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BS: Vasectomy or not?

dianavan 13 Jan 05 - 09:46 PM
michaelr 13 Jan 05 - 08:39 PM
Jim McLean 13 Jan 05 - 05:11 PM
Hand-Pulled Boy 13 Jan 05 - 02:55 PM
Liz the Squeak 13 Jan 05 - 01:40 PM
Little Hawk 12 Jan 05 - 03:18 PM
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Mr Red 11 Jan 05 - 04:06 PM
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GUEST,Dick and the swingers 11 Jan 05 - 12:04 PM
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Peace 10 Jan 05 - 04:56 PM
GUEST,Chongo Chimp 10 Jan 05 - 04:34 PM
Liz the Squeak 10 Jan 05 - 03:58 PM
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GUEST,Scoville 10 Jan 05 - 12:52 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Vasectomy or not?
From: dianavan
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 09:46 PM

Raptor -

It is a personal decision but don't forget to consult your wife. She might leave you if she changes her mind and decides she wants another child. The best advice I heard so far was to store some sperm - just in case.


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Subject: RE: BS: Vasectomy or not?
From: michaelr
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 08:39 PM

Guys: There is a vas deferens between having sex and fathering children.

Do what I did: convinve her to get her tubes tied.

Cheers,
Michael


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Subject: RE: BS: Vasectomy or not?
From: Jim McLean
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 05:11 PM

There's a joke there somewhere about a stop-cock.


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Subject: RE: BS: Vasectomy or not?
From: Hand-Pulled Boy
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 02:55 PM


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Subject: RE: BS: Vasectomy or not?
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 01:40 PM

I've just been told that I was using the pill incorrectly...











I was supposed to hold it between my knees!

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Vasectomy or not?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 03:18 PM

Only a few things are irreversible. Like stupidity.


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Subject: RE: BS: Vasectomy or not?
From: Hand-Pulled Boy
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 02:06 PM

Interfering with nature is a risky business. It ruined Hitler.


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Subject: RE: BS: Vasectomy or not?
From: GUEST,Bruce M. Baillie
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 11:50 AM

...I'd just like to mention vasectomy is not irreversible, I had one in 1983, ended up divorced, and had three operations to get mine in working fettle once more when my present wife and I got together.
I can honestly say now that when my second family was born I made a RIGHT BOLLOCK of it! (The left ones not working you see!)


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Subject: RE: BS: Vasectomy or not?
From: GUEST,Harmoni
Date: 11 Jan 05 - 06:14 PM

Both operations (vasectomy and tubal ligation) are reversible. With tubal ligation it depends on how the tubes are "tied"--if they're cauterized (like I had done) then it's much more difficult to get that procedure reversed because of the amount of scar tissue that develops as a result. If the tubes are stapled however, the procedure is easier; some scar tissue is present but far less than if they're cauterized.

Tubal ligation is also more complicated; general anesthetic, I couldn't walk down the hallway with out being helped for 2 days, was off work for 3 days and had a swollen abdomen for at least a week.

The upside of this however, is worry-free bedroom festivities with my beloved!

Complications are rare for both operations but of course...we always hear about the operations that went bad, right?

Do your research, go to a doctor that is well recommended, donate some sperm if there's a concern about fathering some youngins later on in life, but do what is right for YOU.


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Subject: RE: BS: Vasectomy or not?
From: Mr Red
Date: 11 Jan 05 - 04:06 PM

Liked the comment "he must be nuts" - yea and he will still have them for aesthetic purposes. All I can say is that it doesn't affect desire, ambition or pleasure. It takes a neurotic wife to do that and I would advise against one of them.

A friend tells me...............


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Subject: RE: BS: Vasectomy or not?
From: GUEST,Seaking
Date: 11 Jan 05 - 02:22 PM

And then there was the old one about the Irish woman who took two pills - to be sure,to be sure...


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Subject: RE: BS: Vasectomy or not?
From: GUEST,Dick and the swingers
Date: 11 Jan 05 - 12:04 PM

My mate used to work as a circumcisionist; but yesterday - whilst holding the scalpel he slipped - and got the sac.

He now does vasectomies for a living - he says it's ok - but he doesen't get the tips any more.

