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Subject: RE: Gibson J300 any info please
From: Amos
Date: 02 Oct 05 - 02:56 PM

No I don't; but the evidence they were made is documented in the excerpts given above by "Martin Gibson".

In the book "Gibson's Fabulous Flat Top Guitars: An Illustrated History & Guide" by Eldin Whitford, David Vinopral, & Dan Erlewine published in 1994 by GPI books, the only J300 model made by Gibson is described as follows:

"Two other models, both offshoots of the basic J-200 came out of the Kalamzoo factory in that decade. The J-250R produced from about 1970 to 1978, was a standard issue J-200, but with rosewodd back and sides.

As far as Epiphone goes, I have no information other than they were not part of the Gibson organization until they were purchased by Gibson in 1957.

The second model, the J-300 Artist, proved a more interesting variation, although it lasted only a year after it's introduction in 1970. This striking guitar, also with rosewood sides and back, differs visually with its delicate, fleurs-de-lis gracing outside of the bridge; the lower bout of the pickguard, and the peghead. Sadly, this J-200 upgrade sold too poorly to justify it's existance."


And by Cluin:

Gruhn's Guide to Vintage Guitars (published 1999), which I borrowed from the library today:

J-300 Artist:
17" wide
rosewood back and sides
J-200 bridge and pickguard
fleur-de-lis peghead inlay
Available: 1970-71


Sorry we don't have more to offer.

A


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Subject: RE: Gibson J300 any info please
From: Amos
Date: 02 Oct 05 - 03:10 PM

Burntstump:

There's a fellow named Cole Jackson says he owns one:

"Guitars, beer, and admiration
I'm a hack guitar player with cool guitars that real musicians would appreciate (deserve). My collection includes a pre-war Gibson J300, a 50's Gretsch New Yorker (my favorite) with the original Sam Ash receipt, an Anniversary Strat, and an old concert-size Epiphone Cortez that endures a beating, wrong notes, and the same old songs, without complaint. "


His web page is http://colejackson.tripod.com/Ross.htm.

Actually it is hard to figure out -- his name might be Ross and Cole might be his son. And their last name might be Griswald based on one of the pictures in their web site. And they seem to live currently in Singapore.

Best I could do, sorry.

A


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Subject: RE: Gibson J300 any info please
From: GUEST,Cole J.
Date: 02 Oct 05 - 10:51 PM

Yes, I had one. I went to Elderly Instruments in Lansing, Michigan and got a set of strings for it.

I thought that was a good trade!

C.J. (scroll down-----V)













C.J. a.k.a. Art Thieme ;-)


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Subject: RE: Gibson J300 any info please
From: GUEST,Art Thieme
Date: 02 Oct 05 - 11:05 PM

That was only a pretty good excuse for telling the joke! Sorry. (Maybe it was just the proverbial sorry excuse for a joke!!

One other thing:

If you remember that last scene in the film FARGO, we all thought they were caught "red handed" getting rid of the body in the wood chipper???

YES, they were getting rid of the body, but it was to cover the fact that they had also made wood chips out of the only J-300 ever in existence!!

And that's where the blood came from!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mystery solved.

Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: Gibson J300 any info please
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 03 Oct 05 - 09:59 AM

Yes, I have one! I found it under the driver's seat of the Ferrari Testarosa I bought back in April. Don't ask how the previous owner was able to stuff a J-sized Gibson under the seat of a Ferrari. I can tell you it was very difficult to get it out. I wouldn't have bothered except that it really hurt my ass when driving over speed bumps at 120 mph. It's in remarkably good shape except for those pesky holes from the crowbar.


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Subject: RE: Gibson J300 any info please
From: GUEST,Art Thieme
Date: 03 Oct 05 - 03:27 PM

You any Willie Nelson!!


