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Folklore: Weaving music

GUEST,marie 15 Dec 04 - 01:59 PM
Geoff the Duck 15 Dec 04 - 02:17 PM
Bill D 15 Dec 04 - 02:35 PM
Once Famous 15 Dec 04 - 05:45 PM
mg 15 Dec 04 - 06:43 PM
open mike 15 Dec 04 - 07:35 PM
GUEST,Anne Croucher 15 Dec 04 - 08:31 PM
LadyJean 15 Dec 04 - 11:05 PM
open mike 16 Dec 04 - 03:08 AM
Malcolm Douglas 16 Dec 04 - 03:33 AM
padgett 16 Dec 04 - 07:47 AM
Scooby Doo 16 Dec 04 - 07:55 AM
Essex Girl 16 Dec 04 - 08:25 AM
jeffp 16 Dec 04 - 09:35 AM
Dave Hanson 16 Dec 04 - 10:06 AM
muppett 16 Dec 04 - 10:13 AM
GUEST 16 Dec 04 - 10:48 AM
mg 16 Dec 04 - 12:36 PM
George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca 16 Dec 04 - 05:08 PM
GUEST,David 08 Apr 11 - 04:16 PM
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Subject: Folklore: Weaving music
From: GUEST,marie
Date: 15 Dec 04 - 01:59 PM

I'm seeking any music, lyrics or music that is about the process of weaving. I'm a writer and my main character is a weaver.

I would like to add that element to my novel (working title Filigree)


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Weaving music
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 15 Dec 04 - 02:17 PM

Can I suggest that for a useful answer you need to specify some form of date and geographical location. You also need to let us know if we are talking hand weaving or Industrial Age factory sheds.
The culture and methods and type of weaving depend on a combination of local and historical factors. Also the type of yarn e.g. Cotton in Lancashire or Worsted weaving using Wool in Yorkshire. Tweed weaving in parts of Scotland or Ireland.
Quack!!
GtD.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Weaving music
From: Bill D
Date: 15 Dec 04 - 02:35 PM

search the Digital Tradition database at the top of the page for words like 'weaving' and 'loom'...there a bunch of songs.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Weaving music
From: Once Famous
Date: 15 Dec 04 - 05:45 PM

Get some records by The Weavers!


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Weaving music
From: mg
Date: 15 Dec 04 - 06:43 PM

Linda Allen wrote a great one about weaving and quilting, although the weaving refers to Native Amerian baskets.

I have a new one about Pendleton wool in Washougal Washington...if you are in the U.S. you know about Pendleton wool I am sure..but it is really great stuff to this day. (Warning, very sappy..)

My virgo rising c.d. has a great one by Anne Hills I think about the silk mills of Allentown.

Ten and nine of course..some of the best lines from any song anywhere.is that the same as the Jute mill song?.Carlton weavers...Arragon Mill...cotton Jenny by Gordon Lightfoot about spinning I guess...

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In Washougal town where woolens are made
A Pendleton weaver is my trade
There you were anchored and you were waylaid
I will weave this coat for you

As fast as my looms can push and pull
I'll weave you a coat out of Pendleton wool
My hands are thrifty my heart is full
I will weave this coat for you

Blue as dark as the evening sky
Red for the chokecherries growing nearby
Grey for the clouds that keep passing us by
I will weave this coat for you

As sunny and bright as the marigold
Strong as our promise to have and to hold
Warm as the sheep that are still in the fold
I will weave this coat for you

And if this coat should ever get torn
Lots of new lambs will surely be born
I'll patch you right up with the fleece I have shorn
I will weave this coat for you

And when you chug up and down the river
You will not freeze and you will not shiver
Know that our love will go on forever
I'll weave this coat for you..


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Weaving music
From: open mike
Date: 15 Dec 04 - 07:35 PM

Carla Sciaky has an album filled with songs about shearing,spinning and
weaving. Spin the Weaver's song see here for more info:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000005CR3/fa-20/104-0539912-3503902
and there is an old tune that we used to sing in girl scouts about spinnings... sarasponda, sarasponda, sarasponda ret set set.(repeat)
a dor-e-o a dor-e-boom-de-o a dor e boom de ret set set ah say pah say
oh
I think I have heard Margaret Christl do some similar songs, too.
http://www.mgl.ca/~jhcole/mc/mcDiscography.html
there isone here called the weaver.
aragon mills is about a town deserted by the closing of a mill.
Bread and Roses mentions weaving, and was sung about a mill strike.
i think there are some songsd times to co-incide with the passing of the shuttle...good luck and let us know what you find...is this a musical book? how do you iinsert a song in the test? are you looking for lyrics?


