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Another UK Licensing Matter arising

Blowzabella 07 Jan 05 - 07:38 PM
Nigel Parsons 08 Jan 05 - 03:33 PM
GUEST,Pete 08 Jan 05 - 05:41 PM
McGrath of Harlow 09 Jan 05 - 01:00 PM
Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 17 Jan 05 - 05:10 AM
The Fooles Troupe 17 Jan 05 - 08:25 AM
GUEST,ET 17 Jan 05 - 04:18 PM
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Subject: Another UK Licensing Matter arising
From: Blowzabella
Date: 07 Jan 05 - 07:38 PM

There has been much discussed recently about the changes in the new Licensing Act and how it will affect clubs and sessions, but I have also seen info about proposed charges relating to larger events, which might well impact on festivals. I can't remember the exact details, but for events which will attract less than 6,000 people, I think the proposed charge is around the £200 mark, however for over that figure, it starts at (I think) £5,000 for 6,000+ people, and goes up in chunks from there. It is in the DCMS consultation papers - something like chapter 7, para 33. (page 34 of the report)

http://www.culture.gov.uk/NR/rdonlyres/e53qdzkcvg5kizk457n6btlfaswaq7yimclfboxulgf6gyhhwvztdsiu4sci7f2lkkcyrf2t5lvi7dkihsukfqt7gke/CONSULTATIONDOCFEESfinalversion.pdf

If it comes in it will likely apply to apply to free events as well as ticketed.

The official consultation period ended (unsurprisingly) before I got a chance to read this! Colleagues at work are making some representations via bodies like British Resorts Association etc.

Be interesting to hear from Catters which events they know of that would be affected by this, if it came in, and the affect they would imagine it would have. I know there are one or two shrewd legal brains out there too, and their comments would, I'm sure, be good to have.

Blowz


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Subject: RE: Another UK Licensing Matter arising
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 08 Jan 05 - 03:33 PM

£200- for <6000 people, £5000- for >6000.

Dear sir I am planning on holding two concurrent music festivals, each of which should attract somewhere in excess of 3000 people. Herewith my cheque for £400-

OK, facetious I know, but "The law is... an ass"

Nigel


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Subject: RE: Another UK Licensing Matter arising
From: GUEST,Pete
Date: 08 Jan 05 - 05:41 PM

You have to hand it to the DCMS.

Coming on top of the 'Two-in-a-Bar' issue, they sure know how to make friends.

The consultation paper is out for discussion. I believe Steve Heap and the Association of Festival Organisers are responding as are many others.

See also the eFestivals website for more info. on this issue.


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Subject: RE: Another UK Licensing Matter arising
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 09 Jan 05 - 01:00 PM

Will they give refunds if the crowd stays away?   And who gets to do the counting with free events? What if more people turn up than antcipated?

This sounds a dogs dinner of legislation.

Will there be exemptions for political rallies? Or pilgrimages?

"Please don't come to this event - we can't afford it..."


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Subject: RE: Another UK Licensing Matter arising
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 17 Jan 05 - 05:10 AM


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Subject: RE: Another UK Licensing Matter arising
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 17 Jan 05 - 08:25 AM

Sounds like a song in this one...

"Please don't come to our free event - we can't afford it..."

:-)


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Subject: RE: Another UK Licensing Matter arising
From: GUEST,ET
Date: 17 Jan 05 - 04:18 PM

The Act and its implementation is a shambles. Even now they have not given the second commencement date and there is confusion over guidance which has no reference in the act itself.

As to fees, Tessa "Bundle of Fun" Jowell said the other day that they were having another look at fees and local authorities (and therefore nobody else) would be pleased with the results! This is because of fears over policing 24 hour drinking.

There are other festival issues. The guidasnce advises local authorities to take out pre existing licences over village greens etc. Some hope. And licences for festivals can only last for 96 hours (4 days).

A real mess.


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