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Subject: RE: Gibson J300 any info please
From: M.Ted
Date: 03 Oct 05 - 03:31 PM

The thing that kills me, Burntstump, is that Gibson and Gruen won't spill so you've decided to twist our arms--misplace priorities--perhaps this is why you haven't found what you're looking for--
If I were you, I'd see if I could find the guy who designed the thing--that would be the person who knows if any were made--


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Subject: RE: Gibson J300 any info please
From: John Hardly
Date: 03 Oct 05 - 04:27 PM

Nothing fits under the seat of a Ferrari Testarosa.

I you sure you didn't pull a Lloyd Loar F300 from beneath the seat? A mandolin would have to fit better.

...and those "crowbar holes" are usually referred to as "F holes".


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Subject: RE: Gibson J300 any info please
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 03 Oct 05 - 09:47 PM

Nope, John, the Loar was under the passenger seat of the Maseratti I bought after I got tired of the Testarosa. Getting a Lamborghini next week. Hoping there's a Super 400 under the seat of it.


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Subject: RE: Gibson J300 any info please
From: Mooh
Date: 03 Oct 05 - 09:59 PM

Bee-dub...Ya know the difference between a blonde and a Lamborghini, don't ya? Not everyone's been in a Lamborghini.

I gotta look under the seat of the Nissan, maybe there's a plywood Yamaha or something!

Peace, Mooh.


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Subject: RE: Gibson J300 any info please
From: John Hardly
Date: 03 Oct 05 - 10:06 PM

I just gotta see the storage capacity of the car under which you store your doghouse bass. Of course, I guess if you could get your doghouse bass to fit inside a mandolin case, it too could fit neatly under the seat of your Maseratti (and transfer the Loar to beneath the driver's seat) .


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Subject: RE: Gibson J300 any info please
From: Amos
Date: 03 Oct 05 - 10:21 PM

Burntstump:

Let me know of the web page turns into a good lead - it was legit, all yocks aside.

A


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Subject: RE: Gibson J300 any info please
From: Birdboy
Date: 10 Oct 05 - 07:10 PM

There is a former Gibson luthier who opened up his own guitar repair and restoration shop near Kalamazoo after Gibson moved south in the mid 80's. One time when I was visiting his shop in early 90's, he was working on a J300. I remember it did have the fleur-de-lis peghead inlay and it was quite striking so I asked him about it. Unfortunately I can't remember many specific details such as what wood the back @ sides were or what the fret markers were like. Some of the guitars he worked on were assembled by him from parts he got from the big Gibson moving auction. I'm not sure if the J300 he was working on was something he put together from parts or if it was a factory instrument in for repair. The guy's name is Pete Moreno and he still has his shop in a town called Oshtemo just south of Kalamazoo. Let me know if you would like his phone#.

Jason


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Subject: RE: Gibson J300 any info please
From: burntstump
Date: 27 Oct 05 - 04:29 AM

Hi Jason

Does this guy have a website or email address?

thanks Burntstump


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Subject: RE: Gibson J300 any info please
From: Birdboy
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 04:23 PM

I don't think he has a web site or email. If you do a web search for Moreno's Guitar Clinic it will give you his phone #.


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Subject: RE: Gibson J300 any info please
From: Wesley S
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 05:25 PM

Moreno's Guitar clinic
6667 Stadium Dr
Kalamazoo, MI 49009
(269) 372-1126


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Subject: RE: Gibson J300 any info please
From: Cluin
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 05:51 PM

There was one went down on the Titanic.

Another one got caught on the grassy knoll in Dallas back in November `63 and reduced to kindling by the Secret Service.

And one more got busted up by Garth Brooks at a concert in Wheeling, West VA in `91.

Since there were only 4 made, that means there's one more out there somewhere... probably up to no good.

burntstump is right to not let this go. Some day you'll all see that.