Sorry for all that Bo**ocks!


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Subject: RE: BS: Vasectomy or not?
From: JennieG
Date: 10 Jan 05 - 08:00 PM

My husband had a vasectomy after we had two children, and he was in his mid 30s at the time. The obstetrician/gynaecologist who delivered (he didn't really, he was a bit late) our second son said that although he could do a tubal ligation on me it was much quicker, easier and safer if my husband chose to have the procedure instead. So we did, it was early 1981 from memory. It never caused any problems with our sex life as far as I could tell!

Cheers
JennieG


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Subject: RE: BS: Vasectomy or not?
From: Peace
Date: 10 Jan 05 - 04:56 PM

They'd need a chainsaw to get that done.

(Jus' stickin' up fer ya, Raptor.)


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Subject: RE: BS: Vasectomy or not?
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 10 Jan 05 - 04:34 PM

Look, Raptor, just get the whole works cut off, and you'll have nothing to worry about ever again! Ook! Ook!

- Chongo


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Subject: RE: BS: Vasectomy or not?
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 10 Jan 05 - 03:58 PM

I hated using the pill... it kept falling out.

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Vasectomy or not?
From: GUEST,kate wilson
Date: 10 Jan 05 - 01:50 PM

The pill's a funny one - I was on it for a while, found it killed the sex drive stone dead and made me throw up in the mornings...

An in-law of mine has a story about one of the more unusual advantages to having a vasectomy - when some woman turns up on your doorstep with a baby she claims is your husband's, the pair of you get to laugh in her face...


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Subject: RE: BS: Vasectomy or not?
From: GUEST,Scoville
Date: 10 Jan 05 - 12:52 PM

H-P B: It shouldn't be. It doesn't involve any hormone-secreting apparatus (unlike castration, obviously), it just interrupts the pathway for sperm.

I never had any problems with the pill, either, but of course everyone is different. I would, however, like for the medical powers-that-be to decide if hormones are safe or not and get back to us all on that.


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Subject: RE: BS: Vasectomy or not?
From: Hand-Pulled Boy
Date: 10 Jan 05 - 11:15 AM

Is a man's lust reduced?


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Subject: RE: BS: Vasectomy or not?
From: Kim C
Date: 10 Jan 05 - 10:48 AM

I been on the pill for nearly all my adult life and never had a problem with it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Vasectomy or not?
From: Peace
Date: 10 Jan 05 - 12:31 AM

Some people seem to be likening the procedure--the severence of the vas deferens--to castration (the removal of the testes). No, no: different thing altogether. (The symptoms describe by Garg above in his 'little type' are those of someone who has had the testicles removed.)

Also, an ovar-hysterectomy is not a simple procedure. It is major surgery and it can be dangerous for the woman. There is risk of excessive bleeding; DVT (deep venous thrombosis--clot that breaks away and get's to the lungs causing a pulmonary embolism) after the operation; infection; accidental cuts that cause cronic discomfort after they heal; hazards associated with any general anesthetic.


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Subject: RE: BS: Vasectomy or not?
From: GUEST,Scoville
Date: 09 Jan 05 - 11:21 PM

I don't understand why GUEST is arguing so strenuously. Obviously, it's not for him/her. It might not be for me, either; I don't know, I'm not to the point in my life where I might want to decide. I certainly don't consider it mutilation (I find it hard to believe that it's really any harder on the body than ingesting hormones long-term or inserting foreign objects into the necessary orifices).

To each his or her own.


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Subject: RE: BS: Vasectomy or not?
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Jan 05 - 06:58 PM

thats good then ..
i'm glad you're glad..

sad you and your wife had such a bad experience with the coil
so recently..

releived MOST coil users dont.
and very happy that the coil has been the best choice for us
for the last decade

gets a bit confusing these GUEST to GUEST dialogues ??


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Subject: RE: BS: Vasectomy or not?
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Jan 05 - 06:41 PM

I'm SO glad that they've been improvred since 2002 when my wife was hospitalized 4 days with PID.


