Halloween/All Souls Eve Lyrics

Subject: RE: Halloween/All Souls Eve Lyrics
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Nov 07 - 11:03 PM

Hello, Sian - I happened across this thread with interest, as I am both Welsh and Cornish ancestry. I thought perhaps the tune your are looking for could by "Crugybar" - I know it as a Welsh hymn. I was going to try to find the music to see if the words fit the phrasing, but my books are all packed up in boxes, due to a major leak in the house.

I'll pass the hymn on to my mother, whose people were from Stithians, Cornwall. She will be quite pleased.

Regards,

Lesley
Kansas City

Subject: Lyr Add: HYMNA SYNS KERNOW / ... CORNISH SAINTS
From: sian, west wales
Date: 28 Oct 07 - 09:33 AM

Found the Cornish hymn when clearing out a handbag (yes - it happens sometimes).

HYMNA SYNS KERNOW - HYMN FOR THE CORNISH SAINTS

Dew an bys pan y'n dassevys,
'Ros y vap avel penmen,
Ha dre dus y lelyon,
Tempel dhodho y honen.

Pyran, Petrok, Pol, Wolvela,
Madern, Samson, Gwynwalo.

Sans yu oll an alsyow Kernow
Agan Syns may tyrksons-ya
Bysydhvenow hag alteryow,
Lorgh ha clogh, pregoth, pysy.

Pyran, Petrok, Pol, Wolvela,
Madern, Samson, Gwynwalo.

Otta'neglos ena fundyes
Agan syns enora gwren;
Cref yth ens, a fydhyans lenwys
Pell lafurya hep anken.

Pyran, Petrok, Pol, Wolvela,
Madern, Samson, Gwynwalo.

Tyr an Syns Ot aga whethel
Whath a jer Kernewyon dha,
Us yn ogas ynweth a bell
Dh'agan os aswonvos 'wra.

Pyran, Petrok, Pol, Wolvela,
Madern, Samson, Gwynwalo.

Bedhen lowen gans an syns-ma,
Dre ras a waynyas ken tyr,
Ny, gormelyn Dew, ow-cana
Ryp an Arluth y a vyr.

Pyran, Petrok, Pol, Wolvela,
Madern, Samson, Gwynwalo.

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

God who for the world's first framing,
Set his Son as corner-stone
Builds his temple, shinging, gleaming,
with the men he calls his own.

Pyran, Petrok, Pol, Wolvela,
Madern, Samson, Winwalow.

All these Cornish shores are Holy,
Here the saints in prayer did dwell,
Raising font and altar lowly
Preaching far with staff and bell.

Pyran, Petrok, Pol, Wolvela,
Madern, Samson, Winwalow.

Behold the church there founded,
Our saint let us honour now.
Strong they were, full of faith,
Working long without complaint.

Pyran, Petrok, Pol, Wolvela,
Madern, Samson, Winwalow.

Land of the saints, behold their story.
Still cheers good Cornish folk
Both near and far away,
To our time testifies. *Not in usual English version

Pyran, Petrok, Pol, Wolvela,
Madern, Samson, Winwalow.

So may we with saints rejoicing
Won by grace from every land,
Praises of our God still voicing
Round the Lord in glory stand.

Pyran, Petrok, Pol, Wolvela,
Madern, Samson, Winwalow.


The hymn-sheet they gave us doesn't say who wrote this, and it gives "Crugyer" as the tune. I remember thinking the tune was vaguely familiar but I can't find it either in the Cyberhymns or in general Googling.

By accident, we did end up finding the old St Madern chapel and holywell when we were in Cornwall. A real 'find'.


sian

Subject: Lyr Add: ANGAU / DEATH
From: sian, west wales
Date: 15 Oct 07 - 03:55 AM

Hey there, Nigel. That reminds me of a hymn that was sung at the Cornish service following the Gorseth Kernow ceremony this past September - it named the Cornish saints. I must have the word sheet here somewhere ... 'cause I never throw anything out. Can't put my hand on it though.

Just thought I'd throw the following into the pot. It's interesting on a couple of fronts, I think. It's one of those "O, Death" songs - which would make a great Hallowe'en/All Souls Eve collection in themselves. Also, it's an early version of "All Through the Night", the one most of us would have sung in school, but in a minor key. It was collected in 1911 by Mrs Herbert Lewis in Mold, N.E. Wales.