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Subject: RE: Gibson J300 any info please
From: burntstump
Date: 25 Nov 05 - 12:09 PM

Tried Moreno's no luck


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Subject: RE: Gibson J300 any info please
From: GUEST,Cluin
Date: 17 Aug 06 - 04:17 AM

Gibson SJ-300


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Subject: RE: Gibson J300 any info please
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Feb 08 - 05:55 PM

Contact Steve at Wildwood Guitars in Louisville Colorado....he had one on his web site for sale...J 300......he is a gibson dealer and is very good....

www.wildwoodguitars.com I believe

Tom


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Subject: RE: Gibson J300 any info please
From: Cluin
Date: 21 Feb 08 - 08:25 PM

1. Get yourself a bog-standard J-200 and a sharpie marker.

2. Mark a slash through the 2.

3. Write in a 3 above it.


TAH-fuckin-DAH!


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Subject: RE: Gibson J300 any info please
From: GUEST,Frank tennessee Hulse
Date: 29 Feb 08 - 07:59 AM

there is a Gibson SJ 300 Acoutic electric at about 4000


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Subject: RE: Gibson J300 any info please
From: GUEST,guest
Date: 01 Mar 08 - 07:52 AM

I only know the J200. It was exceptionally large with a sunburst,looked relatively new in the early 1960's Very fancy probably custom. The tone was not nearly as good as even a Martin D18.


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Subject: RE: Gibson J300 any info please
From: GUEST,aztom
Date: 26 Nov 08 - 12:05 PM

I own a J-300. Acoustic/electric, Indian rosewood back & sides, sitka spruce top, vintage sunburst finish, ebony fingerboard with abalone crown inlays, abalone dot inlays in pickguard as well. Beautifully made, sounds great. A divorce gift to myself.


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Subject: RE: Gibson J300 any info please
From: GUEST,Paul.Mel
Date: 27 Dec 08 - 03:50 PM

There were 40 J300's made in Early 2006. Prior to that run a one off J300 was made different to the rest in as much as it was made with a Flamed Maple Neck instead of the standard Mahogany neck, making it unique and the only one of it's kind in existence. How do I know this? Because I own that particular guitar, and very beautiful it is to.
If you look hard enough you can pick up a standard J300. Well worth the search, a fabulous sounding guitar.


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Subject: RE: Gibson J300 any info please
From: van lingle
Date: 28 Dec 08 - 07:17 AM

I played one in Bozeman out of the custom shop a few years back. It had a wagon train inlaid on it's pick guard, a cattle drive up it's neck and a locomotive on it's headstock all done in abalone, pearl and turquoise and pearl on just about every border, as I recall. It's top was adirondack, back and sides were cocobolo and it had a 50K price tag. It had a beautiful, loud and ringing tone that didn't bear much relationship to the early-60's log of a J-200 I used to own.


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Subject: RE: Gibson J300 any info please
From: GUEST,farmboy
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 08:59 PM

I was jamming with a fellow who claims his guitar was a J300 Gibson. This guitar had a double parallelogram as a inlay. It was much the same as my 1956 Country and Western Gibson neck. I did not look the guitar over in detail but the person that owned it bought it used in 1954.The guitar was an arch body style and was very good to play slap chords on, which it was supposedly designed for, thus the reason that he bought it. It had no electrics on it like the L 7 did but I do not know what year it was built. I will see him again, probably when he comes camping next year, as this year was the first time I had met him. The man that I met is almost 80 years old and I really have no reason to doubt him. He did play in his own band back in the 50's amd that is why he purchased the instrument. I will try to find out more information on this guitar if I can. This year was the first time I heard about a J300 and that is why I was checking it out on the net. I am not sure whether this helps or just confuses you more. I will try to fid out more info from him if I can.


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Subject: RE: Gibson J300 any info please
From: Luthier2b
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 10:29 PM

Farmboy; the guy that you jammed with probably had a Super 300 which is a far more common guitar.

-E


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Subject: RE: Gibson J300 any info please
From: burntstump
Date: 20 Jun 09 - 07:11 AM

It is interesting that no one seems to have any genuine knowledge of this guitar.

This previous posting on 27/12/08 indicates there is such a guitar out there, why is it I can't find one?

"If you look hard enough you can pick up a standard J300. Well worth the search, a fabulous sounding guitar."