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Subject: RE: BS: Vasectomy or not?
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Jan 05 - 06:24 PM

QUOTE:
"would these be the same safe coils that gave my wife pelvic inflamatory disease and damn near killed her?"

most probably NOT..
most probably DEFINITELY NOT
this is 2005 now

QUOTE:
"yeah.. but for every unfortunate scare story about the coil..
how many satisfied users are there..????"

.. there are other sensible options available
than voluntary permanent surgical mutilation


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Subject: RE: BS: Vasectomy or not?
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 09 Jan 05 - 05:44 PM

Every method has its drawbacks.... every person has to make their own decisions. If you don't want to have children yet or again, then you need to make your own arrangements.

Discuss it with your partner and come to a mutually agreeable solution.

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Vasectomy or not?
From: Mr Red
Date: 09 Jan 05 - 05:34 PM

gargoyle

Where do you get your information from? It ain't automatically true. A guy who looses ambition looses that nervouse energy that burns the calories that piles on the fat. I think you have lost sight of the order of life. Chicken, egg or sperm? Ask most women and they will tell you the man comes first!


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Subject: RE: BS: Vasectomy or not?
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Jan 05 - 01:13 PM

would these be the same safe coils that gave my wife pelvic inflamatory disease and damn near killed her?


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Subject: RE: BS: Vasectomy or not?
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Jan 05 - 12:42 PM

so a lot to be said
for modern safe practical and convenient coils
then


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Subject: RE: BS: Vasectomy or not?
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 09 Jan 05 - 12:33 PM

"It is easier for the woman to have her tubes tied."

That has to come from a man!!!

And it definately didn't come from a surgeon!

Tubal ligation/severance always involves a general anaesthetic and usually an overnight stay in hospital. It takes several hours to perform, and is not reversable. It has a recovery period considerably longer than a vasectomy, is considered major surgery and is not even remotely funny. You cannot get up and walk home, in fact, you can barely walk after 2 days. Then there's the 6 week wait to see if anything else has been affected by mistake, whilst refraining from any sexual activity (although, if you're anything like me, it's so tender and bruised, even wearing knickers hurts) until it's all checked out.

Been there, done that, got the scars (3 of them) to prove it. There was even a suspicion of a fist mark on my chest......

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Vasectomy or not?
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 09 Jan 05 - 11:17 AM

2B(alls) or not 2B(alls), That is the question


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Subject: RE: BS: Vasectomy or not?
From: Louie Roy
Date: 09 Jan 05 - 12:28 AM

It's the greatst thing since sex was invented by Adam and Eve.After 7 years of being married and 5 kids something had to be done so in 1953 I went to the doctor in this small town in Idaho who was also the Druggist and he performed the operation in the back of the drug store and the cost was $25.00 and since that time my wife and especially my wife of 59 years have had the greatest sex life anyone could have so all I can go for it


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Subject: RE: BS: Vasectomy or not?
From: GUEST,Heroin is a killer.
Date: 09 Jan 05 - 12:15 AM

Think about that.


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Subject: RE: BS: Vasectomy or not?
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 09 Jan 05 - 12:06 AM

It is easier for the woman to have her tubes tied.



The bottom line of vasectomy - is she wants you fixed - she does not trust you and she does not want any more children popping up with you are the poppa somewhere else.



It is an issue of TRUST....whe does trust where your sperm may go.




Sincerely,

Gargoyle




Have you ever observed the men after they have been "fixed" they loose ambition, they gain weight, they become more "womanly" - a lady that wants he lover to have a vasectomy is a lesbian in house-mom's clothing - nobody wants to marry their mother!~


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Subject: RE: BS: Vasectomy or not?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Jan 05 - 03:39 PM

Oh my GOSH! A...a free RADIO! Who could resist an offer like that? :-)

(from one who almost never willingly listens to the radio...)


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Subject: RE: BS: Vasectomy or not?
From: annamill
Date: 08 Jan 05 - 03:27 PM

When my son was around 17 yrs old, he swore up and down that he would 1)Never marry. 2) Never, never have children.

People were always saying to him "Don't worry James, someday you'll come to your senses and you want a wife and kids just like everybody else."

One day he comes to me, quite seriously, and tells me he wants to get a vasectomy! I told him he was nuts! First, no doctor would give a 17 yr old a vasectomy, Second, no way I'd allow it.