Angau (Death)

Ar ryw noswaith yn fy ngwely,
Ar hyd y nos yn ffaelu cysgu
Gan fod fy meddwl yn ddiamau
Yn cydfeddwl am fy siwrnai.

(One evening in my bed,
(Through the night, failing to sleep
(Because my mind was, without doubt,
(Brooding about my journey.

Galw am gawg a dw^r i 'molchi
Gan ddisgwyl hyn i fi sirioli,
Ond cyn rhoi deigryn ar fy ngruddiau
Ar fin y cawg mi welwn Angau.

(I called for a basin and water to wash
(Expecting that this would calm me.
(But before I could put a drop on my cheeks
(On the edge of the basin sat Death.

Mynd i'r eglwys i weddio
Gan dybio'n siwr na ddeuai yno,
Ond cyn i mi godi oddi ar fy ngliniau
Ar ben y fainc mi welwn Angau.

(I went to church to pray
(Thinking surely he wouldn't come there,
(But before I could get up from my knees
(At the end of the pew I saw Death.

Mynd i siambr clos i ymguddio
Gan dybio'n siwr na ddeuai yno,
Ond er cyn closied oedd y siambr
Angau ddaeth o dan y ddaear.

(I went to a locked room to hide
(Thinking sure he wouldn't come there,
(But even though the room was so tightly locked
(Death came in through from underground.

Mynd i'r mo^r a dechrau ymrwyfo
Gan dybio'n siwr na fedrai nofio;
Ond cyn cyrraedd dyfnion donnau
Angau oedd y capten llongau.

(I wend to the sea and began to row
(Thinking surely he couldn't swim;
(But before I could get as far as the deep sea
(Death was the capten of all ships.

Ffarwel ferched, ffarwel feibion,
Ffarwel holl ryganau gwyrddion;
Duw a faddau i mi 'meiau.
Mynd sydd raid i ganlyn Angau.

(Farewell lasses, farewell lads,
(Farewell to the evergreen songs of my youth;
(God forgive me my sins.
(Now I must go to follow Death.


sian

Subject: Lyr Add: HYMN FOR THE SAINTS OF WALES (T Rees)
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 14 Oct 07 - 08:11 PM

On the basis that there may not be a thread for 'All Saints', I append below a hymn for the Welsh saints written by a Welsh Bishop.
This is suited to All Saints Day for churches with a Welsh connection, or for St David's Day (1st March).

Hymn for the Saints of Wales
Bishop Timothy Rees (1874 – 1939) Bishop of Llandaff (1931- 1939)
Usual tune Blaenwern

Lord, who in thy perfect wisdom
Times and seasons dost arrange
Working out thy changeless purpose
In a world of ceaseless change:
Thou didst form our ancient nation
In remote barbaric days,
To unfold in it a purpose
To thy glory and thy praise.

To our shores, remote, benighted
Washed by distant western waves,
Tidings in thy love thou sentest
Tidings of the Cross that saves.
Men of courage strove and suffered
Here thy holy Church to plant;
Glorious in the roll of heroes
Shines the name of Dewi Sant.

Lord, we hold in veneration
All the saints our land has known.
Bishops, priests, confessors, martyrs,
Standing now around thy throne.
Dewi, Dyfrig, Deiniol, Teilo,
All the gallant saintly band.
Who, of old, by prayer and labour
Hallowed all our fatherland.

Still thine ancient purpose standeth
Every change and chance above:
Still thine ancient Church remaineth
Witness to thy changeless love.
Vision grant us, Lord, and courage
To fulfil thy work begun
In the Church and in the nation
Lord of Lords, thy will be done.



Pronunciation (approximate) of the Welsh Saints names
Dewi = "dare we" (but without sounding the 'r')
Dyfrig = "dove (bird) rig"        
Deiniol = "dine yol"
Teilo = "Tie low"

Subject: RE: Halloween/All Souls Eve Lyrics
From: mg
Date: 14 Oct 07 - 05:59 PM

The last Halloween in France by Violet Jacobs...she waits for the ghost ofher WWI soldier to visit her that night. mg

Subject: RE: Halloween/All Souls Eve Lyrics
From: Declan
Date: 14 Oct 07 - 04:20 PM

To be even more pedantic (with myself) that should probably be All Saints' Eve.

Subject: RE: Halloween/All Souls Eve Lyrics
From: Declan
Date: 14 Oct 07 - 04:17 PM

I hate to be pedantic (well maybe I enjoy it a little bit) but Halowe'en is All Saint's eve. All Souls day is 2nd November.