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Weaving music
From: GUEST,Anne Croucher
Date: 15 Dec 04 - 08:31 PM

I have
Hard times at the mill
Jute mill song (all for ten and nine)
Poverty knock
which are factory weaving, and also a couple about spinning, some factory, some by hand both wheel and spindle.

'Tarry wool' includes the whole sheep to cloth process.

These are all English sourced, so really you need to tell where your weaver lives and where he came from and what his parents did and where -

Anne


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Weaving music
From: LadyJean
Date: 15 Dec 04 - 11:05 PM

Work of the Weavers, of course.
There are some gaelic weaving songs from the Hebrides.
OH! YES! Confederate ladies, cut off from supplies by the blockade sang a song called "The Homespun Dress", about dresses made from cloth they had spun and woven themselves.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Weaving music
From: open mike
Date: 16 Dec 04 - 03:08 AM

there are some songs about waulking too...if you search the D.T.
i believe that is a process of treating wool...like felting it or some finishing process


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Weaving music
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 16 Dec 04 - 03:33 AM

Basically, thumping urine-soaked tweed. Only peripherally a part of the weaving process, and in a quite specific and limited context.

We really do need some specifics from Marie if we are to be helpful. As Geoff suggested, "who, what, where, when and why" would be a good start. A story about, for instance, a 19th century weaver wouldn't benefit much from 20th century songs.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Weaving music
From: padgett
Date: 16 Dec 04 - 07:47 AM

Believe it or not Linen Weaving was initially performed as a cottage industry in Barnsley around 1850
the house were built to allow looms in the cellars, with steps to the front room

Poor old weavers daughter has a line:

"Now my father he is old and nearly blind and he's scarcely (nearly) past his labours
It would break his heart for me to part for he's been such a good kind father" ~
this I believe is a reference to the fact that eye sight would be lost as as consequence of working in poor light in the winter, in wet and cold conditions to make a living, at the loom
Ray Padgett


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Weaving music
From: Scooby Doo
Date: 16 Dec 04 - 07:55 AM

Poverty ,poverty knock is one song i can recall about weaving


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Weaving music
From: Essex Girl
Date: 16 Dec 04 - 08:25 AM

Shift & Spin, The Doffing Mistress, Four Loom Weaver. There are lots of them


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Weaving music
From: jeffp
Date: 16 Dec 04 - 09:35 AM

The Twenty-Third of June


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Weaving music
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 16 Dec 04 - 10:06 AM

Try and get hold of Karl Dallas's book '100 Songs of Toil' dozens of good weaving songs in it.

eric


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Weaving music
From: muppett
Date: 16 Dec 04 - 10:13 AM

Wind the bobin up


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Weaving music
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Dec 04 - 10:48 AM

Weaving technology, with a big list of names of parts of the loom:

Bury New Loom.
Rude words


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Weaving music
From: mg
Date: 16 Dec 04 - 12:36 PM

is hard times at the mill same as cotton mill girls? mg


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Weaving music
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 16 Dec 04 - 05:08 PM

Marie, are you looking for songs ABOUT weaving, or songs which might have been sung WHILE weaving. Two different things.

Also as others have mentioned, what sort of time frame is this set in?

Are you specifically looking for something from England? Scotland? Ireland? Wales? the NEtherlands? France? Geographically it means a lot.

Waiting for your answers, Marie.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Weaving music
From: GUEST,David
Date: 08 Apr 11 - 04:16 PM

The song, "Nancy Whiskey", recorded many times, is mostly about whiskey but peripherally about weaving. "I am a weaver, a Carleton weaver; I am a rash and a roving blade; I will wander where I wish to; I will follow a roving trade."

And later, "i'm going back to the Carleton weaving; I'll really make those shuttles fly..."

My question for many years - what is Carleton weaving? And could one make a living as a roving weaver at some point?


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