I asked him why, for goodness sake, he would even consider such a thing!

He said he wanted it before he came to his senses!

BTW, he's married and considering a little rug rat now. Tee Hee! He came to his senses after all.

Love, Annamill


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Subject: RE: BS: Vasectomy or not?
From: jacqui.c
Date: 07 Jan 05 - 10:12 PM

My brother had this operation many moons ago, when he was still in the army.

It was done in London, at a private clinic and, after resting for an hour he got on his motor bike and rode back to his unit - in Germany. He reckoned he was a bit sore for a while after. Eighteen months later he contracted mumps....

Good on you guys if you go for this. My ex went so deathly pale when it was suggested, once we decided not to have more children, that I ended up having the tubes cut instead.


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Subject: RE: BS: Vasectomy or not?
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 07 Jan 05 - 09:03 PM

If you want the procedure, and feel that sometime down the line you might change your mind abour fathering kids, just hsve some sperm stored
before they snip. No huge deal.


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Subject: RE: BS: Vasectomy or not?
From: Mr Red
Date: 07 Jan 05 - 06:50 PM

Anaesthetic or no, it'll make yer toes curl. It is reversible - if you accept that the odds for success lengthen as the years pass - think 10% after 10 years. Think permanence and you will be on the right track.

And another snippet.......

the farmer who had a vasechtomy - now has two more acres.......

ducks and crosses legs...............


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Subject: RE: BS: Vasectomy or not?
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 07 Jan 05 - 05:33 PM

So hands up everyone who read this without crossing their legs?!

The girly view on this - if children are not wanted, it's the safest form of contraception. Funny though.... as soon as you think you'll never have the possibility of doing something, the desire to do it can take over your life.

They are safe, there are reversal options. In India you can get a free radio for having one.

And I'd agree, the 'Martini' clause has a lot to offer. BUT a vasectomy is not going to protect you from STDs so take your Martini with caution.

LTS

(Martini, any time, any place ,anywhere.....)


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Subject: RE: BS: Vasectomy or not?
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Jan 05 - 05:11 PM

Puts a whole new meaning on DIY


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Subject: RE: BS: Vasectomy or not?
From: Hand-Pulled Boy
Date: 07 Jan 05 - 04:14 PM

I hate kids and once I got a Black and Decker workmate I was able to do the job myself.


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Subject: RE: BS: Vasectomy or not?
From: DougR
Date: 07 Jan 05 - 01:54 PM

No problem with mine, almost forty four years ago after third child.

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: Vasectomy or not?
From: gnu
Date: 07 Jan 05 - 01:51 PM

Knot.


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Subject: RE: BS: Vasectomy or not?
From: GUEST,MC Fat
Date: 07 Jan 05 - 01:29 PM

I had mine done a good few years ago no probs except walking like John wayne coming off from a horse for a few days. Believe you can have a needle in the knackers to get some live boys you don't need to have a reversal


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Subject: RE: BS: Vasectomy or not?
From: Gypsy
Date: 06 Jan 05 - 10:30 PM

One phrase for you, gentlemen........anywhere, anytime, and anyhow. Probably the greatest aphrodisiac of all!


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Subject: RE: BS: Vasectomy or not?
From: Mooh
Date: 06 Jan 05 - 10:21 PM

Reversal? They fuckin' near killed me the first time I let them near my privates with a knife! I'd adopt.

Peace, Mooh.


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Subject: RE: BS: Vasectomy or not?
From: freda underhill
Date: 06 Jan 05 - 04:24 PM

i have a friend who had a vasectomy reversal, and has since fathered a child. if you put vasectomy reversal into google, there are a heap of sites. here is just one..


vasectomy reversal info


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Subject: RE: BS: Vasectomy or not?
From: Cluin
Date: 06 Jan 05 - 04:12 PM

You come near my junk with any kind of blade now, I better be comatose, Doc.


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Subject: RE: BS: Vasectomy or not?
From: artbrooks
Date: 06 Jan 05 - 04:11 PM

I had mine some months after our second child was born...and then had it again a few months later when tests showed that I still had live ones swimming around in there.


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