow Softly - Ewan McColl
Roseville Fair - Bill Staines
John Ball - Sydney Carter
(and a bunch already named)
Blessings,
Barbara


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Subject: RE: Greatest Folksong Melodies
From: Jerry Friedman
Date: 21 Nov 98 - 03:39 PM

Sorry, that was me.


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Subject: RE: Greatest Folksong Melodies
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Date: 20 Nov 98 - 07:06 PM

Along with a number that have already been mentioned, "To Celia", "Cape St. Mary's", "Poor Wayfaring Stranger", "Flow Gently, Sweet Afton", "Swing Low, Sweet Chariot" (a pattern?), "Adeste Fideles", and many others.

And also a version of "Turtledove"/"10,000 Miles" in a songbook my mother has. I thought I found the tune in the DT, but I can't any more. Maybe it's "He's Gone", the tune of which seems to be broken. The best part is something like

X: 1
T:Fare Thee Well
M:4/4
L:1/4
Q:1/4=100
K:F
z3C|FAA3/2G/2|F2z1F|Ac_e3/2d/2|c2z1F|Aced|cd/2c/2AF|F_DF2||

(Oh who will shoe your foot,/ And who will glove your hand,/ And who will kiss your red ruby lips while I'm away?)


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Subject: RE: Greatest Folksong Melodies
From: Don Meixner
Date: 20 Nov 98 - 08:46 AM

Andy,

Firstly, "Mountains of Mourne" is a song by Percy French of Cavan, Ireland and set to a tune called, "Bendermeer's Stream". French was incredibly prolific and wrote many songs that are presumed to be folksongs but are closer akin to musichall.

My top five:

" Tramps and Hawkers", "St. Clairs Defeat", "Jock O' Hazeldean" " Spainish is the Lovin' Tongue", " Red River Valley." and about forty or fifty others that are equally as important to me.

Don Meixner


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Subject: RE: Greatest Folksong Melodies
From: Bruce O.
Date: 19 Nov 98 - 03:10 PM

BSeed mentioned the only really memorable 16th century one. Of the 17th century one, I like "I'll never love thee more [Scottish Chevy Chase]", Stingo, or the Oil of Barley, or Cold and Raw" and "Lilliburlero". But for the 18th century, and later, it's hard to compile a list, there are so many good ones [thanks to publication of many Scots and Irish tunes].


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Subject: RE: Greatest Folksong Melodies
From: Liam's Brother
Date: 19 Nov 98 - 02:53 PM

Here are 5 I've been thinking about the last couple of days...

The Fisher Family LP (Topic 12T137) had a song sung by Archie Fisher on it, "For Our Lang Biding Here." It's very short, in broad Scots and is the only really old song I've ever heard about the stock market. The melody is very intriguing.

"Come A' Ye Tramps An' Hawkers" or "Paddy West" or "Peter Amberly" or "Come Me Little Son" or "Captain's Wedderburn's Courtship"

A current thread melody, "The Plains of Waterloo," beautiful Irish 2-strain (A and B part) melody.

"The Rigs of Rye"

"The Banks of the Nile"


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Subject: RE: Greatest Folksong Melodies
From: Alice
Date: 19 Nov 98 - 02:41 PM

Bard of Armagh (and all it's international cowboy cousins)

Mist Covered Mountains (the old one, 'soon shall I see them'),BR>

The Foggy Dew (I prefer the lovesong lyrics to the rebel ones, but *almost* any version can't hurt a good tune)

The Winter It Is Passed (Burns wrote these lyrics to the tune of The Lovesick Maid)

Shenandoah (and it's kin, which we have discussed)

.... too many to list!

alice in montana


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Subject: RE: Greatest Folksong Melodies
From: AndyG
Date: 19 Nov 98 - 07:58 AM

Barbara Allen
The Ripe and Bearded Barley
Bonny at Morn
Tam Lin
Otago / Somewhere in Otago ?
(and if anybody's got the words for this song I'd love to have a copy)

The Mountains of Mourne (is this a Folk Song ?) good tune though.

AndyG


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Subject: RE: Greatest Folksong Melodies
From: John in Brisbane
Date: 19 Nov 98 - 03:12 AM

I regret that I don't know many of the songs you mention. Ah yes, the DT would be a good place to start. Now, let's see...