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Subject: RE: Gibson J300 any info please
From: burntstump
Date: 18 Jul 09 - 09:45 AM

I have now been told only one J300 was ever made in the early 70s any comment?


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Subject: RE: Gibson J300 any info please
From: GUEST,Jimmy Jitters
Date: 28 Jul 09 - 11:52 PM

I've been looking for one of these since I was a kid in the mid 70s and saw a pic. I've been dealing vintage guitars for nearly 30 years and never seen one in the flesh. My guess is that there are less than five in existence.


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Subject: RE: Gibson J300 any info please
From: burntstump
Date: 12 Aug 09 - 06:21 AM

JJ

How can I contact you?


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Subject: RE: Gibson J300 any info please
From: GUEST,The Tone
Date: 18 Aug 09 - 11:41 PM

Yes I purchased the J300 about 6 months ago. It is exquisite eye candy, and sounds great thru my Genz Benz Shenandoah Acoustic guitar amp. Thank god for car accident settlements!


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Subject: RE: Gibson J300 any info please
From: burntstump
Date: 22 Aug 09 - 06:39 AM

Anyone know how to contact Jimmy Jitters? who posted on this thread the 28th July


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Subject: RE: Gibson J300 any info please
From: burntstump
Date: 24 Aug 09 - 02:59 AM

refresh


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Subject: RE: Gibson J300 any info please
From: burntstump
Date: 30 Aug 09 - 04:12 AM

refresh


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Subject: RE: Gibson J300 any info please
From: burntstump
Date: 28 Sep 09 - 12:09 PM

Anyone know how to contact Jimmy Jitters? who posted on this thread the 28th July


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Subject: RE: Gibson J300 any info please
From: M.Ted
Date: 29 Sep 09 - 12:35 AM

You don't let go, do you, Burnstump? Even though it's kind of annoying, it is admirable that you've been searching for this thing that may not even exist for nearly five years. I'd tend toward being a bit curious to know why this is so important to you--

Anyway, I don't exactly know Jimmy Jitters (which seems like a reference of some sort, and not the sort of thing someone would just grab out of the air) but it seems to me that there is a place called "Jimmy Jitter's Coffee Shop" in Monroeville,PA, on Route 22, a couple miles from the Pennsylvania Turnpike, in the strip Mall that has Michael's and Bed, Bath, and Beyond. It's odd, because it's not a chain or franchise, along a highway where almost everything else is. Good luck.


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Subject: RE: Gibson J300 any info please
From: GUEST,Nick Wroughton
Date: 16 Dec 10 - 02:22 PM

Didn't UK Presley-clone Cliff Richard own one?.Bought my first J200 in '72 in the UK(many Gibsons sold here in th' aulden deez virtually seconds??).It had to be sent back(many Gibsons of that era had strut glue that they seemingly aimed a radio frequency at.Result-union jack strut markings on the OUTSIDE of the top!!.Eventually got fed up of waiting for a replacement,accepted goods to the value(also faulty)and moved on to a Guild D55 with a neck like a banana(and far more unconcerned/gangsterish British wholesalers than Selmer ever knew how to be!).Also coalmining and later mental health nursing via sado-masochism,necrophilia,bestiality and equestrianism(soon gave the last four up-it was like flogging a dead horse!!).Did take on Westerly RI(Bad attitude!)over the Guild though,and eventually won out(an Indian sadly replacing a Brazilian re body).If Mudcatters are J45 fans,for Gawd's sake take luthier Rob Armstrong's advice and avoid some older ones with hollow PLASTIC bridges.A nice old J45/Epi Texan(25.5'' scale)copy went cheaply on UK Ebay recently.It was a Maya N45J identical to the one I gave my youngest nephew a few years ago(needed very minor bass-strut notching to free bottom E,but,all in all,a dead ringer for Phil Ochs' Gibson).I own 3 nicer J200s now outta Montana.Re the early 70's J200/250/300 chew on these observations;-double x bracing(ok does sound tight/Everlys 'Walk Right Back'-ish but it's 'wrassle the internal bridge plate'if you ever need to get it out!!.Necks were underset,bridges thin and bat-like.'B's as opposed to Boze--man.Only recently stumbled on site,so not a case of 'I've been keepin' my feathers dry for just such an...oops-must watch 'Walk the Line' again.All/best,Nick.


