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Subject: RE: Tech: Problems with Mudcat? From: GUEST Date: 12 Jan 05 - 04:09 AM happened again 9.00am UK time. Are we overloading from work? |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Problems with Mudcat? From: GUEST Date: 12 Jan 05 - 05:12 AM 7.45pm here in Oz when it crashed. There does seem to be a pattern. For us, it is happening in the evening, just when we want to be looking. Then it seems to come back on very late, when most of us have gone to bed (except for me sometimes because I'm a night-owl). Oh well, at least the numbers are working. Buddy isn't. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Problems with Mudcat? From: GUEST,JennyO Date: 12 Jan 05 - 05:13 AM That was me at 5.12am. Not used to being a GUEST. Jenny |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Problems with Mudcat? From: GUEST,Sandra in Sydney Date: 12 Jan 05 - 06:33 AM here on 207.103.108.99 (or Mudcat forum as my bookmark calls it) we are Guests, tho I suppose logging-in would solve the problem. Maybe I'll log in @ work tomorrow to see what happens. Better make sure I email myself all the mudcat addresses so I can get to Mudcat. sandra |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Problems with Mudcat? From: GUEST Date: 12 Jan 05 - 06:48 AM Has anyone talked to Max? |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Problems with Mudcat? From: GUEST,sandra Date: 12 Jan 05 - 07:16 AM Joe has spoken to Max - from what I remember Max is reading the manuals of the new stuff (hardware?? software??) he bought recently. You could search on Joe's posts to find the relevent threads/s sandra |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Problems with Mudcat? From: GUEST Date: 12 Jan 05 - 07:19 AM Yes, I spoke with Max a couple days ago. Here (in a related thread) is what I learned. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Problems with Mudcat? From: GUEST,JennyO Date: 12 Jan 05 - 07:48 AM Sandra, I think you'll find that you can't log in on this one. Nothing on the drop down menu works without some altering. And even if you did manage to get to the login page with some tweaking, you can't take your cookie with you. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Problems with Mudcat? From: GUEST,sandra Date: 12 Jan 05 - 08:24 AM hello, Joe |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Problems with Mudcat? From: GUEST Date: 12 Jan 05 - 09:46 AM Is it possible to search from here (207.103.108.99)? Davetnova |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Problems with Mudcat? From: GUEST,MMario Date: 12 Jan 05 - 09:59 AM I'm testing this link right now...Supersearch which gives you the main search page -= and the answer appears to be no - at least not currently. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Problems with Mudcat? From: GUEST,JennyO Date: 12 Jan 05 - 10:04 AM Hmm. That's exactly where I got to as well, MMario, but everything seems to lead back to www.mudcat.org |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Problems with Mudcat? From: GUEST,JennyO Date: 12 Jan 05 - 10:16 AM However, the DT is working :-) |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Problems with Mudcat? From: GUEST,Bruce Murdoch Date: 12 Jan 05 - 10:36 AM |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Problems with Mudcat? From: GUEST,Bassic Date: 12 Jan 05 - 11:00 AM Erudite as ever Brucie ;-) |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Problems with Mudcat? From: GUEST Date: 12 Jan 05 - 11:09 AM ;-) |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Problems with Mudcat? From: GUEST,Rapaire Date: 12 Jan 05 - 11:20 AM Them Albertans are folks of a few words. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Problems with Mudcat? From: Stilly River Sage Date: 12 Jan 05 - 12:00 PM Back and logged on through the old link. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Problems with Mudcat? From: Paco Rabanne Date: 12 Jan 05 - 12:20 PM Hiya Bassic, how's life in Hessle. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Problems with Mudcat? From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 13 Jan 05 - 02:23 AM |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Problems with Mudcat? From: Liz the Squeak Date: 13 Jan 05 - 03:19 AM So apart from quittin' bitchin', is there anything we can do to help? LTS |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Problems with Mudcat? From: GUEST, Allan C. Date: 13 Jan 05 - 08:49 AM Liz, I asked Max the same question. He explained that the main problem is that he is still trying to learn all of the functions of some of the new software. However, (he said, almost parenthetically,)"My dream is to have redundancy." In other words, if the Mudcat had a full fledged backup server, there wouldn't be any down time. As it is, anytime there is a problem, the Mudcat has to be disabled in order to work on it. My underststanding is that the "redundancy" could be a reality if the Mudcat were more solvent. Max is still working to get the tax thing worked out so that those on this side of the pond can deduct our contributions. This process, itself, is not without expense; i.e. consulting with accountant and a lawyer. Meanwhile, Max's dream is far from becoming a reality. The current income is barely sufficient to sustain the status quo. The acquisition of the server that replaced the ailing "Shorty" was completely funded by a single donation. (It is difficult to imagine what sort of tin cans and strings Max might be working with now, had this not happened.) There are some few people who actually make use of the Amazon link for their purchases as well as using some of the other links through which the Mudcat receives a small percentage. Sadly, not many of us take advantage of this means of funding the Mudcat. Most of the funding for the Mudcat comes directly through the generous giving of a dismally small number of members. Now, I will have to say that (to my knowledge) Max, himself, has rarely, if ever, asked for funds. In fact, it is rather difficult to get him to admit that he needs any more than he has. (Most of the years of the Mudcat's existence have seen shortfalls that I suspect were alleviated by money out of Max's own pocket.) It is not hard to imagine that there is always a necessity for some small or even large bits of hardware or else some sort of software to make the Mudcat to run more smoothly. Funding is always an issue. I know that folkies, almost by definition, generally aren't well-to-do and therefore, aren't usually in the position of being greatly philanthropic. However, even small sums donated from time to time would be a boon to the overall financial picture. In fact, I strongly urge those who will be receiving a tax refund again this year, to consider sending a wee bit of it to the Mudcat. I know I have rambled a little here; but I hope I have said what needs to be said. Please help to fund the Mudcat. I'll step down from the soapbox now. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Problems with Mudcat? From: GUEST,sandra in sydney Date: 14 Jan 05 - 07:06 AM money can be sent via Dick Greenhaus which I'll do on Monday & I've just sent an email to my work address to remind me sandra (getting older & more forgetful) |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Problems with Mudcat? From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 15 Jan 05 - 12:02 AM There is SELDOM a problem....you are probably attempting to access through the wrong server....may I suggest you change ISP's?