Yellow on the broom - looks interesting, but no tune is listed.

Bonny Keel Laddie - no trace, maybe I need more info.

Castle of Dromore - surely there must be a tune, but alas no.

Flowers of Edin* - No sign of it at all, maybe it's some cunning Scots spelling of flo'ers.

Midnight on the Water - Nope.

Ashokan Farewell - I knew this tune was missing and have it on my list to do.

Blackberry Blossom - Not a clue to words or tune.

I didn't dare check Mr Greenhaus' submissions, I have no doubt they would be correct in every respect.

I remain sir, your humble and obedient servant John


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Subject: RE: Greatest Folksong Melodies
From: McMusic
Date: 19 Nov 98 - 02:28 AM

Or Wild Mountain Thyme?


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Subject: RE: Greatest Folksong Melodies
From: McMusic
Date: 19 Nov 98 - 02:27 AM

Or the Skye Boat Song? Aileen Aroon? Sheath and Knife? The Braes of Balqhidder?


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Subject: RE: Greatest Folksong Melodies
From: BSeed
Date: 19 Nov 98 - 02:25 AM

Oh, and Greensleeves. --seed


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Subject: RE: Greatest Folksong Melodies
From: BSeed
Date: 19 Nov 98 - 02:23 AM

How can we get this far into the thread without Londonderry Air? Also The Flowers of Edinburg, Shenandoah, Midnight on the Water, the neo-folk melody Ashokan Farewell, Blackberry Blossom... --seed


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Subject: RE: Greatest Folksong Melodies
From: McMusic
Date: 19 Nov 98 - 12:49 AM

.....and "Four Green Fields", "The Castle Of Dromore" and, and i'm not ashamed to admit it, "Barbara Allen".


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Subject: RE: Greatest Folksong Melodies
From: McMusic
Date: 19 Nov 98 - 12:45 AM

The Lakes Of Ponchertrain for me.


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Subject: RE: Greatest Folksong Melodies
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 18 Nov 98 - 06:10 PM

One way to pick the "greatest" is to see which have been used for the greatest number of different songs. Some nominations:
Villikens and his Dinah
Tramps and Hawkers
Star of the County Down
Rosin the Beau
Little Old Log Cabin in the Lane


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Subject: RE: Greatest Folksong Melodies
From: Bert
Date: 18 Nov 98 - 01:52 PM

Oh, the good ones have been so overworked.
Villikins and His Dinah
Botany Bay
Lincolnshire Poacher
Tom Pierce
and so on and so on.

Here are a few of others that I like.

"When the yellow's on the broom"
"Bonny Keel Laddie"
"Cornish Nightingale"
"Men of Harlech"

Like Bill D., I don't know when to stop. Bert.


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Subject: RE: Greatest Folksong Melodies
From: Bill D
Date: 18 Nov 98 - 01:19 PM

This is a trick question, right? After I get through with my 73 favorite Scottish melodies, the real list starts?

Like..."Jock O'Hazeldean".."Ned O'the Hill", "Ca' the Yowes tae the Knowes", "Broom o'the Cowdenknowes", "Leezie Lindsey"....*sigh*...

no, those are not in any particular order. I don't even know if they are my favorites...it would take weeks to decide...(maybe I'll add some more later..maybe even # 74+)


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Subject: RE: Greatest Folksong Melodies
From: Joe Offer
Date: 18 Nov 98 - 12:58 PM

Well, Dan, I really like the tune of Rakes of Mallow, but I don't particularly care for the lyrics. The database has one other song to the tune, Piping Tim/Tom. I like that one much better, but if anybody has other lyrics, please post them in the "Mallow" thread.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: Greatest Folksong Melodies
From: Liam's Brother
Date: 18 Nov 98 - 08:23 AM

Every so often a guy comes on the TV with a Boris Karloff voice and hawks 100 Greatest Moments in Classic Music. There are 2 versions. Version A is 10 CDs. Version B is 1 cassette tape. How they get 10 CDs on to 1 cassette tape, I'll never know!

Words aside, what are your Greatest Folksong Melodies?


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