Probably a bit late to be quibbling over the title of an 11 year old thread.

Subject: RE: Halloween/All Souls Eve Lyrics
From: GUEST,mary o
Date: 14 Oct 07 - 04:06 PM

does anyone know rhe lyrics to the old halloween song that goes something like this? jack o'lantern burns his canle out on a windy night.....

Subject: RE: Halloween/All Souls Eve Lyrics
From: Martin Ryan
Date: 25 Oct 97 - 08:03 PM

" A soul a soul a soul-cake
Please good Missus a soul cake
An apple a pear a plum or a cherry
Or any good thing to make us merry.....

As in an old Watersons album.....

Regards

Subject: Lyr Add: FAITHFUL JOHNNY
From: Moira Cameron
Date: 24 Oct 97 - 11:34 PM

This one is in the DT. I learned it from my father. I don't exactly know if it is Celtic or not, but it mentions Hallowe'en.

FAITHFUL JOHNNY

When will you come again, my faithful Johnny?
When will you come again, my sweet and bonnie?
When the corn is gathered, when the leaves are withered,
I will come again, my sweet and bonnie; I will come again.

Then winter's winds will blow, my faithful Johnny.
Then winter's winds will blow, my sweet and bonnie.
Though the day be dark with drift, that I cannot see the light,
I will come again, my sweet and bonnie; I will come again.

Then will you meet me here, my faithful Johnny?
Then will you meet me here, my sweet and bonnie?
Though the night be Halloween, when the fearful sights are seen,
I will come again, my sweet and bonnie; I will come again.

(Repeat first verse.)

I'd definitely recommend Tamlin, which also specifically mentions the superstition about faeries and what not walking our world on Hallows Eve. Another good Child Ballad for this time of year in Young Benjie (# 86A in the Dover edition) I did a search for this one but couldn't find it. I'll post the lyrics in another message--they're long!

HTML line breaks added. --JoeClone, 24-Jun-02.

Subject: RE: Halloween/All Souls Eve Lyrics
From: Susan-Marie
Date: 22 Oct 97 - 08:48 AM

Lyrics to All Soul's Night were just posted to the other halloween songs thread.

Subject: RE: Halloween/All Souls Eve Lyrics
From: Joe Offer
Date: 21 Oct 97 - 06:09 PM

Subject: RE: Halloween/All Souls Eve Lyrics
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 10 Nov 96 - 12:01 PM

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Hi- We ALWAYS want the lyrics. If you post them here, everybody will have them

Subject: RE: Halloween/All Souls Eve Lyrics
From: Bob Schwarer
Date: 10 Nov 96 - 09:37 AM

Not specific to Halloween, but try "the Witch of the Westmerland"

Subject: RE: Halloween/All Souls Eve Lyrics
From:
Date: 09 Nov 96 - 09:59 PM

How about "All Soul's Night" by Loreena McKennitt ? If you'd like the lyrics please let me know ... via this thread ...

Regards,

Lynn

Subject: RE: Halloween/All Souls Eve Lyrics
From:
Date: 03 Nov 96 - 12:25 PM

Speaking of Halloween-related stuff, where did "Riddles Wisely Expounded" disappear to? It used to be in DT but isn't in this copy?

Subject: RE: Halloween/All Souls Eve Lyrics
From: Susan of DT
Date: 01 Nov 96 - 07:05 PM

In the DT, try Mrs. Ravoon and Griesely Bride, among the @ghost and @seasonal Dick mentioned above

Subject: RE: Halloween/All Souls Eve Lyrics
From: Susan
Date: 30 Oct 96 - 10:36 PM

How about Good old Tam Lin. It's a Child, so I'm assuming It's on here.

Subject: RE: Halloween/All Souls Eve Lyrics
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 29 Oct 96 - 08:58 PM

Tam Pierce is one; try looking for @ghost or @seasonal

Subject: RE: Halloween/All Souls Eve Lyrics
From: Alex
Date: 28 Oct 96 - 10:30 PM

Robert Burns poem "Halloween" mentions many of the old superstitions associated with Halloween. To my knowledge, it has never been set to music, though. Might be a challenge to mate it with an old tune.

Subject: Halloween/All Souls Eve Lyrics
From: dennis thompson
Date: 28 Oct 96 - 02:24 PM

Looking for celtic songs dealing with subject above. If you know where i can get a recording of the song, that helps. thanks.