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Subject: RE: Tech: Problems with Mudcat? From: GUEST,Bewitched bothered, and bewildered. Date: 15 Jan 05 - 04:41 AM Gee thanks Garg; that's like reeeeally helpfull man! |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Problems with Mudcat? From: GUEST,MCP Date: 15 Jan 05 - 07:01 AM For the last week or so www.mudcat.org becomes unavailable at about 08:30 UK time, but access is available via IP address ...99. I suspect that something is timed to run at around 03:30 mudcat time that makes the www.mudcat.org address unavailable. It becomes available again in the afternoon UK (maybe 14:30 UK or after). Mick |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Problems with Mudcat? From: GUEST,foolestroupe Date: 15 Jan 05 - 08:26 AM My test probes currently show all known permutations of the Mudcat addresses as 'unavailable' - even the one I am getting in thru now - but I can get in thru the 'magic numbers' - as this post proves.... bloody weird... Viz - all entries the same as this line [http://207.103.108.99/ HTTP Error: Operation cancelled (12017)] except [http://www.mudcat.org/threads.cfm Error: Request timed out (35761)] Robin |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Problems with Mudcat? From: GUEST,JennyO Date: 15 Jan 05 - 08:56 AM When I try Ping, http://www.mudcat.org/threads.cfm answers normally, as if it was up. Weird! With Buddy, it says "Ping returned an error" And of course, with these numbers, Ping answers normally too. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Problems with Mudcat? From: GUEST Date: 15 Jan 05 - 09:23 AM While I appreciate your version of the funding story being relevant tot he tech problems Allan, it isn't the One True Right Truth of the matter. Max doesn't ask for money because he doesn't want to be held accountable for it. It's that simple. The funding issue with Mudcat could easily have been solved years ago, people have volunteered to do the work it would take to set up a proper funding channel and keep track of the accounts, that sort of thing. But Max has stubbornly refused to do it. Like I said, this is a guy who doesn't want to be held accountable. People who love this place and are lead to believe that sending Max money to "fix" the problems deserve to know that, IMO. If they send money they will never know what does or doesn't get done with it, it may or may not fix the current spate of technical problems (which Max is apparently saying now is a software learning curve issue, which isn't something that can be fixed by sending him donations, he just has to take the time to figure out the problem), you won't be able to deduct your donations from taxes (which most people here don't seem to care about anyway, they just want their internet chat fix), and you likely won't ever hear a "thank you" from anyone. Some of us, Allan, have been down this well worn road before. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Problems with Mudcat? From: GUEST,MBSLynne Date: 15 Jan 05 - 11:05 AM Well it's still not back up at 4.05...... |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Problems with Mudcat? From: Scooby Doo Date: 15 Jan 05 - 11:33 AM Its back now Lynne |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Problems with Mudcat? From: GUEST,JennyO Date: 15 Jan 05 - 11:37 AM Hello Lynne - why not come over to Backdoor Tavern 99? Drinks are on the house, and some loony is handing out free CD's... |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Problems with Mudcat? From: GUEST Date: 15 Jan 05 - 11:48 AM Mudcat may be up, but my ISP now seems to be having problems. Can't win. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Problems with Mudcat? From: MBSLynne Date: 15 Jan 05 - 12:05 PM Great idea Jenny! I'll see you there!! Love Lynne |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Problems with Mudcat? From: Max Date: 15 Jan 05 - 12:07 PM ALERT: The recent mudcat problems are due to Search Engine Robots and Adware/Spyware installed on mudcat members' computers. Specifically something called FunWebProducts. There is an article about it here: http://www.nwfusion.com/newsletters/web/2003/1208web2.html. Apparently its driving Web Masters crazy all over the world. I have gotten the Robots under control, now please do your part. I encourage everyone to download and run spybot to rid your computer of this, and probable hundreds more adware and spyware software. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Problems with Mudcat? From: JennyO Date: 15 Jan 05 - 12:13 PM See you in a few hours Lynne. Gotta go to bed now - it's way past my bedtime. Jenny |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Problems with Mudcat? From: Amos Date: 15 Jan 05 - 12:28 PM Here is a table of different cures for spyware. If you are running OSX, you're not at all likely to be part of this problem. Spyware Tool Comparisons. Regards, A |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Problems with Mudcat? From: GUEST Date: 15 Jan 05 - 12:29 PM I use both Spybot and Ad Aware for the malware. Also, people should be using a good anti-virus software too. I use this freebie download on all my computer lab computers at school. It isn't that tough to update them regularly and run these programs daily. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Problems with Mudcat? From: Sorcha Date: 15 Jan 05 - 12:33 PM Thanks for the note, Max. Not at home right now, but will check when I get there. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Problems with Mudcat? From: John MacKenzie Date: 15 Jan 05 - 12:59 PM Thanks Max, I knew there had to be a good reason, can you set your server up to detect and reject any Catter who has this on their 'Pooter'? Or am I being late again and you've already done it? Giok |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Problems with Mudcat? From: MBSLynne Date: 15 Jan 05 - 01:05 PM Spybot means not having to say you're sorry! Phew..I've got it so I don't have to feel guilty!! Love Lynne |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Problems with Mudcat? From: Steve in Sidmouth Date: 15 Jan 05 - 01:08 PM As someone relatively new to computers I can enjoy taking them to pieces but all this software inadequacy is making me p***ed off. I am glad to know that access problems with mudcat are not at my end. Maybe everyone should run Linux and Firefox or some such Gates-free combination until he can produce programs that are not full of holes. Seen the latest exploit under XP? It gets around SP2 apparently. I found this recently - it may be 'old hat' to all you tech people but I had a troubled night thinking about all the updates I should load but am damned if I am going to risk a computer that works for an updated one that doesn't. These problems of spyware etc etc should be sorted out in robust products - not left to millions of users to deal with. I have just spent half a day trying to get W98(2) to accept a modem at some place else than COM1. It offers me COM5 - which doesn't even exist in the Registry. I am afraid a lot of people will be staying with out of date software (even more full of holes than XP) until they have confidence that their next expensive purchase will actually WORK. Happy reading http://www.mdgx.com/web.htm Steve in Sidmouth http://www.seered.co.uk |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Problems with Mudcat? From: MBSLynne Date: 15 Jan 05 - 01:13 PM Spybot means not having to say you're sorry! Phew! I've got it so I don't have to feel guilty! Love Lynne |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Problems with Mudcat? From: Steve in Sidmouth Date: 15 Jan 05 - 01:15 PM Forgot to say - I am enjoying (??) a free month trial with AOL. Almost unworkable within ebay sometimes - page cannot be found etc etc. Other times it is fine. They have an inbuilt spy/adware detection programme that checked 25,000 files (+) on my main internet machine and found nothing. It's the first time I have checked in over two years so infection must be pretty rare except on broadband connections??? Or maybe it depends which naughty websites you visit??? |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Problems with Mudcat? From: wysiwyg Date: 15 Jan 05 - 02:20 PM I don't understand why I would have different speed/URL access at different times, regardless of having run or not run any anti-spy or anti-bot or anti-ware scans. ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Problems with Mudcat? From: JohnInKansas Date: 15 Jan 05 - 02:31 PM For those who have had Spybot for a while, a reminder that just like your AV it does need regular updates. I thought I was fairly current, but a fresh update added a few signatures. When you first open Spybot, with default installation, the UPDATES button is grayed out, but it should appear after you run a scan and fix what's found. Click for updates, select all of what's available, and they should download and install, and Spybot will open for a new scan. A current scan should show about 21,000 threats in the progress bar when your run a scan. If yours shows fewer, you should get updated. John |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Problems with Mudcat? From: Alba Date: 15 Jan 05 - 02:47 PM I'm covered thank goodness and updated automatically. It doesn't solve the problem but thanks for letting us know what is causing it Max. Blessings Jude |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Problems with Mudcat? From: Scooby Doo Date: 15 Jan 05 - 03:32 PM Thanks Max for your advice. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Problems with Mudcat? From: GUEST,Alba Date: 15 Jan 05 - 03:48 PM I spoke the words and Murphy's Law happens.... what the heck is happening when I went away and checked my systems and came back to Mudcat via my Fav button I got this! :Access by FunWebProducts adware denied: aghhhhhhhh what does that mean. I have scanned all my Files and Hard drive and have found nothing with this funwebblahblah in there. Helllllp Jude |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Problems with Mudcat? From: EagleWing Date: 15 Jan 05 - 04:29 PM Steve from Sidmouth says "Maybe everyone should run Linux and Firefox or some such Gates-free combination until he can produce programs that are not full of holes. Seen the latest exploit under XP? It gets around SP2 apparently." Linux and firefox etc are probably just as full as holes - it's just that the people who make the nasties go for GatesWare because that way they hit the greatest number of people. If everyone changed over to firefox we'd very soon discover that it's just as vulnerable. Frank L. |
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