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Subject: RE: Gibson J300 any info please
From: ollaimh
Date: 16 Dec 10 - 09:41 PM

i recall seeing a j300 in a montreal store on st antoine back twenty ytears ago. the owner kept putting up the price just as i was getting close to buying so i forgot it. i was later told his 23oo bucks price was a deal. i don't know but i was told the j300 was in the j400 mould and very rare and thus very collectable. i just liked the look.it wasn't a bad player but no cannon. definately pre war but i can't remember what year and the store is now gone--i recently visited montreal and strolled st antoine. there are still a few music shops but the guy with the odd ball ethnic stuff on the corner is gone--too bad.
searching for a guitar for five years? i had a guild f20 stolen years ago and searched for a year and found it and the store who had it coughed it up when i started talking about getting the cops to come by--i suspect there were a few stolen things there. same shop had the only gurian zither i've ever seen.


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Subject: RE: Gibson J300 any info please
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Dec 11 - 01:46 AM

yes i have a j-300 custom 1997 awesum guitar elec acou


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Subject: RE: Gibson J300 any info please
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 09 Aug 12 - 04:23 PM

Didn't Pete Townsend smash one up at Woodstock?
(:-( D)=


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Subject: RE: Gibson J300 any info please
From: burntstump
Date: 04 Oct 12 - 12:35 PM

that explains why there are none around


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Subject: RE: Gibson J300 any info please
From: GUEST,shayleen
Date: 06 Jun 13 - 02:32 PM

There isn't a j300. There's a j200 and nothing above
.


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Subject: RE: Gibson J300 any info please
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Jun 13 - 04:28 PM

http://www.gbase.com/gear/gibson-j-300-rosewood-back-and-sid-2006-natur


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Subject: RE: Gibson J300 any info please
From: GUEST,gillymor
Date: 06 Jun 13 - 04:43 PM

That was me. You're right, Shaylene in that Gibson is now calling the 300 a J-200 Custom.


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Subject: RE: Gibson J300 any info please
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Jun 13 - 11:54 AM

Sorry you are all wrong, the J300 does exist exactly as described made in 1970 it should have been the next in line to the J200 but was a made to order model only, so it never went into production.

Gruhn thinks it may be a one off model which makes it very rare.

The newer version was just another version of the J200 and is nothing like the 1970 J300


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Subject: RE: Gibson J300 any info please
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Jan 14 - 07:11 AM

Just been reading a Gibson guitar forum that shows a picture of a J300 artiste circa 1970, I believe this is the guitar in question.
Looks a very interesting guitar and nothing like the J200 or J200 custom or the J300 circa 2003.

There are major differences to a J200 such as the fleur de lyse inlay on headstock, on the bridge either side of the saddle and on the scratch plate.
The Gibson logo on the headstock also states "The Gibson" a sign the instrument was not a standard issue.

Also interesting to read that Gruhn Guitars thinks it may be a one off prototype.

Curious to know how it sounds!


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Subject: RE: Gibson J300 any info please
From: GUEST,guest
Date: 01 Aug 14 - 07:49 AM

Surprising that there is so little information about such a striking instrument. Maybe just so rare there is no information.


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Subject: RE: Gibson J300 any info please
From: GUEST
Date: 31 May 15 - 05:46 AM

I remember seeing this guitar in 1970 at a trade show in Germany, it was a one off prototype for orders to be taken. Not sure what happened to it though I wish I had purchased it I expect it is now worth a small fortune.
The Selmer rep was a guy called John Smith who lived in London at that time.
What was striking was the matched spruce top with the fleur de lyse inlay on the scratch plate and head stock, if I remember it also had the same inlay on each side of the bridge. Stunning guitar.


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